Hawaii actually does have a small but existent movement to restore Hawaiian sovereignty, mostly among native Hawaiians.

@bigploppa154

2 жыл бұрын

tell them to secede ive been waiting on another civil war

@archstanton6102

2 жыл бұрын

They can come back to the UK and replace Scotland.

@cjclark1208

2 жыл бұрын

It’ll never happen, they are being priced out of their own homeland and the place is important to the U.S military so they’ll likely never give in.

@JonBoullion1020

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but if the treatment of Native Americans were any indication of the US Governments stance on Native Rights, the movement is but a dream or wishful thinkings on “what could have been” and this is from a 40% Native Hawaiian, me, lol. Can’t deny that our developmental success was due to the US annexing and incorporating us into its Federal Economy, but eh, I’ve got a hefty reparations inheritance to look forward to lol.

@archstanton6102

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonBoullion1020 I am curious as to how you are 40% native islander? Genuinely curious.

There was also The Republic of the Rio Grande. It’s capitol was in Laredo, TX and it consisted of portions of South Texas and Northern Mexico. There is a museum dedicated to it in Laredo and Zapata, TX is named in honor of its founder.

@goatskip

Жыл бұрын

"Capital." The word is "capital." And NO, there was no such republic. Just because a bunch of nuts decided to call themselves a republic doesn't make it so.

@alexanderfretheim5720

Жыл бұрын

Yes and it's because the Republic of the Rio Grande that Texas includes the regions of Texas south of the Nueces River, which means that Texas and Hawaii are the only annexed former countries that can say they expanded their territory during their history.

@XelitexX360

9 ай бұрын

Very true but in its core it was more a country that would exist inside Mexico rather than the US (It's plan was to include the whole Mexican states of Nuevo Leon, Coahuila and Tamaulipas, also including some few cities/regions of texas as it was still contested at the time this Republic started its movement). Therefore I guess that's why it was left out, as this new Republic was more Mexican and wouldn't exactly fit the title of countries that existed inside the US. Cheers!

@petros8478

6 ай бұрын

If your a christian// you need to repent of your sins PLZ

I live within the Iroquois Oneida Nation.That flag is still proudly flown today. Especially on nation lands. Great people and interesting history ✌️

@SeverancePay500

Жыл бұрын

Where?

@sonnyboy4755

Жыл бұрын

The Iroquois nation is alive and well. I would know I'm part of the Confederacy. So what this fool is saying is total bullshit. People who spread lies.

@Banana_master420

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was called Haudenosaunee and Iroquois was there named by the French and French was there enemy at the time

@dianecolozzi2060

Жыл бұрын

I also live in this area, in the original Onondaga Territory. These people still have some of their own land and are sovereign nations.

@Gign--a

11 ай бұрын

@@Banana_master420 it’s easier to write Iroquois

The original 13 colonies were also countries. The Declaration of Independence was not 13 colonies declaring themselves a single independent nation. They were 13 British colonial provinces making a joint and unified statement that they were independent states on equal footing with the state of Great Britain. The text of the Declaration of Independence addresses the states in plural, to include mention of them being independent states. The United States, as a single country, did not come into existence until the US Constitution was ratified. *Edit (February 22, 2023):* Before responding, please read all the responses to this post in addition to this original post. This thread has gone to the point where each new response repeats one or a combination of things mentioned by previous posters. If I previously rebutted something that you want to say, there is an excellent chance that I will do the same with your response.

@selfdo

Жыл бұрын

The issue of the sovereignty of the states and secession was not a new one in 1861. Not only South Carolina and the "Nullification Crisis" of 1832, but also look up the Hartford Convention of 1814. The New England states were not happy with the conduct of the War of 1812 and considered breaking off from the USA at the time. "Dishonest Abe" settled that issue by use of the Army of the United States (along with the US Navy blockading Confederate ports) INVADING the Confederacy, to bring them back by force of arms, which ultimately succeeded, most notably with the surrender of Lee's Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Court House in 1865. Since then, effectively, the several states have been CONQUERED by the Federal Government, which has been NATIONAL in its character, rather than a voluntary federation of the states, as the Founders had intended.

@jonathanwebster7091

Жыл бұрын

*Crown Colonies, not Provinces, there is a (somewhat small, but not completely inconsequential) difference: being a "Crown Colony', despite the name, meant it was de jure British territory, as opposed to being a protected state (a largely independent country that had its own assemblies or parliament, or even monarch, and controlled its own affairs with Britain being responsible solely for defence and foreign affairs), a protectorate (the same more or less as a protected state), a Dominion (an autonomous country within the British Empire that was basically independent save for it kept the British monarch as a figurehead head of state), or a Province (basically the same as a Dominion, but before that name was coined, a term only really used for Canada before 1867). In this respect, the original 13 colonies were similar in that status to places like Hong Kong, Singapore, Aden, or the Cape Colony.

@thebesig

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanwebster7091 *jonathan webster:* Crown Colonies, not Provinces, there is a (somewhat small, but not completely inconsequential) difference: First, I called them "British colonial provinces" based on both my decades long enjoyment of reading history related topics, as well on my family tree research, which showed my direct ancestors listed as being in "The province of [name of province]". Second, the difference between the term that you used, and the one that I used, is irrelevant to this argument. The purpose of the above video, and my response to it, had nothing to do with the technical name of the colonies. *The above video discussed countries that used to exist in the area now known in the United States. My response addressed the fact that the original colonies (British colonial provinces) each declared themselves independent in a joint statement (Declaration of Independence).* *jonathan webster:* being a "Crown Colony', despite the name, meant it was de jure British territory, as opposed to being a protected state (a largely independent country that had its own assemblies or parliament, or even monarch, and controlled its own affairs with Britain being responsible solely for defence and foreign affairs), a protectorate (the same more or less as a protected state), a Dominion (an autonomous country within the British Empire that was basically independent save for it kept the British monarch as a figurehead head of state), or a Province (basically the same as a Dominion, but before that name was coined, a term only really used for Canada before 1867). In this respect, the original 13 colonies were similar in that status to places like Hong Kong, Singapore, Aden, or the Cape Colony. [STRAWMAN] First, the British revised the political status of the colonies, changing them from chartered colonial ventures and then establishing them as provinces. Each was later identified as "The Province of" prior to the name that they took as colonies, e.g., the Province of Massachusetts (what I saw on the information for one of my ancestors). I saw this play out with my other ancestors, even though they came over when these provinces were relatively new colonial ventures. These provinces had a militia called the "Provincial Regulars". Second, neither the above video, nor the post that you're responding to, addresses the difference between a "crown colony" and "protectorate". This is about the existence of countries, no longer existing, that existed in what is now the United States. My response addressed the fact that the original colonies each became a country vice becoming a single country as many people assume. Third, the original colonies, later reestablished as provinces, managed their affairs, including defense. The colonial provinces turned towards Great Britain when the French proved too much for them. They were given a lot of autonomy. It was when Great Britain attempted to exert more control into colonial affairs, passing laws and carrying out initiatives in the provincial/colonial frontiers, that the colonials felt infringed on their sovereign rights, that led towards the American Revolution. The fight from April 1775 until the Declaration of Independence was not a fight for independence, but a fight for their rights as Englishmen to include their rights to run affairs on this side of the Atlantic. Fourth, your response, in its entirety, is irrelevant to the topic started by the OP, and in my response. Whether I used my term, or your term, the reader would understand what is being argued.

@ForageGardener

Жыл бұрын

They still are technically, the United States is a foreign corporation with respect to each state. Thats why they are called states and not provinces

@thebesig

Жыл бұрын

@@ForageGardener They're called states, as back in the late 18th Century, what we would call a nation today they called a "State". The Declaration of Independence spells this out in the part where they declare themselves on equal footing with Great Britain, also identified as a state. "State" is still used today as one of the terms to identify a nation.

The Vermont National Guard are still called the “Green Mountain Boys” and have carried the Vermont Republic flag with them through the Revolution, The War of 1812, The Civil War, War, Spanish American, Both World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq and Afghanistan Pretty cool history

@arkle519

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean War, Second World

@cadenibz

Жыл бұрын

@@arkle519 bro what

@petros8478

6 ай бұрын

if your a christian you need to repent of your sins PLZ

A big one missing was the Confederate States of America, of course. Some states, like Louisiana, succeeded from the United States and were briefly independent (and even had their own flags) before joining the Confederate States of America. There was also a "neutral ground" in present-day western Louisiana between Spanish Texas and the Louisiana Purchase sometimes referred to as the Sabine Free State but I don't think it really had any organization, flag, or any other trappings of a country.

@billwilson3609

Жыл бұрын

The Sabine Free State had no formal government so became a haven for outlaws, fugitives from the law and adventurers. They did have their own currency which were counterfeit Spanish coins made by a shady merchant in New Orleans. Legal tender was hard to find and keep so the residents just used the phony money for everyday transactions.

@JJ-ot9xm

Жыл бұрын

Actually the Confederate states was never reconizeb by the USA

@shadibeidas1

Жыл бұрын

The CSA didn't succeed with anything, existed on the premise of owning people as property, and their flag was the white flag of surrender. They don't deserve recognition apart from the fact that Reconstruction didn't happen for long enough.

@billwilson3609

Жыл бұрын

@@shadibeidas1 It wasn't over owning people. Most Northerners could care less if the Southerners owned slaves and were happy to turn in runaway slaves to earn the large rewards. It was over state's rights. The Southern states were outnumbered in Congress which had been passing hefty export tariffs on cotton and other southern agricultural products to keep their prices lower for the Northern industrialists and general population since the European countries were willing to buy as much as the Southern states could produce. The Southern states' governments were controlled by the wealthy planters so they agreed to break away from the USA to form their own country.

@nonsuchned94

Жыл бұрын

Yes, obvious why it's not included, but it should mentioned straight up. Like "Countries That Used To Exist Inside The United States (other than the CSA)" it doesn't matter that "The USA didn't recognize them"- that's true of most of these, it's just a standard disclaimer that should be made. It was a declared independent nation, as were those that sprouted up around it.

Hold up, the "Cherokee nation(s)" still exist. Such as the eastern band of Cherokee, they are federally recognized sovereign nations and comprise 3 distinct tribes, 2 of which agree on many terms, while the eastern band are the "odd ones out" being the few descendants of those Cherokee who managed to escape the trail of tears.

@rj42074

Жыл бұрын

So does the Seneca Nation

@saustin2287

Жыл бұрын

The whole reason I even clicked on this video was to see just how badly they screwed up on this. I live very close to the Arkansas-Oklahoma boarder and even people here are so ignorant. Also I'm sorry to all those nations right now in light of the SCOTUS ruling and how little to no light is being shined on the topic.

@MyFiddlePlayer

Жыл бұрын

When I clicked on this video, somehow I was expecting to hear about the Kingdom of Hawaii, Iroquois Confederation, Navajo, Oneida, Mississippi Mound Builders, Aztecs etc. Funny how some people act like the history of what is now the US started when Europeans arrived.

@Henrik46

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty clear that the US never intended - and still doesn't intend - to view Indian reservations as Nations in the UN sense of the word. Because of ambiguity in the treaties, they are allowed to have gambling and their own local governments. I think it's prudent to think of them like the Crown dependencies of the UK, which provide military and foreign policy.

@shaerin5327

Жыл бұрын

@@Henrik46 I agree, however in reference to the eastern band of cherokee. It's never been referred to as a reservation, and it is their historical land, as in the land of their ancestors, also in regard to their laws, for example all forms ofAmerican law enforcement lack jurisdiction their. Including game wardens and federal agencies, which is as close to one can get to them being fully independent. Their required id's for example aren't recognized by the US, same with their drivers licenses. Also I could be mistaken but I believe that children born on their land aren't even considered American citizens.

Funny story, my parents were married in Rough and Ready church. I love finding little historical things about the area I grew up. History should be preserved, atrocities and all. We learn from the past and erasing anything is setting up for repeating mistakes

@markwomack1561

9 ай бұрын

Me too. I grew up in Nevada City. Drive through Rough and Ready to get to Marysville, before Penn Valley freeway. 😂

The Haudenosaunee still exists. Smaller but still exists. Im am a member. Recognized by the federal government. State of NY too. I have a membership card. 6 nation Iroquois. I grew up in Onondaga. Its also a part of Canada. Akwesasne Mohawks. We are not EXSTICT!!

@mrmoose6619

2 жыл бұрын

Yes... the Haudenosaunee have a top ranked lacrosse team (3rd in the world if I am not mistaking) and issue separate passports.

@TheMasonK

2 жыл бұрын

I know that much of the current day Oneida tribe are now in the area of Northeast Wisconsin. Really sad situation with them being forced out even after helping the United States.

@rodrigoe.gordillo2617

2 жыл бұрын

Most of you don't even look native so...

@MrChristianDT

2 жыл бұрын

The Oneida are in the same part of the continent as all the rest of the Iroquois, sans some of the Seneca. I think your thinking of the Oneonta Culture, who are the ancestors to the Ho-Chunk people. Either that, or the Mohicans, who were also from New York & relocated to Wisconsin.

@jakewaw101

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a shitload of Indigenous peoples and nations still here. I very much dislike this video and his “history” of Indigenous cultures and nations. Enrolled Anishinaabe (Lake Superior Chippewa) here.

Sitting back home in Scotland and having lived in Brattleboro VT for a few years, I have a VT license plate but I’d love to get my hands on the Vermont Republic flag ! Never knew it existed !

@Shield.148

Жыл бұрын

Have a replica made.

@cowboykermit

Жыл бұрын

The flag is still in use by the Vermont National Guard

I feel like you could count a lot more native American ones. I'm sure it depends on what you count as a "country" though. For example, some groups, like the Wabanak Confederacy were essentially anarchist, or based on "consensus government", which basically means that leaders lead by convincing other people to do things, not by forcing them to. There were also probabably a lot of small groups. For example, was the Natchez chiefdom ever a country? I would think so. (I at least think they were probably more like an independent sovereign nation than "The Great Republic of the Rough and Ready" was.) There's also the question of ancient history we can't really know about, like, what exactly was the political organization of the Anasazi?

@xibalbalon8668

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of native countries that were self governed and recognized by the US through treaties, but those treaties were ignored by the US

@joshuadurham1257

Жыл бұрын

My ancestors are native American cuz my great grandmother was light and brown. Me and my brother was brown. But light inside. But technically my family was here.

@milkshakesnail8008

Жыл бұрын

Interesting to think if the Pueblos around the southwest are/were “countries”. They were definitely self sufficient and had their own culture, language, and customs. I see no reason not to call them nation states but I doubt they viewed themselves as such.

@Mr.Nichan

Жыл бұрын

@@milkshakesnail8008 What do you think it means for people to view themselves as a "nation state"? Many people (who I think view the past world as basically Europe) say the concept of a "nation state" basically didn't exist until "nationalism" supposedly appeared in the 19th century and that before then there were only "states" that weren't "nations". "Nation state" seems like a very narrow concept, if so, though I actually totally doubt the premise. In any case, the concept of a "tribe" as a large ethno-geo-graphic entity is basically the same as a "nation", which is why they even call them "first nations" in Canada, and the concept of a "state" basically means any political unit with unified leadership that has significant actual power over the land and people it governs. I suspect many or most, though certainly not all, states north of Mexico were usually smaller than anything good to call a nation in post-contact times, but that's potentially just like city states in Greece or Germany, and there were plenty of nations that were small and even states that could at least arguably be called multi-national. That being said, some things that might look like states might not be because of the nature of the political organization, such as the Wabanak confederacy (around Maine and New Brunswick) which was one of I think at least several examples of what could be called Native American anarchism.

@TankDavisConquers

Жыл бұрын

No one is native to America

There is one very notable country that you left out. A group of southern, slave owing states declared themselves to be an independent confederation in the 1860s. This country went to war with the U.S. and it was a bit of a big deal.

@ianrogerburton1670

Жыл бұрын

BRILLIANT ANSWER !!!!!

@ruffkuntry2574

Жыл бұрын

A group of southern DEMOCRAT slave owning states

@cheapbastard990

Жыл бұрын

They only went to war because they were invaded.

@ruffkuntry2574

Жыл бұрын

@@cheapbastard990 Ummm pretty sure the DEMOCRAT confederates attacked first at Fort Sumter giving Lincoln every right to “invade” F You DEMOCRATS!

@juliangaming9713

Жыл бұрын

They weren’t a real country, just a bunch of traitors

In Brazil, we have similar entities on our history. The Rio-Grandense, Piratini and Acre Republic are some examples.

@adrumasahead2815

2 жыл бұрын

Im quite interested in the Acre republic, as a Brazilian what do you think if it comes back?

@williammedeiros645

Жыл бұрын

@@adrumasahead2815 The Republic of Acre was an initiative of the locals to later be annexed to Brazil, as happened with Texas in the United States. I am very surprised that we do not know statistics on the use of the Spanish language in the State, since it previously belonged to Bolivia.

@ramirofrausto1179

Жыл бұрын

Let’s hope they make a video. I love learning about countries.

The Iroquois Confederacy flag still flies in the Mohawk reserve/town of Kahnawake (Kahnawá:ke) in Quebec, and probably elsewhere, and it’s also called the Six Nations flag

@ralphbalfoort2909

2 жыл бұрын

Iroquois is a derogatory term applied to the people of the confederacy by the Algonquians of what is now Quebec. The proper term is Haudenosaunee, The People Who Build Longhouses.

@GenericYoutubeGuy

Жыл бұрын

Lol they think the Canadian flag is so ugly they hafta fly their own flag. If they’d just move to the us they wouldn’t have to look at the Canadian flag anymore.

There was an attempt to succeed from the US in the late 60’s, called forgottonia. It included 16 counties in central west Illinois, because that area was being overlooked by major infrastructure projects like the interstate

The Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) do still exist today. In fact, their national team is competing in the 2022 World Lacrosse Games next month and they have their own passports. But this is really the issue of Indigenous sovereignty: to what extent do current Native people rule themselves today? Great video either way.

@petros8478

6 ай бұрын

If your a christian// you need to repent of your sins PLZ

@dcrggreensheep

4 ай бұрын

​@@petros8478 as a Christian stop forcing them

Cant wait for your breakdown of principalities and city states under the Holy Roman Empire. The video will be a day long haha

@shonenjumpmagneto

2 жыл бұрын

Does HRE have the most subdivsions for any country in history?

@shonenjumpmagneto

2 жыл бұрын

@LyNx 17 up there for sure

@cameronsweirdnaturechannel

2 жыл бұрын

@LyNx 17 u are

@cameronsweirdnaturechannel

2 жыл бұрын

@LyNx 17 you r

@goofydogdogwaters3885

2 жыл бұрын

I like how he can draw the whole map in a second

You should look into the Seminole people. They’re a tribe that emerged as a result members of the Creek tribe being moved after the American Revolution. Their alliance was so strong, they never fully surrendered to the US, and as a result there is a Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma, and two Seminole Tribes in Florida that still to this very day occupies land THEY annexed in the Florida Everglades.

@scotishjohn

2 жыл бұрын

Met big cheif Billy seminals no surrender

@mindmedic9435

2 жыл бұрын

Never lost a battle or skirmish against the US forces either.

@chinesevirus-ix3yr

Жыл бұрын

​@@mindmedic9435 they did lose battles to American forces. It was the war they didn't lose. Stolen land colonizers- seminoles

@heliosgnosis2744

10 ай бұрын

Yet Florida has a hard time paying them tax dues twice or was it 3 times so far 1 default results in Florida loses all tax revenue from all casinos and no I am not joking and yes Florida is the guilty party , yet the Seminole nation never once has defaulted but has allowed Florida to default and not void the treaty/contract, this many do not know, the next time when in Florida and in a casino of theirs remember these words of truth.

@Pub2k4

10 ай бұрын

@@heliosgnosis2744 The Seminole tribe of Florida is a sovereign nation. They have their own government, and they do not pay taxes of any kind to the state or federal government. The Seminoles and the State of Florida have a “revenue share agreement.” This agreement has the seminoles paying 12%-15% to be the only casino operators in the state, and offer slots, poker, and banked card games (like blackjack). The Seminoles have stopped paying their portion of the revenue share agreement twice as a result of the state allowing non-Seminole casinos to operate, thereby violating the Seminoles’ exclusivity deal that was part of the revenue share agreement.

Texas will always remember the decade we were a country. We didn't try breaking away from the US but from Mexico. We joined the US as a state while every other state started as a territory Feel free to come down to San Antonio, you can visit the 5 missions from when Spain claimed Texas, the missions and San Antonio celebrated their 300th anniversary back in 2018, when 2036 rolls around there will be the 200th anniversary of a Texas winning independence from Mexico.

Super cool video, I’ve always wanted to know about these! If you do a part two, include Absaroka

The State of Franklin was a brief attempt at forming a republic into a separate state along the North Carolina-Tennessee border after the Revolutionary War. Then there was the big nation that appeared between 1861 and 1865....

@ChurchOfTheHolyMho

2 жыл бұрын

State of Franklin - what an interesting place...! In 1784, sought independence / secession. In 1861, sought to remain in the union. ...and was the homestead of the post civil war President of the United States, Andrew Johnson. Can you imagine? 5 days after the surrender of General Lee, the US was led by a man proudly from a Confederate State... about a year before Tennessee was re-admitted into the Union. Definitely a place and people that hold true to their values.

@gregcampwriter

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChurchOfTheHolyMho Well, east Tennessee was against slavery and wanted to remain in the Union.

@joeyoung7732

2 жыл бұрын

I'm close to Franklin, just up the ridge.....

@joeyoung7732

2 жыл бұрын

Last battle of the war of aggression was in Waynesville North Carolina victory the union surrendered to Thomas's legion of cherokee and highlanders.....

@warrenpuckett4203

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregcampwriter My grandfather was from Scott County, TN/Whitley County, KY. His thing " The only thing worse than a slave is the man who own one." He also said the Northerners did not need slaves. They had the Irish. One of the other stories from him Many of those from that Cumberland Gap area are descendants of those running from the King's taxes. Daniel Boone was not the 1st one to go there. He was the one that was famous for it.

The Articles of Confederation which governed the US until the Constitution replaced it was based on the legal framework of the Iroquois Confederacy. The Six Nations Confederacy (and the 5 beforehand) had a system based around consensus. Each of the six had a lead council with ministers under them responsible for the usual porfolios, trade, defense etc. and there would annual meetings where all would gather. The ministerial staff would bring issues to the attention of the leaders who would hash it out with their counterparts in the other 4 / 5 nations with round the clock negotiations until a consensus was reached. This system was refined from 14th until the 18th cent.

@gaiustacitus4242

Жыл бұрын

The Articles of Confederation were not based on any indigenous Indian groups. The compact was one among sovereign nations, and the Congress was based on England's parliamentary system.

Very informative. Great content. It might help if you reduced the plosives on your mic with a pop filter or running a low cut/high-pass filter. The low end plosives are tough to deal with when using headphones/earbuds. Anyway, keep it coming!

Very interesting. Australia was also made up of separate colonies which federated in 1901. Western Australia was originally called the 'Swan River colony', Victoria was originally 'Australia Felix', and Tasmania was 'van Dieman's Land'. This situation might also make another interesting video?

As Shelby Foote said in Ken Burns' The Civil War, before the war people said, "The United States are..."; but after the war, they said, "The United States is...".

@gaiustacitus4242

Жыл бұрын

The change came as a result of a transformation from a constitutional republic into a tyrannical empire where the Constitution of the United Stats is largely ignored.

@ktrimbach5771

Жыл бұрын

It was after the Civil War that the federal government started seizing increasing control. Before that secession was always a danger.

Deseret has always fascinated me and not just because it looks like it could be the playable area of Fallout New Vegas.

@selfdo

Жыл бұрын

For quite some time, the rest of the country was perfectly content to leave the "desert" of Deseret to the Mormons, believing the land to be essentially worthless. Then silver, copper, nickel, and other metals, along later with coal, were discovered, and suddenly the "Gentiles" (and yes, in the now largely-discarded practice, a Jew could be a "Gentile" in Utah) got quite interested in the place. President Lincoln, who did not care much for the Mormons, allowed the miners that were working the Comstock Lode in Silver City to break away from Deseret as the Nevada territory, and, even though it had but 10K persons, instead of the some 60K that Congress usually required for a state to be viable, it was admitted about three months prior to the 1864 election...the State constitution being transmitted via telegraph at a cost of over $4,000! Nevada further cut into the Utah territory in 1866 over the protests of the Utahns, bringing in what are now the present cities of Elko, Wells, and Ely, though at the time, they were practically rail watering stops only. FWIW, it also got the part of the Arizona Territory west and north of the Colorado river to the Utah-Nevada line, which was essentially most of present-day Clark County. Just imagine...Las Vegas, AZ! The remainder of Deseret beyond Utah's present borders was likewise excised off to Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Idaho, and even parts of SE Oregon, but with the exception of present-day SE Idaho, save for the Native Americans already there, which were quite few, there was little interest in settling those areas on the part of the Mormons.

@i.YouTuber1

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking thr same thing. [Just played Fallout 4 before watching this]

@mattreedah

10 ай бұрын

In our lovely deseret, where the saints of god have met

@petros8478

6 ай бұрын

If your a christian// you need to repent of your sins PLZ

Breckenridge, Colorado, was supposedly not included in the Louisiana Purchase, the Mexican Cession, or any other land acquisition by the US. In recent years, some local residents continue to refer to the town as the "Kingdom of Breckenridge."

Not a country, but there was a state called Franklin that consisted of several counties in East Tennessee. It was never formally recognized as a state though. This was in the 1700s sometime. I learned about this in our last trip down south. Pretty fascinating stuff.

@gaiustacitus4242

Жыл бұрын

The Free Republic of Franklin, better known as the State of Franklin (or simply Franklin), was a sovereign nation. John Sevier sought recognition by Spain for the new republic. Spain did provide him and his family with Spanish passports and a small fortune in gold, but did not officially recognize this new State. Spain was already in negotiations with the then self-styled United States to wage war against England (for in this they found common cause) and recognizing Franklin could have caused diplomatic issues since North Carolina also claimed the region.

@deanfirnatine7814

Жыл бұрын

Some people in Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho wanted to create the State of Franklin, Northern Idaho was unhappy because they were isolated and ignored by Southern Idaho where Boise is and most of the population while Eastern Washington wanted secede because it at liberal Western Washington exist in different universes.

@tbjohnson2595

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm a descendant of John Sevier and his second wife, Bonny Kate.

@rascta

9 ай бұрын

@@deanfirnatine7814 That was the proposal for the state of Lincoln. But that never became an independent country or really went beyond proposal stage.

The legacy of the Republic of West Florida in Louisiana is memorialized with the Parishes of: East Baton Rouge, Livingston, East and West Feliciana, St. Helena, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, and Washington known as the "Florida Parishes", this area was once part of West Florida.

@ObjectorSnark

2 жыл бұрын

on i-12 from pearl river to baton rouge are signs for the 'west florida parkway' featuring the bonnie blue flag

@arcadiaberger9204

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and those two little "panhandles" which give Alabama and Mississippi a tiny little bit of seacoast.

@louisinese

Жыл бұрын

Would the Republic of Louisiana count as a brief country?

So I'm a Mvskoke (Muscogee Creek) man from Oklahoma and its pronounced Mus-co-gee like geese. Love your videos! You rocking General! Mvto and Hvtvm!

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

I told him to listen to some Merle Haggard. Okie from Muskogee is a classic.

@kenaikuskokwim9694

2 жыл бұрын

He needs to work on his Indian nations-- Muscogee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Iroquois, Oneida in particular. (And "sought", not " seeked".) Otherwise, a fine job. I know loads of this kind of history, and still learned things here.

@tsarsymbion

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck pronouncing the Miami tribe in northeast OK!

@rvnsprng

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsarsymbion oh yeah xD this ain't Florida folks

@MrChristianDT

2 жыл бұрын

What? Mee-yaw-mee?

I learn something new every day, thanks for this video!

There is some great info on the show I used to watch "how the states got their shapes" there were a couple others mentioned in that two season series.

It would be interesting to see one of these on Russia.

@General.Knowledge

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@diakritika

2 жыл бұрын

Someone made this already, mostly short-lived statelets during Soviet/Russian revolution... can't remember the name.

@youngreckless1608

Жыл бұрын

Also India 🇮🇳 Brazil 🇧🇷 Canada 🇨🇦 Indonesia 🇮🇩 Mexico🇲🇽 & USA 🇺🇸

@masonharvath-gerrans832

Жыл бұрын

Russia is still the Prison of Nations, so I would say a video on this sort of topic would be more than appropriate

@trokoro

Жыл бұрын

If America was like Russia, the Navajo nation, or the Cherokee nation would be states, same way as Tatarstan, Buryatia, Kalmykia, Ingushetia, Shaka...so different tribes in the U.S. would have different states. But the Navajo nation is divided among four states...

@General Knowledge It seemed like you told a more “lighter” “nicer” story of Oklahoma and the Indian Territory. The reason why the Cherokee Nation was dissolved was mainly because of the Trail of Tears

@jonjdoe

2 жыл бұрын

You mean gold and bigotry was the reason for dissolving it. The walk out was a result, not a cause.

@KaiTheElusive

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the Nation is back and stronger than before

@Sandlin22

Жыл бұрын

That's what happens when two factions war and one losses. Just ask the survivors of the tribes the Cherokee massacred over the years.

@deanfirnatine7814

Жыл бұрын

@@Sandlin22 They also fought a Civil War between opposing factions that was within the US Civil War

@wayneanderson8034

Жыл бұрын

The USA had zero interest in Cherokee land until gold was discovered in Dahlonega or near there. Then suddenly, the civilized Cherokee were no longer human, & the USA had a desperate need to annex their land. It's the part of Christianity where you destroy your neighbor to take his gold, found somewhere in Acts.

I lived in Vermont in the 80,s and I recall buying a special license plate that said “ The independent republic of Vermont “ . I wish I still had it . In 1991 the state after 200 years was supposed to vote on staying in the union or becoming independent again but I never heard them even considering leaving . I read somewhere that Vermont was considering joining Quebec , don’t know how serious they were .

@eastcoastoverlord

Жыл бұрын

Please do not encourage the Quebecois 😅

@joelee2371

10 ай бұрын

I would hope they would not join Quebec; Vermont is one of the freest states in the US, and would give that up.

That was fascinating and worth the watch.

You totally forgot the biggest nation that existed in what is now the United States - The Confederate States of America (CSA) 1861 -1865. Many of the states thereof had briefly been independent nations until the CSA was formed in Montgomery Alabama.

@anamariaguadayol2335

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the traitors!

@baddog9320

2 жыл бұрын

@@anamariaguadayol2335 you can say the same of the original US. Funny when a group of states suceed for the same reasons as the US. They are called traitors by some.

@baddog9320

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad we still have those same problems that the CSA had. And its why our country is doing so bad.

@anamariaguadayol2335

2 жыл бұрын

@@baddog9320 oh, I should have been more specific, the slave keepers?

@baddog9320

2 жыл бұрын

@@anamariaguadayol2335 again you are wrong. Lol. Please. Learn US history. Stop relying on half truths. My ancestors were still slaves until 1910. Oh but they were not black. So they don't count right? To add to this. Unless you wish to include the mountain region. ( which the liars never do) It was a Union state they were slaves in until 1910. ( California) But that was not the only union state that still had slave after the end of the Civil War. To include black slaves. Yeah, you didn't learn that. You assumed that only the CSA had slaves. And that all slaves were freed in the US during the Civil War. In truth, all formal CSA states gave up thier black slaves prior to the union states giving up thier black slaves. I say black slaves, because there are others not black. That were slaves and kept past 1910. I know, you think Lincoln's emancipation proclamation. Did this as many do. Nope. The union slave states didn't free black slaves until all the Confederacy did. The Civil War was no more over slavery then the Gulf War was over babies. Yeap there is a sliver of truth to both those. But its not the major reason for either.

Hey! Love your videos, keep them coming! :-) Have you ever look into the flag ratio? It’s quite niche, but as a designer I appreciate this kind of details. For example, the Canadian province of Quebec has a flag with a ratio of 2:3. But when it flies next to the Canadian flag, that has a 1:2 ratio, they use an alternative version of the flag with the same ratio. You talked about shapes, but I thing the subtlety of ratio is interesting. Thx

@jeankutzer1556

2 жыл бұрын

Look up the Dimmitt flag from 1835 Goliad, Texas. White background with a red severed arm dripping blood and holding a sword. It symbolizes, 'I'd cut off an arm rather than live under tyrann!'

From your list at beginning, it looks like you’ve omitted the State of Franklin (comprised of territory located within modern day Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina). It may be small, but a neat story nonetheless. Dig the work though! Great job!! 😁🤙

11K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍. Thanks for the fun, digital video recording! 🎬✌️🖐️🖖😎🤠🤓😁 Notes: You're welcome! It is a nice change of pace to see and hear one of these informational videos without it being part of someone else's reaction video! Until now, I've never heard the names, Muskogee, Iroquois, Chickasaw, King Kamehameha, pronounced like you did them!

A good thing to do this because many of the flags would not be seen except in this context. An exception would be the Iroquois flag which still flies in places in Canada. The Sea Shepard Society once registered a ship under the Iroquois flag to avoid having to fly a Canadian one.

@coreygriffin1739

Жыл бұрын

The Bonnie Blue can be seen in the "Florida" parishes of Louisiana. For instance there's a section of I-12 which is considered the Bonnie Blue highway and has a blue sign with a single large white star in the center.

it’s strange seeing so much talk about vermont in a youtube video, since i live there it’s just kinda exciting to get talked about like that since it’s so small

I've heard of two allegedly unrecognized micronations within the US called Molossia (1977) and Slowjamastan (2021), you can visit them both in Nevada and California respectively.

Awesome video dude👍

john brant moved the 6 nations to southern Ontario, and the six nations of the grand river is still under six nations control, although it has diminished in size, and Canada did not help at first and arguably at all.

So many people say that the USA has very little history. True, it doesn't go very far back in time, but a lot of stuff has taken place during its existence.

@jubmelahtes

2 жыл бұрын

Ian compared to countries that has existed for millennias it really doesn't, however the landmass that is the continent of the Americas does have a long rich history

@xviper2k

2 жыл бұрын

@@jubmelahtes But how many countries have existed for millennia? Egypt? Nope. 1922. Greece? Nope. 1822. China? Nope. 1949. For whatever reason, people make a distinction between the actual formation of the US and any history that happened in its territory prior to 1776, but they fail to make that same distinction for old world countries. Fact is, the US is officially an older country than many old world countries.

@Zombie-lp8bx

Жыл бұрын

@@jubmelahtes Laughs in Inca and Mayans.

I want to thank you for the amazing information you provide to your viewers. This is fascinating material. I appreciate all of your efforts. Many thanks!

Just dropped a follow loved the vid .. going to binge your channel 💯🍿

From all those Nations Vermont is the only one that had it's own currency? Awesome video by the way.

@Granwizerman

2 жыл бұрын

No texas had its own currency but it was short lived

@fuckeduphippie

2 жыл бұрын

Deseret also had its own currency for a short while, instituted by the Deseret Currency Association. It was backed up by livestock instead due to the low amounts of gold and silver.

@spencergouveia7449

2 жыл бұрын

Hawaii had its own currency too

@keithbessant

2 жыл бұрын

After seeing this video I looked for Vermont coppers on ebay. There seem to be more of them in better condition at the price than the Fugio cents of the US. They remind me of the halfpennies of George III, the seated figure on the back looks like Britannia, but with the words Independence and Liberty instead.

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

Only Texas had embassies and diplomatic relations with other nations

Besides Hawaii, Texas was the only real country on this list with embassies and diplomatic recognition with France, The UK and the United States.

@slycat2355

Жыл бұрын

Native Texan here. When I’m driving and people are going too slow or can’t drive and it’s not a Texas license plate, I immediately refer to them as foreigners! You know, those people from Oklahoma, California, Massachusetts, etc. 😂😂😂

@michaelgriffin7943

10 ай бұрын

What about the Fredonia Republic that was centered in Nacogdoches prior to Texas declaring its independence. There is a small black community outside of Kilgore, Tx that took its name from that country.

@texasforever7887

10 ай бұрын

@michaelgriffin7943 Yes, they declared independence but didn't function as a nation, nor were they recognized as one.

As a kid I read about the small country of Franklyn...late 1700's(?) When the US annexed it, they gave the people their own county, inside North Carolina. I always thought it was located near or on Franklyn, NC, but, Franklyn County is more in the middle of the state of NC, near Raleigh. I also thought it was located in the corners area of Georgia, Tennessee, and N. Carolina.

@thedreadtyger

Жыл бұрын

howdy, Sam. the State or Republic of Franklin/ Frankland was formed in what are now 7 counties in East Tennessee. our capital was Jonesboro. after a year as an independent republic, we were almost a state twice; once in the early 1790s, and the second time just before the secession of Tennessee during the Civil War.

@justmenotyou3151

Жыл бұрын

@the dread tyger if I recall Franklin was not part of the Confederacy. It stood as an independent state.

@thedreadtyger

Жыл бұрын

@@justmenotyou3151 the issue of Secession was largely opposed in most of what was once Franklin, as it was in many places in the South. several of my forebears fought for the Union.

@seanstewart302

10 ай бұрын

When Tennessee proceeded to leave the Union this entire end of the state tried to secede from Tennessee and remain with the union, except for one county. We were quickly invaded by the Confederacy. That didn't stop pro-union locals from sabotaging infrastructure, i.e. railroads. They were executed by the Confederacy. In Greene county there is a federal monument to the bridge burners.

You forgot to mention The Sabine Free State. It also was formally known as the Neutral Ground between the USA and the Spanish that had differing opinions over the SW border of the Louisiana Purchase. It was a large long stretch of land in Western Louisiana than ran from the Sabine River in the west to the Arroyo Hondo in the east. The two countries decided it wasn't worth fighting over using arms so agreed to keep their militaries out of it while working on a diplomatic solution. It already had Anglo Spanish, French and American settlers living there along with small communities of pirate families and various native tribes so they were allowed to govern themselves. It soon became a haven for fugitives from the law, criminals, adventurers and other riff-raff. The Neutral Ground became lawless with their criminal activity spilling over into East Texas. Gangs would monitor the wagon trains of settlers going to the Texas colonies then raid them to steal everything they had, kill the men and sell the women and children to the natives as slaves. The US and the Spain sent troops in 1810 and 1812 to clear out the gangs from that region. The Sabine Free State also had a de facto currency that consisted of counterfeit Spanish coins that were produced by an enterprising French resident of New Orleans. Since those weren't solid gold or silver and only plated, the residents of the neutral ground didn't have to worry about those being stolen for their precious metals so were accepted in payment for goods and services. The Neutral Ground became part of the USA after a treaty was signed in 1821 that set the border along the Sabine River. That region and much of East Texas remained lawless for the next 50 years. Texas also had several short-lived republics before the Texians declared independence from Mexico. One was the Republic of Fredonia in East Texas that was formed on December 21, 1826 and dissolved by the Mexican Army and Texian militias on January 31, 1827. It's leader was a Southern planter that was award a local land grant to colonize and realized he could grab more from the current landowners that owned land given to them by the Spanish but couldn't produce a deed to prove ownership. He raised a militia of local residents that wanted a part of the action and adventurers from the Neutral Ground. Then he made treaties with the Cherokee bands that had relocated to East Texas promising them more land. His militia seized Nacogdoches and raised a flag with two stripes of white and red, which indicated unity with the natives. The Cherokee had second thoughts so failed to send warriors when the 100 Mexican soldiers and 275 Texian militiamen arrived on January 31 to regain control of the region. The Army of Fredonia fled after a 10 minute fight with the superior forces. The perps fled to the USA and the Cherokee executed the two chiefs that signed the treaty for involving them in the venture. Due to that rebellion, the Spanish then stationed a larger garrison of soldiers at Nacogdoches to monitor then halt the flow of settlers entering from the Neutral Ground along the El Camino Real and from the north from Arkansas (safest route for avoiding bandits). The East Texians became fed up with the Mexican government so ran off their army garrisons at Nacogdoches and other towns in 1832. Santa Anna became highly concerned about East Texians ignoring Mexican laws so formed an army to march up there before Austin and others declared the Republic of Texas.

@rt3box6tx74

Жыл бұрын

Excellent synopsis.

You're a gem. Thank you for your history lessons 😊

Napoléon the third actually wanted to establish a small country for native countries if they mexican campaign was successful but it failed, even the British actually wanted to do the same in 1812 war but the war was a draw so no one benifited from it except the canndians who burned down the white house.

@shonenjumpmagneto

2 жыл бұрын

*for Native Americans

@distorted4378

2 жыл бұрын

*british, Canadians did not exist

@MrChristianDT

2 жыл бұрын

Hell, the US almost gave them an entire state to run as their own country during the American Revolution, if all the tribes in Ohio would side with them, but there was miscommunication & the tribes didn't understand what they were being asked/ offered, so barely any helped & the US tore up the treaty after the war was over. The Confederates were also going to allow Mississippi to be entirely Native Run, since it still had a somewhat large Native American population, irregardless of the Indian Removals. It almost happened a lot of times.

Do you draw everything? If this is the case then you have a really good skill as well as making great content!

Excellent content and Presentation.

The reason the Cherokee moved to Oklahoma is because they were forced to by Andrew Jackson. Commonly refer to as the “Trail of Tears”, the United States Government forced the people off of their homelands to Oklahoma, and many many people died. Then, the land that was promised them in Oklahoma was also eventually taken away as more people moved west.

@Sandlin22

Жыл бұрын

Aw well the Cherokee still faired far better in the long run. The Cherokee had no problem committing genocides on tribes that got in their way. That's the nature of history it's gross all around.

@mrakz03

Жыл бұрын

Cry me a trail of tears 😂😂😂😂😭😭

@billwilson3609

Жыл бұрын

That trek was made worse for everyone due to unusually bad weather that prevented the transport of supplies to the towns/forts along the way.

In Amelia Island, Florida the 8 flags which have flown over the Island are celebrated. Including the Patriots of Amelia Island ("East Florida") and MacGregor's Green Cross. There's also the Mexican Rebel flag (Blue & White checkerboard) which are all involved together in before Madison takes and returns Amelia Island to Spain. (The other 5 flags are Spanish, French, English, USA and Confederate) Search for the Isle of 8 Flags.

@loganfaucher

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I live here and it's nice to know others know about the history of our little island

👍👍 very cool & informative ☺️

As someone who has lived most of his life in the area of the Muskogee/Creek Nation of Oklahoma, I have never heard anyone mispronounce "Muskogee" like that before. The 'g' is a "hard g" like it "go" and "get" not the "soft g" you used.

You missed the conch republic, declared in 1982 in key west

@xviper2k

2 жыл бұрын

You know that's a joke, right?

@dahammer78

2 жыл бұрын

@@xviper2k What do you mean, it’s a glorious republic, that I now just realized still exists so wouldn’t be added to this list, with its wonderful time zone of summer.

@xviper2k

2 жыл бұрын

@@dahammer78 Riiiiiight. *wink wink*

You should do a video on Independence parties in countries in specific regions (Europe, Asia, Africa, The Americas)

Great topic and interesting content, yes do it for other Nations

Utah still really loved to use the desert name in various stuff around here. For example, we have a Thrift store chain run by the LDS church called Deseret Industries, and one of our local newspapers is called Deseret News

@jaegordon25

Жыл бұрын

That's because those are owned by the Church. Anything with Deseret in the name is likely owned by the LDS Church.

As an American who is interested in history (and who lives in San Diego, California, a former part of the "State of Deseret"), I found this informative! I didn't know there were _three_ countries in Florida. Thanks for the information!

@shonenjumpmagneto

2 жыл бұрын

4 actually. - East Florida - West Florida - The Floridas - Muskogee

@nicolasalfonso9419

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know even that I am from Florida

@selfdo

Жыл бұрын

@@shonenjumpmagneto So that's not SIX Flags over Florida (Spain, France, the UK, the USA, The CSA, and the Florida State flag), bur TEN.

@stephencontreras8322

Жыл бұрын

I am from sandiego too That’s cool information

@revolucion-socialista

Жыл бұрын

"Americans" are all people who live in the American continent, not just in the United States

Noticed that a lot happened in or near Florida. What about the Conch Republic in Key West?

@seanbrummfield448

2 жыл бұрын

After the Revolution, the US south itself would definitely make up the bulk of the US's history. I mean, just about anything. Slavery, Trail of Tears, Southern Gothic, wars lynchings, genocides, race riots, you name it, it's definitely the South.

@teresagriffin7023

2 жыл бұрын

Some would say it's not extinct, it pops up now and then to protest something!

@Jacksonn985

Жыл бұрын

i live in one of the west florida parishes in louisiana, the region from baton rouge to the ms border, north of lake ponchatrain are considered the west florida parishes, i never knew we had a republic until like 7th grade ss now im entering 9th grade so its been like 2 years, crazy.

Four. My state, Florida, had FOUR sovereign countries within its borders. What was forgotten or overlooked was the founding of the Conch Republic. When Key West and Monroe County decided that the roadblock set up by the US Border Patrol was seriously affecting tourism, they seceded. Mayor Dennis Wardlow and the council declared Key West's independence on April 23, 1982. In the eyes of the council, since the U.S. federal government had set up the equivalent of a border station as if they were a foreign nation, they might as well become one. As many of the local citizens were referred to as Conchs, the micronation took the name of the Conch Republic. Without going into detail, they designed a gorgeous flag!

ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING !!! Puts a whole new perspective on U.S. History.

Would you do a video on the origin of Caribbean Sea Nation names?

If I had to guess I would bet the stars on the Deseret Flag stood for the 12 Apostles and the large star either stood for the prophet or perhaps Chirst HImself. But thats just a guess.

Very well researched. Except for the pronunciations of the Native American names; they were almost all incorrect.

@cathiwim

11 ай бұрын

The narrator might not be a native English speaker. Listen to him pronounce the Spanish names. Rolls off his tongue.

@bob_._.

11 ай бұрын

@@cathiwim Or at least not an American, and nothing wrong with that. It's just a matter of not having heard the names before and transliterations of NA words almost never sounding like they look. And apparently I have no problem with his Spanish.

I think it's pretty questionable to say that the Iroquois Confederacy lacked a united national identity, since all of the member tribes spoke related "Northern Iroquoian" languages and stayed politically united for at least a hundred years, and possibly for several hundred years. *though some non-menbers also spoke Iroquoian languages, and even Northern Iroquoian languages. "Southern Iroquoian" basically means Cherokee, if you're curious.

Also worthy of mention would have been the Russian presence in northern California in the early 1800's. Fort Ross is now a "Historic Park", but there was a lot more to the story than just a small fort!

@emojidinosaur7300

Жыл бұрын

crazy right, california belongs to russia???

I can't think of one thing you said about the Cherokee Nation that was even close to correct. I'm a Cherokee, I still live in the Cherokee Nation.

The Iroquios Confederate is still in existence. They currently occupy several reservations with New YOrk state and Wisconsin, including the Onondaga Reservation which is located about five to ten miles from my house

The G in Muskogee is hard as in "get," as per the song "Okie from Muskogee."

As you said in the video, Deseret was merely a proposed territory/state of the U.S., *never* an independent country by either intent nor practice! Once their land became part of the U.S. after the Mexican-American War, the Mormons had no political interest in anything beyond remaining loyal U.S. citizens. They were also not autonomous in practice, as an accepted territorial government under the U.S. was quickly established, the only differences in opinion being the size and name of the territory.

@erwin669

2 жыл бұрын

You might want to look up the Mormon War of 1857-1858. Mormons who settled Utah were not too keen on allowing non-Mormons appointed by Washington to run the territory. Mormon militia attacked US Army troops assigned to the territory and on September 11, 1857 they massacured a California bound wagon train. Through the fall and into the spring the Mormon militia attacked US Army posts in the Utah Territory. In June 1858 President Buchanan offered the Mormons a pardon in exchange for accepting the authority of the US government. Utah would remain under military occupation until the territory legislature agreed to a speration between the government and the LDS Church.

@arfyego0682

Жыл бұрын

@@erwin669 the Utah War was more of a cold war, very little, if any, actual engagements took place. unfortunately the Mountain Meadows Massacre did happen and is inexcusable but be careful you don't accidentally buy into anti Mormon propaganda

@Compucles

Жыл бұрын

@@erwin669 Wow, do you have your facts wrong! 1) The Mountain Meadows Massacre was committed by people from a single town without any approval from any higher level of leadership in the territory. They were in fact told to let them go, but the return message arrived too late. 2) No army posts were ever attacked. 3) No such pardon offer was ever made, especially since the Territory had always accepted the authority of the U. S. Government. While Brigham Young was an unpopular territorial Governor in D.C., he peaceful stepped down when he was replaced. 4) Federal troops were only sent by Buchanan due to false rumors and incomplete information in an extremely embarrassing move by the President. The troops left shortly after arrival once they saw for themselves that there was no reason for them to be there.

McDonald Territory was an extralegal, unrecognized territory of the United States that existed for a short time in 1961. The area comprised all of present-day McDonald County, Missouri, United States. A provisional government chose the name when they attempted to secede the county from the state of Missouri in 1961. I remeber this when I was child. The story was that they were left off the map.

@furcorn9804

Жыл бұрын

where’s the Burger King territory?

You probably should have done a combo USA and Canada for this one, as quite a few of these span over both current boarders.

@philippineau3046

Жыл бұрын

including the missing Republic of Madawaska

Maybe you should include a mention of the Conch Republic (Florida Keys). Whether legitimate or not, it's at least an interesting story.

The Kingdom of Callaway in mid-Missouri. Missouri voted to secede but Union troops from St. Louis seized control of the government when the pro-Confederate governor left to organize troops. Missouri had 2 governments. At that time, Callaway County seceded from the state and declared itself the Kingdom, with Col. Jefferson Jones as Prince. Technically Union troops and Jones worked out a truce with the Union troops giving some recognition to the kingdom in return for the Kingdom’s army to disband and not side with Confederates. Technically Callaway never rejoined the USA during Reconstruction.

In here florida, some government buildings still wave those old flags, always wondered where they came form, now I know, thanks for the great video!

Just a quick thing: historically, "Iroquois" has never been the official name for that confederacy. Rather, they used and still use the term Haudenosaunee. "Iroquois" was what the Europeans called them and likely came from a deragatory term used for them by the Algonquin. While some members of the six nations are fine with Iroquois, others find it offensive.

You left out "The First Republic of Texas," April 1813-August 1813, where local citizens of San Antonio revolted against Spain. A man named Guiterez recruited volunteers in Louisiana along with an American named McGee. The McGee Guiterez Expedition returned to San Antonio and defeated the Spanish north west of the city. Seeking to get their POW's back they learned they had all been killed and tortured by local citizens. McGee and many volunteers were disgusted and many returned to Louisiana. McGee died before leaving and *Samuel Kemper took over leadership of the volunteers. (*A cousin of John Kemper of Kempers Bluff near Victoria and a volunteer at San Jacinto. This man was captured, eaten, then killed by Karankawa Indians in the 1840's.) In August of 1813 the Spanish returned to exact vengeance and defeated the rebels just south of San Antonio in what is known as "Battle of Encinal de Medina," the largest battle ever fought on Texas soil. Over 800 rebels killed and 800 cannon shots fired. Another short lived state after the Civil War was "The Free State of Jones." Created in an area of the deep south by free slaves and whites who together sought order where none existed and rejected both Confederate and Union rule.

@billwilson3609

Жыл бұрын

The Karankawa was a miserable tribe that was disliked by the natives, early explorers, the Spanish, Mexicans and settlers alike for practicing cannibalism. They're believed to be Caribs that made it from the islands to South America in the 1600's and began migrating to the north to end up living along the Texas Coastal Bend. They were the only coastal tribe that practiced covering their bodies with shark oil to drive away mosquitos and keep their skin soft. It also made them smell really bad like rotting fish which didn't help them to make friends with other tribes and Anglo newcomers.

@revolucion-socialista

Жыл бұрын

"Americans" are all people who live in the American continent, not just in the United States

I see Cherokee Nation license plates all the time where I live, I think they’re definitely still their own nation lol

should’ve mentioned the trail of tears in the 10:43 part because that’s why the Cherokee moved from tennessee/kentucky to oklahoma

There were three other republics of Texas. First from 1812-1813, next was 1819-1821, and the last one existed for a month in 1861. There were also a few short lived countries like the republics of Fredonia and the Rio Grande. 1826-1827 and 1840 respectively.

Very good job, but you forgot one country: The CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA

@fs9842

Жыл бұрын

They forgot themselves

@OompaLoompaDoopadyDoop

Жыл бұрын

They werent by definition a real country, they checked all boxes exept one, Independence... if they won the civil war (which they didnt) they would be independent because that was basically their Revolutionary War

@buckeyecountry04

11 ай бұрын

The Confederate States were never recognized as a Sovereign Nation

You seem to have forgotten one. The Confederate States of America. Interesting edit to the map at 12:30. I assume they originally said "Free states" and "Slave states". Particularly as part of the map you didn't edit says "Free territory".

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

That was just a group of rebel traitors who received no official diplomatic recognition.

@closedproject4708

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasforever7887 Most nations on this list didnt recieve any diplomatic recognition.

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

@@closedproject4708 True and they shouldn't count either

@closedproject4708

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasforever7887 The csa was a more legitimate "nation" than palestine imo.

@nicholascrowder740

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasforever7887 You say a group of Rebel traitors, I disagree. The Patriots during the American Revolution where traitors to Great Britain if you think along those lines.

8:33 I live on Amelia Island. We still fly the East Florida flag, the Green cross, and the Spanish, along with a few other obscure ones

My wife’s great great grandfather, Myron Hanchett, was one of the first Caucasians born in the early settlement of San Bernardino, in 1856. The Mormons purchased a large tract of land from Don Lugo for $50,000 in that area, which included Redlands, Ca. It became part of the nation of Deseret, from 1851-1857, at the behest of Brigham Young. Unfortunately, then President James Buchanan declared war on Utah in 1857. The settlers were needed up in Utah, to defend the main Salt Lake City area. So, they left Southern California, at that time.

You did have one nation that you left out that used to exist in the us, with similar status to that of the Vermont republic, in that it had its own currency and wasn’t officially recognized: The Confederate States of America, and perhaps the most important country that used to exist of all of these, directly going to war with the US, and heavily changing the course of history of the US.

Should be noted that Hawaii does have several independence movements made up of mostly ethnic Hawaiians, as for them the islands have been and are currently under an illegal American occupation. Which looking at it historically, they are very right. There are also smaller movements relating to indigenous nations on the mainland, but unfortunately it meets a similar fate as the Hawaiians - Signed, an ethnic Cherokee

@williammacdonald3173

2 жыл бұрын

It is legal. A treaty was signed

@leo1899

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammacdonald3173 lol sure it was legal, just like the American western expansion was made “legal” after they slaughtered and displaced the natives. For Europeans and their descendants, treaties are nothing but useless formalities.

@xviper2k

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the world is under "illegal occupation" if you wish to use that logic. But it doesn't hold up, as the US officially annexed the Republic of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii, which these small separatist movements wish to reinstate, had already ceased to exist by that point. There's simply no legal argument for "occupation."

@derrail_who4450

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammacdonald3173 there was no treaty. You must be referring to the joint resolution that was passed by the US government to annex hawaii. Funny thing about a joint resolution is that it is a domestic document that has no jurisdiction outside of the territory it is written. Hence making the annexation illegal and invalid.

@GenerationNextNextNext

Жыл бұрын

@@xviper2k Typical. To white people, if it doesn't follow Europeans' standards of "legal", it's not legal enough. If it doesn't look European, it's "tribal" and "not valid".

Utah choosing the 'bee hive' to boldly state their view to the world makes perfect sense to me. Create the bees in the hive first, then send the missionary ones flying all around to collect all the pollen they can, then bring it back to the hive for the workers to all enjoy. Gee, the bees got hives all over nowadays.

Interested didn't know this

THANK YOU for using the plural when referring to the United States of America! It might well be that no one else noticed, but when you said "... where the United States now are..." was a very welcomed breath of fresh air. Few people today seem to grasp the concept, but "the United States of America" was intended as a description, not a title. But you apparently get it.

@CastleWright

Жыл бұрын

I noticed he said "The United States are" which is incorrect. Before the Civil War people said the United States are because people felt more a part of their State than the country. After the Confederacy was defeated, it gradually shifted to "The United States is" because people grasped the concept that this is one country and if it we don't want it to "perish from the Earth" we need to be more loyal to that country than the State.

@cheapbastard990

Жыл бұрын

@@CastleWright They were right. The nation has to be held together by people who want to be together. But each state is or should be sovereign, and was until the so-called "civil war" which wasn't even a civil war. A civil war is two or more factions fighting over control of the same country. In the 1860s, it was one country invading another who was defending itself from invaders.

@CastleWright

Жыл бұрын

@@cheapbastard990 Your opinion has no basis in fact. Legally you are wrong. The Constitution gives the power over legal matters to the Supreme Court which ruled in Texas v White that states do not have the unilateral power to secede. Morally you are wrong. It is hypocritical for a state to argue it should have the power to secede while holding hostage a people who have no rights at all. Economically you are wrong. When the States attempted to secede they took Federal property they did not compensate the US for. You can't just grab other people's property, declare its yours and run. Historically you are wrong. If in fact the Confederacy was an independent nation, then under the norms nations operated under in the 19th century, the USA had every right to wage war on it, conquer it, and impose any peace it chose on it. Diplomatically you are wrong. No country at that time recognized the Confederacy as an independent nation, but rather a subsection in rebellion. The United States are not a confederation. The United States is one nation with liberty and justice for all.

Since you've said this before it's time to set this straight. In English & Hawaiian King Kamehameha is pronounced Kah-may-ah-may-ah. With the 'ahs' stressed.

@StandardWhale

2 жыл бұрын

I was so shocked when he said ka me ya me ah

@Kditto92

2 жыл бұрын

It's more Kah-meh-Ha-meh-Ha

@jaylaajr4225

Жыл бұрын

@@Kditto92 spot on pronunciation. That’s how it’s really said here in Hawai’i.

There was also the State of Franklin, an area in east TN and Western NC.

Fun fact - Hawaii begged the United Kingdom for a similar protectorate arrangement like New Zealand was offered in 1840 … but with territories already in Australia, NZ and China, it was a step too far for the British … this is why they adopted the British flag onto their own - and is the only US State still with the British flag on it.

Great video as always! One think I notice in your videos when you mention the US. It’s ‘the United States is’, not ‘the United States are’. While the name the country is plural it is still just one nation

@keithwolfe1942

2 жыл бұрын

It was are before Lincoln's presidency. He started saying the United Ststes is, instead of what it was before the United States are.

@Ghatbkk

2 жыл бұрын

Within the United States are many nations and 50 states (state being the word for a sovereign territory). The United States are a federation of those sovereign states.

@vincent412l7

2 жыл бұрын

He is using British English, where a single entity comprising multiple parts uses the plural verb.

@xviper2k

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ghatbkk The US states are not sovereign "nations." Their sovereignty begins and ends at the ability to decide their own laws, so long as they don't clash with the federal government's Constitution. There's no actual independence or foreign relations to manage at the state level. It's all a single country under a federal system. This isn't the EU.

@Ghatbkk

2 жыл бұрын

@@xviper2k Might want to read the Treaty of Paris.