Could Turkey Actually Join the EU?
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After Turkey switched stances to allow Sweden to join NATO, many believe Erdogan is using this position to leverage more EU accession talks. So in this video, we explain the history of their relations and whether Turkey might actually join the EU.
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00:00 Introduction
00:53 Pre-2005
02:02 2005-2016
02:52 2016-Now
05:43 Will Turkey Join the EU?
07:35 Brilliant
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I feel like there is a higher chance of the Ottoman Empire coming back than Turkey joining the EU.
@Steven-ly9ei
11 ай бұрын
Based ottoman empire joins eu? 😂
@italiastoria
11 ай бұрын
Or Constantinople becomes again the capital of the Roman Empire
@AmirSatt
11 ай бұрын
Erdogan Empire*, that will be the name of the dynasty
@migovas1483
11 ай бұрын
@@AmirSatt LOL, probably.. and considering his family 'success' probably is a very short dive.. 🤣
@TuAFFalcon
11 ай бұрын
@@AmirSatt lol
You guys made a mistake at 4:37, The border highlighted was the Turkish-Iranian border. Syria is to the south of Turkey
@Jefryy008
11 ай бұрын
@@zUJ7EjVD 🤨🤨😧
@gahane
11 ай бұрын
@@zUJ7EjVD They do, but I don't think TLDR will deliberately make stupid mistakes and harm their credibility as a serious news source just for some clicks
@SirComsicion
11 ай бұрын
Came here to say the exact same thing! TLDR puts out so much content, there's bound to be an honest mistake somewhere
@emreapaydn4064
11 ай бұрын
@@SirComsicion If it's for clicks, that's bad. But if it's an honest mistake, that's even worse. How come a serious news channel confuse Syria with Iran? That's like labeling Germany as Italy when showing France's neighbors. There should have been at least one person to know that is wrong.
@SirComsicion
11 ай бұрын
@@emreapaydn4064 they have 5 channels and post daily in most of them, I don't think this is telling of anything. Given all the data points in each video, and having to make original graphics, and the audio about the drone being shot down over Syria is still correct... That means it came down to them accidentally clicking on Iran when using the fill tool in paint. If getting a 99.5% in a class is good enough for Harvard, it should be good enough for us.
I can think of many reasons for Turkey not joining the EU: Their terrible economy The dictatorship regime Their borders which reach the middlea east Taking part in the war in the middle east Being a muslim nation which means..they don't align with western values Their aggresive stance against Greece mostly Not recognising Cyprus while recognising "The Turkish northern Cyprus" Their ties with Russia/ problems in NATO AND their POPULATION. They would be the country with the MOST representatives in the european parliament.. Those are the most impotant ones.
@SD-SD-SD
9 ай бұрын
Wake up Turkey and get a reality check. When Turkey : - adopts civilised principles, - stops acting like a pirate nation, - stops violating human rights like it’s an Olympic sport, - stop threatening every single country in the region with more invasions because Turkey suffers from small d*ck syndrome, - stops implementing ongoing genocides, - stops using chemical weapons on minority groups like the Kurds, - stops ignoring international law and treaties, - and quite simply starts resembling a modern day 21st century civilised country Then maybe then Turkey will be considered a modern day civilised nation . It’s that simple !!! Turkey is in a constant self inflicted backward state.
@dorukhanbozkurt5826
4 ай бұрын
as a turk I agree with you but we are not a muslim nation and under the right government we would definetely align with western values.
@suckalamink
2 ай бұрын
@@dorukhanbozkurt5826bro sorry but half your population are islamists...
@ugur4511
Ай бұрын
Christianity is not a European religion. The real religion of Europe was paganism of Greek origin. There was no civilization in Northern Europe, and they had a different pagan belief. This was the situation in Europe before Christianity
There's more chance of aliens landing on earth than there is of Turkey joining the EU.
@noblenefs
11 ай бұрын
LOOOL thats right
@blizzard1198
11 ай бұрын
You guys act like it's hard, aliens can already be here.
@d1rekt869
10 ай бұрын
well now we have aliens xd
@elenwen5784
10 ай бұрын
soooo when is turkey joining the eu?
@davidleatham5173
10 ай бұрын
@@elenwen5784 When the aliens make themselves known.
So I personally don’t see it happening simply because the EU already is annoyed with hungry and Poland. Turkey would be much worse than them.
@SkyGlitchGalaxy
11 ай бұрын
If they met the preconditions, that wouldn't be an issue. They have no intention of meeting those conditions.
@frankkobold
11 ай бұрын
@@SkyGlitchGalaxyplus, Cyprus has a veto.
@grf411
11 ай бұрын
@@frankkobold😂 don't forget greece
@beepboopbeepp
11 ай бұрын
Don’t say never when they are promising eu membership to a corrupt country like Ukraine. I fully support Ukraine in the war, but lets not forget their reputation pre war. Not as if thats gonna magically dissapear now when it finishes
@bluhbluhblahblah
11 ай бұрын
@@beepboopbeepp saying they can join and letting them join is 2 different things, as having them actually join means a lot of requirements which Ukraine would have to meet.
At this point, Serbia is more likely to join ASEAN than Turkey is likely to join the EU
@ryoukaip
11 ай бұрын
vãi
@osheridan
11 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Singapore was both the only country to approve Serbia joining ASEAN, and the only country to not approve East Timor joining ASEAN
@herrdoctor2895
11 ай бұрын
Fuck it, let them in
@adineatha9766
11 ай бұрын
🤣
@swedemartyrsonswade
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
Even Turks, as myself, don’t believe it. Erdogan himself doesn't believe it. He just use it for internal politics or external investments to Turkiye. It also doesn't matter to enter EU. Turkey's should reform itself. With the right moves, it can easily be the power house of the region. Plus, no need to be part of the union, just apply EU standards in law, justice and economy.
@oguzhan9424
11 ай бұрын
Turkey? Reform towards who? Isn’t Turkiye already a powerhouse? EU laws in Turkiye? You put all the wrong reasons in one comment! Or are you one of those Carbonated Bottle Caps who is about %47 of Turkiye? Kime hizmet ediyorsun sen!
@AVV_Beats
11 ай бұрын
Those EU standards would stop Erdogan and his friends making billions, so it will never happen.
@esenakap5577
11 ай бұрын
Hay ağzına sağlık..yorumları okuyorum da sanki biz çok hevesliyiz de..kendini beğenmiş kibir abideleri..
@EmreKaraogluU
11 ай бұрын
That's what should we talking about
@SD-SD-SD
10 ай бұрын
The pirate nation Turkey has invaded and currently occupies many countries, including a EU country (Cyprus) since 1974. It is therefore 100% impossible for the pirate nation Turkey to join the EU. The EU is not allowed to accept Turkey membership while Turkey continues to act like pirates and illegally invade and occupy many countries.
one of the best videos on the topic, provided much needed context. Thanks
Looking at how North Macedonia has massive difficulties joining it, I doubt it will happen considering Greece and Cyprus will demand massive concession from Turkey.
@starman1144
11 ай бұрын
Turkey is occupying half of Cyprus so first there is that.
@teaser6089
11 ай бұрын
@@starman1144 Yeah and Turkey continously trying to pretend they own the Aegean Sea, even though Greek owns it, cause of their islands
@hellothere1656
11 ай бұрын
@@teaser6089U mean islands which are way too small to be classed as islands. Let's be real, Greece only suddenly began caring about those waters because the Turks found gas there. And even if Turkiye withdraws from Cyprus, Northern Cyrpus will still remain as its own state. South Cyprus couldn't take it without causing a war which will just make Turkiye invade again.
@kreb7
11 ай бұрын
Turkey threatens Greece with war so is that too.
@teaser6089
11 ай бұрын
@@hellothere1656 That's not how the UN works, all Islands are seen as Islands, look at how China is Island hopping and Japan is pouring concrete on islands to keep them from going under, those are also valid islands, whilst being made out of 90% concrete. The Greek Islands in the Aegean Sea are old and 100% Greek Claimed, allowing Greece to exert their economic exclusion zone from them. Just because Turkey illegally made boreholes to find gas, doesn't mean Turkey now gets to claim territory that isn't theirs to claim.
4:38 That's Iran, not Syria
@SpaghetiKid
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought Syria was looking very different
@AlpArslanTheSeljuk
11 ай бұрын
Bro 😂
@realhawaii5o
11 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment.
@shway1
2 ай бұрын
they usually make great well-researched videos, but when they make mistakes they are really ridiculous ones like obvious mispronunciations or editing mistakes like this map. my guess is needs a better review process, smarter editors, and for the presenters to not only read articles but also watch videos about the topics they are going to be talking about
Very nice review of the Turkey-EU relations so far. However, at 4:37, the map highlights Iran, not Syria, which is at the bottom left of that image.
As a Turk, what should Turkey do to join eu is actually simple. Develope human rights, improve economy and elect democratic people. So far none of these things are possible near future for Turkey.
@adastra6223
11 ай бұрын
Nope it’s simple 97% of turkey is in asia
@panzerkampfwagen6tiger2
11 ай бұрын
@@adastra6223 i mean if turkeys joining means stronger eu, no politician will care. They did not think like you since they approved turkeys candidate. If you would ask my opinion, i dont support joining eu. Strong and good relations , free visa, customs union is enough. It is practically same thing actually, at least for people.
@SD-SD-SD
11 ай бұрын
@@panzerkampfwagen6tiger2… rubbish, stay out of the EU - Turkey is a cancer that just causes problems - end of story !!
@ElizabethWoolridgeGrant0
11 ай бұрын
@@adastra6223 nope Cyprus is in Asia what about that :D
@user-uy3gt8mu1l
9 ай бұрын
And them to get out of Cyprus!
Imagine getting a worse version of hungary with some actual power, influence and relevance and a failing monetary system. Itd be a net Leech for EU funds
@davideyt1242
11 ай бұрын
our corrupt leaders always look for a good way to steal more tax payer money, in many creative ways
@Sagarock
11 ай бұрын
What a roast
@selfcrash
11 ай бұрын
eyy our economy more bigger that many EU country, our currency bad because someones stealing money and about democracy, even Türkiye have own democrasy more better many EU, our country not do and hide things, EU so professional about hide their bad things.
@keonwilson3505
11 ай бұрын
@@selfcrash where Lira value? Where peace at the borders? Where functional democracy?
@teaser6089
11 ай бұрын
@@rainman1242 Turkey has a GDP of 0.8 times that of The Netherlands whilst having 4.7 times the population LOL. Netherlands has a GDP of 1 trillion USD, whilst Turkey has 819 Billion USD. Making The Netherlands the 17th most powerful economy, and the 10th best GDP per capita. Whilst having 0.2% of the worlds population and whilst being the 131th largest country in the world xD
Great video!
The answer is a resounding NO.
4:37 That looks like Iran, not Syria tho 🤔
Something is pretty wrong about the 4:36 map: that country on the map is not Syria but Iran.
As a turkish person i can easily say we dont want to be in eu anymore. We know it will never going to happen especially with this government. So i think Turkey should keep its relations with europe as a nato ally.
@fan2hd277
11 ай бұрын
Turkey can join the EU but never under a corrupt authoritarian regime. We already have Hungary and to some extend Poland as difficult members.
@HellStr82
11 ай бұрын
As an European I can tell you we never wanted Turkey in the EU and we never will. And also we should kick you out of NATO as well
@wingedhussar1453
11 ай бұрын
Turkey needs to make pacts and allies with Eastern world and make that flourish.its history is more in middle east then europe.
@Emirr.2
11 ай бұрын
@@nitroall If i remember right like a ten years ago we had free visa to all eu members. But i have to say most of us wont be able to go to the europe with this poor economy so probably nothing would change.
@Emirr.2
11 ай бұрын
@@fan2hd277 You are right
As a Turk, I know that even if we meet all the criteria, our country will never be admitted to the European Union. While there are days when political conditions may bring some countries to support our membership, all these statements will remain insincere. Personally, I believe that striving to fulfill the necessary conditions for EU membership and creating an agenda in this regard would bring significant benefits for our country rather than being accepted as a member. (Of course, as long as we strive without compromising our independence and national interests) Therefore, I see the European Union not as a goal but as a means for our progress. Greetings to all our European friends from Turkey👋
@yenilikci5682
11 ай бұрын
They don't want us. It is what it is. Who cares. We already get the economic&trade zones. Actually joining the EU would limit Turkey. We don't need to. It would have been nice if we joined in 2012-2013, but instead Germany kept making up new points to allow us in(Only Germany and Belgium were left denying, btw. Even Greece&Cyprus was supportive.) So yeah, who cares. Boo hoo.
@hamlet557
11 ай бұрын
Turkey detained a Portuguese person for 20 days just because he looked gay. If someone promised you that he will allow middle eastern barbarians into EU, it's a lie.
@cagasrnkzlkayastudent7123
11 ай бұрын
@@hamlet557 1- This is an allegation. 2- According to the allegation, the perpetrators are a group of police officers, and it cannot be attributed to Turkey as a whole (Although the current Turkish government may have an anti-LGBT stance, I can confidently state that they are not radical enough to arrest "a tourist" solely based on this reason). 3- It is acceptable to argue that there may be policies that marginalize people based on their sexual orientation. However, attributing this solely to being from the Middle East and labeling it as barbaric is a racist fallacy. In summary, while defending human rights based on an allegation, you have openly engaged in racism. As you also mentioned, I agree with the thesis that we will not be accepted into the European Union, and that all promises regarding this matter are lies. One reason for this is individuals like you who claim to live by EU values but fail to comprehend these values. When interests and values clash, Europe chooses its own interests, and this is quite rational. As long as you view the world with a superiority complex and exhibit hypocrisy regarding your values, you will remain an institution that is not liked, criticized, but with which we must maintain our relations due to our material interests.
@hamlet557
11 ай бұрын
@@cagasrnkzlkayastudent7123 I just saw how turkish authorities destroyed store signs which had arabic letters. If we did the same for all turkish stores in EU, you'd be screaming like hell, but now you pretend that Turks aren't just faschist barbarians. Trying to insult me using the generic "you racist" doesn't work with me, because I know the norms in your country and the fact that especially the so called "seculars" are often more hardcore nationalists than LePen and AfD combined. Turks are ok when their sultan is detaining random people and they come up with more and more crazy excuses to defend him. If you think that we forgot that your sultan tried to sue a german journalist for doing satire exactly as he does with every other EU politician, you are wrong! We remember. You detain random people and imprison journalists, opposition politicians and even underaged kids in the middle east That's your values, that's your customs and you have the right to be backwards. But I have the right to say my opinion on that.
@BholaSingh-vv6ej
10 ай бұрын
why would you even want to join europe while 97% of your land in asia??
Imagine Erdogan joining the EU. All of a sudden, Poland and Hungary would look like great democracies and their blackmailing would become unnoticeable in comparison to Turkey.
@itachi7285
11 ай бұрын
Hmm yes the west would know a lot about blackmail in their democracies wouldn't they? How is Assange doing btw?
@ZOCCOK
11 ай бұрын
@@itachi7285 tbh, they would actually, and for the exact same reason you stated 😂.
@pep-qew1977
11 ай бұрын
Poland IS a democratic nation.
@prof5282
11 ай бұрын
This guy things the EU is the living standard of LIFE. You don't know anything about Turkey let alone their blackmailing. You have countries who helped US invade the middle easting killing millions BUT BlAcKMaIL?! UNACCEPTABLE
@uqs57bju
11 ай бұрын
@@itachi7285 You are mentioning a problem the US has when we are talking about the EU. The extradition is being blocked by the UK for crying out loud.
Fatih Altaylı a Turkish journalist today told a memory of his from 25 years ago with the head of Deutsche Bank appearently he said the following: Turkey will never get into EU becasue in order for you to enter EU you need to stop the authority of the turkish army on turkish politics but as soon as you stop that you will face another problem whenever army authority decreases turkish politics gets under the influence of religion in this case you won't even be able to dream entering due to rising islamism. I guess he was right
Guys, as an Erdogan opposition Turkish citizen for 28 years, we knew from the start EU won't let us be a member in EU. For us, it was not about becoming a member or not, it was our own test to reach higher standarts. We Turks respect and admire the standarts but we also know we won't be a member. We know if we were full time member of the EU parlaiment we know we would be a major player in the politics. We know if our country becomes a member, our citizens will flee like Romanians did.
I think NATO would collapse after Turkey leaves. NATO could not live without Turkey and Europe would be without protection. Europe needs Turkey.
@mehmetbatms347
10 ай бұрын
aynen bak şu an çok ihtiyacı var. tam şu an
@aristoskonstantinou1248
10 ай бұрын
Amma atıyorsun be 😂
@serkankinden5150
10 ай бұрын
@@aristoskonstantinou1248 Yunanistan'a da zamanında aynısını yapmalıydık. Bence hiç izin vermemek lazım bunların NATO'ya girmesine, NATO'ya bizden çok asker veren yok. Neyse artık bir dahaki sefere. Yunanistan kesin bir ara, ben bir çıkıp tekrar gireyim der. Hayatlarının hatası olur. Keşke bir çıksalar da bir daha almasak, Allah'ım inşallah!
TLDR starts at 0:02 and ends at 0:15.
Letting Turkey into the EU would be a mistake of epic and unparalleled proportions. It would quite literally spell the end of the EU.
@gavasiarobinssson5108
11 ай бұрын
Lets hope so!
@bigruapurart
11 ай бұрын
Turkey in it's current form, yes. But if they met the standards that are required to be in the EU, it would not.
@Red0543
11 ай бұрын
@@bigruapurart Turkey has shown that they are either incapable or unwilling to meet the required standards. It would take at least 20 to 50 years for them to fully change course and meet the standards.
@75davide47
11 ай бұрын
yes, because turks will never feel themselves as europeans. if turkey join there would be no more UNION, it would turn back at european economic community
@bigruapurart
11 ай бұрын
@@Red0543 what part of "Turkey in it's current form" was hard to understand?
I don't see it happening. There is no country in EU that wants to give Turkey any power over anything that is going on in Europe. Turkey is not Western enough and not European enough.
Great video. One quetion, you located the Turkish-Syrian incident (4:38) on the Turkish-Iranian border.
We already have hungary at home
@danieleyre8913
11 ай бұрын
Orban will more than likely be a bad memory by the end of the decade.
why tf is this even really in discussion when the cyprus problem is still not resolved? they are an EU member and thus can veto the entry of any new member
@Kemalist0008
11 ай бұрын
Greece started the cyrpus problem, by killing and driving citizens to sea For no reason. Turkish troops came in to save their Innocent citizens.
@solaris1459
11 ай бұрын
Cyprus problem would've been solved in 2004 if Greek Cypriots voted yes to reunify. Turk Cypriots voted yes, Greek cypriots didnt. basically you could say Greek Cyprus is now causing more issues than the Turkish. i wont be able to tell much here so just check "2004 Cypriot Annan Plan referendum" in wikipedia
@ipel4
11 ай бұрын
@@solaris1459Apparently they didn't see the deal as fair.
@apgmk1970
11 ай бұрын
@@solaris1459 Doesn't matter. They can simply veto Turkey's membership. No questions asked. They don't have to be right, they don't even need to make up a reason. They simply say "no" and it's over.
@abdullaht.5415
11 ай бұрын
@@apgmk1970 Most of us actually doesn't even want to get in eu. We are not puppet of europe
There is a small oversight at 4:38 , on the map the country marked as Syria is actually Iran, Syria would be in the bottom left corner
There’s a higher chance of my grandma remembering my name than Turkey joining the EU.
Whenever I see Turkey talk about entering the EU I'm always wondering : Have they just forgotten about cryprus or just think that cryprus will magically open the door for them?
@akwamarsunzal
11 ай бұрын
I guess if Greece had not sent forces into Cyprus to systematically drive Turkish Cypriots into the sea then Turkey would not have sent troops into Cyprus to defend the Turkish Cypriots.
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
11 ай бұрын
@@akwamarsunzalThat's besides the point.
@Sagoir
11 ай бұрын
@@akwamarsunzal ok, thats in the past, but cyprus and greece are both in the EU and Turkey is not. Why should they allow Turkey to join?
@nonamenoname2767
11 ай бұрын
@mr-andrewthere is a totally different government in the north last checked the Greek Cypriots in the south were coming to cheaper northern Cyprus to rent apartments
@nonamenoname2767
11 ай бұрын
Cyprus issue could have been solved if Greek Cypriots were to say yes to Annan plan. The ones who want to unite the island were Turkish Cypriots but who were accepted to EU were Greek Cypriots to further complicate the Cyprus problem. The Western world and most of the Greek Cypriots are not sincere in their talks about Cyprus division. Everytime they say ahh we are occupied but when a solution is to be put to the table they are the ones who leave it and say no because they use the power of looking like vulnerable little brother at the end of the Mediterranean sea who need funds from the almighty EU
I'm Turkish and no Turkey would never be in EU
@marcdc6809
11 ай бұрын
today I would even throw them out of nato, but never say never, I have to explain to my grandfather that today Germany and Japan fight on the side of the US as trusted allies with a working democracy...
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
11 ай бұрын
@@marcdc6809I won’t rule it out either, but there is a lot of work to do.
@tg22dogimogi89
11 ай бұрын
@@marcdc6809 Yeah we ain't a real democratic nation but kicking us from NATO is wild bro, like it or not Turkey did a lot for NATO and the nation's military or geopolitical region is soo valuable to West
@A.e.m-qm9yi
11 ай бұрын
Thanks , and we don't want it NEVER EVER 😂
@adineatha9766
11 ай бұрын
And it's a simple answer: 98% of Turkey is in Asia.
a note: in 4:38 you named Iran in the map as syria mistakenly. maybe not important but is worth to notice. Thanks for the video.
4:36 That's not Syria, that's Iran. Correct it.
Unless our EU Politicians get shady, Turkey has the same possibility to join the EU as a flower to grow on the moon. Besides Erdogan (which is a lot to forget) there is a small problem regarding Turkey's occupation of Cyprus.
@yourealittlebitfat4344
11 ай бұрын
Ah yes because they aren't shady right now xD
@teaser6089
11 ай бұрын
@@yourealittlebitfat4344 They'd have to become even more shady, as shady as the nightest(I proclaim this to be a word) of nights.
@uqs57bju
11 ай бұрын
@@yourealittlebitfat4344 They really are a lot less shady than you believe. For them to be shady, you would have the individual members be shady. Stop this childish fearmongering and actually look into how well made the EU is and just how hard it would be to corrupt.
@donquixote1502
11 ай бұрын
@@teaser6089 hahahaha, I get nightest!
@cocobunitacobuni8738
11 ай бұрын
and it will need Greece's approval 🤣
Not as things stand now, but hey, Turkey can always make the right changes and join in the future. Just don't expect EU to change for Turkey =P
@Qwerty32134313
11 ай бұрын
500 years and so little change. Why would they change now?
@filipe5722
11 ай бұрын
The EU absolutely has to change to accomodate Turkey. Their massive population is a problem as it would greatly alter the power balances in the bloc which means some nations will naturally oppose accession. Nowadays this is not even brought as an argument because Turkey doesn't even respect the basic standards of democracy and rule of law, but it's still a relevant one.
@Qwerty32134313
11 ай бұрын
@@arisnotheles I have and I know, and I acknowledge his reforms. But at the same time there is the past: The Armenian Genocide (Hamidian massacres), the Greek Genocide (Pontic genocide, Smyrna Catastrophe), The Bulgarian one (Devshirme, Batak massacre, other). And the present - Cyprus, Daily invasion internationally recognized Greek water and air, Syria, The Kurdish, Libya and other. Just a few days ago they literally extroted US and EU and NATO, among others to get more weapons. So for me personally they lack in progress and good will.
@aminuaidara8601
11 ай бұрын
Turkey it's a Muslim country okay they look burnt abandoned their values if that is what you mean by change or acceptan this LGTBQZY We know today for some country's in EU man and a man can get married and receive marriage certificate 😢😢😢😢 we Muslims don't want turkey joining the EU this country's the Western countries want nothing good for Muslims country's okay we know this very well
@aminuaidara8601
11 ай бұрын
@@Qwerty32134313we ar Muslims an very proud of who we ar we Muslims will never change just to be in the EU........ It's the EU who hav to change for good go back to GOD
To paraphrase Herr Schäuble, the former minister for the interior later finances of Germany in July 2004: the day Mexico becomes a part of the US that day Turkey will join the EU.
Around 2010 I met a European doing a PhD on the Turkish accession process, with very good contacts in the Turkish Government, EU Embassies in Ankara and Brussels. He said everyone said the same thing, phase 1 was alignment of economic rules and regulations that would help make the Customs Union work and reduce the friction of trade and investment between the EU and Turkey for everyone's benefit. Phase II was the wider legal and political alignment with EU standards which everyone expected would be a long hard process for the distant future. That's fundamentally different to Erdogan's constant and very successful narrative of "we've done everything and we're only being kept out because EU is anti-muslim". Meanwhile 1995-2010 was the high period in the west of "Once you embrace free markets and democracy, forever will it dominate your destiny" - push countries to reform and they'd turn into perfect liberal Western democracies. Some countries were arguably let in too early and once they're in there's no leverage, and now the EU has constant headaches with Rule of Law in Poland and Hungary. No country, especially one as big as Turkey, is getting in until it has ticked every box.
@brieflyPost
11 ай бұрын
Turkey is doing well without EU, I don't get this urge to join.
@NisseCrusader
11 ай бұрын
@@brieflyPost Turkey is extremely poor if you compare them to EU countries. Small countries in the EU even give Turkey financial aid. If they were doing well they would not have leeched €3.34 billion since 2012 from the EU.
@yenilikci5682
11 ай бұрын
@@NisseCrusader I think he means geopolitically, not humanity-wise, like, Turkey as an entity, is doing good. The people though, as a Turk, I would not say so.
@brieflyPost
11 ай бұрын
@@NisseCrusader bruh 3 bil for immigrants policing, nothing is free you know. poor in EU look at this countries GDP Per capita. Romania ? Greece ? Latvia? Bulgaria ? Turkey is a G20 Country ffs
@NisseCrusader
11 ай бұрын
@@brieflyPost Funny how you mention GDP per capita, all of those countries have higher GDP per capita than Turkey. Turkey GDP per capita = 9 661 USD Bulgaria = 12 221 USD Latvia = 21 148 USD Romania = 14 858 USD Greece = 20 192 USD
Short answer: No Long answer: Also no
im turkish i dont even let turkey in
@ArdaM373
11 ай бұрын
Sağol ya
@fbabarbe430
11 ай бұрын
Do the best you can. 🙏
@davideyt1242
11 ай бұрын
This is understandable, maybe as a Turk you know better - you do not want to "import" the problems your parents have escaped from to where you are right now.
@teaser6089
11 ай бұрын
LOL You are the first Turk I found in the comment section that isn't a Erdogan Propganda repeater!
@chilloutcentral2097
11 ай бұрын
I hope one day Turkey fulfills all the criteria and leaves Cyprus to join the EU.
4:36 -"close to the Turkish-Syrian border" *casually showing Iran as Syria on the map*💀
A decade or two ago Turkish people indeed wanted to join EU and considered themselves closer to west than east, today thought they don't give a flying fuck about it. I don't know what's the Erdo's masterplan here but with Sweden's NATO approval even his own voters criticized him.
I don’t agree that enlargement fatigue is delaying Turkey’s EU accession. That would have been correct prior to the Ukraine war. The other reasons stated are correct however.
Ever since I was given birth I knew very well that it is impossible for Turkey to join EU due to various factors (I am Turkish)
@uqs57bju
11 ай бұрын
It's nothing personal. There is just too much that needs to be fixed for it to happen my friend. If Turkey seemed to try and fix this then it could become possible, but there isn't really that much evidence of that happening.
@kerimerten515
11 ай бұрын
@@uqs57bjuwe all know that EU won’t accept Turkiye at any price. Actually we are not interested in that kind of thing. We were quite happy until that refugees invasion. The only thing that should Erdoğan do letting refugees to go EU. We should stop preventing them to go anywhere. And we will see that all problems will be solved.
@x_Arone_x
10 ай бұрын
@@uqs57bju My people are stupid so unless something extreme happens nothing will change :(
short answer: no long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@dariusalexandru9536
11 ай бұрын
accurate
Good summary, but the map is wrong, in that Iran is marked as Syria. Around 4:30 min mark.
4:36 Just a mistake you've made: You said "Syria border dispute" but on the map you highlighted Iran.
A good partnership with commercial agreement, Erasmus and visa exemption, sure. But Turkey inside the EU would be the end of the EU. It is already problematic with Hungary and sometimes Poland.
@baha3alshamari152
11 ай бұрын
Turkey won't be accepted in EU because they have land borders with Syria Iraq and Iran
@Bolognabeef
11 ай бұрын
I don't think Erasmus would be a good idea, it will drain the treasuries of the EU quickly considering the enormous young population of Turkey.
@hyperpedro2868
11 ай бұрын
@@Bolognabeef There is already Erasmus+ with Turkey. It goes both ways. European students go to Istanbul too. And it is not like a pure free movement area.
@Emilechen
11 ай бұрын
you are realistic, sincs if even Turkey can bein EU, why not Israel, Armenia, Lebanon or Morocco? if EU becomes too big, it will become an loose forum inside of a solid union,
@apgmk1970
11 ай бұрын
@@Emilechen Because Turkey has territory in Europe and the other countries don't? Did you sleep in geography class?
There is no way Greece and Cyprus are allowing Turkey to enter. Also Turkey doesn’t even recognize Cyprus which is an EU country
@alaneldira9578
11 ай бұрын
You forget that without Turkey's permision Cyprus could't be in the EU
@markdowding5737
11 ай бұрын
@@alaneldira9578 Why on earth would Cyprus need Turkey's permission to join the EU? Imagine if Turkey was required to ask permission from Spain to join the Union of Turkic Countries.
@Steven-ly9ei
11 ай бұрын
@alaneldira9578 and hopefully one day they'll get kicked back out of Cyprus :) invading countries is bad mmmkay
@alaneldira9578
11 ай бұрын
The approval of the guarantor countries in Cyprus is needed. Of course, if you say that there are two different countries in Cyprus😜
@Steven-ly9ei
11 ай бұрын
@alaneldira9578 are you really trying to brag that you couldn't even conquer Cyprus right now, even Russia would view that puppet as sad 🥲🥲
Not as long as their leader is here.
Greece definitely does not have a border dispute with Turkey *over Cyprus*. The Republic of Cyprus, backed by Greece, France, the EU and international law does have a border dispute with Turkey under the form of military occupation of the unrecognised TRNC. The video frames it rather weirdly. Also, in 2005 a major factor for the freezing of Turkey’s accession was the occupation of Northern Cyprus by Turkish troops as the Republic of Cyprus accessed the EU in 2004 and the Annan Plan to reunify the island had failed a month earlier. So according to the immediately following EU Council the whole island of Cyprus had accessed the EU as the legal territory of the Republic of Cyprus (not counting the Sovereign Base Areas) and Turkey was (and still is to this day) occupying with its army sovereign Cypriot - and therefor EU - territory. It’s in big parts what froze the accession process ad vitam eternam. And that’s just regarding the EU’s process. Because the Republic of Cyprus also has veto (like every member state) on any accession. The Cyprus issue was clearly understated in this video. Especially because in no way can Turkey’s accession be seriously considered while it props up the nationalists in the TRNC and even pushed for closer integration of Northern Cyprus into Turkey while crashing the peace negotiations and doubling down on reopening Varosha against international law and previous ECHR decisions.
@user-bd8gj5ze1q
8 ай бұрын
Cyprus is Turkish. This wouldn't have happened if the Greeks had treated the Turks like humans. Do you know what the Greeks did to the Turks or are you the classic two-faced western troll? Long live the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus!
To join the EU, Turkey would need to take tangible steps to align itself towards Europe and away from the Asian/Middle Eastern sphere. But it’s really unlikely that Erdogan will willingly let go of the influence and territory he has in that region (Cyprus, Syria, etc)
@mehmetsahsert3284
11 ай бұрын
Turkey cannot align completely with western geopolitics turkey will always have a mix of both western and Eastern politics sheerly because of our geological position. You can't expect a country to be a beacon of west when it borders Asia and Europe at the same time. No one in eu has the problems turkey has.
@BojanBojovic
11 ай бұрын
@@mehmetsahsert3284 This is true, but if Turkey wants to join European structure then it should change some of the habits, it would not be the first time as Ataturk did this once at much greater extent. I am saying this from Serbia's perspective which is in a similar position, officially politicians want to join the EU, however the mentality of people is against it so it would be very difficult as well. In both cases, Turkey and Serbia need to remove dictators from power and to return from clerical nationalism to democracy, and then to give back power to institutions, before this is done neither of those two countries will progress but only regress to dark ages.
@apgmk1970
11 ай бұрын
@@mehmetsahsert3284The best we can hope for is a bilateral treaty. Full membership is practically impossible.
@nahtatroll
11 ай бұрын
@@mehmetsahsert3284Georgia
@MMerlyn91
11 ай бұрын
Why should he? Does Europe "take steps away" from where it has influence? What kind of stupid thinking is that? There are many reasons why Turkey should never be allowed into the EU but that is not one of them. We should be thankful Erdogan doesn't pull a Lukashenko on us with the migrants, after all it wasn't him who got us in this mess, it was the beloved Mutti Merkel and her idiotic open borders policy that did it.
6:00 not just France, at least under current governments, both France and Germany think that the EU needs to be reformed away from unanimity voting to qualified majority voting for all situations before they'll let anyone else in.
@uqs57bju
11 ай бұрын
Which is what the EU has been going towards for awhile now and for good reasons.
@Emilechen
11 ай бұрын
EU is always too big, at the beginning, it was just a Western Europe German-Latino Union, so it worked very well, now EU has many new Eastern Slavic members, EU needs time to fully integrate them, Turkey is a regional power and the co-leader of Turko-Iranic world, its role in EU is weird,
@Dendarang
11 ай бұрын
@@codmobile673 "40-60 years" is way too much. Montenegro could be admitted by the end of this decade, if unanimity rules are scrapped and no one blocks them. 2030s could easily have Ukraine, Albania, North Macedonia joining, again depending on internal EU issues at will for enlargement.
Wtf there is a huge mistake on the map which actually shows Turkiye-Iran border.
Friendly heads-up: what's marked as "Syria" on the map at ~4:36 is in fact Iran.
We're closer to colonizing Mars than Turkey is to becoming an EU member.
@366fps
11 ай бұрын
😂
@enricofromm4994
11 ай бұрын
👍
@Kuzey__
11 ай бұрын
fr Lol
@alikhodajani6075
11 ай бұрын
After Turkey Afghanistan and Pakistan will be next in the queue to join EU ! 🤣🤣🥶🥶🤯🤯
Maybe a free trade deal but the EU doesn’t need turkey’s economic instability impacting the bloc. Also it doesn’t meet the democratic requirements. The EU have their hands full with the Hungarian government.
@aminuaidara8601
11 ай бұрын
Poor u we Muslims don't need the EU economy too all we Muslims country's need to do its work together we have all what we need not like the EU who hav to bring everything they need to survive from outside..... I pray Turkey will never be the EU
@cpcoach3744
11 ай бұрын
hungary should be excluded from EU and NATO
@blizzard1198
11 ай бұрын
What significance does Hungary even hold?
@ruskygelovich5469
11 ай бұрын
@@blizzard1198 As the eu is a democratic organization every memeber state has the same influence when it comes to voting on issues like common foreign policies, fiscal policies or also economic aid to certain nations. Hungary under Orban has proved itself of being an authoritarian and questionable democracy that to this day has been a thorn in the eu side as to deal with russia...as a matter of facts hungary was one of the few nations to declare themselves "neutral" and nit allow nato aid to go theough hungary to reach ukraine.
@user-si8cf2we5w
11 ай бұрын
@@ruskygelovich5469 i think you should know more about EU before you speak.first of all for turkey to join ALL member have to agree not the majority.secondly turkey is desperate to join in order to get the funding from EU to try to improve her crappy economy.without joining turkey has no claim on those funds.third you already saw that greece and france blocked the arm deal with europe that turkey wanted so desperately.
I just got whiplash watching this.
@SD-SD-SD
11 ай бұрын
Read the comments and you’ll get some more whiplash :-)
Basically no. There's a lot of rules and checkpoints. Maybe he could start the process, but it has to clear some pretty big checkpoints, both social and economical
As a Turk, I dont think we can or will ever join EU, in fact like nearly all the others around me gave up on that dream looong ago. We dont care anymore.
@kacperzimowski4626
11 ай бұрын
some folks like me really want you to be in the EU! and that's coming from a central european. Yes, maybe I'm not i the majority but I have been in Turkey. I have far too many Turkish friends to just keep you at bay like that.
@Chrysobubulle
11 ай бұрын
Good cause we don’t want you to join
@MojiMikato
11 ай бұрын
@@kacperzimowski4626 nah we dont want to be European or change our culture to be a copy cat of you. We can still be friends i guess.
@MojiMikato
11 ай бұрын
@@Chrysobubulle i guess your bvtt is still hurting about the history? Lol Im glad we are making you mad.
@MillerOtede
11 ай бұрын
@@MojiMikato this ain't about you my man... whether you want it or not, EU talks will always continue. This is a political game played by both sides, as it benefits everybody. Both sides know it will never happen, but the benefits (such as Customs Union) are too good to break the relationship up. I think the logical step would be to get visa liberalisation and an updated Customs Union, and I personally think this will happen eventually. After that, we might join something like EFTA, but even that is reaching too far right now. Priority should be visa liberalisation for Turkish citizens.
Turkey is a completely different culture and religion than most of Europe, let alone the fact that they aren't really even apart of the European continent. They would be better off making a similar agreement with countries in the middle east, god knows they bloody need it. They should be trying to solve the shia/sunni conflict, or even the ethnic divide in their own region. A good example of how different Turkey is to Europe is the recent debacle with Sweden and NATO, with the whole Quran burning stuff. They let religion interfere with politics and its only bound to make the EU even less efficient then it already is.
@sharknado623
11 ай бұрын
They act with religion the same way we Europeans did in 1600.
@JustAnotherAccount8
11 ай бұрын
@@sharknado623 indeed because islam is a relatively new religion so its still got some “growing up” to do so to speak
@mori1bund
11 ай бұрын
@@JustAnotherAccount8 Exactly! 300 years ago Europe had the Age of Enlightenment, which tamed religion and led to the industrial era. That changed everything for the western world. But the islamic world never had that.
@mori1bund
11 ай бұрын
@@D19DMO128D I completely agree! And this is even just one example why the EU won't and can't let join Turkey.
@mehmetkayraozer9164
11 ай бұрын
You really don't know anything about Turkey do you?
I feel this is the 5th time this week TLDR has made the exact same video about the exact same topic 😂
TLDR News drinking game: Drink every time "any time soon" is said in a video.
Doesn't Turkey have to ratify the UNCLOS in order to join the EU? Additionally, Turkey has to explain why it still occupies part of another EU member state (Cyprus) until this day in order to join.
@prof5282
11 ай бұрын
They have. There was an agreement between Greece and Turkey that the island would not be owned by either. This was true until a Pro-greek government overthrew the existing government in a coup which then started displacing and killing Turks. And in the name of liberation, Turkey invaded Cyprus to keep its population safe and maintain order in its own half. Turkey will never let go of Cyprus as it will never trust the greeks again.
@hamlet557
11 ай бұрын
@@prof5282 Ok, then. Turkey doesn't join EU this century. Problem solved.
@epschas
11 ай бұрын
@prof5282 The Turkish invasion came into two phases. The coup ended right after the first phase. Attila II was unjustified just like the illegal occupation of Cyprus that lasts until today. Obviously nowadays there is no threat of another Pro-Greek coup taking place but still Turkey is in the island.
@epschas
11 ай бұрын
@prof5282 Anyway no matter your stance in that, Turkey has to leave Cyprus and ratify the UNCLOS in order to join the EU.
@uqs57bju
11 ай бұрын
@@prof5282 Then why is it trying to join an entity with Greece in it?
Let's hope not. The EU is already a mess and Turkey would only make it worse.
@aminuaidara8601
11 ай бұрын
This is what happens if u believe u can destroy some country's an lives a beautiful life's in your country's this mess in the EU it's the beginning......... I 100% believe Turkey doesn't need the EU....
@Emilechen
11 ай бұрын
EU is already too big, basically a Western Europe/Germano-Latin Union is perfect, than includes some Catholic and Orthodox Slavics is barley ok, but extend to Turkey? is it necessary? it is not NATO,
@the-based-jew6872
11 ай бұрын
EU keeps importing low quality people. They are doing it to themselves. But adding turkey would make things even worse.
there is a problem with the map you show in minute 4:47, you call point to Iraq calling it Syria
Turkey as the country is 90% is located in Asian continent . The country's capital city is in Asian side of the country. I find it difficult to recognise his country as a European country. !? The recognition of Turkey to be a member of NATO DEFENCE ALLIANCE or to become member of European country us purely based on political interests of superpowers within the north Atlantic regions and not on any other logical grind !!!!???
@Atiglxdfr
6 ай бұрын
Avrupa coğrafi olarak bir kıta değildir, araştır istersen😂
"probably no" is too soft, the answer is "100% no". That said, it doesn't mean Turkey can't, maybe, theoretically, get a sort of Switzerland or Norway relationship with the EU where it's tightly integrated (although even there, I highly doubt Turkey will ever enter Schengen) but still outside the EU.
@ab-ym3bf
11 ай бұрын
Not even Switzerland will get a new Switzerland deal, as has been made clear when the UK came up with the same fantasy. As for "Norway", you refer to Efta, and what goes for the UK will probably go for Turkey as well: current members will not want a large, disturbing nation in their club upsetting the balance.
As a European citizen. I say no to Turkey 🚫🇹🇷 to EU 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺 its kinda in Europe but culturally not European nor with beliefs & tradition & mentality. Sorry. A partner yes but a member state no.
@BilboBaggins236
11 ай бұрын
Turkiye has played an imortant role in European history, and has actually been culturally closer to Europe than you might think. They are a muslim majority country, but have since Ataturk been more secular than many European states even are. I think they would've made a great addition, if they would've stayed on the course they were on before Erdogan went a bit crazy.
@Aralakh919
11 ай бұрын
@@BilboBaggins236 Sure, then why is Turkey sponsoring and pushing the building of Mosques all around Europe? Didn't Turkey also look to be more Ottoman now then it did 50 years ago, almost all of the power lies within Erdogan. Culturally closer to Europe is as funny as it sounds, what has Turkey had in terms of culture that is even close to European?
@bahamabartokmajestikassbis5240
11 ай бұрын
@@BilboBaggins236 they destoyed byzantine and took over everything xD nothing there was build by them
@iamlegq
11 ай бұрын
@@BilboBaggins236 Turkey is not a European country in any way shape or form. For that reason there's literally huge consensus across age, nationality and political beliefe on NOT allowing Turkey in. Not to mention it is absolutely imposible to grasp even the idea that a relatively poor and majority muslim country would be the largest country in the Union with the largest voting power in the Europarliament (which is defined by population size). Turkey would have a bigger voting and deciding power over Germany, France, literally would turn it into the leader of the EU. Impossible. Oh also, Turkey is literally illegaly occupying half of Cyprus. Do you think they would ever let you guys in?
@loneprimate
11 ай бұрын
Give Canada and the US two square miles of European territory (not much less than Turkey has) and they'd be much better fits as EU members than Turkey.
As a Turkish citizen, with Erdogan and his autocratic regime, I find it an impossibility under normal circumstances. However, if Russia accelerates their hostility towards the west, and the war escalates, Turkey is likely to play a critical role in the upcoming war in Europe. I don't think Europe wants to see Turkey taking sides with Russia. And as we all know, most politicians are spineless, including the EU politicians. So who knows. The future really is unpredictable.
04:37 the map shows Turkish-iranian border not the Turkish-syrian one's
Turkey needs to settle it's dispute with Cyprus first.
@akwamarsunzal
11 ай бұрын
The dispute is actually with Greece, the ones who started hostilities in Cyprus in the first place.
@JimmyM1975
11 ай бұрын
I actually wondered how Cyprus managed to join the EU with border disputes.
@VW-Gaming18
11 ай бұрын
@@akwamarsunzalnah cyprus was majority greek, so what was wrong with joining greece if the majority wants that
@mertince2310
11 ай бұрын
Thats a sacrifice we are willing to make
@Joe--
11 ай бұрын
@@akwamarsunzal Not at all; Cypress is an EU member state and Turkey is currently occupying the northern part of it.
Turkey has actually 97 million turks (15 million turks in Europe already)
@t.c.4321
11 ай бұрын
No it doesnt, the population is 84 million, and that includes Kurds, Circassians, and other ethnic minorities
@ozgur7691
11 ай бұрын
@@t.c.4321 and 10 million refugees :)
@purplehaze8557
11 ай бұрын
15 million too many...
4:37 Pop quiz: What's wrong with this map? It's pretty major.
Had to read the title twice, first time I read as "Cold Turkey actually join the EU"
Not when they are illegally occupying almost half of the land of an EU member state (Cyprus). Any attempt would be vetoed.
@ataytaygaraev4298
11 ай бұрын
Turkey definitely won't allow to kill and abuse turkish people of Cyprus, that's why Cyprus crisis happened
@kanimou
11 ай бұрын
north cyprus is not a part of turkey. it is indepedent. do your research
@Kemalist0008
11 ай бұрын
So... Killing citizens and driving them to the sea ILLEGALLY Just for living is Legal? This is how the European Mind works?
@universalspaceexpeditioner8259
11 ай бұрын
@@kanimou It's not a country, it's occupied by Turkey. 99% of the army there are Turks from Turkey. That's an occupation. On the other hand 99% of the army of the Republic of Cyprus are Cypriots from Cyprus and only 1% are from Greece.
@davideyt1242
11 ай бұрын
even after they remove their illegal war crime and occupation of a part of Cyprus.. why would a country that does not align with European culture or values (Turkey) be admitted to the EU?
It won't happen simply because Cyprus and Greece have a veto,
@emre05x
11 ай бұрын
So their veto is ok when it concerns Turkey joining, but when Turkey wants to use its veto right to keep Sweden out, it becomes an issue?
@buddy1155
11 ай бұрын
To be honest, I can't imagine any country will vote for the accession of 🦃Even Hungary will make an exception and vote with the rest.
@sttuuu3442
11 ай бұрын
@@emre05x Go cry. Turkeybird will never be an EU member and enjoy free travel and high wages. Go join your turkic union or something lol
@XOXO-if8yo
11 ай бұрын
@@emre05x Isl@mist bΣggαr stay away
@purplehaze8557
11 ай бұрын
That is just one reason. There are plenty more.
Good 👍
at 4:39 on the map is shown Iran and not Siria as said.
Not a chance. Cyprus will never let them in.
@mori1bund
11 ай бұрын
Cyprus? I garantee you that there's no EU country that would let them in. A vast majority of EU citizens is against it. And for good reasons.
@loneprimate
11 ай бұрын
@@mori1bund I don't doubt it. I think they really stepped out of the plane without a parachute when they voted to leave. You really don't come back from that.
@the-based-jew6872
11 ай бұрын
@@mori1bund the only way turkey is being let in is if turkey is colonised (like turkey colonised Cyprus) and we're merged in through that. But EU would do that would they? 😉
@Saalk13
11 ай бұрын
@@the-based-jew6872 learn history the uk still has military bases in cyprus and they are not getting the blame? also greece try to make cyprus a puppet state before so i don't get your point here.
@Kuzey__
11 ай бұрын
why the hell Turkey needs english puppet cyprus if they even got eu standards one day
5:35 Small mistake "The US and Sweden fully support Turkiye's ascension into NATO." Obviously that was suppose to be EU rather than NATO since they are already in NATO.
@ysbrandd
11 ай бұрын
The US has nothing to say about the EU tho, they cannot support it in anyway shape or form they got no vote...
If it does, all the other members will leave.
Nice Türkiye- Syria map u have there at 4:38
No way. They already wish Hungry would be out. There’s no way in hell they let another autocratic country in.
@antoninodarioconti6347
11 ай бұрын
*and poland
Yeah.. Just no way. I mean closer relations are definitely something that would be really good. But EU has already problem child. But definitely one. We don't need problem adult that can cause a lot more damage. Nobody knows what happens in future, but as is, it just isn't possible. I do think closer relations could be pretty good, but Schengen and membership are something that is just ridiculous to even think about at the moment. EU is probably going to be more careful anyways due to few problematic cases we have seen.
As a Turkish guy, let me tell you, folks in this place just don't seem to give a hoot about joining the European Union. Our president (ugh, not my cup of tea) was messing around with Sweden, playing this NATO game, but deep down, we all knew he'd end up letting Sweden into NATO. It was like he just wanted to have a little fun or something. So, why are you all taking it so seriously, huh? >D
One small detail you said Syria but showed Iran at 4:39
bro you named iran as syria on your graphics 4:37
Not anytime soon. A lot of things need to change in Turkey and that takes a lot of time. And the fact that Erdogan won last elections and he's going to be around at least until 2028 doesn't speed up things at all
@ataytaygaraev4298
11 ай бұрын
"A lot of things need to change in Turkey" you mean they need to switch from Islam to Christianity I guess 🤣
@ffuyu
11 ай бұрын
@@ataytaygaraev4298anything other than Islam should be fine. the country itself doesn’t have a religion but around half of the population aren’t muslims. for those who’d ask me what’s wrong with Islam, you can see the state of Islamic countries yourself and know that it’s a religion of hate and ignorance and will destroy everything nice. Turkey’s religion statistics always show 99% Islam since they basically assign it on birth by default and people don’t bother changing it.
@hamlet557
11 ай бұрын
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Ok, you don't want to join EU. problem solved
@davideyt1242
11 ай бұрын
Turkey is not a European country, most people looking at a paper map think the illusion of proximity makes them "European", it's absolutely false... Turks are not European, not even in their culture. so regardless of what needs to be changed, they do not belong in the EU. and anyway: you can not make a shark turn into a fish, as a matter fact. it's really pissing a lot of citizens of EU bloc members off, that those corrupt shit bags in the EU don't even care for what the actual citizens of the bloc want, when they talk about their decisions. those are the citizens who at the end finance this entire shit show and the fat salaries of those useless EU officials
@ataytaygaraev4298
11 ай бұрын
@@hamlet557 For Europeans like you Islam is a problem I guess
Only 3% of Turkey land is located in europe & 10% of its population lives in that area!
As European citizen I hope they don’t , they are not European and they do not share our culture
@ArdaM373
11 ай бұрын
İnsan yemiyoruz :D
@zackgravity7284
11 ай бұрын
not to mention all the refugees that would flood the schengen zone
@granockss9548
11 ай бұрын
They are more European than you think. But I would also say, first the autocratic government of erdogan must change. Forget not that they intermixture with Greeks and others for like thousands years, and therefore if Ukraine can join EU, why not Turkey
@abbofun9022
11 ай бұрын
@@ArdaM373afraid the criteria for joining are slightly more stringent 😎
@ataytaygaraev4298
11 ай бұрын
You wanna say that for example Finland, Romania, Portugal share same culture?🤣
Couldn´t even happen or better said, Germany and France wouldn´t allow it, because in the EU : The number of MEPs per country depends on the population of each country. So turkey would have the largest population and by that the most MEPs, so they would have too much power..
@HedgehogZone
11 ай бұрын
And germany is extremly underrepressented also!
@user-vb6df4sd8d
11 ай бұрын
@@HedgehogZonewhy would nazi’s be represented in the eu??
@belstar1128
11 ай бұрын
Just imagine all these conservative Muslim meps dealing with german green peace hippies what a mess.
@hamlet557
11 ай бұрын
@@user-vb6df4sd8d Because Germans aren't nazis. They are one of the most respectful nations of EU.
Its more of an answer that most of the e.u doesnt want turkey as a member period.
In 4:38 of your video you showed the Turkish - Iranian border not the Turkish - Syrian border
Don’t have to watch this video, because the answer is NO. 😂 They first have to leave Cyprus.
Gladly, Greece and Cyprus would 100% veto turkey. Never the EU privileges to a non-european country.
@TheIceCream1
11 ай бұрын
Turkey is a European Country. Did you skip Geography lessons?
@rutgerb
11 ай бұрын
@@TheIceCream1😂😂
@gabrieledannunzioquellodif8355
11 ай бұрын
@@TheIceCream1 Turkey Is *not* european
@nintendokings
11 ай бұрын
@@TheIceCream1where did you have your geography lessons? Turkey?
@frogge42
11 ай бұрын
@@nintendokings 10% of Turkey may be described as "European". Nothing east of Constantinope though. :P
4:37 that is Iran mate
4:38 That green area is not Syria but Iran. 😅
It’s too big, it has a bigger population than Germany so it would get too much political power for a newcomer, imagine the EU but with Turkey taking Germany’s place as the leader, it wouldn’t last a decade
@iamlegq
11 ай бұрын
Exactly, a relatively poor and majority muslim country as the practical leader of the EU? The union would collapse in less than a decade.
@nazdhillon994
11 ай бұрын
turkey's population is smaller than germany
@prof5282
11 ай бұрын
@@iamlegq What's religion got to do with this? Stop inciting fear for no reason. Y'all hate Turkey so much but rely on them at the same time. Y'all don't realise how important Turkey is in NATO and the benefits they bring. You see Turkey as undemocratic but you want their protection.
@Koczu0
11 ай бұрын
Good power would be more balanced
@Dave1507
11 ай бұрын
@@prof5282 NATO is not the same as EU. They don't bring the same benefits to EU as they have brought to NATO, but quite the opposite. Also Turkey does not meet the conditions it needs to even be considered into EU.