Bring Hungary to its knees? I don’t think Hungary is in to that

@blackgold3584

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA NICE ONE.

@szexmaster

2 жыл бұрын

The Netherlands kneeled in the Puskás Stadion...

@MrDadyD

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the amount of porn coming out of the country I would say you are wrong

@theAEDan

2 жыл бұрын

@@glasjanus they’re cowards because they don’t want to get on their knees for other men? So you’re a “brave” boy then? 😂

@abraxadabra4224

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

If only Britain knew it was this easy

@Mithras-jp4jp

2 жыл бұрын

We don't want to end up in...this position, best to leave slow.

@ddiesel1836

2 жыл бұрын

i see what you did there 😆😆😆

@bbenjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, good one!

@ThePlayer920

2 жыл бұрын

You're underestimating how gay the British people are

@kaworunagisa4009

2 жыл бұрын

This makes me wonder... Isn't that at least part of the reason for the TERF uprising?

"Kicked out of Europe" What do you think they're gonna do? Move the whole country to Asia?

@thegoodoldrommel1417

2 жыл бұрын

We would be very happy if our government would go there and let us here :D

@aaaaaa2206

2 жыл бұрын

In a couple of hundred thousands of years it might happen. Who knows how the continents will move geologically.

@cherrycoyote55

2 жыл бұрын

I think Australia might be lonely.

@user-kk5vh1zb5u

2 жыл бұрын

in fact, Hungarians came from the Asian region to Europe, they have a language more related to Turkey than to the rest of Europe

@muhammadfatihakramsalim5015

2 жыл бұрын

*Dum Daaaaaa*

“My goal is to bring Hungary to its knees” that’s sounds like a war threat and I don’t know if I should be worried or not

@yodagamer7744

2 жыл бұрын

well the NATO is about helping other allies if a country attacks them, so even if war breaks out, other countries should be on our side

@OzixiThrill

2 жыл бұрын

@@yodagamer7744 It's somewhat complicated. NATO doesn't necessarily have a clause for members attacking each other, if I recall correctly.

@yodagamer7744

2 жыл бұрын

@@OzixiThrill as far as i know it goes like this: if a nato country attacks a non nato country then the rest of nato would help the nato country, and the other way around, but if a nato country attacks another nato country then the one getting attacked is the one getting the help. Edit: i wrote this really late and didn't notice the mistakes, sorry for the confusion, and i learned it in 6th so i might still be wrong so feel free to correct me

@Bobbusinessgaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@yodagamer7744?????????

@sjorspaauw4259

2 жыл бұрын

@@yodagamer7744 the netherlands is in NATO

the thumbnail says "could hungary be kicked out of europe" i feel like it isn't moving continents any time soon

@seanfinch7856

3 жыл бұрын

Belgium just picks up Hungary and throws it into Asia: GO BACK TO FIGHTING CHINA HUNS!

@mrtortoise3766

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr I don’t get that people in the uk say they aren’t part of Europe rather then the EU

@seanfinch7856

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrtortoise3766 What you don't know about the 8th continent, The British Isles, Next you'll tell me New Zealand isn't a continent either! 😄

@mrtortoise3766

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanfinch7856 is every island a continent?

@seanfinch7856

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrtortoise3766 Isn't it obvious?

You have to admit, they are doing a better job at leaving the EU then the UK

@anelbegic2780

2 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when half the country votes one way but the leaders voted the other or are tepid as to not disturb their place in society. It was actually the most frustrating part about the UK leaving the EU, the media didn't help either but that's a given because it is largely controlled by liberal values at the expense of conservative ones (in other words, there is no balance in the coverage of the news on social or mainstream news).

@CarlTSpeak

2 жыл бұрын

@@anelbegic2780 I have no idea what planet you are living on but hope the view is nice there.

@anelbegic2780

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarlTSpeak Hey, look at that. A commemter that has a grievence with what I said but doesn't tell me what the issue is. How neat.

@humanperson6495

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no, politics!!! I think there is going to be an argument in the replies...

@Ernest-From-England

2 жыл бұрын

Croissant

"We will become very, very angry with you, and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are." - puppet Hans Blix, 2004

@1mol831

2 жыл бұрын

Letter sent haha.

@pamelafranklin3452

2 жыл бұрын

Hungry is a small country they better chill

@themadfarmer5207

Жыл бұрын

Vee haff our vays to make you do vat vee vant you to do

This whole thing should dispel any myths thay the EU is just an economic union.

@runakovacs4759

2 жыл бұрын

I wish it was more than an economic union. We need to do something about orbán, or give LGBT people in Hungary refugee status and let us run the fuck away from this retarded country.

@willjames1712

2 жыл бұрын

@@runakovacs4759 careful what you wish for. The EU know how to look nice and cuddly. That doesn't make them nice and cuddly.

@runakovacs4759

2 жыл бұрын

@@willjames1712 They're better than being in a country that's puppeted by putin, and said puppet does his damnedest to ally with Erdogan and Xi Yianpig.

@willjames1712

2 жыл бұрын

@@runakovacs4759 Orban is being clever by remaining friendly with Russia and China. Playing different sides is a sound foreign policy for a small country like Hungary. But no, you are wrong though, the most powerful influence is clearly Germany. Germany dominates the industrial supply chains in Hungary.

@runakovacs4759

2 жыл бұрын

@@willjames1712 And yet, Hungary continues to torture its LGBT populace and steal academic independence.

No one is asking why US Gov has access to Hungary's Peru ambassador's computer files?

@coderentity2079

3 жыл бұрын

They have access to Merkel's files so why not?

@davidkenkadze115

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you... came to the comment section to find this comment

@AndreiGromit

3 жыл бұрын

The USA may have been monitoring this illegal activity because, unlike Hungary, the USA have strong laws on paedophilia and child sex trafficking (as mentioned on many American TV crime procedurals) and they must monitor all these illegal activities, I would imagine in all the USA's geographic areas of influence and interest.

@zsomi5968

3 жыл бұрын

To my knowledge they tracked it back through the dark web, maybe through a known site and unfortunately alerted the hungarians before the peruvians, because Hungary brought back him undercover and fined him for a ridiculously low amount, twice the average salary, 1/5th of his salary

@roberthomoki7351

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiGromit and epstein didn't killed himself? right??

I'm from Hungary, and this is the best summary I've read so far, it's far better than the ones in Hungarian. I'm really glad you could stay neutral and objective, this video has contained every crucial information concisely.

@raul-km6mq

3 жыл бұрын

u have a spanic name lol

@RamblinPhoenix

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I like TL;DR. As an American this channel really helped me understand Brexit and it had the best summery of the "GameStop stock bubble" I found when that happend.

@gtworldzhd4137

3 жыл бұрын

@@raul-km6mq No it’s Hungarian

@axelfiraxa

3 жыл бұрын

@@raul-km6mq it Varga stands for "shoemaker"

@SOMEONE-cd9wf

3 жыл бұрын

@@raul-km6mq No he doesn't. Its Hungarian.

Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union is a procedure in the treaties of the European Union (EU) to suspend certain rights from a member state. While rights can be suspended, there is no mechanism to expel a member. So the answer to " Can Hungary get kicked out of EU ?" Is no

@ezzovonachalm7534

2 жыл бұрын

The converse may become true the day all of £B...Q will be exported on an island in the middle of the antarctic where they will be allowed to exercice the only thing they are able to do.

@acorgiwithacrown467

2 жыл бұрын

@@ezzovonachalm7534 Wtf is £B...Q?

@annigard8

Жыл бұрын

@@acorgiwithacrown467 Lesbian, bisexuality, gay, trans, Queer. Is that was what you were asking?

@acorgiwithacrown467

Жыл бұрын

@@annigard8 Why didn't they just say that then?

@thepinebros.1873

Жыл бұрын

​@@acorgiwithacrown467 Because abbreviation are shorter to type while expressing the same meaning

This is what Hungarians voted for.

@robertbrown374

2 жыл бұрын

It's called democracy

@quasii7

2 жыл бұрын

Only 49%

@beachday8917

2 жыл бұрын

@@quasii7 That’s almost 50% of the country and keep in mind there’s multiple parties

@molnarandras6556

2 жыл бұрын

@@quasii7 Hungary has a two level election system. First level is the local election: county mayors(representative of the county as a whole) and mayors (representative of individual towns, cityes...), you vote for party representatives. Second level is where you vote for the head of the country (Orban, Márkizai...) The final precentage of the votes comes from a combination of this two. So while the Fidesz only gained 49% in one of this, they held overwelming majority in the other. Funny fact is that this system currently favors the opposition partys more than the ruling one. Fidesz would likely hold around 80% or more of the votes without it. And before anyone assumes I'm a fanatical Fidesz supporter, I'm not. I will vote for the independent local party in the localised election and will likely vote for small, but new party in the countrywide one.

@overloader7900

2 жыл бұрын

And voted again now

The larger EU grows, it will be harder to keep this from happening again. If there are more countries, it is easier to find a mate to say 'no' for any matters. Edit: Don't click the replies section for your own good

@emib6599

3 жыл бұрын

27 members and you need always an unanimity vote 🗳 It essential to establish the qualified majority systems with so much members

@thereita1052

3 жыл бұрын

Equality shouldnt be a matter to say no.

@seanchernov7178

3 жыл бұрын

The law that every state need to agree should change to some kind majority, maybe 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 4

@billvilmezis5968

3 жыл бұрын

No matter what you think about the underlying issues, the real problem here is this: Hungary joined a trade union. They did not join the United States of Europe, where the federal 'government' gets to dictate social policy to their states. And by this comment i am not taking a stance but pointing out a detail (a small edit under new info that i recieved i no longer agree with my previous statement )

@Daisy_3011

3 жыл бұрын

It's pretty much like "Liberum Veto" in Poland in 17-18th century that lead to its partitions and disappearing from the maps for 123 years. Seems like whoever made these EU laws haven't studied history.

"I'll bring Hungary to it's knees on this" well he's doing Orban propaganda for him with that one sentence

@roccaraso1771

3 жыл бұрын

i was thinking exactly the same, i can already "see" the newspaper titles: Victor Orban fights against eu infringment in internal matters, the Eu wants to "Bring Hungary To Its Knees", this pm probably single handedly gave hungarian pro governament media all the headlines they could need

@deathZor42

3 жыл бұрын

@@roccaraso1771 he controls the media in his country anyway so that doesn't matter and Rutte's comment was likely more for a Dutch audience, there feeling within the dutch public is that the EU isn't doing enough to pressure them, so he has his domestic audience to think about because politics.

@HoukaiBG

3 жыл бұрын

@@deathZor42 What was this thing about democracy, FREEDOM and self-determination? I guess, EU only values these as long as everyone align with them. But as soon someone decides to say now, the western part of the EU goes full fascist mode. If that is how the west will interpret freedom, then they can take it and shove it somewhere where sun does not shine. After all, they seem to be quite used to shoving things up there.

@yaozena5329

3 жыл бұрын

@@HoukaiBG You‘re saying FREEDOM, but you forget your fellow lgbt hungarians who are now getting oppressed by your government

@attilafagellodidio6226

3 жыл бұрын

@@HoukaiBG you are right, every country has the right to self-determinate itself. But Hungary has also agreed to share some values joining the EU and, as they say, "pacta sunt servanda". If they do not respects the pacts they should just leave. Again Hungary can do what it wants because it has self-determination rights , but it must bare the consequences of its actions.

Hungary can do whatever they want. Why would they listen to Mark Rutte or Macron. Who are they to decide what law should changed or not. Are they the leaders of Hungary? No. I fully support Hungary and Poland on this one.

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

lmao, Hungary signed international treaty so yeah they can't do whatever they want, or they have to leave the EU. simple as it is. Hungary is not special snowflake, either play by the same rules (that you agreed to) or get out

The children don't have to learn this in schools. What is happening to this world

@simonelagreca9233

2 жыл бұрын

Why not? Don't you think it could help gay kids to accept themselves?

@redacted7060

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonelagreca9233 kids are not born gay. It's like saying that some kids are born as communist

@simonelagreca9233

2 жыл бұрын

@@redacted7060 No. Communism is an ideology, homosexuality is a sexual orientation and genes may play a part in determiming it

Change the thumbnail image from "kicked out of Europe?" to "kicked out of EU?". Europe isn´t EU. There are a lot of European countries aren´t in the EU. You can´t be kicked out of Europe.

@amongussus4

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe drill at hungary's border and lift its continental shelt to a safer place a land without leftist and liberals aliong with muslim immigrant then i would love to visit the place. I hate how liberals are going woke nowadaya i am not agains ges but i am against child indoctrination, people with brain are are descriminated in a woke society,.

@Asa...S

3 жыл бұрын

@@amongussus4 How is this relevant to my comment about the THUMBNAIL? I just don´t get when people reply something that has absolutely nothing to do with the original comment, instead of writing a comment of their own. Why?

@sergiu8174

2 жыл бұрын

@@Asa...S commie

@amongussus4

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergiu8174 true

@amongussus4

2 жыл бұрын

@@Asa...S ur gangsta until they add p I need to say I am not against them but I am agains 7yr olds who have only lv 70 testosterone to decide thier sexuality is kinda stupid Average man has like 400 to 1200 lv testosterone, ges have less and les have more it is not thier fault but if u want to make 7 yr olds incapable of any decisions to decide thier future ur an evil person, why should kids decide thier fate when they are incapable of doing so??? No hate to anybody U need to know the reality of the law before u comment

No obnoxious intro, no split screen, straight to the point content. Good job TLDR.

@oscarosullivan4513

3 жыл бұрын

The intro was good

@fitwithartin

3 жыл бұрын

*straight

@LathropLdST

3 жыл бұрын

Afraid to write 'straight'? Or is Orban under your bed?

@JackWiizard

3 жыл бұрын

@@LathropLdST haha nope

@koobyn

2 жыл бұрын

split screen?

National Sovereignty is the supreme right. No country, or group of countries, has a right to dictate *internal* policy to another country.

@kele614

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

@errormatrix4159

2 жыл бұрын

If it pays,sure it has.

@user-mc8ow8me9o

2 жыл бұрын

Ist 4th reich not ue

@errormatrix4159

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-mc8ow8me9o Western Europe is paying, so they command what future is the EU,if Poland and Hungary don´t like it,leave.

@Smail345

2 жыл бұрын

@@errormatrix4159 + bulgaria and greece we would live to leave

FIRST ENGLAND THEN HUNGARY AND POLAND ARE WE STARTING TO SEE A PATTERN HERE?

@kovacsakos8893

2 жыл бұрын

This didn't happen in England or the UK

@MeepChangeling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think I do. Okay so, here's what you do. Assuming you've got a US keyboard layout, look to your home row. The one with "asdf". Now, just left of the "a" key, you'll find a wide key labeled "Caps Lock". Press it. You should now be typing like a person who will be taken seriously instead of a screaming maniac who gets tuned out. You're welcome, friend.

@declancurry4479

2 жыл бұрын

@@kovacsakos8893 England has lost any culture it had.

@fxshyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@MeepChangeling LMFAO

"kicked out of europe?" You have to learn a difference between eu and europe....

@n34t

2 жыл бұрын

EU can always pretend it’s Europe, like ‘ugh, from now on I identify as Europe. I prefer theuy, theum pronounces’. Respect!

@blackcat80yearsago96

2 жыл бұрын

@Maxime Laville Did your mommy grounded you or smth?

@sleep8774

2 жыл бұрын

@Maxime Laville well... us citizens refer to themselves as Americans, aren't they...

@1mol831

2 жыл бұрын

@@n34t Russia is Europe as well.

@MMRegrin

2 жыл бұрын

​@@n34t EU is pretending a lot. Even democracy.

I like the new "most of the promotion at the end" style of videos. Makes getting into the meat of the video a bit quicker.

@0xCAFEF00D

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much difference it makes in effectiveness. We should all take an extra think about how we value TLDR when changes like these are made.

@ForckySpoon

3 жыл бұрын

Just use the sponsorblock addon. Brilliant little thing.

@trollinape2697

2 жыл бұрын

@@ForckySpoon cap or not very good joke

I think it’s marvellous there’s so many magyars can speak English so well that they can carry on such an intense emotional dialogue. Who cares if there are any linguistic mistakes. Kudos to you all and keep it up.

@Aztec339

2 жыл бұрын

Hunkies just love to argue….about anything…anytime. Especially after many shots of Unicum and Pailinka! As booze and fists every Saturday night.

Stand strong Hungary. Love from Miami.

@mrandorex7495

2 жыл бұрын

We will bruv

@moldy_banana5015

2 жыл бұрын

@Florida Stuff ft Myers

@standowner6979

2 жыл бұрын

Against what?

@mrandorex7495

2 жыл бұрын

@@standowner6979 EU, corruption, fucking rainbows. You know things like that.

@interslavia

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck Hungary right now, hope it gets better, if it doesn't, i hate it -a Hungarian

the EU says to Hungary "if you have an anti-gay law we won't let you be in the European Union" Hungary answers "is that a threat or a promise? "

@anelbegic2780

2 жыл бұрын

Completely tone deaf on the EU's part there honestly. Hungary is expressing conservative values along with EU skepticism and the first thing the EU does is acknowledge the first while threatening to kick them out a union that they are skeptical of (thereby increasing their skepticism)...GENIUS.

@levipb1403

2 жыл бұрын

@@moonstriker7350 sure actually the fact that you cannot get married or adopt a child and form a family isn't against gays. Where did you went to college? Harvard?

@moonstriker7350

2 жыл бұрын

@@levipb1403 Where is that in this law we'r talking about? Quote it, thanks.

@levipb1403

2 жыл бұрын

@@moonstriker7350 oh so if I am a man and I'm gay, I can get married to another man in Hungary? And if we want to form a family and adopt a child, we can do that too? I must have missed something...

@moonstriker7350

2 жыл бұрын

@@levipb1403 Answer the question, don't sidetrack.

Much prefer the new layout. Props!

@davianthule2035

3 жыл бұрын

Tfw someone I know gets a bunch of likes randomly,

@Gallalad1

3 жыл бұрын

@@davianthule2035 who're you?

@davianthule2035

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gallalad1 a fellow Irish man, we've been to Der places

"we are very angry, and we will write a letter to you so you know how angry we are at you"

EU should be reformed into a purely economic alliance

@fanfeck2844

2 жыл бұрын

You mean like it originally was. The trouble is when you give suits a bit of power, they’ll always want more. Put any suits in a room and they’ll come up with constant limitless bureaucracy

@klausjack8731

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@guywiththepanzerhausf6478

2 жыл бұрын

It originally was

@1Maklak

2 жыл бұрын

Poland is working on that by putting it's own law over EU law.

@fanfeck2844

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Maklak good luck with that, but I don’t think they’ll be able to hold out long

hungary and poland, friends since middle ages

@sallmandar1027

2 жыл бұрын

*ww2*

@talisdorman.9796

2 жыл бұрын

Burgers in Hungary is quite quite.

@warrior303hun9

2 жыл бұрын

@@sallmandar1027 lol no

@nicknem174

2 жыл бұрын

@@sallmandar1027 for more than a millenia. We even had common kings.

@jonbalderh

2 жыл бұрын

Schemers would be a better word for this kind of partnership

tldr: ''One EU leader advocate to kick outHungry'' Me: I'm wondering if..... TLdr: ''Mark Rutte, Dutch MP'' Me: of course

@Snowshowslow

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, true... Although he's not just a Dutch MP, he's the Dutch PM.

@barrygillis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Snowshowslow Ah yes, our racist "leader" who still seems to like the ideas of herd immunity.

@poltergeist7621

3 жыл бұрын

The EU is now a supranational macro-State which goal is to delete the sovereignty of the countries building a macro-State, with the same ideology and politics, violating the democratic willing of the citizens of each country. The UE wanted to make Poland and Hungary socially posmodernist in order to get the COVID funds. THAT'S HORRIBLE. WTF is the EU to change a whole country? That breaks the Liberty of the States. That's too totalitarianism, like the fascism or communism. The Statism will destroy the EU.

@Snowshowslow

3 жыл бұрын

@@barrygillis I didn't make any claims about his value(s), just his position. I don't want to make any claims about that ;-)

@C0DERedEdits

3 жыл бұрын

@@poltergeist7621 The EU is a union to countries that align with it's core values mentioned in the video, so of course it is expecting Poland and Hungary to... *align with it's core values* when they're in it. Saying the EU just wants to "delete the sovereignty of the countries" is just fear mongering and frankly ridiculous, it's all democratic and Hungary and all it's culture does not get "deleted" because the EU doesn't accept anti-equality and anti-rights laws.

Poland and hungry got pressure when they passed their immigration laws. They don’t get that pressure anymore..

@petermieth7952

2 жыл бұрын

Its Hungary not hungry...

@yourefunny487

2 жыл бұрын

@@petermieth7952 then they can leave eu

@endless193

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary*

@Marekmarekmarekmarek

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary* thank you for the intelligent correction

@kovacsakos8893

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary 🇭🇺 not hungry 😂

The problem is, that the EU politicians are hypocratic as fuck. Human rights only matter in these situations? Human rights don't matter when Hungarians are oppressed in Romania and Slovakia? No EU politican ever said that what Slovakia, Romania and other non-EU member states like Ukraine and Serbia is doing in case of the Hungarians living there isn't right. Where are those so-called human rights then?

if Germany or France started doing this, no one could do anything since they are pretty much holding the EU together economicaly, so without them the Union just destroys itself.

@fritz2622

3 жыл бұрын

Germany and frace cannot do this , bc they are western and hungary and poland are from eastern europe

3 жыл бұрын

@@fritz2622 Both Hungary and Poland are Central European countries and so is Germany

@fritz2622

3 жыл бұрын

@ ok then , the nationa spirit the political situation after 1990 is western in germany and eastern in hungary and poland

@ColinTherac117

3 жыл бұрын

@@fritz2622 There is nothing about being western that forces France or Germany from changing their cultural norms. In 100 years, it is entirely possible for the people from either place to change their desired norms 180 from what they are now. After all, Imperialism and race theory was all the rage 110 years ago.

@fritz2622

3 жыл бұрын

@@ColinTherac117 ofc but im saying they ve been like this for a long time and not gonna change soon

EU: Your kicked out! Hungary: a damn shame, I’ll just go have a chat with Russia then, he seems pretty chill. EU: How could Russia do this!?

@widjiro

2 жыл бұрын

i think china has bigger chance

@n057828

2 жыл бұрын

Russia still has control EU doesn’t!

@levipb1403

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha and then Russia will take resources and military bases on Hungary just like they do with Ukraine for a few cents XD

@n057828

2 жыл бұрын

Russia is the only country left in Europe that has power the rest have sold there souls!

@yury3548

2 жыл бұрын

GDP per capita Hungary: 16,700 USD Russia: 11,585 USD. Great country to make friends with. But be careful, Russia usually betray its friends like it was with Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Belarus, etc.

- Hungary is constantly defying us! - So they want to leave the EU like the Brits? - Worse. They want to reform it...

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

more like steal money and contribute nothing

@bbenjoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@justADeni We don't steal money. We get what is rightfully ours. In exchange for the EU funds we'd opened our markets infront of the western conglomerations.

@ryankramer8779

2 жыл бұрын

Reform it? You mean make it more bigoted? 😂

@bbenjoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryankramer8779 Nope, I mean fixing it, because right now it is a failure. EU enlargement is all but stopped. The economy is stagnating at best, while Chinese and American companies are taking over the market. The EU borders are under siege for years, and Brussels does squat on putting an end to it, except for taking in more and more migrants. But their most important job all day everyday is to endlessly debate and debate and debate, often about thrivial issues.

@pablodiazgamo5969

Жыл бұрын

@@bbenjoe Human rights are not trivial issues.

I would like the EU to publish a list of EU values. That would keep them changing from year to year.

@obrnenydrevokocur9344

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, it was always the same and quite short, only one sentence in fact, here it is : "Whatever we say they are".

@alexclarke6924

2 жыл бұрын

EU values = Western liberal views aka "political correctness"

@LiviuGelea

2 жыл бұрын

human dignity, equality and fundamental human rights. It's Ursula at @5:15

@ynakoliai5146

2 жыл бұрын

It's literally in the treaty of the ue. Article 2 The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities. These values are common to the Member States in a society in which pluralism, non-discrimination, tolerance, justice, solidarity and equality between women and men prevail.

@katajuliakeresztes3274

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexclarke6924 funny. liberal's main purpose is to get as much freedom as we can without hurting others'. Now we cannot say anything because of this pc. There is actually no acceptable word to describe a Black person.

Imagine if they started this thing called the "Gay war"

@tadoshka5170

2 жыл бұрын

Future Historian : Now, we shall learn about the European Gay War of 2030

@flyingbeast7902

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh the eu would get wrecked, a lot of countries support hungary including russia, they wont start anything, they didnt do anyting about ukraine they just verbally said no no to russia. Only the us had the balls to move ONE ship to warn russia

@klondor7432

2 жыл бұрын

@@flyingbeast7902 I don't even like the Eu, despite US not being it. They preach about freedom, but they are enforcing it on nearby European Countries.

@ak-77

2 жыл бұрын

@@flyingbeast7902 it was the UK not the US even

@flyingbeast7902

2 жыл бұрын

@@ak-77 nah the us moved two warships into the black sea

I wonder if Poland might be in the same situation...

@juniorcrusher2245

3 жыл бұрын

Poland contributes alot to the eu in trade with their massive industries. Poland isn't a small ex communist nation it once was. Kicking out Poland would be causing massive destruction in trade and probably make the entire border east of Germany leave too, all of V4 would leave honestly

@mistekfcio

3 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcrusher2245 idk what you're snorting but I want some too

@vitas75

3 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcrusher2245 lol. The only thing Poland contributes is cheap labour.

@slavikches6090

3 жыл бұрын

@@vitas75 All of you are peanuts in todays world, just the thing that u gathered as the EU makes u strong together. Each EU member except of Germany and France is useless and can be replaced.

@juniorcrusher2245

3 жыл бұрын

@@vitas75 not since 2004. poland has become middle class now. all the cheap shit comes from ukraine now

And where has the EU been all these decades while Hungarian minorities in what are now neighbouring countries of Hungary been subject to discrimination and years of human rights abuses based on their ethnicity and language?? Such hypocrisy

@sueelliott8085

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary wasn’t part of the EU when it was under communist rule.

@0okyo

2 жыл бұрын

@@sueelliott8085 It's happening even today. But noone cares.

@katajuliakeresztes3274

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is a political move at least partially against Orban.

@shlomoshlomo963

2 жыл бұрын

@@katajuliakeresztes3274 of course it is having countries like poland and hungary in the EU not only make them look horrible but also the population of those countries would get mad if their country won't at least react to this

@groberti

2 жыл бұрын

@@0okyo Yep! They don't even know Hungarian minorities exist in neighbouring countries. If you are a minority in Romania you are Romanian to them or if in Serbia you are Serbian. They cannot fathom the idea of it being otherwise x)

If this is what Hungary wants then so be it. Not every country in Europe has the same values.

@thebuffman5597

2 жыл бұрын

Actually as a hungarian none of us want these laws, they are enforcing it. Corruption is high here. I back then made a post that the laws they made were against the human rights, because it prohibits the freedom of speech.

@paulo7507

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebuffman5597 yeah but what do Hungarians want as a whole not just you

@hiiiimkat1

2 жыл бұрын

Its such a same that you're saying it is okay for a whole country to take away people's rights...

@Anonymous-rp1rs

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulo7507 Even if they didn't want gays, that isn't a good excuse, that's like saying Hitler should get away with what he did just because Germany had different values

@paulo7507

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-rp1rs what are we supposed to do then? invade the country and kill their leader and leave the country in ruins???? We do not live in a utopia and never will. Not all countries can be everything to all peoples, we do not all have the same values.

The EU did grow way too fast without figuring out what it really wants to be first

@MrBandholm

3 жыл бұрын

You have to remember the time... Back then we legit thought that nations would evolve the same way, as long as we just put money into it. It was the same time, where some people honestly thought they would win a war, just by saying that "you have democracy now". Under that idea, expanding was not a stupid thing to do... Now that we know that isn't the case, yeah it was too quick, but who would have known that a lot of eastern Europe suddenly would turn back towards autocracy? Particular after being rulled by the Soviets.

@_blank-_

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBandholm We should just give them back to Russia 🙄

@SchwertKruemel

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBandholm expanding the EU was probably the right thing to do back then. But with the knowledge from today it should have been sone in a different way

@Intreductor

3 жыл бұрын

@@_blank-_ I heard the USSR had a very progressive rhetoric under unity and equality. Maybe you should go too.

@MrBandholm

3 жыл бұрын

@Firm Buttocks Thing is, it is not "Tax payer's' Money" but I get your meaning. And no, the situation in the Eastern countries are far better now, than it was in the 90s... Yes it should have been better, and it is fustrating that things doesn't evolve quicker, but forgetting how bad it was, is not helpful. I traveled a lot in Eastern Europe in the 90s and early 00s, and frankly a lot of those countries were extremely poor. Things are way better now, but not as good as it could be.

If they didn't do it with Poland, they won't do it with Hungary.

@jamadir

3 жыл бұрын

It was a mistake to give them veto rights

@DerUngarischeKitsune

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamadir its democracy boy

@poltergeist7621

3 жыл бұрын

The EU is now a supranational macro-State which goal is to delete the sovereignty of the countries building a macro-State, with the same ideology and politics, violating the democratic willing of the citizens of each country. The UE wanted to make Poland and Hungary socially posmodernist in order to get the COVID funds. THAT'S HORRIBLE. WTF is the EU to change a whole country? That breaks the Liberty of the States. That's too totalitarianism, like the fascism or communism. The Statism will destroy the EU.

@jamadir

3 жыл бұрын

@Cornelius Sulla i'm conservative, They are blowing our tax money but don't follow the rules set for the European club.

@enkeltrick4715

3 жыл бұрын

@@poltergeist7621 You are a clown

It won't happen since poland will most probably veto

Dear EU! We bow to no man! Cheers! The Hungarians

@LucasMoraes-fu4qm

2 жыл бұрын

But will bow to a woman

@viktorjovanovity8886

2 жыл бұрын

@@LucasMoraes-fu4qm Only for love of our life.

Answer: No, because Poland has their back and vice-versa.

@darrenbutler9819

3 жыл бұрын

@Adam Radecki horrid brothers yes.

@christophermatthewsmith5106

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's changes in the next elections

@IBISZ15i18

3 жыл бұрын

Kick Poland too

@ashrudawski6031

3 жыл бұрын

Nah... that shtick is up. There is a strong chance Orban will be booted out of office in 2022. Poland already runs a minority government that might not make it till winter.

@theawkwardcurrypot9556

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashrudawski6031 more realistic

I actually like the new style of content already

@deviationblue

3 жыл бұрын

Hard same.

@samukiss-korbel7853

3 жыл бұрын

@@memetopia5130 1, You don't need it trust me 2, This comment was really out of context

@beepboopbeepp

3 жыл бұрын

Gaara of the desert

@damian4926

3 жыл бұрын

@@samukiss-korbel7853 1. What's wrong with their laws? 2. Yup, it was.

@poltergeist7621

3 жыл бұрын

The EU is now a supranational macro-State which goal is to delete the sovereignty of the countries building a macro-State, with the same ideology and politics, violating the democratic willing of the citizens of each country. The UE wanted to make Poland and Hungary socially posmodernist in order to get the COVID funds. THAT'S HORRIBLE. WTF is the EU to change a whole country? That breaks the Liberty of the States. That's too totalitarianism, like the fascism or communism. The Statism will destroy the EU.

Wow! Is that a country with some common sense?

@llewelyn7966

2 жыл бұрын

no

@peterpopovics9901

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Thanks God Europe has real people who is not scared of saying truth.

@moviemaestro800

2 жыл бұрын

Like how immoral it is to ban gay marriage.

@zoltancsikos5604

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviemaestro800 You are on the side of emotion, opinion and bias - we are the side of reality, morality, logic, facts, truth, honesty, etc. It is immoral to push pedophilia into our society. Everything which opposes pedophilia is good and just. It is moral. I love correcting you on your ignorance and delusion 😂

"I'll bring Hungary to it's knees on this" I would like to see him try

@wfpnknw32

2 жыл бұрын

You guys basically live off EU handouts.. not hard to take away your pocket money..

@wfpnknw32

2 жыл бұрын

@Azur i it's like your boasting about a bully at school stealing your lunch money.. sad that you let them do that to you..

@wfpnknw32

2 жыл бұрын

@William Miley yeah kind of like if a company stops paying you if you stop working. To join the eu you agree to uphold equality. You dont want to do that fine then we wont pay you..

@wfpnknw32

2 жыл бұрын

@Azur i we give it to your country so it's yours. If your leaders decide to take it all for themselves and still charge you high taxes etc, then they're stealing it from you.. It's not complicated..

@wfpnknw32

2 жыл бұрын

​@William Miley that's like saying north korea agrees in free speech, just not our version of free speech. Hungary agreed to uphold the EU's definition of equality when they joined (if you can have hetrosexual relationships on tv you can also have same sex). They say they cant do that then fine. Leave.

I’d argue that Orban’s blatant corruption and misuse of EU grants should be enough to question their position in the EU

@ipadair7345

3 жыл бұрын

@Firm Buttocks Hungary already had membership, it doesn't look good on the world stage when you accuse a close country of yours which your citizens interact with for corruption. Anyhow, the E.U has gotten something which they can use against Hungary, which they officially did.

@ferdinand8994

3 жыл бұрын

@@braynaguilar8567 EU doesn't have any influence anyhow it's nothing but an economic union.

@lukacsnemeth1652

3 жыл бұрын

@@braynaguilar8567 Nah, they cant worsen, we are a cleptocracy, supported by the net EU transfers. Orban is building a "national plutocrat cast" by redirecting funds from the EU to them. If they kick us from the EU, they cant maintain it from the free market, so their only option is to stay inside. The dramatic two face communication toward the EU and inside is a good example. Trying to save face in the EU, and stoking homophobia in the rural regions is the name of the game.

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

@@lukacsnemeth1652 Hungary is the Mexico of Europe, is just that Hungarians are allowed to move freely into other countries unlike we Mexicans who have to work to get Visas and get foreign citizenships

@TenOrbital

3 жыл бұрын

@@ilo3456 - Mexicans don't need to move anymore, American companies come to you.

Czechia, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary. We should all leave EU and have our own union.

@oskars1419

2 жыл бұрын

yep :D

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

nah lol :D

@loki.winter

Жыл бұрын

Please do. We don't want you anymore :D

The EU is falling apart, and Central Europe is rising. There is a reason for that.

@MyPrideFlag

2 жыл бұрын

the EU is falling apart and it will definetely not benefit central Europe. I hope that this crisis will be resolved. No one is without a blame here.

@user-dx8iv1ds1f

2 жыл бұрын

Central Europe is ot rising and undermining democracy and depriving people of their basic rights is not what will help central Europe rise. Conservative countries are the poor for a reason

@petervarga3618

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-dx8iv1ds1f You are wrong. Central european countries did not have colonies that made western european countries rich and after the second world war the communist regime destroyed the economy that's why the are poor. Look at western democracies (censor culture, pc, anti-white racism, liberal media terror) and think about it human rights again.

@himanshugurjar9002

2 жыл бұрын

If EU falls, France will be a superpower

@user-dx8iv1ds1f

2 жыл бұрын

@@petervarga3618 they colonized other countries because they were already rich. Their technology was already much more advanced, this is exactly what allowed them to colonize. They did not get rich or civilized thanks to colonized countries. As for human right believe me western countries allow their citizens enjoy freedom much more than other countries. Not oppressing lgbt community in western European countries is just an example

If you’re here for the straight answer to the question, the answer is no.

@daveyhu

3 жыл бұрын

"straight" answer I see what you did there yiiiiis

@oscarosullivan4513

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@barnabaranyi1308

2 жыл бұрын

Is this really you Napoléon?

@mamaluigi1438

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary should probably just leave instead of getting kicked

"Is this an alliance of nations? What's the nation of our alliance?!" -- Hamilton, the European Cast

@CailinZwarts

3 жыл бұрын

you know the deleted adams administration rap? yea we need that

Personal morals and family values are NOT the business of politicians of other countries. The EU is NOT a single nation. It is a collection of nations, which by definition have distinctive cultures and religious beliefs. The strength of the EU lies in cooperation and embracing the diversity of nations, not in a Hitler approach. The primary purpose of the EU is security and trade, not cultural subjugation.

@konicks2359

Жыл бұрын

this is not cultural subjugation its basic human decency ffs, right to marry, to adopt and to freely associate

838 paedophiles disliked the video.

The problem is gay people are now associated with quite radical ideas about gender. When I (a gay man) speak to my polish friends they often say they don’t care about people being gay just the political side of it. (Teaching in schools, people in Speedos walking down the street, drag kids) that sort of stuff. The Eu failed to realise that nations in Eastern Europe are much more conservative and religious then Western Europe, are values don’t always align.

3 жыл бұрын

This. The problem might be in that the radical ideas are the ones that are most visible in media and on the internet. I believe that a vast majority of people under the LGBT umbrella are normal people. But then there is a very "loud" radical minority that by their actions really disturb this perception. Even though I try to be rational about this, I still get scared when I read stories about what is happening at some universities in the US - trigger warnings, professors fired for having a different opinion, teaching that all white straight men are bad and so on. It is hard for me to evaluate how true these stories really are. But that doesn't erase the emotion.

@blockproducer_sigma

3 жыл бұрын

Noooooo you cannot make sense! This is forbidden and against our agen...human rights! Heckin bigot, you! :(

@unoriginal_username1

3 жыл бұрын

@ and then we wonder why countries in Eastern Europe Asia and Africa are afraid to start going down the same road. They see affording gay people equal rights as one step towards all this madness and that’s a real shame but in some ways understandable

If Hungary gets kicked out of the European Union, I honestly think Poland will follow through with polexit because they love Hungary and Hungary is the one who vetoed the EUs attempt to suspend Poland, so without Hungary in the EU there will be no point in Poland staying.

@janikajani3854

3 жыл бұрын

And then when Poland leaves the whole V4 may exit

@filipw8050

3 жыл бұрын

i want some the things your smoking. While Poland and Hungary are good friends both the EU and Poland gain a lot from the coalition. The raw manufacturing power of Poland is quite big.

@arobrak1565

3 жыл бұрын

i think that eu coudn't survive an other -exit if other countries leave it is doomed

@sanmaz1019

3 жыл бұрын

If Hungary will kick then not only the V4 will follow us, the whole Balkan and Baltic states are gonna leave the EU, because they are dissapointed the EU if it kicks someone only this reason. Then Hungary will create there own fraction, whit those who leaved the EU, maybe whit Visegrád name. And if it happens, maybe that will be the last choice of the EU, because it is the end for the EU if the half of there states are leave. From a Hungarian

@LadiRoman

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanmaz1019 is this a fever dream or something? 😆 Slovakia, but Czechia mainly - won’t do anything for Hungary and Poland. No one’s gonna leave for you. The only reason we’re not voting against you is not to hear you crying and finally having nothing to do with you. V4 is such a outdated union, it’s still running just because we are faking politeness to those backed up so-called democracies you have. ✌🏻🕊 I’m sorry, but we can’t stand you really. Even our antiLGBT nationalists hate your guts. There is no chance bby. 🤙🏻

So Hungary and Poland are like the Texas and Alabama of Europe?

@Judah132

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Batmax192

2 жыл бұрын

Poland more like Texas and Hungary more like Alabama... ;-)

@patricksee10

2 жыл бұрын

No Australian version of Texas or Alabama, it’s all Berlin

Since 6 times more founds are leaving than entering in Hungary per year, countries like this are founding players on the west. If they are start kicking players like hungary and poland, the big business is gone and eu will fall apart. They just want to pressure the hungarians to elect more "eu conform" leadership. Bad news for them: this will not happen. Hungary was agreed to be part of an economycal partnership, not an ideological or an other ussr.

@slkozmaishere6312

Жыл бұрын

Hungary was not part of the ussr, plus hungary takes the most money from the eu so they should stop bitching if they like their money so much

@theseekeroflambsauce3601

Жыл бұрын

Buddy, look up the list of net contributors in the EU. I can garantee you won't find Hungary there, and in the 2018 budget Hungary was the second highest.... In the amount of money they receive but don't contribute, in first place being Poland

Interesting how "People should be informed and live as freely and happily as possible" nowadays is considered a (controversial) political opinion with it being perfectly fine to have a different opinion on this.

@Chrissy717

3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame and I really don't like how Hungary is acting lately. Destabilizing your own democracy while still being part of the EU is just wrong.

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chrissy717 To be fair Sweden is doing it too by canceling an entire party and anyone that works with it... effectively overriding the vote of anyone who elected them... That not democratic etheir. Now debating about the laws being passed in Hungary is a different thing and they should let the people vote for or against it.

@SK0941

3 жыл бұрын

No? If they would've been canceled how come some parties are willing to form a government backed by them? I don't support them the least because they go against so much of my personal views. But they're not canceled.... They have as much say in the parliament as the people has given them

@r_b42

3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Thank you for pointing out that your comment is completely unrelated to the topic of our comments. ✌️

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

3 жыл бұрын

@@r_b42 Ulreated how? You said hungry is destabilizing its government and I was adding so is Sweden.

According to the treaties no country can be kicked out. It is impossible. Only a country can decide to exit

only the parents should decide the sexual education of the kids. This is not an extremist view, its common sense.

@goldbeni

2 жыл бұрын

I find it weird how the people who say this are usually against abortion too. Do they not realize that not educating children will lead to unsafe sex and more abortions?

@lekntakfs1071

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone deserves an education. Children are not property who you can just keep ignorant and thats perjudicial not only for them, but for the people around them.

Who would call Liberalism 'normal' these days? 😂

@statsguy1446

2 жыл бұрын

Literally everyone who has heart and brain.

@joshmorcombe4907

2 жыл бұрын

Anybody who has any knowledge of history at all

@moviemaestro800

2 жыл бұрын

Liberalism has been "normal" in European culture for over a century now.

@mamaluigi1438

2 жыл бұрын

Have you been living under a rock for the past few decades

It's a union of various nations with different values and cultures. Much like the united States before and after the civil war, there will be a time to come where a line must be drawn where the EU has power and the nations have power. I don't mean to conflate the 2 completely different places here in any way, but it should be said that these little fractures will best be addressed sooner rather than later.

@bomschhofmann1644

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, they are addressed: union law over writes domestic law, point. The nation can do what ever the f they want in the border the EU sets

@augth

3 жыл бұрын

But the EU doesn’t exist to be a state, and if so most countries would leave

@lochness96

3 жыл бұрын

However the EU was not founded to be a federal state, it was founded to be centred around Economics, not one nation joined to give up there sovereignty.

@ukyoize

3 жыл бұрын

Line cannot go over equality.

@inigobantok1579

3 жыл бұрын

@@lochness96 except Brussels especially after the euro was adopted and the 2008 financial crisis were interfering with certain sovereign state policies look at Italy Greece and the balkans during the migrant crisis they have a history of interfering and always handing the nuclear option to those who weren't complying

This is an absolutely excellent piece of journalism. Very objective. This filled in many gaps in my knowledge of this developing situation.

@polishmemefactory4793

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@TSDamiano

3 жыл бұрын

Better than bias press in my country

@ottovonbismarck1352

3 жыл бұрын

I find it sad that we have to congratulate journalists for doing there job and not being completely bias. It would be like congratulating a teacher for educating there students or applauding a dentist for taking out a cavity.

@polishmemefactory4793

3 жыл бұрын

@@ottovonbismarck1352 thankfully, (some) teacher are applauded by their school community to show appreciation for their work of at least trying to educate a much more thankless generation of self-intitled morons

@ottovonbismarck1352

3 жыл бұрын

@@polishmemefactory4793 I’m not trying say that showing appreciation is a bad thing however it is still the job of the individual to do the job they are getting paid for. In the instance of the teacher they are getting paid to teach (if they get paid an adequate amount is a different augment) but non the less they have an obligation to educate. They should not get rewarded for that just like how a journalist shouldn’t get applauded for being objective and giving information.

This law is not anti gay it is pro family it limits the promotion of alrenatve lifestyle by instututions and leaves to the parents GREAT MOVE

@moviemaestro800

2 жыл бұрын

Keep telling yourselves that.

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

you swallowed Orbans propaganda like germany's people used to swallow Goebbels'

this is real paradise

Didn't think there was any way to kick a country out of the EU

@koelkast9

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't

@MDP1702

3 жыл бұрын

Article 7 is more about very harsh sanctions, though if this does get triggered, it means more than enough support to possibly go further. Afterall if all memberstate are willing to activate the nuclear option and this doesn't cause the sanctioned nation to back down, there likely will be enough support to just push them out, existing articles or not.

@tomasvrabec1845

3 жыл бұрын

Technically, if all other sides agree, they can.

@PabloTBrave

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomasvrabec1845 until a country is suspended/expelled it still has a vote and presumably it will not vote against itself , so doubtful all will agree. Now if you suspend voting rights then the EU is no longer democratic as not all have a vote and therefore is breaking is own rules and should suspend and expel itself. Not having a specific removal clause was an oversight .

@MDP1702

3 жыл бұрын

@@PabloTBrave A memberstate doesn't have a vote when it is about sanctions against them obviously. This is the same in every democracy, a party can't vote/take part in preceedings that decide about sanctions against them.

No EU values, no EU money. At a memorable point in the first Godfather movie, Clemenza demonstrated his wisdom when he offered this sage advice to Michael Corleone: "You know you got to stop them at the beginning, like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich."

@arcdukeofthetrains5749

3 жыл бұрын

there whrere red flags since 2015 but those where ignored

@Camallunt

3 жыл бұрын

@Influence08 considering that this value is 2 versus the rest right now it would seem that it is majority rule.

@DaveVersteeg

3 жыл бұрын

@Influence08 you got to be kidding...right. Who dicides what values we have. It begins with not discriminating, is that hard for you.

@coderentity2079

3 жыл бұрын

Sure. This law is stopping the indoctrination of children to be gay right from the beginning. Wisdom see?

Im hungarian and proud

It's not right for anyone to dictate policy. If hungry says that the alphabet people aren't acceptable in Hungarian culture, so be it. They can move somewhere where people want them around

@nabibbs2402

2 жыл бұрын

bad take

@pillango7922

2 жыл бұрын

@@nabibbs2402 There is nothing wrong with adults identifying with whatever they like. They can live their lives in hungary and have parades, like last year... They can share their lives, live together, go to LGBTQ friendly bars and saunas... we have those too. But this LGBTQ propaganda is going way too far. Why mess with little kids who are just developing their identities? This is nothing more, but an experiment. This fad will pass too, just like BLM. Research about BLM being caught in corruption... Also research who is funding LGBTQ and BLM matters. I will not say.

Also Article Seven was used more on Hungary than all other members combined Yet Hungary is still all fine Seems like it doesn't really do much of anything...

@Szopjale1

2 жыл бұрын

If by fine you mean we living in ever increasing shitty conditions thanks to Orbán. Yeah... we are fine.

@HyperScorpio8688

2 жыл бұрын

@@Szopjale1 Those "ever increasing shitty conditions" are a byproduct of the 1990s debt spiral/total government ignorance of it ever since In a nation slowly drifting towards bankruptcy, of course conditions will deteriorate Instead of saying that it's the current government's fault, why not say it's the fault of the collective leadership since the 1980s?

@Szopjale1

2 жыл бұрын

@@HyperScorpio8688 The ever increasing shitty conditions I talk about are the direct result of Orbán and his actions. He is the one destroyed our democracy, eroded the civil rights, stolen all the money, brainwash people with propaganda similar to the early 20th century.

@a_1389

2 жыл бұрын

@@Szopjale1 Hungary and Poland are the only free countries in europe. They don't let anyone shove lgbtq+-_/$^*|>~} propagada to their people. I wish for more countries to follow in their footsteps defending europe and it's values.

@jadegreenleaf781

2 жыл бұрын

@@a_1389 so your definition of "free" is to punish, legally bar, or criminalize a certain group of people? are we sure we're talking about Europe and not the states here?

Thanks for moving most of the promotion to the end! PS: As always, great video!

Respect for Orban from Bulgaria. Nobody should dictate another country's laws

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary cant go against what they signed up for when entering EU. Now they're trying to break freedom of expression, so yeah EU can dictate country's laws

@zoltancsikos5604

2 жыл бұрын

@@justADeni Quite the contrary. The E.U isn't in a position to tell countries how to live.

EU should keep its nose out of these sort of affairs.

Meanwhile in UK: I should have thought of that earlier

@martinwyke

3 жыл бұрын

Thatcher did, search up clause 28.

4:22 hmm, the belgian flag in the background kinda looks like the flag of the Austrian empire.

@omaewamoshinderiunani3524

2 жыл бұрын

Yes lol

@ilcondottierocartografo6770

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@koesben9363

2 жыл бұрын

Yep xd

Looks like I'm moving to Hungary. Seems lovely there.

@samyt681

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your monthly salary

@mamaluigi1438

2 жыл бұрын

Yes if you're an intolerant skinhead you should go there

Hungary have the right to make their own laws, the EU is a Union not a Federal State. If the concervative countries, Poland, Czech , Slowakia, Slovenia, Austria and Hungary make their own Union, they won't need the EU

@Zukoiu

2 жыл бұрын

That WOULD constitute for a great thing indeed. EU with Germany at the helm lost the plot for the other members.

@spoonkus5893

2 жыл бұрын

God I hope this happens, just a proper economic Union instead of some US of Europe dominated by France and powered by Germany

@spoonkus5893

2 жыл бұрын

Visegrad Union for the win

@user-ly1fk9kk9d

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure cause rich countries like Czech Republic, Austria and Slovenia will leave EU that protects democracy and a wealthy economy just to join another union made by conservative brainless. Delirium is at it's highest.

@spoonkus5893

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ly1fk9kk9d welp, if Scotland desires to do so why shouldn’t actual EU members?

Looks like the Warsaw pact is rebuilding itself.

@ainisskulskis7975

3 жыл бұрын

bruh we need a new union without those snowflakes from the west

@yuriarlequim

3 жыл бұрын

Any unions against the EUSSR is valid

@zeroxthesoldat4410

3 жыл бұрын

This time i think a lot more people will be welcoming it.

@martinbudinsky8912

3 жыл бұрын

No need. Both are part of V4.

@kalipaycarlos6398

3 жыл бұрын

what a stupid comparison

Eu was once an economic union, good old times

@Nick-nb2oz

2 жыл бұрын

the EU has had its own laws for many years now, the anti-discrimination and equality laws have been there for a long time as well, it's not the EU that's suddenly changing, it's Hungary and Poland etc. that are disregarding EU's pre-established laws.

@ttjuicer5916

2 жыл бұрын

EU want to be lgbtq union

@Tommy9834

2 жыл бұрын

Now that Brexit is over and done with, they have no reason to pretend that was the case anymore.

@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274

2 жыл бұрын

@@ttjuicer5916 or just more progressive in general. Is BRICK any good

@ttjuicer5916

2 жыл бұрын

@@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 teaching little kids about transgender ideology sounds good !

People don't want democracy, they want dictators that agree with them. This applies to both sides on this topic.

@arnas159ds

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... pretty much. That's just universal.

@lekntakfs1071

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i mean, one part of them are not fond of being treated by their own goberment as subhumans, and the other one wants to compare lgtb people to pedos and to ban all education about the matter. Both sides are terrible indeed.

Well Hungary is the one who saved Poland from being kicked out a few years ago sooo I feel like Poland will do the same. Plus the governments in charge of those countries have similar political views.

@chrislouis7913

2 жыл бұрын

Probably countries like Romania, Croatia, Latvia will also support them

I don't think Hungary is wrong, like Orban explained: he isn't taking liberty away from LGBTQ+ people, he is just giving parents the option to teach kids these matters if they so desire. Plus he has the majority in parliament, so most people in Hungary probably agree with this, the EU isn't respecting the choice of the majority of people in Hungary. This is simply lack of tolerance from the EU, they should just accept these things instead of making ultimatums to member states.

@goldbeni

3 жыл бұрын

Except the fact that orban doesnt have a majority support, and the majority of people dont support this bill. The opposition and fidesz got nearly the same amount of votes last election, yet fidesz got 2/3 and the opposition 1/3 of the seats in parliament. Fidesz also REQUIRES many people to vote for them, if denied, then they lose their job. They also made it legal for non-hungarians to be able to vote, and actively brings in romanians and ukrainans to vote for them. They also made it harder for actualy hungarians who immigrated (their votes lean HEAVILY for the opposition, over 90%). They also redraw the electoral districts in favor of them, so they are autmoatucally guaranteed to have at least 70-80 seats out of the 199.

@MalloonTarka

3 жыл бұрын

There are two things wrong with the bill. First, it bans "promoting" homosexuality in schools (which in practical terms means "acknowledging homosexuality exists and is normal"). Second, it bans showing homosexuality on daytime television, acting as if homosexual relationships are perverse. Both of those are illegitimate discrimination against homosexual people.

@coderentity2079

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldbeni Lies, lies, more lies, misinformation, quoute actual numbers or be quiet. The majority of voters do support this bill and Orbán.

@showeyes

3 жыл бұрын

You are totally right.

@showeyes

3 жыл бұрын

@@MalloonTarka These are the best parts of the law.

If they kick Hungary they remove Romanias access to other eu members effectively making it harder for Romania to trade with EU the main benefit of eu membership

@francescoboselli6033

2 жыл бұрын

Also Bulgaria is in the EU, so Romania will always have that border

@francescoboselli6033

2 жыл бұрын

@@HetYaom but Croatia doesn't share a border with Romania 🤨

@francescoboselli6033

2 жыл бұрын

@@HetYaom because if we didn't brought them in the EU, not they will be even more "banana republic" and probably in the hands of totalitarian regimes allied with Putin

@ingnavar

2 жыл бұрын

@@HetYaom Croatia is the same banana republic just like Bulgaria and Romania

@dcinput7645

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's more about export - import taxes then free movement on border checkpoints.. They can still use Danube and black sea anyway...

EU kinda sus They kinda acting like a dictatorship If they kick out Hungary, all the others should leave as well right away! I am standing with Hungary, they are doing that completely right, and other countries should take Hungary as an example for how to do it right!

@badwasp2748

2 жыл бұрын

its a union of nations, if oneof the nations cant adhere to the rules of thisunions they shouldnt be part of it

@DPPOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@badwasp2748 It is a Union of sovereign democratic states that have their right to have their own laws and rights, the EU has nothing to tell them how to make their laws and rights, as it is just a UNION of states, not an official state itself. But you're right, if I was Hungary I would leave right away, because I wouldn't accept being DISCRIMINATED by that fucking EU for having my own laws and rights.

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

@@DPPOfficial which is funny because Hungarian people and parliament have already decided to uphold common EU rights and liberties by entering EU and signing international treaties international law exists, sweetie

I like that they're both "democratically backsliding" and "elected with a majority." Maybe I don't know what words mean I guess.

No country or union has the right to tell a sovereign nation how to run their land

@kisshereful

2 жыл бұрын

the union has rules, if Hungary does not want to follow the rules, it's free to leave the union at any point. altough less corruption money from the EU would kill our political elite, which would be really sad :(

@angriffslusticherWildoger

2 жыл бұрын

*ruin their land

@F2p7YshCn9

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they do. It's called international law. It's existed for millennia

@latulipenoire1549

2 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Remélem tudod, hogy a fenti törvény nemzeti hatáskör és nem uniós. Foglalkozzanak inkább az uborka görbületével...

@kordellswoffer1520

2 жыл бұрын

@@kisshereful what rules state that hungry must allow lqbtq stuff taught to children gender course back in school and let gay stuff on TV before 10 o'clock. Any rules about that as I doubt it truly.

the eu needs major reforms if it wants to have continued stability

@ZombieTeube

3 жыл бұрын

Like what?

@gustavthomsen1538

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZombieTeube That's the question isnt it?

@wfb.subtraktor311

3 жыл бұрын

@@gustavthomsen1538 It is quite simple: Unanimity should be repealed However this won't happen because repealing it would require unanimity.

@vitas75

3 жыл бұрын

@@wfb.subtraktor311 Even if it was repealed, nothing would happen to Hungary in this specific case. The are more anti LGBT nations than just those two.

@SOMEONE-cd9wf

3 жыл бұрын

The EU should shrink to the actual western european countries with shared values not far right dictatorships which infringe on human rights.

"silencing people who say what they don't like" 4:30 It smells like... double standards here...

@marekkac7046

2 жыл бұрын

Yikes!

@akirayonomori3854

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Double standards, at its finest.

@siyacer

2 жыл бұрын

Very much

@kaori1822

2 жыл бұрын

It is a double standard because, objectively, one is trying to create a safe space (a bubble, if you will) for homophobic people by discriminating against a minority and the other stance is about treating all people the same, because they are also humans that exist and you can't simply pretend that there aren't any in your country. Obviously if you think being LGBTQ is wrong you would try to erase them and shelter you kids from them, but just wanted to say something from my own perspective. Have a nice day.

@siyacer

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaori1822 homophobes don't need safe spaces

Go Hungary Go !!!!

Am I the only one who was mainly bothered by it originally being a bill against paedophilia, until some schmucks added a bunch of other rubbish on top of it? PRIORITIES, PEOPLE! 😠

@Debre.

3 жыл бұрын

Sucks that most Western media is missing this, despite it being the move that shaped much of the ensuing political debate in Hungary itself.

@tieshaunntanner6846

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@johenlo9564

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is the law Main focus it prevents the harming of the kids

@surprisedlobsta8543

3 жыл бұрын

considering how many conservatives view the lgbt community, they see those two words as the same thing

@TheBard1999

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you think that was also the point? Because this anti-lgbt clause is now connected to anti-pedophilia law, Hungary can argue that it's opponents are pedophiles.

Jean claude juncker actually once called orban a dictator. Right in front of his face. Right in front of camera :D

@_armoricat_

3 жыл бұрын

Hungary is slowly becoming an autocracy as Orban's friends own most major medias, and as he changes the constitution to favor himself.

@teaser6089

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Claude is amazing like that, he really doesn't care about wether or not people he talks about are literely standing next to him, it's amazing haha

@pisspantsbiden6851

3 жыл бұрын

A drunk corrupt eurocrat.

@XMysticHerox

3 жыл бұрын

@Firm Buttocks I don´t like Juncker as he was corrupt as fuck but how was he a dictator? Dictators don´t tend to be replaced peacefully without any fuss.

@XMysticHerox

3 жыл бұрын

@Firm Buttocks Good thing they aren´t uinaccountable.

It's not even anti LGBT... they just don't want their children to be sexualized so soon....

@MrSeal-oy3fu

2 жыл бұрын

It's not like the tv is a ground for gay propaganda. I have never ever seen a gay ad in my tv and i live in Greece, a "developed" nation. If Hungary, a conservative country with many backwards ideologies actually has more lgbtq+ ads in it's TV network, that would be a huge surprise. Can you also elaborate a bit more when you say "they just don't want their children to be sexualized so soon". Are you suggesting that the television can change the sexuality of someone? This law is 100% anti-LGBTQ+, it's restricting the right of certain individuals that belong in a bigger social group, to express themselves on tv.

@YellowGiraffeGal

2 жыл бұрын

I see how that may make sense for someone looking from the outside looking in. As a Hungarian, let me give a bit more context. Fidesz (the ruling party) is strongly conservative to a fault. It's not about sexualization, it is about old values, that are not just un-liberal, but also I guess you could say ancient. Hungary is running out of Hungarians, our population is dropping (as I guess is the case for most developing countries), and based on nationalist ideology mixed with catholic values, Fidesz is doing their absolute best to keep the population growing. This is a very-very small country, with less than 10 million people. In their heads, "western" values led us here, and they are obsessed with the idea that George Soros with a help from some conspiracy is doing his best to make sure that Europe becomes something like the US, where the now individual countries will just become states. Fidesz is promising that if we let Brussels tell us what to do, and we take in all the western values, we will lose our cultural essence. The whole thing is extremely nationalistic. For them, LGBT guys are "against the fabric of family", for obvious reasons. They want everyone to be "normal".

@jhinthevirtuoso4886

2 жыл бұрын

@@YellowGiraffeGal Europe is trying to become a centralized state like the US though it's just utterly failing

@jonbalderh

2 жыл бұрын

Sex education is a part of school and there are more sexualities than just straight. Children need to learn that as well as other sex education.

@YellowGiraffeGal

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 yeah, agreed, but I think the idea that this would just erase national identity as a whole is a bit outlandish. Language barriers don't make centralizing on a civil level all that easy.

The fuck they're gonna do, invade Hungray because they passed their own law?

@matt309

2 жыл бұрын

As the title said, theyll be kicked out europe. So hungaria will be located in aisa, africa or the americas

@hatred520

2 жыл бұрын

@@matt309 Hungarians be like " I identify myself as an Asian"

Maybe you can do a video about Slovenia’s presidency of the European Council

@JoaoDias-et6cd

3 жыл бұрын

Or Portuguese's btw, since it just ended

@brunocolin5612

3 жыл бұрын

Slovenia’s presidency of the European Council ? Parfois l'histoire est comique ! 😂😂😂 Slovenia une médiocrité de l'histoire !

@uporabn1k

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunocolin5612 English, not everyone knows how to read Algerian.

@michellopes4853

3 жыл бұрын

@@uporabn1k lol

@oscarosullivan4513

3 жыл бұрын

@@uporabn1k Thats French you pillock

we know end of the world is near when this is considered contraversal...

@sirxxbiggusnuttusxx6094

2 жыл бұрын

@@masoodajmal ?

@user-hp1cu9lc3l

2 жыл бұрын

@@masoodajmal what what

@KLGnation

2 жыл бұрын

Someone missed the point...

@scipioafricanus6979

2 жыл бұрын

@@masoodajmal errrrrrrrr!

@kordellswoffer1520

2 жыл бұрын

@@KLGnation what point that the eu is a complete and utter mess.

I really like how you covered this without leaning on either side. This is how news should be done.

@otpont

2 жыл бұрын

You are wrong. It is one sided.

@william254

2 жыл бұрын

@@otpont How so?

@KalphosZeromar

2 жыл бұрын

@@otpont are you sure about that

@otpont

2 жыл бұрын

​@@william254 1st, 0:27 democratic backsliding is false. It did not happened. 2nd, 1:00 false. It is NOT anti LGBTQx, it is children protection law. 3th, 3:00 false. It is about schools, and not media. (RTL is one of the biggest enemy of Hungarian government - so it lies) 4th, 3:27 false. It dot have banned, just nobody wanted to go, so the government stopped financing that. But whoever wants to start a gender study major, it is ok, but the students (or somebody else) have to finance it. 5th, 4:10 false. There is no such thing as only one kind of "EU values". There is a lot values in Europe. One is Christian values and Hungary is promoting that values. When Hungary has joined the EU it was Ok, and nobody questioned that. The "EU values" has changed, and started to attack the very foundational value of Europe, which is Christian values. And so on, and so on.... several other false statements. Bad sources.

@sanjayrai2934

2 жыл бұрын

@@otpont Eu values ar secular and for equal rights regardless of gender, religion and ethnicity. Hungary is democratically backsliding according to freedom index and almost every source

The paper tiger from Brussels roars again - how frightening 🤣🤣🤣

@justADeni

2 жыл бұрын

Fat round man from Budapest squeks in tiny voice - how frightening 🤣🤣🤣