We have a grandson that started off in University and watched his student debt rise and he understood where that was heading. After 1 year he dropped out and went to work in a Whirlpool washer/dryer plant via Kelly Services. After 6 months Whirlpool hired him direct and told him they would help pay for his college if he returned. For the past 2 years he has been enrolled in Engineering Technology at The Ohio State University with an emphasis on manufacturing and he is scheduled to graduate next year. Recently he was promoted to machine operator with an hourly rate of $26.00. He works 3rd shift, 4 10’s to give him time to attend school during the day. We are very proud of him.

@thenourway

19 күн бұрын

OSU is great! And every apartment complex is hiring these machine techs (or a business that offers that services! Hint hint!) to fix all the broken things.

@Jabb135

11 күн бұрын

Sounds like a hard working determined young adult congrats

@Hallowsaw

11 күн бұрын

I quit college to become a meat department team leader at my local grocery store making 34/hr. Why did i pay 15k to go to college for 3 years?

@drunkdonutboy

10 күн бұрын

​@Hallowsaw where you live california?

@toddtheisen8386

9 күн бұрын

Corporations used to do similar things all the time. Apprenticeships, tuition reimbursement and higher education were financed because an educated workforce tends to be more productive. Unfortunately the pursuit of "maximum profit" wiped almost all of those aspects out.

I work at one the largest heavy manufacturers in the USA. All the executives and HR do is complain that we cannot get enough competent workers. They do not mention the stagnant wages for the last 15 years. The elimination of pensions and scaling back of 401(k) matching. The enormous bonuses to upper management but none for the production workers doing the actual work. It is not a "lazy" problem of the young people. It is a compensation problem.

@debblouin

8 күн бұрын

Ahhhh!!! Let me ask you this: how productive are you? Have you negotiated for performance pay, or are you relying on hourly pay regardless of how productive you are? And “doing the actual work” is kinda funny. Do you think that the only people doing work are the plant line workers? AND, have you made any efforts to increase your value to the company and skills so you can advance in your current occupation or achieve advancement in your organization? How is your attitude and attendance? How much do you bring versus how much you take away? Maybe the company you work for is terrible. Maybe they SHOULD pay more. But maybe you should take your power back by taking responsibility for your choices and behavior and true value. BTW The company seems pretty transparent if you are knowledgeable about management bonuses.

@tylercampbell6365

7 күн бұрын

​@@debblouinAll the things mentioned are going on across the country and everything mentioned is due to Republicans leadership..I work in a right to work state..They are Anti union and Anti paying more than what will bring you back the next day...The young people have figured out that working 30 years to make someone else rich is not where it's at..

@jutde

6 күн бұрын

@@debblouinDo you think the company has raised their prices to compensate for inflation?

@TheRealiRgrunt

5 күн бұрын

@debblouin I can tell you don’t deal with the trades, if you do it’s a large one. Business owners are so far detached from reality and have their heads so far up their ass, asking how to bring more value to the company to get a raise is a good way to get fired.

I am 33 and feel like my generation was misled. In high school I was told that if I didn’t study and go to college that I would end up being a plumber or electrician and portrayed it as being a minimum wage job.

@evanhailey76

22 күн бұрын

This right here. I've never asked for forgiveness but we need to remember that generations of students were LIED to in order to fund universities.

@illhaveanother8173

22 күн бұрын

Plumber and electrician are well paid. Machinist and several other trades are not and have no job security. It's a mixed bag and "the trades" is too general just like "go to college". All trades including plumbing and electrical are pulling that nonsense of entry level positions asking for 3-5 years experience like corporate jobs are right now. Plenty of trade school grads saying the same thing as degree holders that they are not able to get hired. It's a real mess everywhere with tons of companies of all sorts plain lying about not having enough people to hire. For many of these places they need to pay better and train people them self instead of poaching talent from other companies and trying to pay apprentice wages to desperate workers.

@EternallyGod

22 күн бұрын

Your parents also failed you, they should also know better. The richest people i know were high school dropouts who went back and got that ged and then took a college course AFTER the company the own prefered it.

@talyahr3302

22 күн бұрын

I was told if I didn't get a degree I'd be at McDonald's or Walmart.

@jackstoltz1379

21 күн бұрын

Right I'm glad I was smart enough even in elementary school to know college and climate change was a scam. Lol get loans and give us taxes for air

I love Mike Rowe and Dave Ramsey. I'm a guy that has a two year technical degree and I make a six figure income in the mechanical engineering field. I was a mechanic for 18 years before I went back to school after a spinal injury in my mid 30s, now I design machines for a living and on no less than 35 patents. I had two doctors that wanted to put me on disability but that's not who I am, I need to have a purpose in life. I'm now 60 and will retire debt free thanks to the the Dave Ramsey program. 😁 Looking forward to building my hobby farm with all the animals that will bring me great joy.

@jcodo

21 күн бұрын

Thank you @chuckd853 for your exemple! God bless you!

@getinthespace7715

20 күн бұрын

Awesome. Living the dream. I'm hoping to do much of the same and set myself up over the next 10 years.

In Texas.... the oil & gas companies agreed to pay the local trade school $0.30 (making up amount) for every hour a new grad worked in the field for x amount of years. They also provided old pipes/supplies for students to use/practice with. This is what likely needs to happen with local real estate/construction companies...

@chrismcmaster945

18 күн бұрын

Sounds like what the unions do

@pabapaba6869

7 күн бұрын

That's how capitalism should work, without government interference.

One of the best things businesses can do is institute an incentive program. For instance, a mechanic shop offers a bonus to top performers because if they do the work faster and better, the shop wins and the tech wins. In sales, offer incentives to foster the best salesperson and promote them. That's how you increase resilience in a work environment. Also, a training program organically arises and your employees are the best, most motivated folks around and speak well of their job when they leave.

49 year old Gen X here. Diesel mechanic of 23 years. I am a college dropout out. Was pressured to go to college. Went to trade school instead. When I first started in 2001. Guys were stopping by looking for a job weekly. That dried up in 2008 and up. The shortage started way before teachers and nurses. The average age of mechanics is 42. The last 2 years we have seen mid 20s start back into the trades. It’s turning around. I have seen parents tell their kids college is the only option. It’s funny how many millennials have massive college debt. A lot don’t own a house. My neighbor graduated college with a major in music. He works at a dungeon and dragon shop. I purchased my first house at 26. My wife and I live in the burbs. We have twins who are 11. We have nice cars and go on x2 vacations a year. The potential for side work is huge. I make 110 hr tax free an hr when I want. I fix almost everything around my house. Most of my millennial neighbors pay for landscaping, mechanics, home repairs etc. The parents failed them. My current job. I was recruited. They paid me a 7k bonus, they pay for my kids college. That sold me. With the shortage we are treated 180 from 10 plus years ago. My employer knows I can get a job in 1 day. Any appointment I have etc. I can go to and make up my time. We are treated very well. Also the boomers are gone and GenX runs the show and millennials. Guys don’t yell or scream anymore. I love my job. Only downside. Most shops have gotten ride of Shop foreman. They call it a lead. Shops took advantage of the shortage and Shop managers run 1-3 shops. Not 1 like it should be. My shop managers last 1 year and toss the phone and keys. Also training for green guys has been zero. It’s frustrating we don’t have time to train new guys. It’s a disaster. I wanted to get promoted to shop foreman and Manager. You have to be high to do it now. The responsibility is x5 of what it used to be. It sucks at 49 still on the floor. At least I do my job and go home…..

Skilled trades are needed by everyone. If the lights don't work, the surgeon can't perform. If the water doesn't make it to the sink, the food doesn't get washed. If the sewage doesn't make it to the treatment facilities, it winds up in the streets and rivers. We are just as (if not more) important than and college graduate.

The improv between Dave and Mike at the beginning is what happens when you have two Alpha Titans on the stage. Two strong men who created their world and do not allow it to simply happen to them. Thank you both.

Im 35. Went to college to be a theater sound technician and actor. But since then i have been a carpenter, taught driving, coached gymnastics (my sport growing up) and im proud to say i just got hired to be a plumbers apprentice TODAY! Its never to late and the opprotunities are ready and waiting. PS. Dirty jobs was one of my favorite shows when I was growing up. Thank you Mike and Dave for what you share with the world.

Mike Rowe is still as sharp as ever...

My parents (70+), while they left middle school, had aptitude testing. Following this they were streamed into 2 choices, college/uni prep or trade school. The scholastic system then had 2 completely different schools that ran in tandem. This resulted in the greatest dearth of actual tradespeople ready to hit the market by the age of 18. We need this back. There are thousands of schools that are sitting derelict that can be immediately converted back to trade schools. It just needs a level of reinvestment on a local level with federal AND market partnerships. Unions NEED to be a vital part of this going forward.

@joewalch89

21 күн бұрын

They still do it this way in many countries. I was an exchange student to japan and I attended a construction/civil engineering high school. 3 hours of woodworking and bricklaying every day. The students actually built the baseball stadiums dugouts with supervision from the teachers.

@starspaceschool587

13 күн бұрын

Unions particularly public sector unions often negotiate against the interest of their members. I’ve seen unions effectively deny promotions and extra pay to their members and in exchange the union forcibly took extra money from their checks.

Both of my grandsons have taken training in votech in high school. My oldest is working as a welder and doing well and my youngest grandson is taking heavy equipment training in votech, he is going to nationals to compete in Georgia in June. He won gold here locally .He already has a job waiting for him as soon as he finishes high school.👏👏👏 6:37

Absolutely LOVE Mike’s ending about welders who can discuss Descartes and philosophers who can run a good bead. So, so true!

@chrishardin4725

6 күн бұрын

Lots of time to think under that hood. It doesn't take long for the work to become boring muscle memory. I wrote a 2 minute song in my head doing water tight 7018 overhead with a mirror in a confined space. Do it enough and anything becomes everyday.

I work with teenagers and I encourage them to consider working in the trades. I am sending Mike Rowe's website to parents and my co-workers.

Yes I work 20 years for a man who owned the company right along side putting in sub drain by hand shovels. Big respect!! Retired now.

Right on! I'm a mechanic I'm wrenching right now listening to this. Run my own shop out of my barn for last 11 years. I'm 30 now. I have a hard time finding a good mechanic to help. Thank you guys for your wisdom!

Re: How to reward outstanding production/results without burning out your crew. -- Recognize it as "outstanding" , unusual, 120% effort. Don't expect everyone on the crew to perform at that level from now on. Worked a factory job - could tell the good supervisors - C level work was 'keep' your job, B level work was 'promotion possible' at next opening, A level work, management training. Poor supervisors kept pushing people to 'do better' 'work faster' & wondered why their department had the highest rate of accidents. If an employee puts in extraordinary effort to help complete a rush job, recognize it as that, don't expect that level of effort to be the new norm. Reward the problem solvers - those employees that work well when there is work to be done, but sit back and watch when there is a lull in production. Don't push busywork such as sweeping a clean floor.. Let them think about how to rearrange stocks to be more available during production to improve efficiency. Let them suggest some quick tasks that will help maintenance. Let them hunt that odd noise that keeps happening during production.

This boils down to good parents. Tell your kids to get into a trade from 18, by the time they are 22 they are a journeyman and making good money. Then they can do whatever they want....the world is at there finger tips.....they can work for someone else and have no worries.....they can start a business and see how they do.....they can do something else and end up back in that spot in the future cause other options always seem to fail.

@toddtheisen8386

9 күн бұрын

Except, most companies do not want to do the "good money part" for trade workers. And 80% of new small businesses fail. That is why young people have refused to fall for the dignity of hard work myth.

@EternallyGod

9 күн бұрын

@@toddtheisen8386 20% dont fail, that is a good number actually. Success rate is quite high. Nothing in life is guaranteed besides your death.

I sincerely hope more people go into the trades, especially as we face a housing and skilled labor shortage. Having worked in higher ed, I can attest that a lot of wily senior administrators will speak lofty words publicly but deep down inside they're ice-cold business people who will sell this intangible product of higher education to clueless 18 year olds in exchange for cold, hard cash even when they know these young people aren't studying something valuable and are unlikely to benefit. They love their own family, house, second house and retirement fund and the fact that they may facilitate a bunch of young people to go into needless debt to propel their career forward is just collateral damage to which they give very little thought. Most colleges would admit a sack flour with a face drawn on it as long as someone would pay its tuition. As a parent and teenager, you have to treat colleges, which are ostensibly nonprofits, as simply businesses and you as the buyer need to beware.

WORK ….. it’s the dirtiest four letter word …. You can’t get away from it. Work has to happen for the world to move. Love both of you guys. Dave you have changed my life with your teachings and we are 21 payments away from paying off our business. I’m married and we are on baby step 7 with our personal finances. Mike I remember watching you when I was in my early 20’s , I was in Army at the time and I’m behind everything you are teaching. Owning a restoration and body shop LABOR and WORK is the only thing that gets us to the end of the day. Hats off to both of you great men ❤

As a first gen mexAmerican, I will attest that my male cousins were told by my uncles (their fathers) that construction or any blue collar jobs were not for them. My uncles worked a hard blue collar life and sacrificed so much that their sons were not going to take the same path. Knowing what I know now, I wished the conversation could have been different. Such as they can climb the ladder in blue collar companies.

@marylee2732

18 күн бұрын

That’s every parents wish, we were misled and it is costing us.

@therearenocamerasintheboil733

13 күн бұрын

Any particular reason you're not just an American? I'm not trolling, it's just another way to divide people. I have eastern European heritage. I don't identify as a polish American. I'm an American. I have nothing against Mexicans. How can you be both. My point is my father belonged to local 701 and to iuoe local 150 he had to give up his 701 card. You can't have it both ways.

@tylercampbell6365

7 күн бұрын

​@@therearenocamerasintheboil733You don't have to give up your heritage to be an American.. America is a melting pot of many nationalities..

Navy vet. Almost 30 years in manufacturing maintenance. I'm now at a new company, DrinkPak, and my maintenance team has a lot of young guys. These guys are amazing. We need another few mechanics that are so good.

I enjoy both of your wisdom. Thank you.

This is what needs broadcast, someway, on an even larger stage (get it into high schools) that more and more people can see it.

That was quite an ending! Kudos to Mike Rowe.

Love both these guys!!!

Great show I'm enjoying it!! And I seem to have this super power when I watching a show. My insightful power was telling me that the talk ended somewhat after 2 pm. Actually not really.... I don't have a superpower... I just happened to see Mike Roe lift up his phone when he was talking and and I saw it said 2:00 p.m. when there was a few minutes left in the program. 😁

Love Mike’s analogy of eating the food on your plate. I have to tell myself almost every day to eat the frog first! Great feeling to start the day with the worst task done.

Most companies don't reward or recognize their most skilled and hardest workers.

@EarlHayward

2 күн бұрын

Actually, most do… But, those happy employees are not wasting their free time posting on social media about work grievances! The complaints are from those who are probably at work, not doing what they should be doing, complaining about the small bonus and lack of promotion…

So interesting, thank you very much

WE didnt have a labor problem when the trades paid a living wage,

Trade schools are raising their tuition as well it will cost you 30k just to get a certificate for a diesel mechanic

@EternallyGod

22 күн бұрын

30k isnt that much, if you apprentice it takes 4 years and you still spend a couple months in school. So that 30k bypasses the lesser incomes from apprenticing and brings you to the end. So that is like 10k a year...my opinion is even at 100k it would be worth it but over that is the break point. Investing in yourself is good when it brings you to a good end game.

@darkmediatracks

21 күн бұрын

​@@EternallyGod His point is they will raise their prices if more people go to trade schools.

@mikethemechanic7395

11 күн бұрын

You don’t need a degree to be a Diesel mechanic. It only earns you a management position.

@EternallyGod

11 күн бұрын

@@mikethemechanic7395 That depends on who you work for. I dont know anyone who is hired without a degree or they are severely underpaid.

@user-vb5in3pu3s

4 күн бұрын

Yeah i agree trade schools are expensive not worth it jobs get sent overseas we have a fascist economy.

The problem is that a lot of trades still don't pay too well. For instance, People already complain that the price of a house is about $300 a square foot to build new construction. But many of these trades are not making that great of money even at that price. Americans can't really afford to pay more than that as it is. Thus there is no room to increase wages for these trades. The same can be said about cars and mechanics. We are kind of at a stand off. Most trades have to spend a lot of their money on tools, vehicles, machines, warehouses, insurance, taxes, etc, etc.

@EternallyGod

22 күн бұрын

What do you mean they dont pay well? Show numbers. Mechanics for instance do gotta buy tools...but tools dont lose value, it is an investment. I dont know one mechanic that isnt doing very well. The worst off mechanics work at dealerships and dont work hard at all or use there minds ever in that job....it is the basement of that industry and every other option pays so much more.

@sherrijones9777

21 күн бұрын

I had 2 guys (1 plumber + 1 trainee) out to switch my PVC pipes to pex and they charged $1500 for 3 hours of work. They got paid $125/hr each while they were in transit to my house and while they went to pick up supplies and then came and sat in my driveway while they ate lunch since there was a tracker on the vehicle so they would get credit for being on the job during that time. I disputed the additional amount; they tried to charge for 5 1/2 hours of labor when they were only working 3. I’m glad Mike Rowe is rewarding people with integrity with scholarships.

@collin9085

21 күн бұрын

@@sherrijones9777 average salary for a plumber is 60k in america. It's a living wage. But it's also a tough and dirty job. You could make the same amount doing a variety of jobs that are less straining.

@collin9085

21 күн бұрын

@@EternallyGod Average pay for a mechanic in America is 47k per year. That is from the BLS. I'm sure there are some mechanics who make great money, just like some musicians make millions but most play in bars and street corners. The vast majority will make make around the average income in america. There are a lot of jobs you could do to gain more money with the effort and skill of a mechanic.

@EternallyGod

21 күн бұрын

@@collin9085 Dont compare mechanics to musicians they arent a close comparison at all. That number must include all apprentices...but like i said before dealerships hire tons of low paid mechanics who are shit at there jobs. In the US if you are great at what you do, you can make big money....people will line up to pay you for what you are worth. If you are shit, you get shit pay.....

I could listen to Mike Rowe all day! Does he still do Dirty Jobs? Love that show

I worked in the trades and I couldn’t make more than 55k a year. I worked 76 hours in the summer. It cost me my physical health.

@Galactis1

18 күн бұрын

That's the problem, none of us Millennials wanted to do trades because, we didn't want to work more than 40 hours. Problem is can't earn much money without overtime. Sorry I have a life, I want paid more than 50k for 40 hours.

Im 54. I have multiple income streams. THey are all blue collar. My mon-fri daytime job is commercial tires : repair and replacing semi truck tires, farm tractor tires, loaders and backhoes. It is filty dirty, and very laborous. I work with a 22 year old guy. I never expected to see a gen Z choose this kind of work, but he did. He comes to work everyday with a good attitude, and a willingness to do the nasty jobs. My middle son is 27 and a journeyman electrician. My daughter is 23, she was a mechanic on subarines in the navy, has gotten out of the navy and is working at a vetrinary clinic, studying to be a vettrinary technician, and her eventual goal is to become a vetrinarian. I see a lot of young people pursuing the trades.

Question. If trade school enrollment is going up, won't that create an over abundance of people looking for jobs in the trades? In the free market we live in, even labor is subject to supply and demand. Won't we have an over abundance of trades people (supply) compared to the number of jobs companies need to fill (demand) creating a less competitive pay scale? Also, if the number of people attending trade schools goes up, won't that also create more competition to get into the trade schools, causing an inflated price of trade schools and basically repeat the same issue that universities are having? We will have a sweet spot for a little while, but seems to me like long term it's a no win situation until there is either some sort of oversight or regulation on the amount of money an education system can charge it's students, or heaven forbid we (one of the wealthiest countries in the world) just offer free continued education like so many other first world countries have.

And to add to my previous comment, people also don't care about being "employee of the month." Most businesses seem to have automatic pay scales. With individual merit-based compensation, being a thing of the distant past... Now, people just want to be able to pay the rent on their modest apartment, without it sucking up 60% of their monthly post tax income. The fact that you can be making $18/hr in the US and it many places, it is still barely enough to cover rent on an average apartment, pay car insurance, pay the normal bills like water, electric and phone... Lets not even talk about the increase in food cost.

If the law of supply and demand is at play for these jobs, it won’t be long before these skilled trade workers can command $200 per hour and people will pay it to get their house plumbed or wired.

@sb2261

21 күн бұрын

Then the market gets saturated the '80s happens all over again in tons of people are out of unskilled work and skilled work

@EarlHayward

2 күн бұрын

They already do!

A lot of people have this thing that if everything just become normal again. Hoping for higher wages, cheaper prices, schools will cost less, etc. I'm here to tell you you're going to be disappointed and to understand how things work (ecom).

It’s not always about taking the trade route “making just as much financially” as the person with the college degree(s), it’s about levels of skill sets that are so desperately needed. They should be talking about how the lesser/cheaper/shorter route can be hell on your body in the workforce because it has a shelf life. Health can take its toll over time especially in the trades industry. Disability claims are through the roof at such younger ages now. When that happens you will for sure need the ones who went to college several times over and will later become frustrated when you run into not having enough Specialists that can meet your particular health needs that the trade industry caused. Folks need to stop downing the high tuition paying student loan folks because we see the medical bill balances that cost more than our education and guess who struggles to pay those medical bills?? Because the body can no longer produce like it use to which changes your income and health insurance. You will either pay on the front end of life, the middle, or back end, take your pick.

@plumbnplumber

8 күн бұрын

I know plenty of guys in their 60's still working in the field. Alcohol and drugs do more damage to the tradesman than the physical aspect of the job in many cases.

@slw04

8 күн бұрын

@@plumbnplumber: Trade fields are still very hard on the body in more ways than one and that includes lifestyle stuff too. 60s is not old either but trades can age you and make you think that. Some end up not working up to their full retirement due to medical problems. They may still work but they give the back breaking jobs to the younger people to let them do it because their bodies can only handle so much.

I enjoy walking through nice clean warehouses full of guys in kakis looking down on me because I’m covered in filth from working on their machines. Meanwhile, I know I’m pulling in 30% more than them and go home everyday feeling great about doing something real.

@EarlHayward

2 күн бұрын

Yep! Similarly, I like walking into critical facilities (hospitals, data centers) carrying my tools and being looked down at.. However, pretty sure I make more than most of those I have to deal with; and, probably more than all but the doctors or c-suite executives as I pull decent six figures (not to mention stock options, discount stock purchase opportunities, annual bonus, company truck, expense allowance, and other benefits)… But, while most of my time is actually behind a computer programming controls and writing reports, I still turn a wrench, use multimeters, and/or run a torch part of the time… Personally, I think I have the best of both worlds as I make as much or more than the average person with a graduate degree, but don’t have to sit behind a desk 8-10 hours a day, or more, like some of mine friends who are attorneys and engineers…

My only issue with trades is that getting started takes a lot of sacrifice. If you’re a middle-aged Millennial with an established family looking to reset from making the poor choice of listening to parents/guidance counselors that steered you into a worthless degree, you’re looking at lots of travel, lots of odd hours, or relocation just to get your foot in the door. Nevermind getting past the stigma of being the “old person” with minimal/no relevant experience who’s just looking for a chance to prove you have what it takes to succeed without the “required 15 years of experience” for an entry level position.

@EarlHayward

2 күн бұрын

How is that different from any other career choice or change? I put myself through college (part time over nearly 10 years) doing electrical and mechanical service work, then spent 25 years in professional services (Accounting and IT), and now back to the trades working on controls and cooling equipment (due to my programming skills)… Both career changes required many hours of research in looking at, applying to, and interviewing for opportunities I felt were a fit… Both required accepting a decrease in compensation in the short term, but I was quickly promoted given my work ethic, positive attitude, and critical thinking skills! Let’s face it, some people lack the ability to work hard, think critically, or both… In which case, their opportunities are limited because they never did, nor will, contribute services of sufficient value…

Noticed CA having issues attracting workers. I dare say it has more to do with CA than attracting workers. Florida does not seem to have this issue. How do attract someone to come to your state that is like Mexico now?

Take a bow, Grandad. No doubt your influence helped shape your Grandson's ambition and work ethic.

Welders near me make about $17hr... How do you make 120k with that?

@zackzander425

8 күн бұрын

They don’t. It’s all lies and bullshit. These pricks would never have their kids be welders. The reality is $25/hour, crap benefits and lung cancer/nerve degenerative disease when you’re older. Some might make 100K a year working overtime on a refinery or pipeline project but that’s not consistent income. Most of these guys blow it all on a diesel truck with a lift kit. Everybody lies about what they’re really making. Elitists want to keep people stupid and ignorant working these types of jobs. Don’t fall for it. Smart people don’t work with their hands. Even smarter people don’t work for money. They live off the money their assets and investments earn them.

@plumbnplumber

8 күн бұрын

Go work for one and find out

@jameseroh6544

5 күн бұрын

Many highly paid trades people, work overtime, for a 50% boost in income. Also working the off shifts may pay 5-10% more money as part of the base.

I studied business, has gotten me nowhere, I've gotten no value from it at all. But, I've gotten more value out of my work ethic from when I was younger. Hard for me is, I can't do hard labor nor do I want to work more than 40 hours. I want higher pay but, less work because, of my health condition. None of us Millennials wanted to do the hard work, and now we're too old to care. I'd like to finish my business degree just for the hell of it because, I know it won't mean anything at this point. By the time I do, I won't be working hard labor anymore. Here's the thing though, I've done extra effort for 20 years at companies that did not care, or recognize ethic and hard work. I still do hard work and focus on doing the best I can, I hate corporations period. Great video, but....

The richest guy I know is a roofer.

@EternallyGod

22 күн бұрын

Tornado alley in the US?

@zackzander425

8 күн бұрын

You need to leave your small town.

Prior to government taking on the lending of student loans, you went to your local bank and they scrutinized the loan to payback ratios to determine if the degree you were achieving was favorable to you being able to compete in your field. If not, no loan. This all went away with government student lending.

Roger Bannister did that mile on a dirt track!!!

I am not opposed to trades school but have a company pay for it don't use student loans

Problem with the trades is they don’t pay enough. Some locations are better than others, I think Orlando is one of the worst… COL websites are not accurate, but the wages are. So, unless you want to learn a trade then start your own business, trades are a slow death.

@EarlHayward

2 күн бұрын

Problem with [fill in the blank] is they don’t pay enough… When you omit skills, knowledge, experience, competence, work ethic, attitude, and all the other factors that will always be a true statement… Start factoring in other attributes, and I will ignore decisions people make which eliminate potential opportunities (referred to as colliders in statistics) for simplicity purposes, and having a six figure successful career can be found in almost any industry… I say this as someone that paid for my undergrad while working as an electrical and hvac technician, who then spent 20ish years in corporate, and now back to electrical and hvac (by choice) at 50ish years old and still make six figures! But, in my experience it takes two years to gain competence in any new role and company before advancement starts happening and these days we see people that change jobs every six months because they don’t get promoted fast enough!

Rewards should be linked directly to skills and work ethics. Unfortunately, because of bad hiring practices this is not achieved as desired.

Better start listening boys and girls yall owe me alit of money

Hey Mike....just wait for the Tesla Optimus humanoid robot to make its debut by the end of the year. Lotsa labor problems will start to be solved quite quickly.

Ramsey trying to relate to trade workers Is hilarious

The thing that people FAIL to realize is MOST trades wear your body out by 50-55 As the "retirement age" is pushed higher that leaves nearly 20 years an ex tradesman needs to have money set aside to live on. Therefore the trades NEED to PAY nearly 2x what a desk job does to make them legitimate options. I succeeded only because I am an entrepreneur and by 50 had built a home rental business AND a Plumbing business I cannot do the physical labor BUT the license and the other business fund my lifestyle If you want a JOB that you can do (without all the extra involved in business ownership) for life the TRADES do NOT PAY enough. PERIOD full stop.

Mikr Rowe is aging like fine wine 🤣 couldn’t concentrate on what he was saying

If you have good employees, pay them better. Offer bonuses for hitting certain goals.

The younger generation doesn’t care who is the donkey and who is the thoroughbred anymore. Even if employee grades were posted for all to see, this younger workforce won’t bat an eyelash. I agree we need more people interested in trades but again, the younger folks are seeing people become rich by going live on social media. This sends them the message that they can do less and make more.

Work at an hvac/refrigeration company now, going on 6 years. Never closed once, not even during the mandated shut downs. People need hospitals and food and the day they don't is the day all of our jobs have "been taken over"

Have you guys seen Mikey pipes.

“Need” is a funny word.

Mike is proud of himself. Maybe too proud.

Mike Rowe, too eloquent for a dirty job, but I digress... I work in the ship repair industry for the DoD and there is a profound shortage of skilled workers across the board in the civilian sector and the naval shipyard workforce. Pay is decent but the work is hard.

Pay sucks....

@striperkid

19 күн бұрын

.....then you must not be good at what you do.

@jasonkoplen2554

15 күн бұрын

Mike Rowe, and Dave Ramsey. Using their liberal arts degrees to tell aspiring youth that you don’t need an education to make them more money. 😂

@HH-le1vi

7 күн бұрын

You don't. I don't have a degree and I make more than the other people in my team and they all have degrees. ​@@jasonkoplen2554

5 trades people retiring and 2 replaceing them oh how nice. Everybodys labor price mustve doubled? No. Its halved if anything and genx is much meaner than the people before them even though theyre the ones that let it all slip.

Dave has some great advice for financials. I would not want to work for him lol.

I definitely don't push the trades on my son..Try not to work hard all your life if you don't have to..

Maybe there should be a separate class of degrees that you can only study if you already have a useful degree.

If you pay they will come. Company’s are not paying or providing enough benefits. As a tradesmen all that family bs is sweet nothings. Nose in the air college graduates that are hiring can’t stand to see someone in a trade making more.

It's not the workers fault that no one want's or can afford to have kids. It's not the workers fault that no corporation or government wants to invest in it's own people verse drain every penny you can from them.

I'm a Project Engineer. You all don't understand anything. The two people in the video are clueless to how things actually work. Blind leading the blind. SMH! Inflation will kill trades and people willing to work for less will take all the available jobs. I work with multiple trades every single day and these people in this video don't know more than i do aboutthe subject.

Shops were removed from schools because of liability issues law suits, lawyers destroyed the trades in this country, try and open a factory welding for example, insurance and law suits will choke you, what about that Mr. Rowe

The problem was never "The Trades." The problem was and still is, that people don't want to do this kind of bodily wear & tear work, for 50-60 hours a week, with no end in sight....

@ripvanwinkle3432

4 күн бұрын

At 45 I'm in better shape than most my age. As are most of my coworkers. The bad wear and tear thing is pretty much a thing of the past unless you are trying to prove how manly you are to other men 😂 I'm sure some lower tiered trades are hard on the body but don't do those unless you don't have the aptitude for higher skilled trades and your options are limited anyway.

A biden voter friend voted for him since Santa. He owes 110k on 2/3 a repair course to repair outboard motors. So he voted for biden since campaign promise might erase the loan. So they took 2/3 the course and dropped out since somehow thought they would make 100k at graduation.. ie they discovered some make make less so said to heck with the trades.

Auto repair pays S H I T

These old men are talking about labor and service crisis like we’re not gonna have humanoid robots doing everything in about 5 years

@jeremyhartsell2750

19 күн бұрын

Assuming you're serious, based off of your comment it's pretty obvious that these old men have more experience and knowledge under their fingernails than you do in your entire body.

@pixler4208

19 күн бұрын

@@jeremyhartsell2750 Dude Dave Ramesy bankrupted himself he's an idiot

@pixler4208

19 күн бұрын

I also wonder if he'll do it again lol

@isaacchassman6453

19 күн бұрын

@@jeremyhartsell2750 yeah its obvious they are still stuck in that experience from the past

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

17 күн бұрын

@@pixler4208 Of course he's an idiot. He's American. However it would take a lot to bankrupt himself now given that he's nearly a billionaire.

Solution STOP GIVIVING OUT UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS, WELFARE, FOODSTAMPS

A lot of women won’t want to marry someone without a degree even if they make 150k. They will still look at men without college or post grad as trashy.

verner bets his ass gerald scotts surplus served mass carbon copy gas

Dave is such a joke. Literally started off ripping on Mike Rowe. Left out mikes his intro to talk about himself.... dude is something else.

Mike Rowe and Dave Ramsey., telling inspiring youth you don’t need an education to make them more money. 😂

Why is Mike Rowe promoting masks on his website? Is this meaning compliance to the government?

College is a joke!!! so glad I’m a dumb welder!!!!

Two of my best buddies are master Powerstroke mechanics. They both make over 200k a year. I'm sure a gender studies degree will do better...

Boomers can revolutionize the funeral home buisness!

90% of Gen Z is marshmallow soft. They aren't going to revolutionize anything.

You guys are so lost. The divide in this country is too great for anyone, but about the top twenty percent, to survive too long. Homelessness is a revolution and unless we fix our bottom line no one's raising the top for anyone below the twenty percent. And we've seen what commitment did to our parents. There's no two way street about it. Work for yourself or be screwed. And less and less people everyday are even able to afford a place to live, much less a tradesman. And you want to talk about medical care? It's horrifically adorable that you think there's any kind of hope for the future other than the inevitable end of capitalism: monopolies, slaves, masters, prisoners, wardens. You want hope for the future? Quit buying into this present. And as a tradesman, that sun is cooking. More than it ever has. And it gets worse every year. Want to be a tradesman? Welcome to skin cancer, an energy drain for anything else in life, and of course, insurance and taxes stealing most of your money with nothing to show for it. Gen z sure is gonna keep buying in! It's gonna be great! If you want people to buy into society, give them a society worth buying into. No one has that right now

All I ever heard growing up is, “I’ve never met a poor plumber.” It’s not like that anymore. You guys touch on everything but the lousy pay. Where are welders making $120,000 a year? Where are you getting these numbers? Because the national average is $23 an hour. I don’t care how many hours you’re working, there’s no way in hell you’re breaking 6 figures on $23 an hour. Every plumber I’ve ever met including myself are living paycheck to paycheck. Kids, stay in school and get a degree in something marketable. Or you’ll end up like me, working like a dog and living in a broken down shack.

60 years ago, a farmer repaired his tractor...but wasn't a mechanic. A dad swapped out his failing hot water tank without the aid of a contractor. A mom and wife tinkered with the plug and element on the toaster to get it to work again. None of these people would necessarily go to work in a field of expertise they needed to repair their day to day items. They had a knowledge that wasn't pigeon holed to be specific or specialized. They were as capable at their day to day chore as they were at taking care of MANY of their needs. Todays children have an almost abstract concept of what work is. Of what practical common sense is and what is real and what is imaginary. Drop the electric grid, eliminate fuel, and kill all forms of communication transmission. There would be chaos so out of control, while grandpa and grandma sit on the porch rocking reading a good book. The grands would not only survive, they would thrive because they know how to.

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