9:48 Belos wasn't negating the Collector's powers. The Collector just assumed he could bring Luz back to life

@masterphaser9540

6 ай бұрын

The collector was significantly weaker while being ‘infected’ I guess, so it probably did something to their powers

@galfinsp7216

6 ай бұрын

Titan magic (which is stated to counter archivist archivist magic) combined with the infection of Belos’ goo sounds like it’d do the trick.

@dragosandrei8505

6 ай бұрын

in season 2 the collector move the moon easily and in the finale he was unable to hold a building

@luiginumbers6268

6 ай бұрын

@@dragosandrei8505that was probably his physical strength, not the magic he used to move the moon because his magic was being negated by belos

@keithherbert7151

6 ай бұрын

It is comfirmed that titan magic can negate collector magic belos didn’t have those powers before tapping into the titan so he kind of did stop his powers also he telekinetically moved the moon he didn’t just push it with his hands

There is also Stringbean being her Palisman allows her to cast magic and it's even implied in the series finale that the two found a way to cast spells.

@infiniteon1834

4 ай бұрын

That is true, but if Anne can land a lucky hit on Stringbean then Luz would be screwed out of her strongest offensive options, and pretty much all her mobility options since even in Titan form she needs Stringbean to fly.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

4 ай бұрын

​@@infiniteon1834which would happen thanks to Anne's speed or telekinesis. Destroying stringbean would not stop Luz's titan magic, but it would stop Luz from quickly amplifying her attacks by drawing bigger circles. And Luz skill in her titan form. And Anne would have a few more options to end the fight.

I can't even imagine this fight in early season 2 if Luz had the glyphs Belos was using like the one that petrified or the one that made the gooey demonic hands. If only we got more Owl House it would've been really interesting to see what other titan magic she could find.

@mh6987

6 ай бұрын

Remember that Titan blood can create rifts between dimensions and create Time Pools. So I think a lot of people are underestimating the powers of a titan. I don't think Luz can beat Anne in their strongest forms.(especially if we talk about future Anne with the powers of that Cat Guardian) But she is still probably wildly stronger than seen in the show. If only we had seen more of it.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@mh6987 that is more hacks and require prep time and it has to be mixed in water for that trick to work . luz has neither used it in battle. anne's calamity gems can also do the same. anne opened a rift between dimenstions as well.

@mh6987

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 and you think she can't create water with all the countless abilities she could have? Also "prep time"? I was referring to her Titan form, I guess I didn't make that clear, so I guess sorry, that's on me. But I'm pretty sure when she's imbued with the powers and properties of a titan in her titan form she won't need prep time to do that. You're also forgetting the Titan is the source of all magic on the boiling isles. It is purely theoretical and hypothetical but it's highly likely she has all those powers in her arsenal when in Titan form, just because she didn't use something doesn't mean she can't do it, she only had a few brief minutes with that form on screen after all.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@mh6987 Anne what makes you think Anne couldn't follow in after her with her speed. Anne has a lot of abilities and AOE that could counter a lot Luz's abilities. Like how she can create/summon her constructs anytime and into anything she wants while luz needs to create circles just to make her spells work or amplify them (the bigger the circle, the stronger the spell).

@mh6987

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 all in all if we take these hypothetical theories as truth to high ball Luz. It would be a battle between Hax and strength. Luz would have way too many Hax abilities to keep track of, while Anne would have too much strength and power to keep up with. I guess the question should be "Are those abilities capable of affecting Anne?" And we definitely have no clear cut answer for that, they can work on a cosmic being like the Collector but that might be a bit too specific too scale to.

I love Amphibia, I really love the fact that the show didn't shoe in a love interest for Anne. It's always good to a see a female character whose love life is left ambiguous. Sometimes it feels like writers are fixated on making sure all of the female characters in a story have a love interest.

@zememerr2329

6 ай бұрын

Lumity felt pretty natural in the Owl House though, and Dana Terrace has gone on record saying the Owl House isn’t a romance story

@santosic

6 ай бұрын

It was an interesting choice for sure that even when it flashed forward, none of the girls had a confirmed love interest either way. Were they seeing someone then? Possibly. Likely, even. But they left it open-ended. And then on the other side of that spectrum, we know what will likely happen not just with Luz and Amity, but also Eda and Raine... and yet, that elevates that show's story too.

@k0metz590

4 ай бұрын

@@zememerr2329 True, Lumity was quite a natural, but unfortunately it (alongside Hunter) took up screen time from other characters like Willow and Gus I still like the ship tho

One of the most requested DEATH BATTLEs right now because of it being in the Tournament of Champions. It has a high chance of happening in Season 11 because of the crew loving the match up.

@vgmarkis

6 ай бұрын

I didn't even know it was in that tournament :0. That'd be sick if it happened later on though!

I think the show did a big disservice to Luz when comparing her power level since we never actually got to see the full potential of Luz and Stringbean. There were just hints at what Stringbean could do with her insane magic blast and "worked something out" with letting Luz use magic. Stringbean was also able to (mostly) block a full blast from Titan Belos. As for her Titan powers, in theory she would be able to do every magical feet we have seen in the show with ease since all magic (and life!) came from the Titan. And that's not counting whatever powers the Titan had on top of that. Titan blood can create doorways to other dimensions after all. Although their powers are still probably weaker then those shown by the Collector. Overall against Anne, I think Luz would have a fighting chance, but anymore then that sadly is into speculation. In the end though, if Anne was to use all 3 gems she would still die herself.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Anne's energy constructs, shockwaves and speed counters a lot of each other's powers

@keithherbert7151

6 ай бұрын

I don’t think so as Anna’s power constructs we’re not that strong now as for string beans destructive power at her weakest state then I don’t think that the energy constructions would work and even so be speed feats can match teleportation and and telekinesis would work either way sense luz can basically do that to with her wind power or just blast it also her shock waves weren’t that power sense it was pushing a toads as it’s high and like said before every spell we have seen in the show she can do all she needs is to properly imagine it

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@keithherbert7151 a lot of those feats like her shockwaves were in Anne's weaker form, the form she got in the final episode are way stronger. Anne could basically make whatever she wants with those constructs with greater AOE than Luz has. That spell that covered the boiling isles required Luz to make several giant circles in the air. Anne could create her constructs whenever and wherever she wants. Well both have the same tricks. Both can fly, survive in space, amplify their attacks and fight at range.

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

The guardian could just revive Anne lol.

Overall, while Luz was shown to be powerful with her glyph magic and her palisman Stringbean, I ultimately think that Calamity Anne with just a portion of her calamity powers still has Luz beat. As for Titan Luz against Calamity Anne at full power, it's actually pretty close with the slight edge going to Anne. Plus, Anne using the power of all 3 calamity stones far outclassed Luz at her most powerful.

@louzo5175

6 ай бұрын

yee, luzes powers are plentifull but.. too specific thus too limited!

@god_2.0_the_better_version

6 ай бұрын

I suppose, but just remember that just the *blood* of a titan is powerful enough to tear open portals to other dimensions. Luz didn't even know how to properly use magic and still did a shit ton of damage. Fully trained, I bet that kinda power could destroy entire worlds. Titans are basically gods, so it's a god vs god fight, but I think that neither of them would win because before it could even finish Luz and Marcy would end up fan girling the hell out of anime over in the corner. (Nobody knows how they got there during the middle of a fight but they're there for literal days)

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@god_2.0_the_better_version Anne's gems also tear portals between realms. And that was like 20-50 of her power that helped open that portal. Anne fully trained can be the guardian of the multiverse.

@god_2.0_the_better_version

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 I know. I'm saying that *just* the blood of a Titan is able to do that. I'm nor arguing with who's more powerful I just stated Luz is a lot more powerful than people are giving her credit for

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@god_2.0_the_better_version ok

Although, this battle didn't make it into the Tournament of Champions for DeathBattle, there's a chance this could still happen. This would be awesome to see. I imagine them both coming back from death only once, and then continue fighting until one of them dies. Anne for the win!

@-adolfo-

6 ай бұрын

It's been confirmed tho that Anne vs Luz will in fact happen in the next season of Death Battle so there's that!

@santosic

6 ай бұрын

@@-adolfo- They gotta reference the fact that they've both technically died in their series in their battle lol. Maybe have a moment where it seems like one of them won and then, they come back in their mega form. They can probably do that with Luz; have Calamity Anne obliterate her with her blue blast, and then Luz comes back in Titan form and the fight continues haha.

@jaxcraft2848

6 ай бұрын

@@-adolfo- Wait? What!? When did they confirm this?

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

@@santosicthe Titan can only rev Luz once, via sacrificing himself. The guardian can revive Anne as much as they want. No matter how much you lowball Anne Luz can’t win this.

Good to see you're doing these VS. again. I personally think that Titan Luz would theoretically gain the upper hand

@Jules416

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you 100% on that!!! 💯💯💯

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I think Anne wins the majority. She is stronger, faster and more durable with better hacks AOE range and weapons. They seem even in biq and experience. Anne can also use her powers anywhere.

@DIEFORME173

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943same here

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@DIEFORME173 thanks.

@megaedeath8063

6 ай бұрын

​@@frogfishsuperzero7943 base to base Luz is island level with ftl+ scaling and Anne is multi city block level with ftl scaling with super forms Luz is dwarf star level to galaxy level whilst Anne is just planetary

Glad to see this. Shoutout to you for the effort in this video.

Seeing the thumbnail, it would actually be really cool to see, not only seeing an epic battle along super ghost Molly, but I can also picture a final battle towards a powerful enemy in which they join forces and the final blow begins in their ultra transformed form, something comparable to the super Mario movie final star battle o.o

@santosic

6 ай бұрын

The only reason I'd expect them to bring in all three of their super-powered forms in the same extended episode at the same time would be so that they can come together in the final battle. If they didn't do that, the episode would be a disappointment even if we get an epic fight between the three of them lol. I mean, that is the power of a crossover between powerful characters isn't it? :)

Ah yes, the iconic invincibility glyph😂

I’ve considered this Versus. Not as much as Anne vs Steven Universe, but I’ve thought about it. You make a lot of good points that I’ve considered myself. The unfortunate part is Luz didn’t really get a proper exploration of her full powers at the end of the series, so the most we can do is speculation on her part. Titan Luz essentially can do anything she wants since she has unlimited access to all magic of the isles. She can be super strong, fast, have magic barriers. You’re right Stringbean is probably her most powerful asset as it allows her to use magic without glyphs and can shapeshift into whatever she needs. That magic blast I don’t think means anything. I think that was just the magic bursting outwards when Strongbean was born. One issue I have though is, Luz’s Titan form was even more limited than Anne’s. Anne could at least call upon her form when she really needed to, but Luz only got that form from the Titan and had it even shorter than Anne. No time limits though? It’s hard to say, cuz while Anne has the power of a god, technically, so does Luz, since a Titan seems to have command over their own world of control of the natural elements, space, time, and afterlife is anything to go by. Ultimately, I think Anne wins this fight, simply because she can do what Luz can and possibly more and she has had a lot more time to learn these powers, plus I think she showed off more of what she can do than Luz did. Of course if you disagree with me, that’s fine. Like I said, there’s a lot of variables that unfortunately weren’t explored on Luz’s part and left mostly to speculation. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

@louzo5175

6 ай бұрын

i think it also depended alot on the soursers of the tranformation, while annes sourse of calamity powers is that inbetween diamentions omniknowing thing, luz's sourse is a titan, that already got beaten, killed, overpowered n tricked so doing something that is 10 times stronger then a collector w magic intact wouldnt make sense bc he got defeted by em in the first place

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

​@@louzo5175Both Anne and Luz have outliers that would put them much higher. Personally I don't think Luz could scale to the collector because their magic just cancels out their power. Eda, king and raine and kind fended off the same moss that weakened the collector. Anne also draws from the guardian, a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the three gems were unlimited power. But that moon feat is a pretty big outlier. I would say Luz is about continental (the titan's corpse was said to be the size of Vermont with dwarf star-galaxy level ap as an outlier. And 1 gem Anne in the finale is Planetary and three stone Anne is high universe possibly multiversal as outliers.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Well both a few of the same abilities, both can fly, survive in space, adapt on the fly, amplify their attacks and fight at range.

@thedarknessinthelight9824

6 ай бұрын

​@@frogfishsuperzero7943Eh, considering the feats shown in the series I'd actually put 1 stone Anne at Multi-Continental and 3 Stone Anne at Moon level (Since she struggled with destroying it).

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@thedarknessinthelight9824 I would put one gem Anne at planetary for helping hold back the moon and 3 stone Anne at large Planetary for destroying the moon in it's entirety possibly three stone Anne is high universe+ because the three stone guardian said the gems were unlimited power. The guardian is a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse and he created the gems in the first place to see how mortals could handle unlimited power as well as find a worthy success for the watcher of the multiversal so he can retire.

Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, i wonder what conclusion Death Battle will reach when they eventually get into this Matchup? By the way, how about covering Luz Noceda vs Steven Universe? If you haven’t covered it already that is?

finally we have this. we need to know which show is better!!!

The Owl House started out better than Amphibia, but as things progressed for both shows, Amphibia arguably became better.

@BenDaresAll

6 ай бұрын

Have to agree. Amphibia needs more support tho

@leatonjenkins6810

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, the problem is that Dinsey killed and rushed the Owl House ending, so we never got to truly see Luz develop well as a character, unlike Anne, who was able to grow as not just an individual but also a better understanding of her powers. At the same time, Luz was given a limited arsenal and skillset due to the shows, making her very weak and not truly allowing her 1v1 battles to see how strong she gets in the future.

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

@@leatonjenkins6810Titan Luz would’ve been her peak either way.

@leatonjenkins6810

6 ай бұрын

@@R.W.P. true but it would’ve been nice to see LuZ get more experience and training with her glyphs and Stringbean since Anne was able to get a special season back home before going back to Amphibia where we only got three episodes in season 3.

@Uzi_Doorman.17

4 ай бұрын

I like the Owl House more though because its based of my favorite anime, Little Witch Academia

Therewolf Media made a song about this fight. It was called “Titans of Calamity”.

Honestly Luz’s best chance against Anne is when there both in base she’d probably win base to base but I don’t think calamity Anne at full power is losing to titan Luz although it’s still close

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I think in base to base they are pretty even in speed and stamina being able to perform or scale to people who can dodge lasers and light glyphs with better leeway for Anne thanks to her strength, agility and manuverability. Also Anne can tap into her calamity powers without fully transforming.

Once again western animation proves that nowadays it understands what makes a great Isekai better then the Japanese do. It's just amazing that so many Isekai that come out now feel like hollow wishfulment fantasy with protagonist with little to no personality or motivation besides exploring. The last great Isekai I saw from Japan was Welcome to Demon School Iruma-kun. When it comes to these shows they mark all my boxes for what I need in a good Iseka such as.... 1.) Connect the world's together 2.) Give a protagonist a proper backstory and motivation to either stay or want to leave 3.) Have a specific reason for the protagonist to end up in another 4.) Make them being from another world impact there experience 5.) Have them talk about there life back home

Good job, you made Wiz and Boomtick's research easier for them.

also I wanna see Amity Vs Sasha (minus the calamity form) same with Marcy Vs Willow I think those would be cool since their like sister shows but maybe we could have Gus Vs Sprig which would be strange

I think that, despite que ultra level up of Luz's Titan Form... Anne still getting the win. Let me explain: Both of them are good in different areas. Luz has the variety advantage and a more strategic-like mindset, while Anne has destructive power and is more skilled in hand to hand combat. While one has to die to come back with a super form, the other one can invoke it with a deadly time limit. Opposites. However, here comes the the power level thing: Anne has a MEGA energy supply, which can destroy a planet and even open a portal (with just ONE of the stones, BTW), not mentioning that her strength, speed and durability are way too superior. The Boiling Islands glifts are ok, but they're just elemental powers. Illusions, flora, mud, fire, ice... Nothing that Anne can't actually handle, just slowing her down for a little. Luz in Titan Form could try to use time travel with her blood, but that takes some prep time that Anne can use to beat her. The only spell I think could kill Boonchuy is the Petrification one. I mean, yeah, it's deadly, but I think it could only be useful against normal and Super Anne. Even if it could beat Calamity Anne, it is a canon fact that the Guardian want her to die of old age, so for him it wouldn't be problem bring Anne back to life, meanwhile Titan Luz has a time limit too, letting Anne the chance to finish her.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

Ай бұрын

this is my entire arguement for this fight. Tell me what you think. 1.speed I would say in their base forms are around even in speed and stamina by performing feats or scaling to people who dodged lasers and light glyphs. With Anne given better leeway thanks to her strength, agility and manuverability. Although, Anne's calamiy form gives Anne a big speed boost while Luz's titan power doesn't. And Anne is more mobile with her flight. 2. Durability Magic from the owl house comes from the bile sacs in their hearts as a power source. It doesn't really translate to durablity, or strength. Anne's calamity forms and attacks weaponizes the gem's power as a source. Meaning Anne's durability must scale to to her dc. 3. Abilities I know both have the same tricks like flight, energy blasts, amplifying their attacks, fighting at range etc. I would believe titan Luz is much more versatile with her abilities. But Anne has also a lot of versatility and are abilities Luz just doesn't have. Like creating constructs of whatever she wants, flooding energy into stuff, coating her energy with her weapons to increase their speed, strength and durability, or into her fists to increase her punches or make shockwaves around herself, telekinesis/energy shield (can call her sword, and sent Sasha and marcy back to earth after creating a forcefield around them). Shooting lightning like projectiles, slowing her perception of time, after image creation, or even slicing something up just by touching it (like she did to that avacado). And with Anne's superior speed, she could apply any of these options or counter a lot of Luz's. Anne also can craft/summon her constructs easily while Luz has to create circles to even allow her powers to work. Both Anne's constructs and shockwaves create a greater aoe in a shorter amount of time. Luz could possibly kill Anne with the petrfication power if given an opportunity. Tho the never used it in battle. Even then Anne could just as easily flood Luz with energy or electricity. And since those attacks are pure energy with no physical composition, Luz can't petrify them. Luz may be able to amplify her strength with the glyphs but she is not a physical fighter and is not as trained in combat as Anne is. 4. Experience Through their months on the boiling isles, both Anne and Luz are fairly evenly experienced and resourceful fighters that could not surprise the other with what they have seen before. But despite Luz's IQ and tactics and Anne's resourcfulness and manuverability more or less matched each other, Anne has used her calamiy powers more than Luz ever did with her titan form. So Anne technically has more experience in super transformations like titan Luz. But iq, biq and experience alone would not end this fight seeing both have fought was older foes with much more experienced than them. 4. Location. One of the things fans gloss over that I find funny is the fact that glyphs don't work outside of the boiling isles. Magic has to be near titan blood to work otherwise they are pretty much worthless. Anne on the other hand can use her calamity powers anywhere she wants, even if she was separated from the gems in another dimension. So even if this fight took place in entirely neutral territory, the victor would not change, Anne's powers would still work while Luz's glyphs would not. So this fight has to be in the demon realm. Anywhere else Luz gets slammed. 5. Strength Both Anne and Luz have outliers that would put them much higher. Personally I don't think Luz could scale to the collector because their magic just cancels out their power. Eda, king and raine and kind fended off the same moss that weakened the collector. Anne also draws from the guardian, a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the three gems were unlimited power. But that moon feat is a pretty big outlier. I would say Luz is about continental (the titan's corpse was said to be the size of Vermont with dwarf star-galaxy level ap as an outlier. And 1 gem Anne in the finale is Planetary and three stone Anne is high universe possibly multiversal as outliers. 6. Opinion I would say Anne with win high diff. One of the wincons I see is Anne taking and destroying stringbean via speed blitz or telekinesis (palismen can be destroyed, that was proven by flapjack). Destroying string bean would not stop Luz's titan magic, but it would stop Luz from amplifying her attacks and AOE quickly. and one anne takes care of stringbean anne has a few more options than just speed blitzing luz, she could just as easily flood her energy into luz, slice her to pieces or just trap her within an energy shield and send her away. Luz could win in some scenarios with IQ and versatility. But I think Anne wins the majority with strength, speed, durability, hacks, combat experience, AOE, range and weapons.

for non-Titan Luz to win against Calamity Anne she would have to draw out her time limit. Otherwise Anne is stronger. Ive recently being thinking of Beast Boy vs Moon Girl for a more even match Plastic Man vs Jake the Dog

@frogfishsuperzero7943

3 ай бұрын

They would not know of each other's time limit

I hope this becomes a death battle episode

I guess we'll find out who wins in death Battle season 11 because they said they will make this matchup and they said earlier hopefully while the shows are relevant to the fans

I believe it would be a sparing duel. I would like to see them as Yin and Yang: 2 opposite forces that balance and complete each other.

@santosic

6 ай бұрын

I mean, they kind of are when it comes to their respective storylines as their character arcs go in opposite directions. You truly notice this the most when you try to swap the main characters around. Put Luz in Amphibia and Anne in The Boiling Isles and keep the storylines the same and you quickly start to see how they go in opposite directions. Just another thing that makes them sister shows :)

Honestly, youve convinced me on all parts. Sound logic, id say i agree. Also, i think start of series Anne vs start if series Luz (no powers) id be willing to bet on winning that. Luz has the weak nerd arms while anne has the tennis build lol

This better be a Death Battle in the future!

One of the difficulty factors of this possible Death Battle is the "external factors". Both Anne and Luz has beings that assist them in being able to gain the powers and forms plus their is internal fandom debatable parts for one of them. For Anne the series began with her heart gem Calamity powers that is hidden inside her so that's hers 'internally'. However outside of her powered blue hair form the full "Calamity Warriors" form was granted either because she reabsorbed her full blue powers back inside her or it was as Marcy put it some sort of unity bonus. Now Marcy was guessing and using a video game format to explain the power boost though the reality could just of been that the gems color powers was put into them fully once more. If that's the case then that can count as internal powers of Anne. However if not and both Sasha and Marcy must be around to get that bonus then that is external factors. Anne's almost god power forbidden form requires the other two gems with her own to assess it (now they are extremal but Anne could get assess to them if written in the Death Battle story). Now in that form Anne is very powerful but it comes at a cost. That cost being her human body breaking down leading to death as the human body wasn't made or able to handle that power. Now we have one last possible "External factor" for Anne but I'll save that for later and go to Luz now. Luz's magic glyphs and assess to it came from the Boiling isles/the Titan. The magic those glyphs use comes from the Titan's blood that barely remained when Luz entered. She tried a few spells but her main was mostly the Light, Ice, Plant, Fire, Hover, and Invisibility ones. This gives Luz a nice assortment of magic she can use and I'll consider this internal factor as it's her own in a way. There are two "External factors" for Luz are: String Bean and The Titan the conscience individuals beings. Now String Bean is Luz's Palisman so while a individual being it can count as being's Luz's and be part of the battle as well. For Luz's Titan form this is where it gets tricky as that was power the dying Titan gave her at the cost of the Titan going away to the afterlife (pulled down into the waters where if completely submerged not even the Titan can resurrect then), Luz having a limit time to have that form, and glyph magic being unusable afterwards (till King gets older and stronger). Luz meeting the Titan personally can only happen by death or sent to the realm in between This is a external factor more so then any other as the Titan was a individual character lending it's power to Luz directly to make that for and abilities possible. So if the Titan form thus the Titan itself can be counted for Luz this opens a door to another External factor possibly on Anne's end. The Guardian of the Multiverse. This being is what made the gems in the first place. It is a possible cosmic Multiverse level (or higher) God and Guardian of the Disney Multiverse This being's true form mentally can't be handled by mortals. This being wants Anne to replace it and all it's powers and other factors to her. Now with this External Factor" on Anne's end is where confusion really kicks in. It has been debated by fans (part for fun and part in seriousness) if The Guardian truly resurrected Anne or a clone/new being body & soul of "Anne Boonchuy". If it did truly resurrect Anne then on her side is an infinity lives vs Luz's one second chance from the Titan. Not even counting if Anne will becoming the Goddess of the Disney Multiverse (based on a forum post where Brady was asked it seems 'yes' is the answer but nothing truly 'canon' set in stone yet if ever). Because of the ambiguity factors of both "The Guardian" and "Anne Boonchuy" from the Amphibia series end it can be a debatable hassle if that External factor is apart of this Death Battle. Now the final idea in my mind I would like to post is a possible Death Battle Storyline for Anne and Luz to have a Death Battle. Influenced by Marvel's Incursion storylines in the comics and a "Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal II" storyline about world's colliding. Many early Death Battles the two characters appeared and just begin clashing to the death. Recently a more scripted storyline per episode has begun in the episodes making reasons why two might clash and displaying the character's personalities a bit more. The idea I have is like those storylines from Marvel and Yu-Gi-Oh the three worlds (Earth, the planet that has the continent of Amphibia on it, and the Planet that has the Boiling Isles on it) was discovered to be at risk of colliding. The heroes of both Amphibia and Owl House worked together to find a solution to save the three worlds but in the end are only successful of keeping Earth out of danger but the other two planets approach the roche limit. Not seeing another way (at the time) for Luz and Anne the undesired & unthinkable yet only solution is at their doorstep: to save their beloved world they must destroy the other. To avert the trauma & crushing feelings of guilt from their own friends towards this dark evil task Luz and Anne take solo the full responsibility, weight, and consequences themselves putting them on a direct path to clash with a former ally/friend while the two worlds cracking watches from above. In a twist to how Death Battle starts it begins with the crisis set-up/explanation from an Earth and Owl House news reporter about the three worlds/multiverses being pulled towards each other, how the groups meet and became a team to save the worlds but only able to keep Earth out of harms way, and the last minutes it seems the two worlds have before the gravity of the two worlds shatters each other apart. Anne on her own with the gems she took from the music box unknown by the others is walking by herself on Amphibia and looking up at the approaching Planet to holds the Titan/Boiling Isles on it. Likewise Luz is alone and like a mirror flies over the Boiling Isles giving it a good look and then looking above to the planet that has Amphibia. Each is is not happy but they are also determined to see thou the last option they know of for their beloved world. Lastly in their hearts they knows she's going to see Luz/Anne once more but this time it won't be friends. Anne goes over what she knows generally about Luz from their adventure that resulted in the one success they had saving Earth but not the other two planets (begins the information phase of Death Battle for Luz told by Anne). Afterwards shifting over the viewers find Luz is doing the same thing for what she generally knows about Anne and her abilities. Once done with the evaluations towards each other the planets begin to rumble by the planets proximity indicating how close and lack of time the two have. The two ready themselves and fly off ready to meet once more in the middle proclaiming they are set and this will end once and for all. It's time for a DEATH BATTLE. Unknown to the two however is Marcy just got an idea (not a great one as it might require a grave sacrifice Marcy doesn't know she can give willingly) worked out with the two casts to be able save the two continents of Amphibia and the Boiling Isles but this unplanned deadly battle for just one planet taking the two casts by surprise might ruin it all... (I'm going to stop here but if anyone is actually interested to what Marcy's idea is and the conclusion in my mind is then I'll try to write some more at a later time. On a side note a Disney Multiverse Goddess Anne (whose then humanoid form (which I enjoy seeing the fanarts designs of) is also not then her true form) if she did become as such would for me personally be interesting to see how that learning phases of her Goddess phase be like. After learning and becoming the human embodiment of responsibility from her character growth in the series her move forward to the next phase of her learning how to care for a whole Disney multiverse (the Aquarium is her starting on a smaller scale of her creating, taking care of, and education others of the many creatures and their habits) with her trying her best, clashing with other cosmic powers, and making mistakes (though a Goddess making mistakes/trials can have consequences). Plus the crossover and lore potentials.)

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

The amphibia multiverse is infinite both said in the show and marcy's journal. And since there are plenty of cameos in amphibia inside the owl house and owl house inside amphibia, they should have the same cosmology.

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943Toh shares comoslogy with GF with has 11Dimensuons however no TOH characters scale to it featwise. Cause they’ve never left their universe.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@R.W.P. amphibia, the owl house and gravity falls have tons of references in each other, implying they have the same cosmology.

@Jaiverse

4 ай бұрын

This is awesome.

@R.W.P.

4 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 even if their in the same multiverse TOH characters do not have any feats or statements scaling them to outside cosmology.

This is just the martial vs spellcaster debate all over again

we cant forget she beat AN ENTIRE NATION THAT COULD WALK.

at first Anne would win due to Muay thai skills and her general fitness (I mean before Amphibia/Boiling isles gals) also I think Anne would be able to hear/sense luz with invisibility

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I think Anne could counter her invisibility with the shockwaves she could spam at will.

Maybe you could do godzilla from godzilla vs kong vs the dragon belos thing from the last episode if you are interested

I'd argue a bit more on behalf of Luz. She'd still probably lose to Anne once she uses all the calamity stones but it's still fun. I do need to note that most of this hasn't been shown, it's just a theory and purely hypothetical. If she did gain all the powers and properties of a Titan, that would allow her to use countless different haxes and spells seen throughout the boiling isles since the Titan is the origin/source of all magic there, +remember the properties of Titan blood, even a drop of it can tear open rifts between dimensions, but the more impressive thing if you ask me are the time pools, it was explained that Titan blood was the thing that originally created the time pools which would allow Luz to time travel. So theoretically she could go back in time and beat Anne before she activates her calamity form. But that's all just purely hypothetical, in reality I can't imagine a scenario in which Luz is blood thirsty enough to kill Anne. XD

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

That is more hacks. And she has to mix it with water first. Anne won't give her time.

@mh6987

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 Titan's have natural access to going between realms. You can see that with how the Titan trapped the collector in the in-between realm. So no water mixing needed in that case.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

​@@mh6987we have little context on how he sealed him, even then Luz does not know how to do that move.

@mysticalaces8623

6 ай бұрын

Technically they'd both lose since Anne using every calamity stone would kill her after one attack (though Luz can just go invisible and so Anne won't be able to see/hit her with the suicide attack)

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@mysticalaces8623 that sinerio on Anne dying relied on her using up all of the gems power I to one attack. If that form is anything like her other ones but amped she could do the same things. Anne's Omni-directional shockwaves and area of effect explosions should be able to find Luz. She is only invisible as long as she holds her breath.

Sir VG: and yes... They can't beat Goku Us: LOFAO

That seems accurate also I swear to God I thought you make a video about this I got my own collateral affect right now overall good video 😊💙💙🦉🐸

I would give anything to see these two fight alongside each other against Bill Cipher.

Let's just wait for death battle to give this battle a chance

I’d reckon that such a duel would be mainly dependent on if Anne gets access to all three Calamity Gems or just the Blue gem alone. Primarily because while it’s supposed to be a 1v1 match up, Anne only ever reached her full Calamity power when she was also with Sasha & Marcy after they freshly got their powers + the whole “Synergy Buff” between the three gems being in proximity to each other. Sure there’s Anne’s “White Calamity Form” when she did use all three Gems by herself, but then lies the risk of it turning into a draw if successfully used against Titan Luz (provided Luz isn’t fast enough via Stringbean to evade or cannot tank the blast via Titan Glyph Shields) cause using that much power would just kill Anne anyway. So again, this match up is highly dependent of if she has all the Calamity Gems from the very start.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

that sinerio relied on using up all of the gem's power in one attack. if her three stone form is anything like her other ones but amped. do anything she wants to luz

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Actually Anne could use her full calamity power because all she needs is the two other gems and use them in tandem. Also titan Luz also outside help.

If we’re talking abt fully taking over the titan then belos is more powerful then the core as that would make belos around the same size as the core moon, plus he could act as a meteor and destroy entire planets on collision and plus he could still very well survive and do this to other planets unlike the cores one and done sorta thing.

Anne's shoe has infinite durability, The shoe solo's both of these verses

Ngl instead of fighting I think Anne and Luz would become quick friends. They both went on life changing adventures and ended up loving the world they were trapped in, had the villain possess their friends, and become overly OP in the finale. Also, they both gave their lives to save the people they loved. And before you fuckers say “that’s why TOH is a cOpY oF AmPhIbIA”, they’re sister shows.

One Punch Anne!! Loved the video, but one thing that could turn the tides of Blue Eyes Anne vs Season 2 Luz, the blue eyes may be an indication of some kind of danger sense, considering the instances when it activates, and it was actually able to completely dodge the Veggie-Robo's stomp without looking at it, so maybe if Luz used a fire or ice attack, Anne could just get out of the way, thanks to Calamity powers. It looked like in the clip of Luz destroying that forest that her friends were able to dodge, so... Plus, at that point in Season 2, Anne had already blocked the Chickalisk's Petrification Beam and dodged Frobo's laser, so fire and ice should be no problem.

The secret spell is a suicide move. Luz's only chance of winning would be to dodge that blast (which she could reasonably do). Thing is I don't think Ann would ever have to resort to that.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Even in that form, that scenario relied on Anne using up all the gems power into a single attack and using up all of its power. If that form is anything like her other ones, she could do more than just a giant blast.

@mysticalaces8623

6 ай бұрын

In that case it would be more of a draw scenario since they would both die (assuming luz with the titan's power isnt strong enough to counteract it)

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@mysticalaces8623 I don't think Luz is strong enough to counter react it. Anne would still win first though. I dont think Luz scales to the collector.

Planet-level being vs Multiverse-level being, not even close.

@Michael_Myers594

6 ай бұрын

A lot of people say Luz scales to the Collector even though I think she is just collector prof a lot of other people say the opposite so that probably make Luz high universal

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

​@@Michael_Myers594Both Anne and Luz have outliers that would put them much higher. Personally I don't think Luz could scale to the collector because their magic just cancels out their power. Eda, king and raine and kind fended off the same moss that weakened the collector. Anne also draws from the guardian, a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the three gems were unlimited power. But that moon feat is a pretty big outlier. I would say Luz is about continental (the titan's corpse was said to be the size of Vermont with dwarf star-galaxy level ap as an outlier. And 1 gem Anne in the finale is Planetary and three stone Anne is high universe possibly multiversal as outliers.

I would say Luz wins in some circumstances but I think Anne wins the majority. Spoilers for both shows. Plus this post is very long you have been warned... 1.speed I would say in their base forms are around even in speed and stamina by performing feats or scaling to people who dodged lasers and light glyphs. With Anne given better leeway thanks to her strength, agility and manuverability. Although, Anne's calamiy form gives Anne a big speed boost while Luz's titan power doesn't. And Anne is more mobile with her flight. In Marcy's journal, Anne said that time moves slow for her. 2. Durability Magic from the owl house comes from the bile sacs in their hearts as a power source. It doesn't really translate to durablity, or strength. Anne's calamity forms and attacks weaponizes the gem's power as a source. Meaning Anne's durability must scale to to her dc. 3. Abilities I know both have the same tricks like flight, amplifying their attacks, fighting at range etc. I would believe titan Luz is much more versatile with her abilities. But Anne has also a lot of versatility and are abilities Luz just doesn't have. Like creating constructs of whatever she wants, flooding energy into stuff, coating her energy with her weapons to increase their speed, strength and durability, or into her fists to increase her punches or make shockwaves around herself, telekinesis/energy shield (can call her sword, and sent Sasha and marcy back to earth after creating a forcefield around them). Shooting lightning like projectiles, slowing her perception of time, after image creation, or even slicing something up just by touching it (like she did to that avacado). And with Anne's superior speed, she could apply any of these options or counter a lot of Luz's. Anne also can craft/summon her constructs easily while Luz has to create circles to even allow her powers to work. Both Anne's constructs and shockwaves create a greater aoe in a shorter amount of time. Luz could possibly kill Anne with the petrfication power if given an opportunity. Tho the never used it in battle. Even then Anne could just as easily flood Luz with energy or electricity. And since those attacks are pure energy with no physical composition, Luz can't petrify them. Luz may be able to amplify her strength with the glyphs but she is not a physical fighter and is not as trained in combat as Anne is. 4. Experience Through their months on the boiling isles, both Anne and Luz are fairly evenly experienced and resourceful fighters that could not surprise the other with what they have seen before. But despite Luz's IQ and tactics and Anne's resourcfulness and manuverability more or less matched each other, Anne has used her calamiy powers more than Luz ever did with her titan form. So Anne technically has more experience in super transformations like titan Luz. But iq, biq and experience alone would not end this fight seeing both have fought was older foes with much more experienced than them. 4. Location. One of the things fans gloss over that I find funny is the fact that glyphs don't work outside of the boiling isles. Magic has to be near titan blood to work otherwise they are pretty much worthless. Anne on the other hand can use her calamity powers anywhere she wants, even if she was separated from the gems in another dimension. So even if this fight took place in entirely neutral territory, the victor would not change, Anne's powers would still work while Luz's glyphs would not. So this fight has to be in the demon realm. Anywhere else Luz gets slammed. 5. Strength Both Anne and Luz have outliers that would put them much higher. Personally I don't think Luz could scale to the collector because their magic just cancels out their power. Eda, king and raine and kind fended off the same moss that weakened the collector. Anne also draws from the guardian, a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the three gems were unlimited power. But that moon feat is a pretty big outlier. I would say Luz is about continental (the titan's corpse was said to be the size of Vermont with dwarf star-galaxy level ap as an outlier. And 1 gem Anne in the finale is Planetary and three stone Anne is high universe possibly multiversal as outliers. 6. Opinion I would say Anne with win high diff. One of the wincons I see is Anne taking and destroying stringbean via speed blitz or telekinesis (palismen can be destroyed, that was proven by flapjack). Destroying string bean would not stop Luz's titan magic, but it would stop Luz from amplifying her attacks and AOE quickly. and one anne takes care of stringbean anne has a few more options than just speed blitzing luz, she could just as easily flood her energy into luz, slice her to pieces or just trap her within an energy shield and send her away. Luz could win in some scenarios with IQ and versatility. But I think Anne wins the majority with strength, speed, durability, hacks, combat experience, AOE, range and weapons.

Anne Boonchuy for the win

“THE BATTLE OF MID”💯💯💯💯

I do agree with a lot of your points and you are really good at powers scaling but I still got Luz at the end because I believe Luz can use her magic in a way to beat Anne.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I believe Luz could win in some sinerios with her IQ and versatilty. But I think Anne wins the majority with strength, speed, durability, hacks, combat, AOE, rang and weapons. They seem even in biq and experience

@louzo5175

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 so, luz has low chances, but she can outsmart anne? sounds right, thats mostly canon to how luz fights overall

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@louzo5175 some sinerios with her IQ and versatilty. But I say Anne wins the majority with strength speed durablity hacks AOE combat range and weapons

Fax and keep up the good work!

Im kinda curious who you'd think would win between Belos vs. Father (Fullmetal Alchemist)

I think this is a more interesting battle when they are in their normal form

I honestly wanna see either collector vs Anne or if I can do animes vigalante deku vs gear 5 luffy

hmmmm, i am salty, but it just sounds RIGHT to me speaks on how really well thought of this video is

These shows are both made by Disney!

@frogfishsuperzero7943

Ай бұрын

And animated by 2 of the same studios

@angrymariocraft8228

Ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 yes, what a great point made!

@frogfishsuperzero7943

Ай бұрын

@@angrymariocraft8228 these two shows have a lot in common

Haven't seen the video yet but Anne wins. Feel free to argue with me if you have the time to spare.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I agree with ya you can read my post if ya want.

I hope that death battle makes a video about this

Who’s stronger? Someone who destroyed a moon or someone who destroyed a country/continent?

What would be the motivation for them to battle, though? Perhaps they both fight to get home?

ehh, i think the final form battle would be a lot closer than you're giving it credit for. if this was just a 1v1, anne wouldn't be as strong as she was in the hardest thing. marcy hypothesised that when her, anne and sasha are all powered up together, they get a synergy boost of sorts, meaning if it were just anne, she wouldn't get that synergy boost, just the heart stone's full strength. i do think anne would still win but itd be close.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

But remember Anne got a lot used to the gems power. So she could probably do the transformations if she had all three stones. Plus marcy also said she was more used to the gem's power than them. Titan Luz was outside help as well if so you know.

Personally think Anne wins this. Has more survival experience, combat training and I think Calamity full power beats titan Luz

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Good opinion, I think Anne is stronger, faster and more durable with better hacks, combat, AOE, range, and weapons.

Anna banana got that on wraps

How about this for a versus battle: Finn and Jake from Adventure Time VS Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show. Two VS Two

I would like to see N (From Murder Drones) fight King Andrias (From Amphibia) specifically Andrias in the mech-suit thing.

I like to imagine this as Majin Vegeta vs goku

"Synergy Buff" Anne could probably take on Titan Luz on her own, sure, but the Synergy Buff only happened when the three girls came together, so this would imply Marcy and Sasha are somewhere and sitting this fight out? Yeah, that kind of tracks, I think; they'd probably be like, "You go, girl, you can take this chump," lol. Regular post-True Colors Anne though, before her Synergy Buff form, might be more evenly matched to Titan Luz. They're both on a time limit for one thing, and Luz has her defensive shield she could use when Anne gets close. Titan Luz can fly pretty fast, too, so I can see them pulling off an Aang vs Ozai moment where one is flying after the other. That'd be fun to see, actually! Could be a pretty funny homage if they did it right 😅

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

But remember Anne was more used to the gems than marcy and Sasha. Anne could likely use the gems if she had all three. Her being the main protagonist means she always keeps the box and the gems with her.

lets be real if these two had a cross over they wont fight they would be good friends

@frogfishsuperzero7943

4 ай бұрын

Yep

What about the Shack-A-Tron VS. Andreas's Mech?

@imaginationinnovationanima4098

6 ай бұрын

Now I know the immediate answer, its Andreas's Mech because the Shack-A-Tron was specifically designed to beat Bill while Andreas's Mech was designed for hand-to-hand combat.

Can you do Queen Beelzebub ( Helluva Boss ) Vs Mammon ( Helluva Boss ) it would be a cool one

I remember when people were comparing blue Anne to luz before titan luz

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Me too

Anne High-Extreme Diffs

*Luz and Anne gangsta till S1 Ghost Molly pulls up with no time limit.* (For context: in the ghost, and Molly McGee season finale, Molly becomes the embodiment of joy and basically one shots å character called the chairman.)

@dragosandrei8505

6 ай бұрын

chairman is only town level-city level and being the embodiment of joy wont scale a character to outer

@phoenixzd5409

6 ай бұрын

@@dragosandrei8505 But it’s a freaking ghost. I don’t think Luz can have any spells that can touch or harm a ghost. Or even Anne with her calamity powers.

the collector vs Bill Cypher would be interesting

@vgmarkis

6 ай бұрын

Already did that lolol

Maybe try Mordecai and rigby vs finn and jake thats a popular matchup in the death battle fandom

I'm still wondering if you're ever gonna do a scaling video on Eda.

There was some things I just thought of imagine all the glyph magic combinations in a second like she could petrify wing teleport in a second if she wanted to and we don’t know if there is a time limit so her form sense technically if she does it again then will have a titans full power aka no time limit though Anna could possibly beat her the and what if Luz could trap Anna like rayan dad did with collector

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Luz doesn't know how to seal someone. And I think Anne's constructs, shockwaves, speed and AOE counters a lot of Luz's arsenal. Luz never used the petrification power in battle, even then Anne could flood Luz with energy or slice her up with electricity and since those attacks are pure energy and have no physical composition, sho could not petrification those attacks. Luz doesn't really have a defense against Anne's telekinesis.

We both know that they would be friends.

Anne>>>>

I think luz and Anne would come to a tie if luzs magic lasted a little longer because luz only had a short time to do everything so she tried to do stuff as fast as she could

@mysticalaces8623

6 ай бұрын

i mean Anne can only last a certain amount of time with one gem, and using the others kills her very quickly where she would only have time to use 1 attack so i feel that they're equal

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

​@@mysticalaces8623Luz also has a time limit. That scenario with three stone Anne relied on Anne using up all of the gems powers into one attack. If that form is anything like her other ones, Anne could do a lot more.

Cool

4:20 It’s over, Anne! Luz has the high ground!

you get it

Just to note, last year I did calculations on Titan Luz’s speed from when she went into orbit and then in 10 seconds came back down and slammed Belos’ monster form. Timing it, T Luz was going Mach 36, 36 times faster than sound.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

3 ай бұрын

well anne would still be faster in her stronger calamity forms. she flew into the atmosphere in 7 seconds (Mach 152) and is probably a lot more faster. in terms of reaction speed, their base forms are pretty comparable, but when the go into their superforms, I think anne is faster. the best I could compare luz to is harpy eda reacting to a light glyph (calced 3.86x faster than light) but anne in her weaker form was moving so fast that lasers around her froze long enough for her to move out of the way (in marcy's journal anne said that time slowed down for her in that form). that feat was calced 3.587x faster than light. these feats seem similar, but that was when anne was in her weaker form, way before she got her stronger forms and got way faster.

1. Anne Boonchuy vs Sonic Movie 2. Akko Kagari vs Luz Noceda Death Battle

End of series Anne wins but its insanely close and both would probably hold back, and become friends at the end.

Personally I disagree The peak of luz’s glyph magic can peak at town level when making gliphs the size of the selkydomess in S2 E1, held said creature back, and kept up with hunter who dodged light based attacks Titan Luz should up scale from the collector who I believe to be star level to constellation level due to the collector moving constellation in his backstory and in general could react to collectors magic The reason titan Luz needed help was because her magic was nearly out and limited due to the fungus made by belos TLDR: I think Luz beats Anne sorry

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I disagreed with your opinion.

@dragosandrei8505

6 ай бұрын

when did luz even destroy a planet let alone a solar system i say shes moon level and belos could be scaled higher then her you use a pathetic statements the collector negs the verse except titan and atchives and if so you could put luz to multi galaxy bc of that stetements thats false

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@dragosandrei8505 Anne were would even be stronger because of Statements. The three stone guardian is the one who created the gems. He is a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the gems were unlimited power. If that being said. Three stone Anne should be in some ballpark of his power. Though like the collector's statements, there are outliers.

@dragosandrei8505

6 ай бұрын

​@@frogfishsuperzero7943ye but those are statements who for now cant be scaled

@dragosandrei8505

6 ай бұрын

​@@frogfishsuperzero7943I was talking about luz mostly since he said luz îs galaxy level💀💀💀💀 I scaled luz to moon level with relativivstic speed and anne to planetary with sol(speed of light)speed could be higher

this is pretty much the disney xd cartoon in 2019 version of superman vs goku. personally i think anne would get sent to the shadow realm, because in "the hardest thing" even with the help of sasha and marcy calamity powers they weren't able to do crap against the core controlled moon, resulting in anne sacrificing her life (not really lol) the other hand titan luz (with the help of eda and king) was able to wipe ALL of belos moss across the boiling isles and don't even get me started on how fast titan luz can go. titan luz is more than likely able to wipe the floor with calamity anne, specially if papa titan had alot more power to give to luz cuz at that point all is gonna be lost for anne. btw this is just my personal opinion also toh ost solos amphibia's ost neg diff

The question you shouldn’t ask who will win in a fight. The question you should be asking whatever one can avoid causalities .

my opinion is this: base luz season1-2(large building-multi city block level)>>>>>>>base anne season 1-2(small building-city block level) with stringbean-town level-small city level)> perfect calamity(multi contitnental) titan luz

If they can't beat Goku, then they don't stand a chance against Kal-El.

BRO I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA MAKE A ANIMATION OF THEM FIGHTING BRO

6:16 months

Can we see the collector versus bill cipher Next

I disagree While there are versions of this fight where Anne could take the win, I believe Luz would win the most often. Sure it’s no secret that, Anne is physically stronger even in her base but her base self didn’t really stand a chance against Luz and her magic glyphs not to mention Luz was a lot smarter. It is only when she went into her super form that everything started to go into her favor and her form could’ve held on against Luz’s Titan form. But the deciding factor would’ve been whose super form would last longer. The calamity form can definitely be on par with the Titan form, and in her secret spell form she can surpass it. But Anne’s super form at max only lasts about five minutes, and in her secret spell form even shorter, because she will eventually die once all her power is used up. Luz’s on the hand can last less than hour and had many ways to maneuver over Anne’s superior power such as teleportation and turning invisible stalling her out long enough for Anne’s power to run out.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

Hey pal how's it been? I would say Luz wins in some circumstances but I think Anne wins the majority. Spoilers for both shows. Plus this post is very long you have been warned... 1.speed I would say in their base forms are around even in speed and stamina by performing feats or scaling to people who dodged lasers and light glyphs. With Anne given better leeway thanks to her strength, agility and manuverability. Although, Anne's calamiy form gives Anne a big speed boost while Luz's titan power doesn't. And Anne is more mobile with her flight. 2. Durability Magic from the owl house comes from the bile sacs in their hearts as a power source. It doesn't really translate to durablity, or strength. Anne's calamity forms and attacks weaponizes the gem's power as a source. Meaning Anne's durability must scale to to her dc. 3. Abilities I would believe titan Luz is much more versatile with her abilities. But Anne has also a lot of versatility and are abilities Luz just doesn't have. Like creating constructs of whatever she wants, flooding energy into stuff, coating her energy with her weapons to increase their speed, strength and durability, or into her fists to increase her punches or make shockwaves around herself, telekinesis/energy shield (can call her sword, and sent Sasha and marcy back to earth after creating a forcefield around them). Shooting lightning like projectiles, slowing her perception of time, after image creation, or even slicing something up just by touching it (like she did to that avacado). And with Anne's superior speed, she could apply any of these options or counter a lot of Luz's. Anne also can craft/summon her constructs easily while Luz has to create circles to even allow her powers to work. Both Anne's constructs and shockwaves create a greater aoe in a shorter amount of time. Luz could possibly kill Anne with the petrfication power if given an opportunity. Tho the never used it in battle. Even then Anne could just as easily flood Luz with energy or electricity. And since those attacks are pure energy with no physical composition, Luz can't petrify them. Anne may be able to amplify her strength with the glyphs but she is not a physical fighter and is not as trained in combat as Anne is. 4. Experience Through their months on the boiling isles, both Anne and Luz are fairly evenly experienced and resourceful fighters that could not surprise the other with what they have seen before. But despite Luz's IQ and tactics and Anne's resourcfulness and manuverability more or less matched each other, Anne has used her calamiy powers more than Luz ever did with her titan form. So Anne technically has more experience in super transformations like titan Luz. But iq, biq and experience alone would not end this fight seeing both have fought was older foes with much more experienced than them. 4. Location. One of the things fans gloss over that I find funny is the fact that glyphs don't work outside of the boiling isles. Magic has to be near titan blood to work otherwise they are pretty much worthless. Anne on the other hand can use her calamity powers anywhere she wants, even if she was separated from the gems in another dimension. So even if this fight took place in entirely neutral territory, the victor would not change, Anne's powers would still work while Luz's glyphs would not. So this fight has to be in the demon realm. Anywhere else Luz gets slammed. 5. Strength Both Anne and Luz have outliers that would put them much higher. Personally I don't think Luz could scale to the collector because their magic just cancels out their power. Eda, king and raine and kind fended off the same moss that weakened the collector. Anne also draws from the guardian, a multiversal cat god who watches over the infinite multiverse. He even said the three gems were unlimited power. But that moon feat is a pretty big outlier. Anne could die if she used all of the gem's power, but remember that sinerios relied on Anne using up all of the gem's power into one attack, if that form is anything like her other ones she could do the same stuff. I would say Luz is about continental (the titan's corpse was said to be the size of Vermont with dwarf star-galaxy level ap as an outlier. And 1 gem Anne in the finale is Planetary and three stone Anne is high universe possibly multiversal as outliers. 6. Opinion I would say Anne with win high diff. One of the wincons I see is Anne taking and destroying stringbean via speed blitz or telekinesis (palismen can be destroyed, that was proven by flapjack). Destroying string bean would not stop Luz's titan magic, but it would stop Luz from amplifying her attacks and AOE quickly. and one anne takes care of stringbean anne has a few more options than just speed blitzing luz, she could just as easily flood her energy into luz, slice her to pieces or just trap her within an energy shield and send her away. Luz could win in some sinerios with IQ and versatility. But I think Anne wins the majority with strength, speed, durability, hacks, combat experience, AOE, range and weapons.

@bosshitmonchan2920

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 Definitely an interesting take, but like I said this fight could go either way it’s just a matter of what you believe

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@bosshitmonchan2920 good point. with both with different power sets, it is interesting to see these to fight.

@bosshitmonchan2920

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 I’m a fan of both shows so I really wouldn’t care that much on who wins though I admit I like Luz just a bit more

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@bosshitmonchan2920 i like your opinion. i am still leaning towards anne though

Also Amphibias entire cast are capable to dodge confirmed lasers. (Confirmed in Marcy’s journals) where Marcy describes the beam the toad statues shoot at “real lasers.” And she far outspends the cast in partial calamity making her a good bit above light speed.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

I would say in their base forms are around even in speed and stamina by performing feats or scaling to people who dodged lasers and light glyphs. With Anne given better leeway thanks to her strength, agility and manuverability. Although, Anne's calamiy form gives Anne a big speed boost while Luz's titan power doesn't. And Anne is more mobile with her flight. Anne in her partially calamity form's laser feat was calculated 3.587 x faster than light. And in that form she is able to speed blitz andrais multiple times. Andrais in his backstory was able to react to lasers and he is comparable to hop pop who moved in tandem with sunlight. This was way before Anne got the other two boosted forms and got way faster.

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 she also turned invisible to him through speed alone which should be MFTL

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@R.W.P. well Anne has speed blitzed andrais, but andrais has tagged her a few times.

@R.W.P.

6 ай бұрын

@@frogfishsuperzero7943 true colors was the only time she was going all out though. When andrias tagged her that’s when she was rationing. They were talking about timing out and everything.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

@@R.W.P. yeah Luz doesn't know anne has a time limit, even then luz has one herself and when it is done, she won't be able to use glyphs. Anne could still reuse her calamity form. Anne dying in her 3 stone form, that scenario relied on her using up all of the gems power into one blast. If that form is anything like her other ones but amped, she could do a lot more.

Could Calamity Anne or Titan Luz take on Thanos with all Infinity Stones ? (I’m not saying Thanos snapping I’m saying Thanos with all Stones going toe to toe against them)

Someone please make a deathbattle

Finally

In my opinion, luz could just keep a vial of titan blood on her so if shes not in titan form, she can uss her glyphs in any world.

@frogfishsuperzero7943

6 ай бұрын

We're would she get a vial of titan blood. There is none on earth or in amphibia.

period