Could a Tankgewehr Really Take Out a British MkIV Tank?

The Tankgewehr antitank rifle was developed by the Mauser company and adopted by the Imperial German military as an emergency measure to counter the introduction of tanks to the WW1 battlefield. The question is, did they really work? Could a 13.2mm AP bullet from a Tankgewehr really perforate the armor of a British tank? Well today we find out!
The armor on a British tank was steel plate of 6mm, 8mm, and 12mm thickness, through-hardened to Brinell 440-480. We have replicated this with a plate of AR450 (ie, Brinell 450) armor, which we will be shooting at a distance of 50 yards. The ammunition we are using is original 1918 production German AP, and the rifle is a Tankgewehr captured by Allied troops late in the war and brought home as a souvenir.
This video was only made possible with help from three very helpful folks:
MOA Targets provided the steel (and on short notice!): www.moatargets.com
Mike Carrick of Arms Heritage Magazine provided use of the T-Gewehr: armsheritagemagazine.com
Hayes Otoupalik provided the original ammunition: www.hayesotoupalik.com
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  • @number3665
    @number36656 жыл бұрын

    Now I know why in Battlefield 1 it always says you must lay down to fire that weapon lol

  • @untakenusernamegoeshere

    @untakenusernamegoeshere

    Ай бұрын

    Okay but why doesn't this comment have a single reply after 11k likes and 6 whole years

  • @Flergenbergen
    @Flergenbergen6 жыл бұрын

    They were copying the british word for "tank," which is "tank." I learn a lot on this channel.

  • @nathanfrench3619

    @nathanfrench3619

    2 ай бұрын

    Tank was the codename for the project (i.e. like a water tank). I think they were developing "landships"

  • @venkmanny4100

    @venkmanny4100

    11 күн бұрын

    That's correct, Germany took the British code word "tank" and just pronounced it German

  • @DeathsLight2024
    @DeathsLight20247 жыл бұрын

    "An Anti-Tank Kit is available near your location."

  • @jeffbruh3253

    @jeffbruh3253

    7 жыл бұрын

    Zeek Kasai a flame trooper kit has been located in your area.as well

  • @cvrnvge425

    @cvrnvge425

    7 жыл бұрын

    Zeek Kasai A Tank-Hunter kit is available near your location.

  • @frylock1998

    @frylock1998

    7 жыл бұрын

    Zeek Kasai anti-vehicle

  • @ibaseballnut7

    @ibaseballnut7

    7 жыл бұрын

    Zeek Kasai bf1 brought me here to

  • @ubersoldado

    @ubersoldado

    7 жыл бұрын

    does bf1 really tells you this?

  • @restescry
    @restescry6 жыл бұрын

    This is a really well made video. The camera angles are great, no-bullshit film cuts, interesting facts, just great narration across the board. This is a better production than 99% of whats on TV today. History Channel should buy all of this mans material and beg him and pay him handsomely to make more.

  • @munkSWE88
    @munkSWE887 жыл бұрын

    I learnd one thing, don´t shoot a Tankgewehr with a tripod.

  • @darandombomb

    @darandombomb

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or do, if you want to keep your shoulder.

  • @munkSWE88

    @munkSWE88

    7 жыл бұрын

    Did not know that, thanks.

  • @stewartlynton9942

    @stewartlynton9942

    7 жыл бұрын

    believe the answer is a shorter tripod and crouch behind it rather then stand, or put something VERY heavy on the base of the legs to hold it down

  • @wrenchtheroo6557

    @wrenchtheroo6557

    7 жыл бұрын

    munkSWE88 evn a M2 tripod?

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ma dude, Answered my comment before I even made it.

  • @BigSwede7403
    @BigSwede74037 жыл бұрын

    And should all else fail you can always release the bolt and use it to club an elephant to death. Holy shit!

  • @ubbgn

    @ubbgn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Multi function weapon is always handy!

  • @amirbutcher2147

    @amirbutcher2147

    7 жыл бұрын

    End them rightly, eh?

  • @kobathor

    @kobathor

    7 жыл бұрын

    I don't think you can unscrew the pommel from this mighty weapon.

  • @antonizajac3907

    @antonizajac3907

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Skallagrim can a T-Gewehr end him rightly?

  • @amirbutcher2147

    @amirbutcher2147

    7 жыл бұрын

    I brought the Skallagrim fanbase to light here, and I'm not ashamed of it. But let's be real, we were already here, and we already knew the answer to this question.

  • @ironheadfm
    @ironheadfm7 жыл бұрын

    You said "original ammo". So not only the rifle is 100 years old? The bullet was also lying in a depot for 100 years?

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @xxPlaceboxx

    @xxPlaceboxx

    7 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten Weapons 🔥

  • @RichterBelmont2235

    @RichterBelmont2235

    7 жыл бұрын

    Robert Yadegari Nay, Forgotten Ammunitions ^_^

  • @Myemnhk

    @Myemnhk

    7 жыл бұрын

    ironheadfm bullets dont age

  • @RichterBelmont2235

    @RichterBelmont2235

    7 жыл бұрын

    XenoNova Gaming lol Bullets aren't indestructible. They can age and sure as hell they can deteriorate.

  • @CgStudios
    @CgStudios7 жыл бұрын

    it's the father of the anti material rifle

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    Very much so. In addition, the .50 BMG cartridge was developed form the 13.2mm TuF, using a bunch of captured T-Gewehrs.

  • @munky342

    @munky342

    7 жыл бұрын

    Chris Gaming Hate to be this guy (not really, I love it), but it's anti materiel. Material and materiel are different.

  • @lockedon8953

    @lockedon8953

    7 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten Weapons actually the 50 BMG was already in development and planning at this stage of the war but like the Thompson SMG was to late to enter service. However, the US did look at using the 13 tuf as the caliber but ruled it unsuitable for MG use so they stayed with the 12.7 round

  • @secondpath5148

    @secondpath5148

    7 жыл бұрын

    John Browning Developed the .50BMG round as an Enlarged Version of the 30-06 for use in his M2 Browning Machine gun. but i cannot Argue that the design is based off the 13mm TUF round.

  • @Flacksh0t

    @Flacksh0t

    6 жыл бұрын

    Locked Firing proof it with some links

  • @somayough
    @somayough7 жыл бұрын

    Next time you fire a godly weapon like this into simulated tank armor, it'd be nice to have a dummy or target behind the plate just so we could see the full effect of the spalling. Didn't realize that it carried as much energy as it did.

  • @larsschroter6994

    @larsschroter6994

    7 жыл бұрын

    even a bit of plywood would be sufficent.

  • @Ecosse57

    @Ecosse57

    7 жыл бұрын

    my thought too. thinking water mellon or something similar.

  • @gopha533

    @gopha533

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bloody thirsty buggers

  • @sleighte

    @sleighte

    7 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @DIEGhostfish

    @DIEGhostfish

    7 жыл бұрын

    And make a sturdier frame so the armor doesn't flop down and foul the test result by changing its angle as it's hit.

  • @jselder11
    @jselder117 жыл бұрын

    the British tank crewman were issued chainmail attached to the front of their helmet to prevent fragmentation so must have been more than just a perceived threat during the war

  • @TheGM-20XX

    @TheGM-20XX

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention spalling and rivets coming lose. those were the real killer.

  • @MrNevin86

    @MrNevin86

    7 жыл бұрын

    and machine guns firing 500 rounds a minute would caused a lot of spalling on the inside of the tanks

  • @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676

    @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mryamaha R603 keep in mind, most of the power and velocity (the think that kills armor) is a result of the length of the barrel and the bullet picking up speed, not the round itself. Sure a heavy projectile hits hard, but velocity is what kills armor. Essentially, even though that round was origionaly designed for a machine gun, a machine gun wouldn't have the same raw performance (or as much as you could achieve with a large bore rifle) than what the rifle would do, not to mention the kick would be horrendous

  • @CanadaJarod

    @CanadaJarod

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dwayne the 'Rock-Hard' Johnson The way I've heard that explained is that bullets are effective because of high kinetic energy, while wrecking balls are effective because of high momentum.

  • @BRWeisensel

    @BRWeisensel

    7 жыл бұрын

    To help clarify, both a bullet and a construction wrecking ball do what they do because of kinetic energy. The energy they transfer to what they hit is based on their velocity and the mass of the object (the famous e=mc^2) , and how much energy is transferred is based on properties of the struck surface. A bullet generally has low mass and thus needs to be moving very fast to have enough energy to have much effect. Whereas a 1,000 kg weight would need far less movement to transfer the same amount of energy. Properties of the struck surface aside, it is indeed possible to have a bullet strike with the same force as a wrecking ball, the light weight bullet would just need to be moving incredibly fast. Dwayne is correct in the need for a correctly lengthed barrel to make full use of the powder charge behind the round. Firing the same form a gun with too short of a barrel would lead to loss of velocity because the expanding gasses in the barrel would be vented off to quickly. Keep in mind though, that a machine gun with a similarly lengthed barrel would have pretty similar performance to the rifle. It being a single shot weapon does not grant some additional bonus to the ballistics of the round.

  • @HuntinwithHattaway
    @HuntinwithHattaway7 жыл бұрын

    That was a big ass man to get kicked back like that! Impressive!

  • @louden-8428

    @louden-8428

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Stoned Videogame Nerd WW2??

  • @PP-yx4rv

    @PP-yx4rv

    6 жыл бұрын

    i just dont understand why they had that extremely tall bipod, its like they wanted the gun to hit the dirt. Better it, then them i guess. haha. think i would have done it prone though.

  • @PP-yx4rv

    @PP-yx4rv

    6 жыл бұрын

    well thats a good point. i see why they didnt want that, it just loos so awkward. wikipedia says its designed to be fired either prone or from the trench. im guessing the design specification dont matter a lot there anyways, most would probably choose a dislocated shoulder over fist fighting a tank, hehe.

  • @death299

    @death299

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Stoned Videogame Nerd Nowhere near like getting hit by a sledge That shit will break your shoulder bones and then some Sure it hurts, but it was primarly meant as a trench weapon to prevent tanks from steaming through barbed wire it's easily worth the pain, as tanks were a bloody nightmare, as it could relatively safely cross no man's land...and in it's path it opens up a rather nasty gsp the enemy can use to slaughter you The round waa loaded with being shot in both formats in mind, so it was far less dangerous than orginally designed to be, but also not constantly putting the soldier firing out of comission for abit With some.proper spacing it was not a difficult task to fire multiple rounds before having to switch it to the other member of your team If both got wore out? Chances are you're dead, as infantry against tanks was never a winnimg proposition, and if you got through that kany rounds..there are.too many for you to fight and likely live

  • @shellshock10

    @shellshock10

    6 жыл бұрын

    that rifle was made to be shot from the ground.

  • @brianpeterson9950
    @brianpeterson99507 жыл бұрын

    Question about the 45 degree shot, if it was the actual tank, wouldn't the plate be more rigid? Since it was only supported by wood, and Ian knocked it over, isn't some of the force absorbed by the movement of the plate, making the test inaccurate?

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was the ricocheting fragments that destroyed the stand and allowed the plate to fall, not the initial impact.

  • @brianpeterson9950

    @brianpeterson9950

    7 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten Weapons thanks for the reply and clarification!

  • @rageagainstthehygiene2357

    @rageagainstthehygiene2357

    6 жыл бұрын

    Momentum is conserved in collisions but not energy: momentum is mv and energy is 1/2 mvv (Nonrelativistic approximation). Anyway - if we assume the bullet is about 0.1kg at 1000m/s, and the plate is 10kg (nice numbers for a ballpark guess), then the final velocity you would expect from the plate if all the momentum of the bullet was transferred to it would be 10m/s. The initial energy of the bullet would be 50,000J and the final energy of the plate would be 500J. That means that the energy loss in knocking the plate down would be only 1%. Okay so I know that plate was probably more like 25kg and the muzzle energy was probably more like 16,000J but the kind of scale will remain. This test will have involved about 99% of the energy that would've been imparted had the plate been attached to an actual tank. That 1% loss is probably equivalent to moving a couple feet further from the target. Also that's if you have all momentum imparted - any oblique ricochet or total penetration will leave some of the momentum in the bullet and result in even less energy being lost in the movement of the plate. Good question though.

  • @isiahrodriguez64
    @isiahrodriguez647 жыл бұрын

    god almighty look at the size of that rifle

  • @NikoMoraKamu

    @NikoMoraKamu

    7 жыл бұрын

    it's bigger than the tank!

  • @rollastoney

    @rollastoney

    7 жыл бұрын

    zum that's not what your mother said last night.

  • @rollastoney

    @rollastoney

    7 жыл бұрын

    zum hahah yeeee, can never go wrong with a classic like that.

  • @olivenicko2698

    @olivenicko2698

    7 жыл бұрын

    A weapon to surpass metalgear

  • @jbraga7166

    @jbraga7166

    7 жыл бұрын

    That is what women when they see my dick.

  • @DeusVultTKD
    @DeusVultTKD7 жыл бұрын

    19 British tankers disliked this.

  • @llynellyn

    @llynellyn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Why? It proved the rifle wouldn''t go through the tank lol.

  • @TheStargatefan1000

    @TheStargatefan1000

    7 жыл бұрын

    At 45° it doesn't but otherwise it did. If you take a look at an Mark IV you'll see that it has plenty of space where it gets pened.

  • @acolbymyers

    @acolbymyers

    7 жыл бұрын

    aka drivers port :D

  • @TheStargatefan1000

    @TheStargatefan1000

    7 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @Valchrist1313

    @Valchrist1313

    7 жыл бұрын

    Too soon :(

  • @johnschaub7810
    @johnschaub78106 жыл бұрын

    Gun Jesus sacrificed his shoulder for you.

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert41247 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Thank you. Also loved the way nobody can fire the rifle without falling. Considering the .50 BMG is more powerful by a noticeable margin it really helps to demonstrate just how effective the modern .50 rifles are at reducing recoil, especially as they are also significantly lighter than the Tankgewehr.

  • @kevinh.a442

    @kevinh.a442

    7 жыл бұрын

    12 years old and playing minecraft?

  • @ethandonnelly1973

    @ethandonnelly1973

    7 жыл бұрын

    Germ .Fish Mate are you fucking serious? Like, no, genuinely how far up your arse is your head sitting? Jesus

  • @militaryhistoryIG

    @militaryhistoryIG

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was the tripod. The weapon was never meant to fire from a standing position. The force simply knocked over the flimsy tripod. Notice how both of them were able to hold the rear of the weapon.

  • @Skyfox94
    @Skyfox947 жыл бұрын

    This was awesome. There's just one thing i'd have loved to see: balistics gel on the other side of the plate, so you could see the amount of fragments and depicture how much damage it would have actually cause apart from the obvious hole.

  • @zenoist2399
    @zenoist23997 жыл бұрын

    Thats why angled armour was developed. Interesting how each side in a war catches up then the enemy improves so they have to catch up again. Wars are great for advancing weapons.

  • @VIKINGCYRUS
    @VIKINGCYRUS7 жыл бұрын

    "I should point out at this point in history, the German word for tank was... tank. Because they were copying the British word for tank... Which was tank." I just like the way he said that

  • @wdchamp2389
    @wdchamp23896 жыл бұрын

    Bi pod on the gun has spikes for a reason...

  • @troglodyte8242
    @troglodyte82427 жыл бұрын

    an anti vehicle kit is available near your location

  • @bgl11

    @bgl11

    7 жыл бұрын

    KFC´s Gravy oh look some other idiot grabbed it and charged to their immediate death

  • @troglodyte8242

    @troglodyte8242

    7 жыл бұрын

    Khanbalyk it's the same idiot who gets himself killed as a takner and behemoth driver

  • @henrykwieniawski7233

    @henrykwieniawski7233

    7 жыл бұрын

    KFC´s Gravy *Tankhunter Kit

  • @troglodyte8242

    @troglodyte8242

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sebeki 2 stupid announcer says anti vehicle kit

  • @SoldatPlaysMinecraft

    @SoldatPlaysMinecraft

    7 жыл бұрын

    KFC´s Gravy It's tank hunter kit pal

  • @Trevor_Leach
    @Trevor_Leach7 жыл бұрын

    In surprised that thing didn't break anyone's shoulder

  • @tostie3110

    @tostie3110

    7 жыл бұрын

    Trevor Leach Well it did, after firing too many rounds it's known to have broken collarbones, especcially when prone.

  • @Andvare

    @Andvare

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Two Shot Gun. One for each shoulder.

  • @billwilson7841
    @billwilson78416 жыл бұрын

    3:17 Battlefield 1 wasnt ralking shit when they said YOU HAVE TO LAY ON THE GROUND TO SHOOT THIS THING

  • @aleksisojala8439
    @aleksisojala84397 жыл бұрын

    imagine shooting a bird with this

  • @dulbbunaabure3525

    @dulbbunaabure3525

    7 жыл бұрын

    MWAHAHA FUCK YOUUUUU *BOOM* holy shit

  • @iisakojala6011

    @iisakojala6011

    7 жыл бұрын

    gg bird

  • @jimaco0312

    @jimaco0312

    7 жыл бұрын

    Spartan Pillow you would see nothing but a pile of feathers falling. Not even a corpse. Just 100 small pieces of meat

  • @kevinh.a442

    @kevinh.a442

    7 жыл бұрын

    There wouldn't be bird left

  • @aleksisojala8439

    @aleksisojala8439

    7 жыл бұрын

    in soviet russia, birds shoot with these

  • @piciu256
    @piciu2567 жыл бұрын

    45 degree angle not only 1,4x the effective thickness but also chops the impact force by half ;)

  • @XtreeM_FaiL

    @XtreeM_FaiL

    7 жыл бұрын

    Piotr Sulej 60° doubles effective armor thicknes, 45° is only multiple of 1.414.

  • @piciu256

    @piciu256

    7 жыл бұрын

    ah true, but still 1/2 the force.

  • @matjazkajba6150

    @matjazkajba6150

    7 жыл бұрын

    the initial impact force at the angle deflects bullet even more, so effective angle is even sharper than 45 degrees

  • @absoluteinfinity1197

    @absoluteinfinity1197

    7 жыл бұрын

    it doesnt double thinkness though, its increases it by a factor of 1.41 (square root of 2)

  • @piciu256

    @piciu256

    7 жыл бұрын

    ah root, not roof, stupid me :P

  • @saltdetected1756
    @saltdetected17567 жыл бұрын

    i'm gonna take a guess and say you didnt fire it prone because shoulders are best left intact.

  • @lazy1451

    @lazy1451

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @genericpersonx333

    @genericpersonx333

    7 жыл бұрын

    This particular AT rifle was not really expected to be used directly flat on the ground but rather perched on the edge of a trench or foxhole or crater. The shooter would thus be crouching or standing behind the gun, rather than in-line with it. The tripod thus better reflects how the weapon would have normally been wielded. AT rifles shooting flat on the ground regularly was more of 1920s thing. Shooting this gun flat on the ground is possible but only at great risk of injury, especially when you are expected to have to put 20 rounds into a tank before it quits.

  • @lavrentivs9891

    @lavrentivs9891

    7 жыл бұрын

    And they were to lazy to dig a trench for testing purposes ;)

  • @mikeromney4712

    @mikeromney4712

    7 жыл бұрын

    Its a typical rifle to be fired from the hip - semiautomatic.....^^

  • @richardb7315

    @richardb7315

    7 жыл бұрын

    Collarbones feel better when they're not fractured

  • @Kriegerdammerung
    @Kriegerdammerung7 жыл бұрын

    6:05 Theoretically, the increase in thickness will be approximately 4.97 mm. On a side note, who would dislike this video? I mean, it was very well done, the information well arranged, what else could be possible add?

  • @sotis1756
    @sotis17566 жыл бұрын

    That is the weakest looking Tripod i have Ever seen....

  • @Raygun222

    @Raygun222

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yet it still worked.

  • @dbaider9467
    @dbaider94677 жыл бұрын

    Awesome as always. Amazed that original ammo for this still exists.

  • @ethandonnelly1973

    @ethandonnelly1973

    7 жыл бұрын

    Douglas Bader You shouldnt be, France is still digging up a few thousand unexploded artillery shells a year in their woods.

  • @reonthornton685

    @reonthornton685

    7 жыл бұрын

    You could replicate it with the right information, but having original ammo is amazing given it wasn't that common.

  • @TheCraftedMine
    @TheCraftedMine7 жыл бұрын

    single shot 100 years old rare anchient ammunition *PISTOL GRIP* *BANNED IN CA* wtf cali?

  • @JustShotsForMeh

    @JustShotsForMeh

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey, it's unlikely that somebody will be this fucking crazy to do so, but this is CA, can you imagine shooting bullet-proof glass with this thing? Armored cars, bank deposits, shit, you can probably mess somebody up in the safety of their home within a safe range. I don't agree with the ban, but my argument would certainly not be rare ammunition and pistol grip.

  • @DaraGaming42

    @DaraGaming42

    7 жыл бұрын

    Blyatiful Cyka it can peierce a TANK, imagine criminals using it against cop cars , its a wonder its banned lol

  • @GnosticAtheist

    @GnosticAtheist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah maybe not the number one choice for gang warfare...

  • @AppleBiscuits

    @AppleBiscuits

    7 жыл бұрын

    Just imagine a gangster trying to hold this thing sideways...

  • @Person01234

    @Person01234

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Cali, there are plenty of legitimate uses for Anti-Tank rifles in civilian life. I don't care that this could potentially penetrate armoured police vehicles, what about all those heavily armoured deer that I need to hunt?

  • @allthingspaper2424
    @allthingspaper24247 жыл бұрын

    Nice audio! No wind noise!

  • @emilrova
    @emilrova6 жыл бұрын

    That recoil tho

  • @maxattack5338
    @maxattack53387 жыл бұрын

    sweet vid ian, tripod might have been a tad ambitious

  • @nates9778

    @nates9778

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nick Craik ya lol

  • @nates9778

    @nates9778

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nick Craik that how they shot it back then

  • @kevinshupenia276
    @kevinshupenia2767 жыл бұрын

    I would have loved to see the impact of the shrapnel cloud on a ballistics gel torso! I'm the future please consider ballistics gel for those of us more interested in the damage to troops. (I am aware that if penetration did not occur this may be a waste of resources..) Thanks for posting Ian!

  • @awesome65555

    @awesome65555

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hello future how is your day?

  • @IamJackofSpades

    @IamJackofSpades

    7 жыл бұрын

    Go play BF1.

  • @zacharydevan4107

    @zacharydevan4107

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's not what this weapon was designed for.

  • @zacharydevan4107

    @zacharydevan4107

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dudio What are you talking about?

  • @zacharydevan4107

    @zacharydevan4107

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dudio And what the f*** is a "shrapnel cloud"?

  • @thomasdysart9464
    @thomasdysart94647 жыл бұрын

    Probably one of the coolest looking rifles of all time

  • @noremorsewoodworking2258

    @noremorsewoodworking2258

    6 жыл бұрын

    Because it is big? It is just a single-shot Mauser albeit scaled up for a specific purpose.

  • @codiserville593
    @codiserville5936 жыл бұрын

    You look like Townsend from "Through Mud and Blood" in that hat

  • @coitusergosum2447
    @coitusergosum24477 жыл бұрын

    Thumbnail made me think this was a LindyBeige video.

  • @morsletum5348

    @morsletum5348

    7 жыл бұрын

    In that case the tank would have stopped a nuke since it's britsh.

  • @Mjk10957

    @Mjk10957

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mors Letum how you work that one out then

  • @simplymadness8849

    @simplymadness8849

    7 жыл бұрын

    Coitus Ergo Sum While Ian and Karl actually demonstrate the effects of a T Gewehr on armor in 7 minutes, lindy would have still been giving his intro telling us about his childhood of making model british tanks, then proceed to ramble on for another half hour. (I just watched a 20 minute video of lindybeige explaining what a muzzle break does lol) Still a fan, dont kill me

  • @ThZuao

    @ThZuao

    7 жыл бұрын

    His salt was that people were saying Brit soldiers called the MG34 Spandau, not the MG42. Because the 34 was manufactured in the Spandau plant and the 42 was made all over the country and whatnot. Like you can differentiate between both when they're slinging lead at you. Americans called them both "Buzzsaw". In the end of the first video, he reiterates the question: "Was the Bren better than the Spandau? NO *Outro plays*"

  • @Akm72

    @Akm72

    7 жыл бұрын

    In what way was he proven wrong?

  • @BILLZ62
    @BILLZ627 жыл бұрын

    this is why you have to be prone in bf1

  • @sashakta

    @sashakta

    7 жыл бұрын

    BILLZ 1981 true...

  • @101roccat101

    @101roccat101

    7 жыл бұрын

    h0lly shiz, and i thought it was an extra gun perk? i used it on an infantry at close range head on in the Chest. .. now i see its an anti tank rifle... this whole time.... i wasted my time..

  • @johnjeromson3471

    @johnjeromson3471

    7 жыл бұрын

    Greedy Baron no they had it coming to them 😂😂😂

  • @101roccat101

    @101roccat101

    7 жыл бұрын

    but i feel awful for the misery i caused to the widows i created. all they got back is a coffin filled with mince and their national flag at the ceremony. my sins are non-redeemable, i will uninstall Battlefield 1 in this case.

  • @StevenL00

    @StevenL00

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nice one here

  • @Fosi94
    @Fosi946 жыл бұрын

    5:09 Embrace the german POWAH!

  • @neuroplasticity

    @neuroplasticity

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol clarkson

  • @justatiger6268

    @justatiger6268

    6 жыл бұрын

    And apparently, it's completely silent as well.

  • @donny8652

    @donny8652

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @mmmssbb23
    @mmmssbb237 жыл бұрын

    so far the best shooting videos in KZread,no unwanted bgms,brief yet crisp and clear.

  • @sjambok1
    @sjambok17 жыл бұрын

    Ian is the man!

  • @maelgugi

    @maelgugi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sjambok1 He came to protect our sacred right to arm bears!

  • @Umayyadazi

    @Umayyadazi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sjambok1 and Satan

  • @ghettoflyer
    @ghettoflyer7 жыл бұрын

    The British tank crews were actually issued the equivalent of chain male glasses to keep the metal shards from such penetrations of the tanks armor from entering their eyes and damaging their faces.

  • @SRNF
    @SRNF6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, get the old man to fire the giant rifle. I like your thinking.

  • @xXWOND3RBR3ADXx
    @xXWOND3RBR3ADXx6 жыл бұрын

    (0:45) We need a rifle *We need a bigger rifle*

  • @aser8552
    @aser85527 жыл бұрын

    You can kill a heavy tank with 5 shots, if you pick up the tankgewehr (part of the tank hunter class). Cuz it does 20% dmg.

  • @gordistador

    @gordistador

    7 жыл бұрын

    You cant kill tanks.

  • @terrydelahanty664

    @terrydelahanty664

    7 жыл бұрын

    MAsterOplayer no but you can kill the crew inside that was the whole point of that rifle

  • @ethandonnelly1973

    @ethandonnelly1973

    7 жыл бұрын

    Aser15€ The actual tank they're talking about in this video, the Landship its called in BF, theres a variant of it that has T Ghewehr's in the front and back instead of a cannon. You can snipe tanks with a tank haha

  • @reonthornton685

    @reonthornton685

    7 жыл бұрын

    Can kill tanks, hit the engine, or a fuel pipe.

  • @michaelhill1357
    @michaelhill13574 жыл бұрын

    According to some German WW1 veterans if you extracted the bullet head from a 7.92mm cartridge and replaced it reversed, so the cup end was facing forward, this would penetrate the armour on a tank similar to a hollow charge effect. This was demonstrated on a British TV program using a WW1 98k and the bullet passed through the armour plate as clean as a whistle.

  • @montanaorr6937
    @montanaorr69374 жыл бұрын

    So glad KZread has shown me this great channel!!!! Y’all are awesome !!!

  • @fuzzlewuzzle9388
    @fuzzlewuzzle93882 ай бұрын

    There's a certain charm to these old forgotten weapons videos.

  • @JoeDurobot
    @JoeDurobot7 жыл бұрын

    *It would be interesting to see a video on that man's hat collection!*

  • @Ctulhu911
    @Ctulhu9117 жыл бұрын

    This video is blessed, so does this man!

  • @hellodarknessmyoldfriend2213

    @hellodarknessmyoldfriend2213

    7 жыл бұрын

    thank you gun jesus

  • @filthyanimal874

    @filthyanimal874

    7 жыл бұрын

    hello darkness my old friend ....... I've come to talk with you again......

  • @VHSJang
    @VHSJang8 ай бұрын

    In the Great War Museum in Kansas City they have one of these and I had the honor of seeing one. They are a sight to behold. I’m short, 5’5 so I’m used to PEOPLE being bigger than me but to see a gun that’s a full 2 inches taller than myself made me really put how insane fighting the Great War was for BOTH sides. For the Germans, you hear a tractor engine buzzing through a desolate landscape so you mount a gun as big as you are to a goddamn machine gun mount (they didn’t have slings and NEEDED to be mounted to the base used by Maxim guns) and you start sending hate down range praying that you’ll sling a chunk of lead into a metal beast that didn’t even exist the year before. FOR THE BRITISH, you’re in a hot hunk of metal with an exposed tractor engine blasting fumes in a small cramped space you occupy with the rest of the crew. Bullets from rifles hitting the walls of the tank your in making what they called “Spatter” which is the razor sharp shards of metal that fly around inside the tank from bullets hitting the outside and not entirely passing through but splitting the metal just enough. Then you see some German cat in the hole you’re trying to get to pull out a weapon that’s just absurdly large and mount it to a maxim mount. He takes aim and blasts a slug bigger than any other that exist in that time right at you. Dude, world war one was just DIFFERENT

  • @ahyena975
    @ahyena9757 жыл бұрын

    now I know that when I'm firing at a mark IV tank with my tank gewehr I'll be sure to be aiming directly at it and not an angle, thanks!

  • @tryrose8334
    @tryrose83347 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but the sound of the ground crunching under his feet was the most attractive part of the video for me... so crisp xD

  • @Killer553
    @Killer5537 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how these were the best tanks at that time and M2 Browning that has been built just 3-4 years later would massacre those tank crews.

  • @malifor2210
    @malifor22107 жыл бұрын

    I love this video, a perfect example of angling armor, especially "tank" related armor vs guns.

  • @SvenTheSveed
    @SvenTheSveed7 жыл бұрын

    very informative, thanks for the continued content Ian!

  • @szili76
    @szili767 жыл бұрын

    I dont know how i ended up here. Not even in to guns. But this dude is so charismatic that i am gonna go ahead and sub!

  • @spef7396
    @spef73967 жыл бұрын

    fuck yes ian you godly man

  • @georgemilton678

    @georgemilton678

    7 жыл бұрын

    aah the legendary spef

  • @sonyviva308

    @sonyviva308

    7 жыл бұрын

    spef Dat profile picture tho

  • @celticfrost86

    @celticfrost86

    7 жыл бұрын

    ahahaha fucking picture lol

  • @Ziomkowsky2000

    @Ziomkowsky2000

    7 жыл бұрын

    Talk about fans

  • @tenhundredkills

    @tenhundredkills

    7 жыл бұрын

    You know Ian has reached the big leagues when he has his own stalker, lol!

  • @ohhhSmooth
    @ohhhSmooth7 жыл бұрын

    wow, that's the first YT video in quiet a while, that I actually learned something from,... great job dude, subscribed...

  • @robertsales4547
    @robertsales45476 жыл бұрын

    Really just want to thank you for your work sir. Youve made my days better since 2014 favourite chanel by far. Thank you.

  • @princepompadour279
    @princepompadour2797 жыл бұрын

    Ah damn, that's gonna leave a big bruise on your sholder

  • @HappyBeezerStudios

    @HappyBeezerStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    Considering the fact that they were designed to be shot prone, it will make a massive bruise.

  • @DaveC2729
    @DaveC27296 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see that rifle compared with a modern .50 BMG.

  • @xXCurs3rXx
    @xXCurs3rXx7 жыл бұрын

    This was an awsome video! Thank you for that.

  • @N4CR5
    @N4CR57 жыл бұрын

    Really neat video and thank you to the vendors for coming together to support you! Earned a sub. Cheers

  • @winstinwin7650
    @winstinwin76507 жыл бұрын

    Why the tripod ?? I thought it would of been used laying down ???

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    Didn't want to abuse my shoulder.

  • @ricola9533

    @ricola9533

    6 жыл бұрын

    winstin win He would break or badly bruise his shoulders

  • @PCMGuns
    @PCMGuns4 жыл бұрын

    Tried a similar thing with a British .55" Boys A/T rifle, it penetrated 1/2" of plate at 50 yards, so we doubled up the plate thickness to 1" and got about 75% through it but no full penetration. It was a bugger to shoot but a lot of fun! Pete Moore

  • @deanwall7522
    @deanwall75227 жыл бұрын

    Extremely interesting and informative video, thanks Ian

  • @gfabie4901
    @gfabie49014 жыл бұрын

    You are an excellent and knowledgeable host. Thank you.

  • @methanbreather
    @methanbreather7 жыл бұрын

    so the ammunition was 100yrs old? how would it have performed factory fresh?

  • @bourneyesterdayi
    @bourneyesterdayi6 жыл бұрын

    Once issue I had with this test was that an armor plate on a tank would move back, and might provide more of a sturdy impact zone for the bullet to penetrate.

  • @milesgiese2712
    @milesgiese27127 жыл бұрын

    thanks man for the awesome video

  • @thegrandnagus5271
    @thegrandnagus52717 жыл бұрын

    fantastic! again a great video for us to enjoy, thanks again man!!!

  • @JohnCena-zi9bj
    @JohnCena-zi9bj7 жыл бұрын

    The moment I saw this in my recommended tab I thought "An Tank Hunter Kit is available near your location"

  • @mer_meh
    @mer_meh7 жыл бұрын

    This is way smaller in Battlefield One

  • @PaleoCon2008
    @PaleoCon20083 жыл бұрын

    That was a very impressive demonstration. Thanks!

  • @Peter0028
    @Peter00286 жыл бұрын

    Great video and good considerations as always!

  • @littleferrhis
    @littleferrhis6 жыл бұрын

    Just a quick question, why did you use the tripod to shoot instead of the bipod on the ground? It seems like it would be a lot more stable on the ground.

  • @dominusvictoriae

    @dominusvictoriae

    6 жыл бұрын

    because when using a bipod your laying down and all the energy is going straight into your shoulder with no ability to bend to the recoil. in other words shooting from a bipod hurts like a bitch for something that big (shoot a bois AT rifle or a 50bmg while laying down and you will know what i mean) and finding a bipod to work for such an old gun is really difficult. would have been better if he used a tall wooden panel as a fourth support to stop him from dropping the gun.

  • @Jack-xy4fy

    @Jack-xy4fy

    6 жыл бұрын

    No... if you are being hurt by recoil YOU are a bitch. The original comment was correct, he should have used a bipod. Looked like idiots dropping it twice... And whoever lent you that rifle will think twice about letting you borrow another after that.

  • @Ctulhu911
    @Ctulhu9117 жыл бұрын

    So good! Everybody must name a baby after Ian, even if she is a girl!

  • @Biggus_Dickus_876
    @Biggus_Dickus_8764 жыл бұрын

    You put on a great show dude. Thanks.

  • @chancepace4450
    @chancepace44507 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video. Would love to see more test with these weapons.

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato7 жыл бұрын

    This is really cool! It's like watching Taofledermaus in 1917

  • @hquiller
    @hquiller7 жыл бұрын

    Hope the owner of the rifle never sees this video...

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    The owner was the first guy shooting the rifle.

  • @hquiller

    @hquiller

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oh! Ok! Why you guys didn't use a more stable thing? Anyway, nice video!

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    7 жыл бұрын

    We didn't anticipate that it would collapse like that, and once we were there it was too late to change anything.

  • @hquiller

    @hquiller

    7 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten Weapons I don't think the owner will shoot that rifle again in a veeeery long time! LOL! Question... Value of that rifle?

  • @kylecoulombe2755

    @kylecoulombe2755

    7 жыл бұрын

    CreepingDeath $6500

  • @FOWST
    @FOWST4 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how I ended up here. I'm not a weapons guy. But your calm and factual style kept me watching :) I enjoyed.

  • @littlebull8881
    @littlebull88817 жыл бұрын

    excellent upload thanks for sharing guys

  • @fire304
    @fire3046 жыл бұрын

    Question is, are their any historical evidence these were used effectively to stop tanks. If so I also imagine someone did a battlefield damage assessment as well. Would be interesting to see/hear the results. Love your stuff Ian!

  • @CRQ5508
    @CRQ55087 жыл бұрын

    I have one issue with the 45º angle shot. Destruction of the frame the plate was sitting in meant that a lot of the energy of the bullet was dissipated into the frame, meaning the full mass and speed of the bullet wasn't transferred to the plate. Since the frame was made of just plywood and some 2x4s, it blew apart, taking that momentum with it. What I'm getting at is that the MkII weighed 28 tons and all the energy of that bullet would have been transferred to the plate steel. If Ian's plate were more rigidly fixed, and didn't move when shot at 45º, would the bullet have been able to penetrate at that angle? Just a thought.

  • @Cragified

    @Cragified

    7 жыл бұрын

    It fell over because the splash after impact ripped the wooden supports apart, Ian already explained this in another comment.

  • @AusiKifaru27

    @AusiKifaru27

    7 жыл бұрын

    CRQ5508 Supported or unsupported makes no difference. The energy transfer happens so quickly. If you take a heavy door, like on a bank vault, and push it closed, the more energy you push it with, the harder it will slam shut. If you punch it, however, you're going to apply more energy but the door will move very little, if at all. In the case of the armour plate, if the projectile cannot penetrate, only then will it use all its energy in more of a push. It all happens in milliseconds though and the end result is the same. There's a couple videos I've seen floating around KZread that have done supported vs unsupported penetration tests, and the result is always that they're the same.

  • @wallerdog

    @wallerdog

    7 жыл бұрын

    +AusiKifaru27 very interesting, thanks! I was wondering the same thing and this answers that question.

  • @ChrisWilletts
    @ChrisWilletts4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Would love to see more content like this..

  • @itsDavoBro
    @itsDavoBro7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video thanks!

  • @antonioromo9718
    @antonioromo97186 жыл бұрын

    In Battlefield 1 we can do it. So, it's real. DICE would never lie to us :)

  • @DaveLennonCopeland
    @DaveLennonCopeland7 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy watching your normal videos, but this was *really good*.

  • @gokingsgo814
    @gokingsgo8147 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your videos on these old war weapons.

  • @holden5478
    @holden54787 жыл бұрын

    Cool video Ian!

  • @sulc4092
    @sulc40924 жыл бұрын

    My shoulder hurts just after one look at the rifle

  • @dirkbonesteel
    @dirkbonesteel7 жыл бұрын

    This is strange. Every single "up next" video listed on left is a little kid educational thing. No clue what this means but curious if this is on everyone's screen instead of usual links to other gun / Forgotten Weapons videos?

  • @dirkbonesteel

    @dirkbonesteel

    7 жыл бұрын

    They fixed it. Someone in comments said it happened because video was listed as educational. 3 weeks ago it was all little kid stuff, a bit creepy

  • @olivialambert4124

    @olivialambert4124

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've got a lot of Forgotten weapons, some Vickers tactical, and then random military/tank videos in the clickbait fashion "this is what China are scared of"... yeah unlikely. Oh and a single World of Tanks "funny moments" to top it all off. I almost watched it, then saw the video creator was "JustForLolzFYI". With a name like that I expect nothing more than cancer. Still, the suggestion that China are scared of some random gun mid way through development wins the cancer award. China, a country not at war with USA and with a military approximately equal in power to that of Spain. If they were scared of anything regarding the American military I'd imagine they'd be scared of the fact that USA has about the same power as the next 5 most powerful nations in the world combined (including UK, France, Russia, and Israel combined) rather than some half developed demonstrator gun in the age of missiles and drones. But once again, China aren't at war with USA so the entire argument is moot anyway. And yes they have a lot of soldiers, but even in WW2 the pure infantry count meant absolutely nothing as Russia can testify. Wars are won and lost by the Air Force these days.

  • @thereasonableamericans411

    @thereasonableamericans411

    7 жыл бұрын

    I did NOT expect you to look the way you do having just read all that. I'm sure I'm not alone, that's a compliment btw.

  • @koolkiop
    @koolkiop7 жыл бұрын

    love this channel

  • @TheGodParticle
    @TheGodParticle7 жыл бұрын

    Great video, keep em coming, cheers from England.

  • @lakewooded4929
    @lakewooded49297 жыл бұрын

    Placing a panel of wood or foam board a yard or two behind the plate to show the spalling effect would have been a good idea.

  • @JoshuaProtz
    @JoshuaProtz6 жыл бұрын

    Weird how the rifle specifically made to go thru that specific armor plating punched a hole in it. Man that slow mo was gorgeous!

  • @MrPorkmann
    @MrPorkmann7 жыл бұрын

    Informative. Thank you.

  • @zhouenlai8703
    @zhouenlai87037 жыл бұрын

    Love your content