Good morning Run4adventure and all the runners. Very interesting comparison. Like for Loyd. I have the garmin forerunner45, a basic GPS running watch . A nice monday for everyone.

Phew!! Wasn’t going to look at this video as Deb took the plunge on a pair of Apex Pro 2’s literally 5 hours before the video came out! Based on your review seems like it was a good choice. As long time Garmin users (15+ years) it’s going to be interesting to see the difference. Once again nice video Loyd.

Looks good Loyd. I went through a similar thought process last year. Ended up with a 1st gen Garmin Enduro on sale for £359. Decided I could live without topo maps and music but the battery life is insane, over 80 hrs GPS. Literally 2 days later, the Enduro came out for, wait for it, £929! 😱 Doesn't matter, these days I need a sun dial and calendar 🤣

Thanks for this review. I have been looking for a partner for my Polar Vantage M2 for several months and so far the Coros Apex Pro 2 is winning.

Long time Garmin user, but always had interest in coros, especially since my ultra brothers and sisters say so many good things about price to battery life ratio. Thanks for the video.

A few years ago I switched from Suunto to Coros and have no plans on switching away from Coros. My Coros Apex has a longer battery life, slimmer design, and more features than my Suunto (I forget which model I hade, but it was a few years older), and cost less money. Those were enough reasons for me.

COROS watches are awesome. I had a garmin 945 and the battery wasn’t holding up. In came my COROS apex. Had it for nearly 2 years and loved it. However COROS recalled the watch. (mine was fine) they sent me a replacement apex pro with a fresh 2 year warranty. They definitely take care of their customers!

@michaelkleinstoll4635

Жыл бұрын

that's nice to hear, thanks bro

Great video 👍 I recommend coros to people who ask me about gps watches. I had a fenix 6 for a long time and it did everything I needed, I recently upgraded to enduro2 only for the battery life. Corus is a great watch and if budget is important it beats garmin, but if you run 100 milers and are ok with dropping a grand on a watch the enduro2 is better imo.

I have a Coros Vertix, and the only issue is putting on coats and rucksacks. It does get caught up. But when I only have to charge it once a month, I can put up with the size

Happy with my 1st gen Garmin Enduro, all the new bells and whistles, maps I never used on my Fenix 6 pro, as I much prefer my iPhone mini for navigation, and a charged mobile is mandatory part of kit now for Ultra races.

Looking into the Apex Pro 2 myself

Really love my Apex, absolutely solid though may look at the Pro 2 to get more than breadcrumb navigation. Great breakdown of the updates Loyd, thanks for sharing 👍

Main feature updates from Apex to Apex 2 are topo and landscape mapping, all gps systems on mode, new HR sensor, and touchscreen. There are also some software updates that had been phased out on original Apex. Battery life is pretty similar considering the additional satellite mode. I actually get less longevity per charge than I did with my original Apex. FYI I am talking about Apex model not Apex Pro here.

@danielthacker3906

Жыл бұрын

The Topo maps - is it the same standard as the Garmin Fenix for pre mapped courses?

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

@@danielthacker3906 Garmin mapping includes the names of trails and roads as their maps are labeled, and they give you turn by turn directions. Coros does not have any labeling on their maps, or any turn by turn directions, just an arrow along the navigated path.

@sachakopa7964

10 ай бұрын

@@nathanennsI was told by Coros that they’re adding turn by turn sometime at the end of the year…even on the pace 2

I’ve been using the same Apple Watch since 2016. But I am very interested in upgrading to a coros! I use to be a serious runner running 50-70 miles a week. But the past couple years I’ve been getting into trail races and want to do longer races! This is a great video to see what would work best for me! Thank you!!

@Apex543

Жыл бұрын

imo, nobody holds a candle to apple watches in terms of smart watch and fitness tracking features. garmin has got better navigation and huawei has managed to come close in hrm and battery life with gt3, but apple still holds the crown as overall smart watch

@mattschm5486

Жыл бұрын

I have a coros apex(1) Running 40-80k a week and doing some not Ultratrail races. My longest run was 40k 2500+. Used 15-20% of the battery. They update the sw regularly with bugfixes and new or improved features. I think they are great sports watches. But they are not an Apple Watch they are great for sports and as a watch. After about 3.5 years I need to charge maybe ones a week ( about 8+ hrs of excercise per week)

@mattschm5486

Жыл бұрын

@@Apex543 try to use it for a 100mile trail without charging….

Hi, Does anyone know if they are compatible with Garmin HRM Pro Plus ? Thanks

12:50 The processor is heavily under clocked. Hence why the map navigation is so slow at 5:43.

Having had my Garmin F3 for years now and still does what I want apart from battery’s life I’ve always kept an eye on Coros and this is an interesting comparison between Coros models. Hate to take you back to January but are there plans to bring out a “lessons learned from ARC100” and perhaps a collab with Steve and John? I’m interested to know what happened to you all and could you share advice for us 100 newbies? 👍 ATB, Paul

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul I'm currently working on our Arc of Attrition race day video. We had so much footage to go through its taken a long time. Plus I want the video to do our Arc series and the epic race some justice 👍 Should be on the channel soon Paul, thanks for watching 🙏😊

Looks like a awesome watch! How do you think it compares to the pace2?

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

The Pace 2 is a lot more basic when it comes to the features on the watch. It really depends on what your going to use the watch for? If you want navigation, maps and a long battery life I'd go for the Apex 2 or Apex Pro. If you don't need any of that the Pace 2 is still a great watch. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊

@anthonyrampino7734

11 ай бұрын

@@Run4Adventure thanks Loyd, that does help!

I’ve review! Best bang for your buck on the market! Side note - you have a decent subscriber count. I bet if you reached out to Garmin, they would have no problem sending you media loaners to test out so you can develop comparison videos.

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I've tried contacting Garmin several times and they're not interested unfortunately? 🤔 Thanks for watching 🙏

@chrisgore77

11 ай бұрын

@@Run4Adventure their loss! Hope things change at some point. Thanks for responding! Take care.

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

@@chrisgore77 I'll keep trying 👍😊

i can hear this dude all day long

I'm rocking my Garmin 955, I would say is a much better product, with a worse kind of construction. But technically speaking Garmin in my opinion is still better.

If I’m honest comparing Coros with Coros isn’t really something worth doing. I’ve been sat on the fence about swopping from my Fenix 6x pro to a Coros and other than battery I still cannot see a good reason to swop. Would love to see you do a proper head to head with Garmin to Coros. I’ve also got several friends who moan about the hr sensor on their coros, and also the lack of way points.

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to do a head to head with Garmin but I can't afford one! There's no way I can spend out on a new Fenix just to do a review 😬 I actually thought the wrist heart rate was really good on the new Apex Pro 2, definitely a lot better than the one on my original Apex Pro. Obviously I've not tried the HR on a Garmin so I can't compare 🤔 Hole you are fit and well and thanks for watching Dean 🙏

@Predazord007

Жыл бұрын

@@Run4Adventure Hopefully Garmin at some point will feel confident enough to reach out and let you test one. You would definitely do the review justice

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

@@Predazord007 You never know mate🤞😊

No mention of Garmin throughout. This video doesn’t compare the two brands at all. 🙄

@adventures_of_a_dale

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s not a Coros vs Garmin video 🙄

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

@@adventures_of_a_dale That’s not what the title and description suggest.

Hello Can we save a locations like in garmin watchs? Thank you

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I'm not sure what you mean Aymen? I'm not familiar with the current Garmin watches 🤔

There’s absolutely no difference in syncing a .gpx route in the Apex 2 series vs original Apex. Coros updated that a few years back. Routes sync to Coros app from saved Strava routes automatically as always as well.

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

I was talking about the Apex Pro and the Apex Pro 2 when it comes to syncing a gpx file. When I first got my Apex Pro it wasn't that straight forward at all Nathan. Like I said in the video, this was my first time running with the Apex model but Coros stated that the Apex battery life had gone from 35hrs to 45hrs so that's why I mentioned that the battery life had improved. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍😊

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

@@Run4Adventure Coros updated the .gpx process for both watches years back, but it was after the initial launch of the Apex line.

As you say mate, there is no right or wrong with GPS watches, it is all personal preference. I do not think you can easily compare Garmin and Coros, both are very good and both have their strong and weak points. I am a Garmin fan personally, but I do struggle with the price of Garmin watches and I would find it hard to jusitfy paying for a Garmin Enduro. It is one area I think Garmin need to work on. I have a Garmin Instinct Solar, it has a great battery but only breadcrum maps, so I am considering an upgrade but to what I do not know, my budget cannot streatch to £1k for a top of the range Garmin...

@robsbeenrunning

Жыл бұрын

Also, this might not be any kind of indication, but check out the athletes for Coros and the Athletes for Garmin... There are no trail runners advertised for the Garmin brand!! 🧐

Really wanna try a Apex Pro 2 but I've concerns about the display. Dont wanna drop £500 on a janky ass looking display.

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

Apex 2 display is great but it is smaller than my original Apex 46mm which affects visibility to a small degree.

@saltydog6241

Жыл бұрын

Wait for the upcoming Garmin Forerunner 965 if you want AMOLED.

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

I think the display is really good on the Apex Pro 2, I definitely don't think it's janky 🤔

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

They're talking about the Apex Pro 2, not the Apex Nathan 🤔

@mikem4215

Жыл бұрын

Display quality is exactly on par w garmin fenix 7

Standby, non-GPS battery life actually went down on the new Apex 2s from the original Apex line.

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

That's not what Coros say Nathan. Like I said in the video, this was my first time using the Apex model. The numbers I've been given are that the battery life went up from 35hrs to 45hrs with the Apex 🤔 Thanks for watching.

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

@@Run4Adventure That’s gps battery life you’re referring to. The Apex 2 has 17 days of standby battery life vs the original Apex which had 30 days! The Apex Pro 2 remained the exact same as the Apex Pro with 30 days for standby regular watch use. This according to specs on Coros website.

@nathanenns

Жыл бұрын

@@Run4Adventure Research is probably better than just relying on what Coros said to you. But I prefer to go to @Desfit or @DCRainmaker for in-depth reviews of running tech anyways.

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanenns Yes it is, because it was GPS battery life I was referring to in the review, not standby. Personally the GPS battery life is a lot more important than the standby. If I'm running a long race or multi-day race I need a long GPS battery life 👍

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanenns I totally agree but unfortunately I've never used the original Apex so that wasn't an option. I also agree with the fact that DC's tech reviews are more detailed. However, they should be because that's his thing and that's all he does 😊 At the end of the day you can pick and choose what you watch Nathan, no one is making you watch our reviews 👍

Coros pumping a lot of money into their marketing. Sadly for them, Garmin will continue to dominate imo

@Run4Adventure

Жыл бұрын

To be fair Garmin had a big head start and are a massive company compared to tiny little Coros! I think it's good to have another company in the GPS running watch market, healthy competition is always good 😊

@PoetWithPace

Жыл бұрын

@@Run4Adventure oh so many in the market and many seem to be disappearing like Suunto and Polar.