Core 2 Quad Windows 98 3Dfx Voodoo 2 Retro Gaming PC

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  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre5 жыл бұрын

    I know I keep saying this, but man, I need to build one of these and have it set up permanently. Late 90s, early 2000s are the absolute golden-age of PC gaming, IMO.

  • @jessed0308

    @jessed0308

    Ай бұрын

    amen

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson5 жыл бұрын

    Windows 98 can only make use of 1 CPU/core/thread channel, however 1 core, 1 thread from that CPU will still easily surpass anything it would have run on originally. This would make a great multi-boot system. Win98 may only see the first CPU pipeline and PCI slots but Win XP will see all pipelines and the PCI-E slot. Thanks for the tip on 3Dfx tweeker. Also, “olden goldies,” Phil? Love it! 😄

  • @nicholsliwilson

    @nicholsliwilson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@camthesaxman3387 yeh, PIII was significantly more efficient with a much shorter instruction pipeline. P4 did improve over it’s many iterations but PIII was a great starting point for developing the Core series.

  • @PierreVonStaines
    @PierreVonStaines5 жыл бұрын

    How can you dislike this video?! Phil's giving you nothing but possibilities to keep Windows 98 gaming alive!

  • @snowsaysahhh3037

    @snowsaysahhh3037

    5 жыл бұрын

    becuz ppl are stupid and haters gonna hate

  • @rpeetz

    @rpeetz

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@snowsaysahhh3037 I disagree, pentium 4 with an i865 chipset is cheaper than any core2quad build, the only thing stupid is use a SMP CPU on a OS that don't support SMP, and pay more for that(at least where i live pentium 4 builds can be done with equivalent to US$50. while it is possible to drop US$25 on a Core2Quad(just the cpu). Edit: i'm not against using s775 builds for windows 98, but using a Core2Quad ? i'm pretty sure that pentium d and socket 775 pentium 4 will save you a LOT of money for a windows 98 build.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407

    @ZeroHourProductions407

    5 жыл бұрын

    I remember the horror stories i could tell of trying to slog through with Windows 98 exceptionally well. And at least in my experience, XP with service pack 3 has enough DOS compatibility to overcome for any such older games that I actively care about.

  • @eduardoavila646

    @eduardoavila646

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rpeetz Pentium 4 is actually kinda dumb for that build. P4's heat up too much, have a really low ipc and are in general uneficcient. Its way better to get a early core2duo at around 1.6-2.4ghz or even a coresolo wich has only a single core.

  • @Konkretertyp

    @Konkretertyp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eduardoavila646 As phil has mentioned in the video, you could just get a single-core celeron for that purpose. For me personally,something like this would make a good dual boot system with win98 and winXP. I had done something similar with a socket 939 Athlon X2 4200+ and it worked fine, the only issue i had was the agp radeon x1950 that had no drivers for win98. I just wanted to see my Voodoo 2 in action again and for that it was just fine. I will try it again with my core2duo a ati rage 2 and voodoo2 combination i have laying around.

  • @gameboyexe303
    @gameboyexe3035 жыл бұрын

    Next Video: Windows 98 on Intel i9 9980xe with 3dfx Voodoo. :D

  • @AndreiNeacsu

    @AndreiNeacsu

    5 жыл бұрын

    It has to be a Voodoo Rush card.

  • @ascend7172

    @ascend7172

    5 жыл бұрын

    Voodo banshee

  • @m9078jk3

    @m9078jk3

    5 жыл бұрын

    How about Windows 95 with a S3 Virge 325 graphics card.

  • @adventureoflinkmk2

    @adventureoflinkmk2

    5 жыл бұрын

    **insert the m.bison yes!! Gif or video clip here**

  • @kbotev

    @kbotev

    5 жыл бұрын

    That CPU will bottleneck the Voodoo ;)

  • @drzeissler
    @drzeissler5 жыл бұрын

    the single celeron is a very interesting option!

  • @dylanringproductions160
    @dylanringproductions1605 жыл бұрын

    Man your videos are so informative and entertaining! I love these projects and I look forward to them! :)

  • @seshpenguin
    @seshpenguin5 жыл бұрын

    As always, an awesome build. I love how many options we have for retro games!

  • @yaboibruh3874
    @yaboibruh38745 жыл бұрын

    Hi you inspired me to build my first pc

  • @Y_Lim

    @Y_Lim

    4 жыл бұрын

    me either especially on 771 to 775 modification XD

  • @symol30872
    @symol308725 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video as always. Vintage parts are getting so expensive now I'm glad I started getting into it 3-4 years back when it was reasonable. This is a great option if your retro build dies and you don't want to spend a fortune fixing it or you're just getting into retro gaming

  • @georgez8859
    @georgez88595 жыл бұрын

    Great video to run 98 with newer hardware. Socket 775 parts are still a good way to build a system on a budget. Thanks Phil

  • @ShdxW
    @ShdxW5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always; fantastic stuff! Such a neat and practical idea. I will absolutely go about building something like this to take the place of my current pentium iii system (the ease of using a sata ssd is too tempting) once I get my hands on a pci voodoo card.

  • @LivingwithPerks
    @LivingwithPerks5 жыл бұрын

    Came here from EposVox's channel - I had this VooDoo card lol. Awesome work!

  • @u263a3
    @u263a34 жыл бұрын

    This video has been very useful and informative!! Thanks for making this vid

  • @1ManWrenching
    @1ManWrenching5 жыл бұрын

    That’s a very cool build. Makes me glad I saved my last two Core 2 motherboards. I may put one of these together sometime soon.

  • @fb5601
    @fb56015 жыл бұрын

    That CPU is better than the one I have on my main PC

  • @SharkVaderYT

    @SharkVaderYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol same

  • @harisrizvanbegovic2728
    @harisrizvanbegovic27285 жыл бұрын

    Everything was great. It reminded me on the old NVidia control panel from my youth age. Only one thing: windows 2000 may be worth of considering. Bravo!

  • @callindocorleone5435
    @callindocorleone54355 жыл бұрын

    Nice setup, you're awesome

  • @chunye215
    @chunye2155 жыл бұрын

    There was a tool called fanspeed (NOT speedfan) for win98 that would ship with a driver called vhaltd.vxd, which basically makes the CPU halt whenever it was not under load. Made especially more modern CPUs run much cooler when idle.

  • @daPabOu

    @daPabOu

    4 жыл бұрын

    There were a few of these software that made use of the HALT instruction on the CPU to cool it down, especially during file transfers. A few of them: cpuidle, rain, VCool, ...

  • @hangyang6332
    @hangyang63325 жыл бұрын

    Love ur content m8, keep it up

  • @marcins6071
    @marcins60715 жыл бұрын

    good work! I wish you 100k subscriptions :)

  • @mymediapc9521
    @mymediapc95215 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Phil! Awesome video! One thing of note, it detects it as a Pentium III cause that's the highest processor Windows 98 probably knows or that the processor responded to based 98's CPUID queries.

  • @jamisonlm3
    @jamisonlm35 жыл бұрын

    Who would've thought all those old computers I had, gutted and eventually tossed would have been worth something in the coming decades. Then again, they probably wouldn't have been worth as much if I hadn't tossed them. I'm glade I'm saving my first computer my dad and me built together. It was a 2.8Ghz Northwood P4, 512MB RAM and an ATI 9700 All in Wonder. It was all put into a silver aluminum Lian Li case. That damn blue power on LED was so bright! I got the motherboard, RAM and CPU from a company called Monarch Computer because they'd do a burn in test for you. I eventually upgraded to 1GB in the last few years when I rescued an old Gateway desktop out of a dumpster. Man, all that seems like forever ago.

  • @warrax111

    @warrax111

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have Lian Li case too, black one. I've unplugged cable for blue LED it's best what you can do. And I've dimmed the red one too, with bit of black plastic tape.

  • @BoomBox02
    @BoomBox025 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing. And to think, i have had a few HP SFF Pc's with core2duos in them just sitting there doing nothing. I have a few PCI low profile Geforce 2 cards that will fit nice into the case. They now have a new lease on life as Windows 98/ME gaming machines, thats assuming the install goes well without any hiccups.

  • @Itsmuchmore
    @Itsmuchmore3 жыл бұрын

    Great project, we are looking forward to build our own retro gaming pc soon as want to play some 3dfx MMX games

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario5 жыл бұрын

    Man out standing work here!

  • @pierregrobbelaar9116
    @pierregrobbelaar91165 жыл бұрын

    Really good project.I personally would like to see how voodoo 3 stack up in older games as that was one of my favorite cards back in the day.

  • @hansturpyn5455
    @hansturpyn54555 жыл бұрын

    Unreal, one of my firs and favorite games. Also check the expansions "return to napali" etc... I still have my Voodoo 2 card on the schelf from back in the time. Its like an ornament, a piece of history, a fossil

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is indeed a great game! I trid playing it properly on Voodoo 3 a while ago, didn't get far, found it very difficult, even on easy :P Guess I'm spoilt by modern games.

  • @georgemaragos2378
    @georgemaragos23785 жыл бұрын

    Hi All I though i was going well with Win98 running SMOOTHLY on a Pentium 2 and connecting to most of my XP / Win7 / Win10 machines via cat 5. Well done Phil Regards George

  • @Kossays
    @Kossays5 жыл бұрын

    such a nice video phil, now i have hope xD, i was searching for expensive old parts, never find what i really need or want, now while im watching u im also watching my lga755 dual core or core 2 duo with ddr2 and no agp port that i have here. Time to save some money

  • @iceManSwag
    @iceManSwag3 жыл бұрын

    I remember I had a Pentium 2 450Mhz, 128Mb of ram I think, Intel board, Creative SB Live!, AGP Creative Riva TNT 2 Ultra 32Mb & PCI Diamond 3DFX VooDoo 2 12Mb. I remember my score with the TNT2 Ultra was about 1600 3D Marks in 3DMark 2000. So 8323 points in 3DMark 2000 would be unreal in those days! Really fun build you made for this video!

  • @jilianjing7549
    @jilianjing75495 жыл бұрын

    Gr8 video mate! I've personally got a HP DC5800 and they have drivers for windows 2000. Pretty cool in my opinion as I got it for free from a school.

  • @KokoroKatsura

    @KokoroKatsura

    5 жыл бұрын

    A N I M E N I M E

  • @TRULYMORTAL
    @TRULYMORTAL5 жыл бұрын

    Looks amazing! Great job!

  • @markm0000
    @markm00005 жыл бұрын

    I got a old Pentium 3 desktop and I'm never selling it. It's the last tangible thing I have from my childhood.

  • @nitinchopra4062
    @nitinchopra40625 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, great video as always thanks. What I would like to see further is if you could put the 750 ti in there and create a win 98/ XP dual boot retro machine.

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal5 жыл бұрын

    I always loved win98, win xp, win7 and good old 775, some technology bits and pieces are just timeless. 775+win98 setup? definitely yes, thank you Phil, another great video

  • @pawelnotts
    @pawelnotts4 жыл бұрын

    This is quite interesting. It just gave new meaning to my old C2D setup I have in the attic! That CPU though - still can't get over how it went from 1.86GHz to over 3GHz on day one and carried on working flawlessly for nearly 6 years :) (Intel E6320)

  • @bdhale34
    @bdhale345 жыл бұрын

    Steam had the entire unreal collection selling for less than a tenner a while back I had to grab it. Unreal Gold, Unreal 2, Unreal Tournament, Unreal Tournament 2004 and Unreal Tournament 3, all of them run under windows 10 on modern hardware.

  • @adventureoflinkmk2

    @adventureoflinkmk2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but you have to get around the wacky mouse controls on ut99.. search Google or duckduckgo for it

  • @AxiomofDiscord
    @AxiomofDiscord5 жыл бұрын

    Socket A around here is still rather hard to find. I got one that is doing alright one that needs some caps replaced on the motherboard near the power connector. Both boot the latter just tends to hardlock eventually sooner the more you push it. I think outside emulation my Pentium 4 system will be enough and it has plenty of cheap parts so I can keep my rarer stuff boxed up. I do have to thank you every time that I am commenting to you and mentioning that Pentium 4 you and a few other people walked me through getting it to cooperate. It is a cheap dell that does not support win9x out the box, but can be coaxed into it. Thank you for protecting my treasures and allowing me to retro game still.

  • @Henk717
    @Henk7174 жыл бұрын

    Very exciting, this inspired me to reassemble my old Core i5-2500 PC. Worst case scenario i got the spare lan party PC i planned to build anyway. Best case scenaro the YMF744 will work in it as well as Windows 98 and ill be able to slow it down enough for DOS Gaming. In a best case scenario ill buy a second PCI GPU for Windows 98 gaming for that machine and see if i can make it the ultimate timemachine. Because one system that can do MS-DOS all the way up to Windows 10 gaming on low/medium would be the ultimate dream PC of mine. I assume the likelyness it will work and play nice to be quite low, but given i have the parts anyway and its a fun hobby it won't hurt to give it a go.

  • @jangelelcangry
    @jangelelcangry5 жыл бұрын

    I love old operating systems running on newer hardware.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions4075 жыл бұрын

    Very cool. That said, I'm on the verge of hopefully having a board for a socket a build for a 400fsb xp 3200+. Even so, Windows XP is the oldest i think I would stick with for bare metal, unless by some miracle i can get myself a working 3dfx card.

  • @mikemac2188
    @mikemac21885 жыл бұрын

    WOW this is quite impressive Definitely have an open mind I typically run a dual booted pentium 4 for my windows 98 and windows XP games however for my slower windows 98 games I have a compact K6 For some of the older programs and games that I run into problems with on the dual booted Pentium 4. This video Definitely gives me some ideas LOL.😎🍻👍

  • @gandalfgaming5403
    @gandalfgaming54035 жыл бұрын

    Im still rocking Xeon X5460 8GB DDR3 and GTX 960. Can play almost every game.. 💖💖💖

  • @solofalcon
    @solofalcon5 жыл бұрын

    this guy lives 10+ years in the past and i love it.

  • @volf3r505
    @volf3r5055 жыл бұрын

    @PhilsComputerLab -- It is not confused - the entire CORE /Core 2 line of CPU's are build from the ashes of PENTIUM 3 TUALATIN .... There were huge roars around the interwebz when GTA IV came out back in 2008 - initially the game read Core 2 DUO/QUADs as P III XEONs The entire Core 2/Core solo/Core 2 quad/CORE -i lineup is Family 6 - for comparison NET BURST is Family 15 and this family has never been heard again since it was discontinued about 13-14 years ago . Family 6 of Intel CPUs hails all the way back to 1995-1996 - if I remember correctly it started with Pentium PRO

  • @Crylhound
    @Crylhound5 жыл бұрын

    The raytracing looks awesome 😍

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    3DFX ON

  • @zombee38
    @zombee385 жыл бұрын

    You know your craft Phil !

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting project! :)

  • @PixelPipes
    @PixelPipes5 жыл бұрын

    Clever idea just using the PCI slots. Really frees up your choice of motherboards.

  • @WalnutSpice
    @WalnutSpice5 жыл бұрын

    And here I am building a lil Core 2 Quad with a 750ti and SSDs. You got the right idea here

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @fewyearsbehind9333
    @fewyearsbehind93335 жыл бұрын

    Hey Guays. Hey Phil. You know whats up Phil? Whats up Guays? Thumb up Phil. Thumbs up.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Wussup :v

  • @Viewer19
    @Viewer195 жыл бұрын

    More this is good stuff thanks

  • @mbe102
    @mbe1025 жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic :O

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak5 жыл бұрын

    As always nice work Phil. Maybe for a future vid you could do a socket 939 w/AGP 4x or 8x and running 98 or XP.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    I already did that :D Maybe it was 754 though, but yea, same concept.

  • @mesterak

    @mesterak

    5 жыл бұрын

    PhilsComputerLab ok, then how about a vid on one of those mini ITX motherboards that has just one PCI slot. A lot of those have a weak CPU that may be soldered on and may only take up to 1GB or 2GB of ram? I don’t think I’ve seen many vids on boards like that.

  • @amigoface
    @amigoface5 жыл бұрын

    man ! that's win98 starting music

  • @Bearthedancingman
    @Bearthedancingman5 жыл бұрын

    Ha. This is super cool. I have an old Core 2 Quad Q6950 with a GT-440 1gb and 8gb of DDR2-1066 ram and a 750gb hdd @7200rpm. It's running Windows XP and Ubuntu. I use it to play classic Command & Conquer Red Alert.

  • @EnochDew
    @EnochDew5 жыл бұрын

    Uncanny! I'm working on a socket 775 Windows 98 build (Pentium 4 3Ghz) with a Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (SB0100), Geforce 6200, and 128GB SSD. I have to admit it's not completely coincidence, as it has been influenced by your videos. Maybe I should make a video of it. It's a Micro-ATX build.

  • @GatorMilk

    @GatorMilk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Use a 1GB SSHD instead, W98 cannot trim on an SSD, but it is handled by hardware on SSHDs.

  • @dmitrijolejnitsch3313
    @dmitrijolejnitsch33135 жыл бұрын

    Cool pumped retro stuff, try to reshade some old games like Quake 3, Unreal 2 or AVP Redux to run on this system - interesting to see results.

  • @jhonnyxyz
    @jhonnyxyz5 жыл бұрын

    Great work Phil. Please go for a Voodoo 2 SLI setup. Do you have a original VGA cable to use the Voodoo card as 3D GPU on the same monitor?

  • @korvintorne124
    @korvintorne1245 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, Many thanks for this vid. Like many have said, it as inspired me to build my own Retro PC. I was wondering if you could provide some advice? In the absence of being able to get my hands on a GA-P43T Motherboard, is there another board that you could recommend that has the same features? Mainly downclocking and PCI ports as I have 2 x Voodoo2s that I would like to use along with the sound card and video card. Many thanks.

  • @FrekansTV
    @FrekansTV5 жыл бұрын

    I need your bootloader advice for msdos windows 95 and 98 boot. Anyway i love yout work.

  • @JimProfit357
    @JimProfit3575 жыл бұрын

    I love the back to back videos of XP on Haswell, and 98 on Core2Quad, Although I was quite aware of such possibilites, I think this is really opening up people's eyes to see successful projects like that. Regarding DOS sound compatibility, would you say that the Aureal Vortex would be a better choice than the later Soundblaster cards? I'm always on the fence on that kind of build, to go with an Audigy 2 for the best 98 multichannel EAX sound, or to go with the Vortex 2 or YMF744, with some basic DOS compatibility and even a wavetable header on some cards...

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea every option has pros and cons. I think the first thing I want to look at is getting basic FM support. I think that should work pretty easily. Sound Blaster compatibility is much more difficult, the Vortex 2 is pretty high up there in terms of compatibility.

  • @TheBigupz
    @TheBigupz5 жыл бұрын

    i just Bought a Dell XPS 630i chassy / psu, waiting for its original motherboard with a Core 2 Quad, and trying to fix a weird 9800 GX2 mid 2000 gaming will be a blast!

  • @daPabOu
    @daPabOu4 жыл бұрын

    I encountered the same problem with the SB16 Emulation device. It was an IRQ-relating thing. Had to specify them manually in the properties of the device and then voila, I had sound in DOS games ;-)

  • @Matt08719801
    @Matt087198015 жыл бұрын

    DG Voodoo on xp and 7 seems to solve a lot of problems with glide games , Moto racer 2 works real well on 7 ultimate 64 , plus the widescreen and filter options help spruce the graphics up a lot on bigger screens

  • @reddev5420
    @reddev54205 жыл бұрын

    Olden Goldies ftw!

  • @UndieingLust
    @UndieingLust5 жыл бұрын

    I love older computer with the Bare PCBs. Rather than the modern stuff covered in massive heat sinks and RGB Lights.

  • @Konkretertyp

    @Konkretertyp

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, the massive heatsinks are necessary, but i agree with the RGB lights, it is just silly.

  • @pagb666
    @pagb6665 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to get home and see how that voodoo scales up to oblivion when paired with that cpu.

  • @pagb666

    @pagb666

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was not disappointed

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer5 жыл бұрын

    Ohh thanks Phil for giving us so many options! The ASRock 775 with PCI and AGP would be a good option right? It would be possible to run DOS games in such a system or the way those PCI are handled limit somehow the way old sound card and VGA worked?

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you have AGP, of course this is much better!

  • @RWL2012
    @RWL20125 жыл бұрын

    barevids (audio channel) livestreams amplifier repair from an X5470 and here you are suggesting people install Windows 98 on a quad core 775/771 system :-P Edit: Your idea is a really good one for the reason you mentioned!

  • @GAMMAXII
    @GAMMAXII4 жыл бұрын

    I was able to get a 7600 GS PCIe to run under 98 with a EVGA Nforce 610i with the unoffical nvidia drivers. Pretty solid

  • @teknoman117
    @teknoman1175 жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of purchasing 2 GB of ram for my retro pc and had a lot of fun playing with the various hacks to get win98 to ignore beyond 512 MB so it'll actually run. I went with a Athlon XP 2600+, abit VA-10, and a Radeon 9700 Pro for my system (everything has native win98 drivers). It still crashes a lot under win 98 se, but it's rock solid under Win 2K. Thankfully most of my games work on win2k. Built it to play through all the Mechwarrior games since Mechwarrior 5 is coming out hopefully this year.

  • @karlnigan
    @karlnigan5 жыл бұрын

    Hey p4 3.8ghz on socket 775 might be faster on single core then. This could be a nice video to benchmark different 775 CPU under w98se. I have a dell dimension with a p4 Northwood 3.2ghz, it has never work under w98, only under wME, but that was may be due to the Sata controller and sp3 patch that I didn't know. Thanks for sharing all these useful information.

  • @TheDemocrab
    @TheDemocrab5 жыл бұрын

    Oh man. You've given me an idea when I do a platform upgrade and when I can follow through, I'll absolutely try to get some benchmarks, etc from it. Basically, grab a PCIe 1x to 2xPCI adapter card, a Voodoo and a older GeForce or Radeon and plug it into a modern motherboard, use IOMMU virtualisation to passthrough the retro GPUs and make a Win98SE VM to game on at native performance using your normal desktop. Same kinda idea behind the Linux gamers who throw a second GPU in for passthrough to a Windows VM for gaming. Great video man! Now I'm going to start looking more into this so I can muck around with this idea when I get an IOMMU capable platform.

  • @NJRoadfan
    @NJRoadfan5 жыл бұрын

    Someone on MSFN has Chipset INF packs for the 3 and 4 Series Intel Chipsets. SB16 emulation can be used under Windows 98 on these platforms, its just the usual Creative driver hassles to get them working (usually something else is grabbing IRQ 5).

  • @shiveringisles3509
    @shiveringisles35095 жыл бұрын

    this motherboard seems a gem, DDR3 memory, IDE, floppy, can run Win 98/Voodoo 2. Sadly without the AGP slot, PCI versions of these old graphics card are harder to find depending on location. There are some G41 motherboards that have ISA slots but only support XP..

  • @ByteSizeThoughts
    @ByteSizeThoughts4 жыл бұрын

    I still have a core2quad with its original Vista install. I need to triple boot it for win98, XP and Vista (maybe even windows 7/10) at some point!

  • @Matt08719801
    @Matt087198015 жыл бұрын

    i found a GTX 460 1gb card to be the sweet spot for windows xp gaming , and 2 gtx 1080s in SLI for windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit :)

  • @theottergames1969
    @theottergames19695 жыл бұрын

    I think this voodoo2 feels bit lonely there. It need second one to sli ;)

  • @PiercedJedi
    @PiercedJedi5 жыл бұрын

    this is very encouraging because I have several Socket 775 motherboards and I even have an AMD machine with integrated GeForce 6200 GPU on the motherboard, I would love to get something working with that AMD system but every time I've tried vanilla Win98 SE I run into problems on everything I own except an old Celeron 500Mhz machine that I only have 32MB of ram for...

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    Integrated 6200? Hmm this is very interesting.

  • @EscapeVelo
    @EscapeVelo5 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @fgsaramago
    @fgsaramago5 жыл бұрын

    Last year I set out to build the best possible windows 98 PC. It's a socket 775, with an Asus Commando motherboard and an overclocked x3460 and 8gb RAM. Anything after a P965 chipset can have issues with Windows 98 so to play it safe I've stuck to P965

  • @InfiniteClouds
    @InfiniteClouds5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, how does the FX5500 compare to AGP Geforce cards? Is it powerful enough for higher resolution nGlide? What - - if any -- AGP card does it compare to?

  • @lemonmusicrocks97
    @lemonmusicrocks975 жыл бұрын

    i really love the c2q for the price

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita5 жыл бұрын

    lol impressive. now I'm curious if something as modern as the athlon 200ge on the AM4 patform would work.

  • @lucaspam
    @lucaspam5 жыл бұрын

    I think this could also be a DOS gaming machine. What do you think Phil? Maybe with opl3 and MIDI? I think it's possible! Thanks, Phil!

  • @Gooberslot
    @Gooberslot5 жыл бұрын

    You're a mad man. :D

  • @GodOfGamingBG
    @GodOfGamingBG5 жыл бұрын

    I have a test rig at the moment with a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D mobo, Athlon 64 3500+, 2x512 ram, and heres the interesting bits, nvidia 7900GS pcie, audigy 2 zs, and an ageia physx card, I have win98se and winXP dualboot, getting win98se to work on that was a pain in the ass but it does work now. Win9x gaming performance is insane, even in glide games with nglide wrapper, but Im not too sure how the game compatibility would turn out, Ive heard lots of bad things about using nvidia 6000 and 7000 series cards for win9x gaming, we'll see, it's just a test build

  • @nitinchopra4062

    @nitinchopra4062

    5 жыл бұрын

    i have the same with geforce 6800 gs AGP, the drivers are so screwed up that not even 3d mark 99, 2000 and 2001 one ran properly under win 98 and xp. so i have finally bought geforce 4 Ti 4200 128mb and everything works, even one the same driver version. System is athlon 64 4000+, ti 4200, 1 gb ram, audigy 2

  • @GodOfGamingBG

    @GodOfGamingBG

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nitinchopra4062 running the 3d marks was the first thing I did after I got this to work, and they all ran fine, got crazy high scores in all of them

  • @nitinchopra4062

    @nitinchopra4062

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@GodOfGamingBG thats great, one of the reason they have issues is due to the 6 and 7 series using a bridge chip for pcie to agp, but you don't have that issue since u have native pcie. i thought pcie was not compatible with wiin98, you are begin8ng to change that...

  • @GodOfGamingBG

    @GodOfGamingBG

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nitinchopra4062 yeah, the driver wouldnt detect the card, had to edit it to manually add the card device string and then to manually force install it from the device manager, but got it to work

  • @SudosFTW
    @SudosFTW5 жыл бұрын

    the PNY FX5200 256MB cards all have a 128-bit VRAM bus if it's the blue-PCB, fanless, dual VGA model.

  • @Lady_Zenith
    @Lady_Zenith5 жыл бұрын

    Good build Phil, I have very similar as one of my main retro machines, tho, not bragging I would say better. Its based on the gigabyte GA-8I865GME-775-RH board, which is 865 chipset with core2 support so full native win98 support. I run there GF6800GT AGP, 2x voodoo2 SLI and SB live. The advantage of i865 is that you can use AGP cards and the DOS sound under SB-live in DOS and win98 also works so its it good DOS/WIN98/XP combo retro machine with really good performance. I use E4400 there overclocked to FSB266 so 2,66Ghz. Generally, using multicore or multiCPU setup on win98 does no harm. The OS cannot use more than 1 but it also does no harm and when it boots it sets them all to sleep so they do not even use much of extra power. So running even quad is totally OK. And about this board, get them while they are still cheap. Most people do not know Gigabyte made those I865 Core2 boards, most people know only about the asrock ones and they are already packing a premium. Also, about windows 98 and 1GB of RAM. Win98SE boot fine with 1GB of ram, but not over 1GB. The internal limitation is that single process/app cannot use more than 512MB, but you usually have more things running, so around 768MB is optimal maximum for windows 98. If the machine has more than 1GB you need memory managers like HIMEMX that can limit the amount of RAM used, otherwise it will not boot. I did not find the unofficial service packs to be much of a help. In my win98 it usually crashed, doest not install completely and generally does more harm than good. Since Win98SE are already stable from the get go, I use them stock ,just install newer directX, NTFS read driver and USB mass storage drivers and thats it. No service packs or patches.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've actually done a few projects with the i865 chipset, it is indeed a great platform for Windows 98 SE!

  • @filletdadivorcedfather3957
    @filletdadivorcedfather39572 жыл бұрын

    Im lucky to have a q9400 4gb ddr2 machine, they are sick at compatibility and i dont have to troubleshoot for like a complete day to make garage run in my main rig

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis26355 жыл бұрын

    Since I knew Windows 98 could only support a single core in use I specced myself a Pentium 4. With that I limited myself to one with an AGP slot so I could use a Geforce 4 for the best Windows compatibility. Unfortunately Voodoo graphics cards are rather rare and expensive these days so I could not go down that route.

  • @benjaminslayton4335
    @benjaminslayton43355 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome! Is it possible to use unaddressed memory as a RAM drive? What if I had 4GB and could use 2-3GB as a RAM drive to load the OS and games into? It would be stupid fast!

  • @RetroTinkerer

    @RetroTinkerer

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that you need that your OS recognize all that memory so an utility can use that excessive amount of RAM as a ramdrive.

  • @arnislacis9064
    @arnislacis90645 ай бұрын

    This is real Ultimate Windows 98 PC, because it have one of the fastest, and latest Core 2 cpu.

  • @eulondon
    @eulondon5 жыл бұрын

    Just bought my first 3DFx. A Voodoo 5500 AGP version. I have one question: Can I plug it in AGP 8x. Motherboard os GA-7VT600 Triton. From what I remember AGP has this voltages you would need to be careful. What better place to ask than here with the experts used to it.

  • @petrkubena
    @petrkubena5 жыл бұрын

    Just a month ago I created WindowsME/WindowsXP/Lubuntu multiboot system with Athlon XP, 512MB RAM and Velocity 100(Lubuntu is used as a backup/restore system, where with simple dd command I can backup whole partition with Win98/WinXP and restore it if becomes unstable). Later I switched to nvidia, because Velocity had problem displaying 1920x1080 resolution (it produced large black borders on left and right, V3 same thing, V5 was ok but that was basicaly trash build from not very valuable parts and I don't want to loose it). I can imagine very similar build to yours can be made to work well with most Win98 and WinXP era games. It would probably need a proper PCIE GPU that would be used only for 2D under Win98 + Voodoo2 SLI for anything under Win98. RAM can be problem with 1G Win98 limit.

  • @Jacob-rt6on
    @Jacob-rt6on5 жыл бұрын

    I still have a pc with a core 2 quad q6600, decided to put an rx 580 in it to see what it can still manage and it surprisingly can run siege surprisingly well

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    There are quite a few Socket 775 videos on the channel, you should check them out :D

  • @Jacob-rt6on

    @Jacob-rt6on

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab nice, I have a dell optiplex 755 with a core 2 duo and an Acer that I'm unsure what it is I've looked up the number on the Acer website but it comes up blank, but it's the one with a core 2 quad q6600 that I did the tape mod to make it run 3.0ghz

  • @Wushu-viking
    @Wushu-viking5 жыл бұрын

    Phil, is it possible to use the PCI-E slot for main GPU @ Win10, and the PCI slot for main GPU @Win98. It might need to be changed in Bios (*default graphics adapter) ? I'm wondering if you have tried it. I have never. I don't have a PCI video card. (besides the one I use in my Pentium 133 system) If that's the case, it is possible to have a Win98(*+DOS"), WinXP and Win10 system - all 3(*4) in one :)

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah I'm not much into multi OS systems, just not that interesting to me :D

  • @Bewefau
    @Bewefau5 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to do something like that with my voodoo 4 4500. I'm curious how the GPU setup works. Does it matter which GPU you plug your monitor into? I wanted to use my 3dfx for ice wind dale and other D&D games but need NVIDIA for final fantasy 11. How do you make the system use the card you want?

  • @davidschaper3238
    @davidschaper32385 жыл бұрын

    I like the 775i65G with an AGP card better. Which do you prefer?

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