Trying to put the eggs/yeast/dextrose equation together in my mind. if you have 6 grow jars and 500 ml, that is 83.3 ml each, yes? Or am I off base? I went ahead and followed the video and put 36 ml in each jar, so I might be light on nutrients. TIA for your input.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

No, I did only 36 ml. per jar of the nutrient broth with both recipes along with 30 grams of dry rice. I made extra broth because I was following a recipe. You can freeze the broth for later use if you have extra.

@stevejenkins8380

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Hey, thanks! Appreciate the answer. Love your videos!

@duselwusel4569

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms yeah, i wondered too if you meant 1:1,2 volumetrically or in weight.

Cordyceps militaris growing techniques are constantly evolving and improving. One thing I would change doing this process again would be to add 10 ccs of liquid culture to jars this size instead of 3-5 ccs. Some strains seem to want to stall out when using the lesser amount. For quart jars some people are recommending as high as 20 ccs of LC with this recipe.

@IsaiahDanielJohnson

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping us updated

This video was extremely helpful, thanks for taking the time to record and share.

Thank you! Really appreciate this videos man. Can't express that enough.

So happy to find this tonight! Was just wondering how I was going to do this without a flow hood. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Love your videos, thank you, and keep up the great work :)

Starting from 17:40 on this video what you are showing is pure art to my eyes. I watch it and feel calm great video!

I always learn from your video. Thank you. God bless you.

I like the egg recipe. It's really simple and effective

Cordyceps take the cake! There’s just something really cool about mushrooms growing on little cakes, regardless of the species. Of course the yields are low, but a lot of us started there, and whether it’s oysters, lions mane, or... y’know.... the others, it’s just fun! And now these cordyceps cakes might be the most aesthetically inretesting of all mushroom cakes! Really cool!

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

It was really interesting to see how the different nutrient broth recipes effected the fruit body morphology. Always fun to experiment.

@Lexington-Felix

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms No worries and I now completely understand sorry about that! Love the content you provide thanks for the info. New to the community and still learning to navigate it. Mush love ❤️ 🍄

Greetings all! I have recently completed a cordyceps grow using 2 different recipes. They both turned out amazing with one being the Cordycake tek. Video of it in my channel. Thanks a ton for all of your wisdom Renegade! You're doing great work!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad it worked for you. I will check out your video.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Those were some nice jars, I would have commented there but you have comments turned off. One advantage of the egg recipe is it's simplicity for those who don't want to buy a bunch of ingredients but still get nice consistent yields.

@HelmetInTheBush555

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks man. I have since used those jars to expand my bought syringes for liquid culture using the gasket maker. All of your insight is enlightening and I want to just piggie back real science to showcase things that work along with my own failures if they occur. My videos will get better as we go on this journey. I'll turn on the comments also. Thanks for the mentorship.

I'm a bit late but this is brilliant. Greetings from the UK.

@jimbobsquarepants6052

11 ай бұрын

Watched several now and must put it to the test. 👍

love your videos -- truly great information. Could you do some about post harvest processing on how you make teas, tinctures, etc and how you use the different varieties?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely, I've been planning some vids along those lines, just been busy growing. Soon tho 👍

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

The cordyceps can be dried then used to make a beautiful orange tea or tincture. They can also be cooked and I discovered their completely delicious. Lots of people like to use them in soup and pasta dishes.

@MrGrumpyFunny

7 ай бұрын

Could you also add how to get spores/ tissue to keep cordyceps in your mushroom library (long term storage)?@@RenegadeMushrooms

@RenegadeMushrooms

7 ай бұрын

@@MrGrumpyFunny It's complicated and I don't do it. I purchase my cultures from reputable breeders. Militaris breeding is done through ascospore pairings on agar, but cultures senesce quickly when expanded so the breeding has to be constant in order to keep a regular supply of strong cultures. Check out TerrestrialFungi.com

I'm hoping to get back into medicinal mushrooms after I finish my outdoor pond. I had to take a break due to my health issues. Thanks for doing these videos. I did try the rice cooker method before and it all was contaminated.

@RenegadeMushrooms

3 ай бұрын

If you're having contam issues, I recommend trying the Cordycake method: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaiblNGEf5mvYdI.html

I LOVE your videos! I'm wondering about the nutritional value of egg compared to the other. Eggs have soooooo many nutrients that I can see the advantages. Cholesterol for the BRAIN! Thanks so much for your AWESOME videos!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you are enjoying the videos 😁 I'm not sure exactly on what the nutritional differences are, but substrate definitely influences the medicinal content of the mushrooms. With Cordyceps, people are often most interested in Cordycepin content. I recently saw a study where substrate supplemented with dried moth pupae powder significantly increased Cordycepin content vs. other supplemented substrates. Lots of cool research going on with Cordyceps now which is awesome. Just 10 years ago, people thought they were too difficult to bother trying to grow.

@pamsunstrom2554

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms I had this funny thought on those "beefier" cordyceps with the eggs. Think "MUSCLES" ! Protein builds muscles and those are bicep cordyceps! LOL!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@pamsunstrom2554 I'm making some tincture from those Cordyceps now, so I'll let you know if it gives me MUSCLES! 😁

14:45 you can retrain the strain to grow on the on the egg based rice. After a couple gens it will produce much healthier looking guys

@RenegadeMushrooms

12 күн бұрын

Yeah that makes sense. Never attempted it myself but I've heard this being done with other species. Fungi seem to rapidly develop the enzymes to efficiently digest substrates they are continually exposed to.

following your process, tysm man! spread out masters to lc 4days ago, 2 jars, one is taking off :D

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, they are really fun to grow and I'm loving the medicinal tincture I made from them. Good luck on your grow. Keep me posted how you make out.

@duselwusel4569

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms will both update you and watch more of your videos :) how much LC do inoculate with? is 3 enough? any suggestions for what i can do with the rest of LC i cannot use in jars because i have a limited amount of them (no flowhood yet)?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@duselwusel4569 Buy more jars 😁 , nah I would just hold it in the fridge for your next grow. It may senesce a little over time, but as long as you don't expand it again, it should be fine for your next grow. I used 3 to 5 ccs for jars this size, but some people go heavier. That seemed to work OK for me. You could experiment and go like 10ccs on a few and see how they do.

@duselwusel4569

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms if already got so many of them, my whole aparment is starting to be filled with growbags, jars, pellets, lc and lighting on timers :p ok, i thought it would be basically inactive after this 10day timeframe so i was kinda in a hurry. Will build a flowhood for ricecooker tek but soon foraging season starts with morels and up we go until oktober ^^. i can keep you updated on how it worked out

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@duselwusel4569 Reminds of when I first started out. I remember sleeping next to tubs of enoki and pink oysters in a tiny apartment 😂 No, your Cordy LC will not be inactive after the 10 day window. That's just a recommendation for BEST results. If you use it later, your yields may be a bit lower, but you should still get nice fruits. It's the over-expansion that really kills off the viability of the culture quickly. Like if you kept expanding your LC to more and more jars.

Thank you so very much! I'm grateful for all the helpful knowledge. Inoculating my jar s today. Using the egg base recipe. Can I only get 1 flush out of them?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

You can go for two but second flushes with Cordys take a long time, not like oysters. Commercial growers don't consider second flushes worth the trouble, but if you're just growing for yourself, you can give it a go.

Hi Renegade, couple comments. I've got a whole tent full of cordyceps going that I did in batches of a half dozen jars each or so. So far I've lost a total of two jars to contamination but all four of the bins are looking bad. One was almost completely covered in bright orange and also egg yolk yellow mycelium. But there was a couple spots that wouldn't fill in. Suspicious I checked the bottom and see a speck of red contamination! I knew it was too good to be true. The other three bins did not fully colonize even after 3 weeks growth. They have a slightly fermented bogus smell to them. I'm not waiting to see the visible contams I just know they're going to fail so I remove them all. After a moment of sadness I recovered deciding instead to focus my energy on the ones that are good. I'm starting to realize if I don't see complete colonation within a week's time there's a pretty good chance contamination is present. Just wanted to pass that along

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, sounds like you are having bacterial issues. Are you using the rice cooker method or the jar sterilization method?

Got a like for the tinfoil hats 😁 Awesome video thanks

As always, thanks for sharing. Are there any other mushroom(s) that could be grown using this tek?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely, you would just want to gear your nutrient broth toward the nutritional requirements of whatever species you're growing. The catch is, it's low yield when compared to other methods, but it's also fairly simple and fool-proof. Enoki works well with this method.

grew up with that blender lol.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Sadly it has given up the ghost since the filming of this video. We have a new nutribullet now that is not nearly as cool as the old one.

@chuckinshanks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the free mycology lessons and wealth of knowledge! Mushrooms recently saved my life. Rest in Peace, Blender.

I’m a noob could be way off base but wondering if there anything that could work as a liner to help prevent the side pins? That could produce more fruits on the top surface? What would survive in the PC? Maybe an old spawn bag or something? This could be a very cool side project. Thanks for all your videos man I have learned a lot from them. Hope you know it’s appreciated!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

It would have to be something that would contract as the substrate contracts, tough to pull off probably. Glad you are getting something out of the vids 👍

Did you try to get another fruiting progress for the Cordycakes?

@RenegadeMushrooms

7 ай бұрын

I didn't end up going for a second flush with these cakes. What I harvest at the end of the video was my total yield.

Can you also eat the substrate? How many nutrients does the substrate still have?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Not sure on the substrate, but the fruits are edible. You would definitely want to cook it thoroughly and not use any substrate additives that would affect the edibility.

what temp did these colonize at / do you typically colonize cordys?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

I like 62 - 65 F for colonization and fruiting.

Can you grow lion nushroom? And is it possoble to make extract or grow for dry mushrooms

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Lions Mane video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGGF0sRse5urfJM.html As for starting a culture or cloning, you really want fresh mushroom.

Hey Renegade, is there a easier method to determine the amount of rice and broth needed for specific amounts of Liquid culture? So if I have about 300 MLS of L.C. how many jars should I prepare? Just wondering if there's a math equation to determine it? Like blank percent L.C. to blank amount of rice and broth? Thx

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

If your jars are the same size as mine figure on about 3 ccs per jar of LC. Then increase a accordingly. That's what I did and it worked fine, but some people use a lot higher ratio of LC. This worked for me, but you could also ask on the Cordyceps Growing FB Group to get some other perspectives.

Do you have any concerns with plastic leaching?

@RenegadeMushrooms

11 ай бұрын

Not personally, but I understand the concern. I always try to use glass when I can, but PP5 plastics are used all over the mushroom growing world so it kinda comes with the territory.

do you do anything with the cakes like pulverize and use the mycelium at all?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

No, I haven't done much with the cakes yet myself because I'm not sure of the edibility of the supplements I use in my standard nutrient broth recipe. The egg based substrate should be fine though, it's just eggs, nutritional yeast, and dextrose. I wouldn't eat the cakes directly though because of bacterial concerns, but they would work great for a tincture or something along those lines.

Do you wait till you see full colonization on the top of your rice before moving it to the lights? Or do you move it to the lights within a certain time frame regardless what you see? Thank you as always for your guidance

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Lately, I haven't been incubating more than three days in the dark, then they go under the lights regardless of colonization. Some people on the FB group only go one day in the dark.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms kk thx

and great videos 😎 keep it up! Yes, I'm afraid because some of the recipes are not the cheapest, I would like to have a real recipe directly and not possibly misunderstand something, so I'm afraid that I won't be able to bring it to fruition. Don't the eggs get hard if you sterilize them in the cooker? or does it not matter similar to agar? So far I have only bred wood decomposed and P.C 😁 no one else now have a strain cordyceps there! and rice also already eggs not much else have to know what exactly I need and how I proceed so quantities 😎

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Try that egg recipe, it's simple and cheap if you're going to grow in jars. Temperature and good genetics are critical. Try to keep it 60 - 65 F, and buy a good culture. Kaizen Cordyceps is good, they are in England. The egg recipe does turn into a solid cake after PC similar to agar, but the mycelium rips through it.

@akapilzlover187

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Yes super cool thing I will do that I have almost everything there now and then it starts 💪 wait for an addition then I have everything thank you

I'm having a hard time getting the right amount of liquid culture onto the rice. Apparently the needle I tried was way too small so I just had to eyeball by pouring it from my liquid culture jar. This has proved to work over 95% of the time but I'm looking for a suggestions on how to know I'm adding just the right amount. Some of my cakes didn't fully colonize and I'm wondering if I either added too much or not enough liquid culture. Thanks for everything you're my go-to for cordyceps

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about when you add the nutrient broth to the rice before putting in the PC? Or, after the PC, when you squirt your liquid culture through the injection port?

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms I'm referring to adding the L.C. what size needle should I using to draw up the L.C. from the jar? I suspect the contams as well as lack of colonization I'm seeing relate to too much or not enough L.C. being added. Because I'm running about 5 different strains and the results are varied. Some jars look great and others not. Or else I'd suspect contams in the L.C. itself

does it matter if its corn dextrose, potatoe dextrose etc?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know there were different kinds, but no it shouldn't matter.

can i substitute dextrose powder with liquid glucose? if yes then what ratio? thanks in advance

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Not sure on the glucose. I would recommend you asking on the Cordyceps Growers FB Group. People their are very knowledgeable on nutritional requirements.

Do you think that leaving the jars by a window (without much direct sun though) is okay, or is the artificial light needed?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Just the light that naturally fills a room would be fine. I wouldn't put them near a window though because of the temp swings and risk of direct light and associated heating/condensation.

What if u mixed the egg with the broth and do u take the lid off to fan them

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

There a ton of recipe possibilities and it's fun to play with different ingredients. Try it out! The lids never come off until picking time. The filter patch in the lid gives them all the air exchange they need.

Where may I be able to find a culture that can be shiped to Canada?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Send an email to: TerrestrialFungi@gmail.com Ryan will hook you up.

Great video! When growing cordys, are the cakes one and done grows or can the cakes produce more fruits?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

They will produce a second flush, but it takes a while and is less productive than the 1st. People growing commercially generally don't bother from what I've heard. If you're just growing for fun though, give it a try.

@mitchellcollar2706

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms thank you for the info I really appreciate it. ❤️

Can you get a 2nd flush with this? Would the yield be worth the wait?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 ай бұрын

You can, but the yield is generally considered not worth the wait if you are trying to grow for volume.

Where did you learn to grow Cordyceps?

@RenegadeMushrooms

3 ай бұрын

Picked things up from lots of different places and then a good bit of trial and error. People on shroomery started having limited success like 15 years ago, lately it's really taken off. Mostly online research.

Outstanding grow! Can the egg broth be applied to the rice cooker tek?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I dont think it would work well because the egg hardens right up during cooking, but it might be a fun experiment to try.

@orionsbelt3827

9 ай бұрын

I tried egg broth in rice cooker. Not ideal as it burns easily. The way to not burn is reduce cooking time but that also allows the possibility of contamination. You may have already figured this out but figured I’d mention my experience

Hey bro, thanks for the video! I used your egg broth recipe and after 7 days the colonization stagnated. It's now the 10th day. There's a bit of mist on the side of the jar, but very little. Should I mist in a still air box to help the growth or is it dangerous to contaminate? I'll be using distilled water with 70% of the cake colonized

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Mine didn't stall out like that but I've heard of that happening. I would inject another 5 ccs of LC in there and swirl it around. That may get them over the hump. If you're doing quart jars I see people recommending around 20 ccs of LC per jar which is a lot more than what I used in this video.

@Gvidas28

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms thank you brother. Do you think it is ok just to spray distilled water mist on it after it is 100% colonized?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@Gvidas28 I would not do that unless it looks like they are hopeless.

Hello, is there a store bought version of dextrose I can use instead of ordering online? Or some kind of alternative to the dextrose? Thank you.

@RenegadeMushrooms

7 ай бұрын

If you have a store nearby that has sausage making supplies, check there. Powdered dextrose is commonly used in making sausage.

@marcheattention

7 ай бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Awesome! Thanks for the tip.

Hey, great video again, thank for sharing. I have 2 questions, you are saying 30 grams of rice and 36 ml of broth, or 36 grams of broth? My other question is, you said that this recipe or the 'jar setup" could also be used for Enoki?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

It was 30 g. of brown rice to 36 ml. of nutrient broth and it worked out well. This will work for enoki with the correct strain and nutrient broth recipe but your yields will be relatively low. I did a similar grow recently in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqZkuZSOZLmop9I.html

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

Correction about your initial comment. I used 30 g. of brown rice to 36 ml. of nutrient broth. I did the nutrient broth by volume.

Can the mycelium be rehydrated to give another flush?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 ай бұрын

You can leave the cakes I'm the jars and they will eventually flush a second time. Second flushes with militaris aren't generally considered commercially viable, but if you're just growing for yourself, give it a try.

I tried the egg broth and when they came out of the P/C the cakes were not flat on the bottom of the jars🤔🤣🙃Not sure how to get them to sit flat, any ideas???? Of will they still grow on a slant 💁‍♀Mush love light and kindness always🙏💙🍄💙🙏

@RenegadeMushrooms

10 ай бұрын

I think a few of them did that to me too, but they eventually fell back in to place. Just inoculate them anyway, they will be fine I think.

Good stuff and I will surely try this. Just a little tip though: you can swap to grams on your scale, you should test it, it's a nice little unit of measurement. Comes with a decimal system attached. Roughly 7.7 billion people on earth use it already, and with your help we might just convince the rest!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I recklessly use US Standard and metric and switch back and forth, sometimes even in the same video. It might be petty, but as a citizen scientist in the good old US of A, I've had to learn to use both interchangeably, so I think everyone else should to.

I think my pressure cooker has gotten too hot many times as it's kind of lifted up until the bottom is nearly pointed. Now I'm having nothing but problems getting it up to temperature and staying there. It fluctuates wildly and has become a real pain in the butt

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Usually, they only warp when you run them dry which causes them to get too hot.

can you get numerous flushes from a cake

@RenegadeMushrooms

Ай бұрын

Yes you can but it takes a while. 2nd flushes generally aren't considered commercially viable but give it a go if you're just experimenting.

tried this on 6 jars with the egg method and everything went well (aside from the two I injected with mislabeled Lion's Mane LC instead of cordyceps LC -- was surprised that they actually grew lions mane on egg and brown rice!), but my cordyceps seem to have stalled out with like 2-5 fruits in each container. I have them below a window because I don't have any fancy lighting aside from some cheap LEDs in a grow tent. Any ideas?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get your culture, how old is it, and what are your temperatures? I would guess it's an issue with one of those factors. That is cool it grew Lions Mane, cool unintentional experiment 👍

@loganroberts3082

Жыл бұрын

Dude I must be the sloppiest mushroom grower. I have to show you what grew out of one jar. Do you have Instagram or email? Dm me @humanscientist - I somehow grew oysters on the rice but it must be a spore getting into the jar because the other jar from the same culture grew cordyceps!

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@loganroberts3082 That's weird stuff man. Bad sterile TEK I guess, but cool outcome.

Hope you are doing good today man! I have the broth mix from Appalachiangold. It says it can be mixed with 1 liter of water and can make 20 quart jars...how much should I use if I'm using your tek to make 6 of the plastic containers. I appreciate any help you can give.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

36 ml. of broth, and 30 g. of dry rice per jar. That ratio worked well for me.

@pacer8975

Жыл бұрын

How much LC for each jar?

How much LC per jar would you recommend? Sorry if I missed it even rewatched it maybe missed it twice lol😅

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's in there somewhere, but it was 3 ccs per jar. Some people use quite a bit more than that, but that worked for me.

@cryptobotboi4459

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks man I appreciate it.

Did you add 500ml of water or the total subtrate makes upto 500 ?

@RenegadeMushrooms

3 күн бұрын

The broth recipe makes 500 ml. and I had extra left over. Just make sure you add 36 ml. per jar.

Some of my bins got uneven colonization on top. Where some parts are thick and look good and others seem completely bare. Is that from likely contamination or with how I poured it poured in the liquid culture?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

If you are stirring your LC into your rice before packing in the bin, it should be getting evenly mixed throughout the rice. As long as your mixing it in well, any spots that don't colonize are likely because of bacteria.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms I shake the jar of L.C. then pour it onto the rice cake. I don't pour because I'm already nervous about contams. I need a reliable way to determine how much L.C. to add. Should the rice be (just wetted) or should there be enough liquid culture for it to accumulate on the bottom of the container? I've just been pouring it in in front of my flow hood. Then I swirl it around to distribute the culture. If I think there's too much liquid I pour some off. Its been working OK but I'd rather get 100% good results

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 I'm thinking the easiest way would to just get some larger needles and inject so you don't have to open your lid. I only used 3 ccs of LC for 30 grams of dry rice which is 10%, most people seem to have good luck with 25% LC, so like 7 to 8 ccs. I was on the low end of the spectrum for this grow but it still worked out. The bacteria could be getting in when you open the lid.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms what size needle do I need

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 12 or 14 gauge. Shroom Supply has 14 gauge.

Haven't even watched it yet..but awesome..I already know

Is it possible to reuse a cake after watering them?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

You can get a second flush by just waiting, but it takes a while and is not as effective as it is with other mushrooms so it's typically not considered a commercially viable tactic with Cordys. If you're just growing for yourself however, go for it.

@rafals5113

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks.

How much liquid culture did you use per container?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

2 - 3 ccs

@hopewithcte4571

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for the reply much appreciated. Keep up with the great videos

Could you do egg rice cooker tek?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

It would be tough I think, because the egg recipe turns into a solid congealed mass after cooking.

@rootsoflife9793

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms ahh I see what you mean ty

when you take your cakes out of the PC, is it supposed to look brown with a layer on top of the rice? lol

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

With the egg recipe yeah, it looks like refried beans.

@justinmcgee7063

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms it really does lol. Basically refried beans on top of Mexican rice 🤣🤣🤣 cool thanks man. Super excited for this!

Please tell me how many milliliters are in your plastic jars, is there a link to the store?

@RenegadeMushrooms

10 ай бұрын

Autoclavable and Breathable Cordyceps Cultivation Containers, pack of 6 a.co/d/am7GTiM

@user-yq8he1hu6m

10 ай бұрын

​@@RenegadeMushrooms❤

@user-yq8he1hu6m

10 ай бұрын

​@@RenegadeMushroomsThanks! Is rye also suitable? also broth 36 ml?

@RenegadeMushrooms

10 ай бұрын

@@user-yq8he1hu6m Never tried rye, and yes 36 ml. broth

@user-yq8he1hu6m

10 ай бұрын

​@@RenegadeMushrooms❤

is the cake edible??

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the supplements you use. I would definitely cook it first.

I saw a technique on the shroomery boards long ago from a guy named Roger Rabbit I think. He was talking about a technique of crossing strains by colonizing a smaller jar with a haploid mycelia. The colonization rate of haploids are slow so that why the smaller jar. Anyway after the jar is fully colonized you inject it with a multi spore syringe or a multispore plate. The mycelium mate and create a new strain to which you fruit and the spores from that new cross will be your new strain. The process the haploid mycelium goes through is called anastomosis I think. Do you have any thoughts on if this works or have you heard of it?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

Roger Rabbit probably on Shroomery, he da man. It's typically done now on agar petri plates. Ascospores are isolated to produce haploid mycelium which is paired with another haploid to form diploid mycelium which will be a viable sexual fruiting strain. Cordyceps senesces quickly, so they must be constantly bred to produce a stream of viable fruiting strains. If you're interested in the process, check out the "Cordyceps Growers" Facebook group.

did you made any attempts to clone those big guys?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

Cloning doesn't work well with Cordyceps, they senesce too quickly unfortunately. Productive cultures need to made continuously by pairing ascospores from fertile fruitbodies.

@louisw5858

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms ohhh yeah I see and hence in the manual I see a message 'use within 7 days' right?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

@@louisw5858 Yes, it will greatly increase your yields using your culture as fresh as possible with Cordys.

@louisw5858

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms true, anyways thanks for replying

Nice grow.. The container from root can they be used over and over again in the PC or is there a minimum usage going thru the PC? I'm going to try the 12qt tub method again and if I get contamination I will do the jar method. Thanks for spreading the knowledge.

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

They are good for multiple uses in the PC, but I'm not sure how many. They will eventually wear out. A straight-walled glass canning jar works well too with a 1/4 inch hole in the lid with polyfil or a stick-on filter disc.

@ranjanty

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks. I noticed on Ryan P Gates or Jeff's channel a quart jar growing Cordyceps sideways instead of right side up. Think I might try that if the tub grow fails. As always I appreciate your feedback.👍

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

@@ranjanty That's cool, haven't tried side fruiting them yet. For grow containers, I know Ryan prefers PP5 deli style containers with a couple holes in the lid covered with micropore tape. Lots of container options, but the plastic will eventually break down, where the glass won't.

How much LC for each jar?

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

I only did about 3 ccs per jar. Some people do quite a bit more, but that worked for me. Just make sure they have cooled to room temp before you inoculate.

@pacer8975

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms thank you so much!

I ain't never heard of mushrooms like that before. Are they edible mushrooms or are they for health or are they psychedelic?

@RenegadeMushrooms

2 жыл бұрын

They are used medicinally with a long history of medicinal use in Southeast Asia. They are highly valued, and typically are insect parasites.

Say I'm wondering how I determine when to harvest. They look ready as they're covered in the prickly fertile surface. But I can't believe how small many of them are. Not even as thick as a piece of spaghetti. And only about 3 cm tall. I have a few chunky ones but it's very inconsistent. :(( feeling disappointed 😞

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

It's usually 45 to 60 days from inoculation, and yeah, they should be covered with perithecia. The small size could be genetics. Where is your culture from, and how old is it?

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms 53 days old and got the strain from Appalachian gold and its on the egg broth recipe.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 Try a new strain, maybe hit up Ryan at Terrestrial Fungi. I've found that yield can vary significantly from syringe to syringe, so try mixing it up. Appalachian Gold is good, just try different strains. Sounds like you are close to getting the method down.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms just a couple more questions plz, should the cakes have a pleasant smell when healthy? I definitely detected a very pungent smell of sour rott fermentation on the bins I suspected of having contams. Also what do they look like if they go too long? Do they begin quickly showing signs of degeneration or problems? Also can I harvest just the big ones and let the small ones keep growing? Or does that not work? Thx again #MushroomFantasies

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms yes my previous strains from A.G. were nice and thick. I'm not too discouraged. Plus he's been very helpful and supportive when I've had questions. And he stands behind his products and gladly replaced one contaminated syringe with 2 in its place! I super appreciate Jeff Manganaro and will continue getting cultures from him

Can you remind me what prevents pinning for cordyceps? Isn't there something called overgrowth? I'm probably saying it wrong, but something to where they just keep laying down new layers of mycelium but not making pins? Thank you

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

It's usually temps too warm or a bad culture in my experience.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms wish I could show you a pic. I used the same liquid culture 10 days later with a different broth recipe that includes Silk Worm pupae and the one has pins a couple centimeters tall.

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 Nice, sounds like you are doing well 👍

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms so I just figured out what was causing my Cordy cake to stall off from pinning. I put it under some bright lights and had a very close look at it and can clearly detect to light green patches of trich starting deep in the middle. It's crazy cuz I was watching one of Gary's videos today dude with fresh on the farm fungi. That's who I got the culture from and he had the same thing happen in a video from March. His toe looked almost identical to mine but it had a tiny patch of green in it and it wasn't producing. So now I know

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 Bummer, it happens.

Shout out to Goya keep America free

I really wish I didn’t need a PC. That’s about the only thing I don’t own for mycology . I want to grow cordys soooo bad

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

Save up for a Presto 23 quart. Around $150 and they work great.

@Allyourbase1990

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms finally got one man !! Can’t wait to try !

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@Allyourbase1990 Excited for you 👍

@Allyourbase1990

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the help man ! You have no idea how awesome these videos are !

@Allyourbase1990

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms one last question . Did you have to add an injection port to those containers ? On root mushroom site it just shows a filter on the lid, but nowhere to inject

Kannst du’s als Rezept nicht verlinken

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

English? Having trouble translating that.

@akapilzlover187

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms oh sorry 😅 do you have the recipe in writing or can you link it? Greetings from Germany Bremen 😎

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

@@akapilzlover187 Greetings! Yes I will link some broth recipes. Just remember, no matter what broth recipe you use, you want to maintain a 1 to 1.2 rice to broth ratio. 1 part rice, 1.2 parts broth. That has worked best for me. cloudculturemushrooms.com/blogs/grow-cook-learn-mushroom-blog/how-to-grow-cordyceps-militaris-with-recipes

@akapilzlover187

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms best man thank you 😎💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

You should really rename the video to be like “Effective Egg broth for cordyceps” or something I think that may be fairly clickable The “no flowhood required” is really clickable though Fs

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

I'll consider that. Names are always tough. I try to make them clickable, but not misleading.

@adamripplinger6035

Жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeMushrooms right makes sense

A forty year old wears his hat backwards...why? Just buy a beanie maybe one with the little propeller.... it'll look just as good...🤣🤮

@RenegadeMushrooms

Жыл бұрын

How do you know I'm 40 😁, that's cold bro.