Ingenious use of the old coffee maker. Just took one apart for scrap and was wondering if I could make something out of the heater element,glad I found this. I always have lead and copper sulfate "root destroyer" around from plumbing work.I'm going to try this on the large maxi-slugs I use in my muzzle loader.Really enjoyed the info,thanks for posting.

Thanks, I've been looking all over for "jacketed" bullet hand-loads and I finally found your video without looking.

Great three part series. I enjoyed it. Seems like a bit of work to do but they look really decent after they're done. I cast and reload right now and it's always nice to learn something new.

I did a copper plating demonstration (like your setup) for my kid's junior high science class. I used an old wall wart power supply from an answering machine. It worked great. Mine was 9V DC output at 1 amp but 12 to 36VDC, 1A would be even better. You can get them almost free at garage sales and thrift stores.

If you ever worked in an electroplating shop for any amount of time the AMPS always find their own, the volts your running is what determines how thick and how fast it will plate, to many volts you'll burn it....the amps are a non issue, its far easier to control how any volts your running. Yes i am a former hard anodizeder and chrome plater from a gun shop... Along with mag phosphate, black oxide and and many other jobs plating weapons.

@ColtDeltaElite10mm Thats awesome! Thank you for the info on the chemical companys and temperatures.

@NoName-sy3di

3 жыл бұрын

Can you do steel or other metals hypothetically

Don't forget to keep the lead clean. If it's oxidised or oily it won't plate properly

Coffee plated bullets...this is awesome!!🤣 seriously though great job!

The bullet look professional ones. happy targets !

Excellent vid man!!

Oh yeah...the value to this as I see it is that you don't have to fool with bullet lube. I doubt this would work too well with rifle bullets but I hope I'm wrong about that. Somebody was noting that these aren't tough like jacketed bullets; they're time consuming and expensive to make, etc. If you get the RCBS bullet feeder it will gum-up using conventionally lubricated lead castings. These should eliminate that problem and the increased convenience thereafter should offset any problems.

@TheDeanza7 Its a copper sulfate solution. Zeb root killer is the crystalized form.

Look into epoxy coating bullets too. Someone tried tumble lubing lead bullets with some one-part epoxy from a car-parts store and it apparentlyy works fairly well.

i watched your video on oxy map torch and went into watching a bunch of metal melting videos and came back to another one of your videos haha

@dills2403 Thank you. Nope dont have to undersize 'em. Just plate then run through the luberesizer. I show this in part 3.

Cool video. Thanks. Never thought about plating my own bullets. Will like to try. Btw, the use of copper sulphate is because that's where you're getting your copper from for plating.

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2 жыл бұрын

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@digisol100 The DC out put is 1.5 amps. I think the motorcycle charger may be too strong and just turn the bullets black. I have plated in room temperature water and it works fine.

I removed the original reservoir from mine. I just have the base now with tubing leading to a 10 gallon tub. I used 3/8ths inch inside diameter, 1/2 inch outside diameter clear vinyl tubing with hose clamps at the heater end. That's as far as I got tonight. I'll build an appropriate sized shelf unit to combine the pieces. I want to try the slit sheet metal with holes type bullet holder but I bought some speaker wire just in case. Got a step drill and I'll lay out holes with graph paper.

yo lo he hecho de otra manera y no tienes que poner a cada punta un alambre de cobre, de todas formas muy bien hecho eso es un arte.

LOL thats too funny. The anger sharks are swimming around in my head lol

You are right once the solution is warm I shut the coffee pot off.

@armenlanesh818: You can get .223 molds (.224"), just order and wait. Cast lead bullets are routinely shot at 2500fps. They have to fit the barrel's groove diameter closely and need a gas check. Also the bullet lubricant has to be suitable (such as LARS HVR) & the bore surface cannot be rough. Your rifle bullets will not melt (especially in mid-air). The alloy yield strength must exceed the peak chamber pressure or your bullet base will deform and produce poor accuracy. Stay below 2000 fps.

the system consists mainly of an one way valve... it receives fluid by gravity, then when it heats up, the fluid is forced to rise the other way... your valve may be faulty

If you do this system just like he shows, you can use a piece of cast copper to weigh down the twin fill tubes that jet the water into the box. The pure cast copper would only provide an additional reservoir of copper for the plating process at worst, or just be successful at holding down the hot water tubes when they blow hot solution into the plating box.

@TheChero6 No problem. Its a copper sulfate solution.

@wallenba I think it would work. Ceramic is a great insulator.

Haha I missed it but went back and looked and you're right! Its still an excellent vid though!!

Spinesales, Thanks for taking your time to teach how to copper plate bullets. I am going down that road. I was just informed today by my son, that our indoor range in Newport News,Va. will not allow lead bullets in the range to be implemented soon. I started casting in the 80's to offset buying jacketed bullets but must now do so if my son and I are to enjoy the casting,reloading and shooting sport/hobby. Your setup is simple even love the coffee pot recirculating system. What kind of solution?

wow i wana copper plate bullets now!!!... this opens a whole new world for me!

I would use cheap aquarium heater, uses way less power! like 40 watt vs. 700. The heated water rising would circulate solution.

Thank you for this.

@spinesales

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

I hope you can answer this question, since the copper sulfate solution is used to supply the copper to plate the bullets, can you oversaturate the bath by throwing copper pieces (like copper jackets) to keep it from loosing its copper concentration over time?

Awesome . Won't the coffee pot shut down when it hits a certain temp?Thanks

I used a cheap coffee pot as solution heater. Place the thermal breaker Closer to the heating coil, to kept it from gurgling. It will open the circuit of the heating coil earlier….before boiling.

The lines are attached directly to the heating element tubes. They do not connect to the coffee pot's reservoir. Otherwise it will overflow. Any hardware store should have line connectors and hose clamps that will fit well and look a lot neater. Look in the irrigation system aisle. Aquarium supply stores are another good place to look.

I dont shoot plated but if I remember copper plated bullets generally are shot at the same velocity as lead because the jacket is so thin. I think newer ones with thicker coatings can be shot at jacketed velocities but I dont really remember. Its all about load development :P

@coltDeltaElite10mm Do you use any amplitude modulation, or is the voltage all that matters?

Not sure on the gravity question. The fluid should just loop through the heating element. Im using a 3amp power soruce from radio shack with a 1.5amp car dome light in line to reduce the current.

u could just use a fish tank heater, much simpler than your coffee machine setup. I may not be correct but I read somewere that copper plating plates smoother at 34 degrees celcius. nickel plating is done at around 70 degrees celcuis. your bath looks near boiling. also you can use an air pump in the bath to create bubbles around the pieces that are plating to again get smoother and faster plating results. aside from that nice job

this makes me want coffee

What about silver plating? You know ... vampires and so :)

@Lazarus0357

8 жыл бұрын

+MrVolodus No, it is a pain in the neck! You have to cast your silver bullets by melting a (silver) cross which has been blessed by a Bishop, taking care of removing the little blue stones. Then silver is harder than lead or brass, so if you kill too many vampires your barrel life goes down like the famous lead balloon. I use wood bullets, at short distances they are as effective as wood stakes. Regards

@pacman10182

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lazarus0357 silver plating, did you not read the question?

@edacheson8540

3 жыл бұрын

"Neither. You cut their frickin heads off."

@VeritasEtAequitas

3 жыл бұрын

They also don't do shellfish, pork, or anything with cloven hooves. Just smear a little bacon grease or pack the hollowpoints with lard.

@gregmcb5305

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t that werewolves vampires don’t like garlic?

Is the coil in the coffee pot creating a ground loop? might want to check the coils to make sure they are not being plated.

Just a little tip the Walmart in my town has on sale for 30 bucks a 1 amp battery charger dunno if it would work for what your doing but it's what I plan on using for a large tank

Have you inspected the bullets after you recover them? If the copper has worn off, you're still going to lead the barrel>

What is your solution made of?

I set everything up except the coffe pot which I don't understand since the zep fluid gets about 100 degrees by itself from the action of plating. I come up with red covered lumpy bullets that leaves the zep water brown, I used a 2 amp 12 volt battery charger. and can't get a nice copper coating. 1 week waisted and $100 gone on something that WILL not work. what am I doing wrong? please tell me???????

this is too cool, is the plating comparible to berrys?

I have an old Crock Pot with a ceramic cook pot inside. Do you think that would work to heat the solution? Or is there a problem with the coating they use on them?

I am having a ahrd time with this system. I cannot get the water thru the coffee pot. Do u fill the reservoir and when it is empty it is hot enough or is it cycling thru all the time

What is your DC voltage output, I have to assume a motor cycle battery charger would be sufficient to supply voltage. Have you tried doing this exact sale plating in room temp water rather than hot water ?

Thanks.

If you don't mind me asking what is the point of plating them? For looks? Or for fun. Cause either way I'm going to do it and do you have to resize them afterwards?

So yeah, they're not supposed to perform like jacketed bullets. They're just easier to store, handle and clean up after than conventionally lubricated lead bullets. Also, I noticed Spinesales' lubrisizer is a Lyman 450. He has to crank the lube feed for every bullet he sizes. That's no good (had one). I use a Star now, but that does'nt alleviate the problem of sticky, messy bullet lube. Even the commercial stuff flakes off and you cant use it in a feeder. This should be a cool experiment.

@LongRifle100 your welcome. Thanks for watching

can you give me the setup you have so i can get started plating my bullets? i see i need a plastic bowl,copper, etc, if you can give me a list. I do thank you.

Nice.

Playing creates heat initial self. Also keep the solution at level as it Evaps by adding distilled water, also make up solution with distilled water. Check out think and tinker website for plating help info.

Whatever cathode is in the solution will attract copper ions and become copper plated. You don't want that happening to your cathode, as it will rob the bullets of copper. The bullets going into the solution complete the circuit and become the cathode, attracting copper ions to their surface, becoming plated.

Huh! didn't know you could plate a cast round.... do you use metal wire or string or what to dhold the bullets?

Use a aquaria tank, aquarium heater and air percolator, you can buy copper sulfate solution at frays electronics, you can get sulfuric acid there as well, make a 10% solution of sulfuric acid, add 2-1 copper sulfate to sol. Use a tattoo gun dc power supply, make a cathode, top bar, and anode bar, use copper wire as your anode replenisher. Basically as you plate, you use up copper ions, u replenish this with the anode wire, it will get thinner as u use it up. Keep temp no more then 78 dgf,

there's a critical part to the coffie pot that you left out.. so i'll discuss it here.. in the inlet tube is a 1 way valve that allows water to flow into the heating element.. it is critical that this 1 way valve remains in place. you can feel it in the tube if you squeeze it, you'll feel a small valve in it.. this is what allows the perculation to occure. if that valve becomes damaged or non fuctional in any way, you'll notice the coffie pot will not circlulate.

Also do you keep the coffee maker always running? It seems like once mine reached a certain temp it burns off the oxygen and my outgoing line fills with air and just spurts out bubbles/steam.. Does anyone have any ideas of whats going on and how I can fix it?

Oooo boy I come cross your video and you are opening all bunch a can of worms now....( I haven't finish all parts yet First question can I shoot bullets from Glock ? Thanks for the video by the way ......

sizing them after plating doesn't ruin the plating?

what forum was this for?

is it just plating them or jacketing them?

my mom used to use ninevolts for plating junt

And this is a better/easier alternative to powder coating how???

What part were the bullets plated??? did I miss something???

Didn't mention anything on how you clean the bullets before entering the solution??

What is in the blue solution???????

Whats your electrolyte?

I see how he does it. It is above it and sets it up just like it was a reservoir. Let gravity do the work.

@stainless1911 I tried Castboolits. When Id post a vid on there I would get lots of criticism from guys that really didn't know what they were talking about. Not saying all the the guys on Castboolits are bad but there were a bunch of jerks over there. ATG isn't the biggest gun forum and it doesn't get much traffic but the guys on there are good and dont just leave crappy comments for the sake of trying to look like they know more than the person making the video. I do appreciate you watching!!!

You say the negative conductor cannot touch the solution. Yet, when the bullets go into the solution, they are the cathode. The question is, as long as the circuit is open (no current flowing), there is no electrical contact between the cathode and the anode: If the bullets go into the solution before the switch is closed, does it matter if the heavy conductor is in the solution during the process?

You should start off with making the solution. Is it vinegar and salt?

I have that coffee maker.

Not sure if your channel is still active. Is the heating just to keep it super-saturated with copper sulfate? I see no other reason to heat. Circulation isn't needed in the redox reaction.

Okay just built myself a rig similar to this.. Questions are how did you keep the gravity from overfilling the coffee pot? What type of voltage/amp are you using? Any hints on how to keep the lines from leaking? It looks like you have some type of red connectors in the coffee pot itself (what is that?)... I just used gorilla glue and it seems to be working great.. I am just trying not to make my system look like meth rig haha

Do you have to pass the bullets through a sizing die afterwards?

@colsoncustoms8994

8 жыл бұрын

I would, if the plating holds up.

hey spine, im sending you viewers from castboolits website

If you cast your own bullets do you have to use an undersized mold to compensate for copper plating?

@DoraTheMFDestroya

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. You also have to find the optimal plating thickness for your specific barrel.

Wont that Copper the inside of the machine?

What the liquid?

Interesting. Frankly, I am a little sceptical as to the worth of going to all that trouble. Rather, just make sure the barrel is de - leaded thoroughly each time after shooting. I must admit the result looks professional and easy on the eye. One little point on the lecture. NO OFFENCE. Try to cut out the word "basically" when talking.

@adrianlarkins7259

10 жыл бұрын

Point taken on high velocity ammo, though I find it difficult to imagine the lead actually becoming almost completely liquid.

@Trollygag

10 жыл бұрын

Some ranges won't let you shoot lead cast bullets because of lead dust. Copper washing is a way to get around it.

@adrianlarkins7259

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Odd how people see things in a different light At my club you can only shoot soft lead, They say copper jacket indicates too hard a bullet which could ricochet. Both arguments are typical health & safety issues gone mad and are utter bullshit in my opinion.

@Trollygag

10 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, which is why I don't shoot at those kinds of places.

@adrianlarkins7259

10 жыл бұрын

***** I realize that now but did not at time of my first comment. With a 24 inch rifle barrel, at what sort of velocity would the bullet start to become too soft?. My guess is around the speed of sound - 1250fps

I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that the fancy explosion intro had the typo in it. Copper *Pating*

693 / 5.000 Resultados de traducción Thank you very much for your information and sharing your knowledge. Please if you can answer me: I have a 22 wmr (Magnum) rifle its rimfire bullets are difficult to reload. I only want copper to silver the tip of the bullets loaded with fucking lead. If I immerse only the tip of the loaded bullet in the solution in a Copper Sulfate bath with 12 V 10 Amps in the Copper Sulfate solution, could these loaded bullets explode with this current in the solution? Or is there any other way to cover with copper to harden the bullet point? Thank you very much in advance! I suscribe ! Health to you and yours! Thank you a lot in advance!

I'd really like to see you shoot a load of these to see if they lead at 1800 - 2400 fps

@VeritasEtAequitas

3 жыл бұрын

At a minimum, you need to: (1) swage undersize to allow room for copper (2) use a harder copper alloy to quickly fouling the barrel (3) plate to the precise thickness for the barrel you're using

I sized them after plating

@spinesales

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasiahedgar4096 what's this

Shit , I want to rip that sticker off the solution container soooo bad. OCD starting. Ooosfabaaaa !

I need to copper plate old parts cast in lead to make them food safe. Good video I am not a gun person. So I do not understand the reason to copperplate bullets, Is so that the person you kill does not get Lead poisoning ?

@Karistonschannel

Жыл бұрын

its to prevent lead fouling in a barrel.

@x3wayassassin For better/ higher velocity

so i put this ridge together and started plating some of my gun parts. few questions am i supose to let them dry before handling? another problem is i'm getting alot of build up how am i suppose to leave the peice in for and when i went to wash it(pulling from bath to sink) everything just comes off like it's not sticking to the surface. so i resand the piece drop it back in the copper bath and same thing. any ideas?

@ghostshadow9046

7 жыл бұрын

need to make sure that part is totally CLEAN , you can not touch part with your fingers any oils/contaminants will make copper plating peal off, clean parts with denatured alcohol or acetone. make sure part you want to plate with copper is connected to the NEGATIVE power lead.

@jasonvue1985

7 жыл бұрын

thanks will try that.

spinesales doesn't your plastic bottle melt from the acetone?

@SpotterVideo

4 жыл бұрын

Do not use Polystyrene bottles. #6

could you use a crock pot

In line

2:35 that's what she said XD

Thanks for watching

for fuck same just buy a fish tank warmer

Remember that factor ball rifle(fmj) and pistol projectile jackets of all types will provide copper for plating. As you harvest material all can be reused in the mfg'ing process. Think bare bones and future restrictions now and how to get around them later. Everything is a commodity. Liberty and 1775 is the answer. MGK