I'm in my mid-60s and was all my life a total adolescent-level idealistic fool assuming we were inevitably headed towards a Star Trek Type Utopia. And now here we are facing with the definite collapse of civilization and the very real possibility of total extinction. Wild!

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

20% of our energy is electricity, add 5% for food/delivery, add 5% for medical/emergency services, round up 10% and we could have that star trek utopia if people were able to see we don't need money and not working other than the 40% needing staff on a circulating basis.

@karlwheatley1244

4 ай бұрын

@@antonyjh1234 Well, you can't have a Star Trek Utopia on a planet because it is Earth's ecosystems and biomass that makes our lives possible, so we need to get back to there being more nature and less man-made stuff.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

What are you thinking a star trek utopia is?You realise humans are nature right?@@karlwheatley1244

@EmeraldView

3 ай бұрын

That was me too. Fortunately the universe has had mercy on me and has shown me that humanity doesn't deserve to go on. Took my own most loved family members, to stab me not in the back but in full view, for the smallest and basest of their own desires, to finally drive the point home for me.

@ppetal1

3 ай бұрын

Nah. The Starship was clearly cardboard and gaffer tape and Uhuru was just a dream.

Regina your calm strong spirit keeps me on my difficult path of being a climate educator.

Thanks all, I appreciate you and your work! I’d like to see Nick join you more often! My opinion here is very unpopular, but the atmospheric CO2 and methane crisis is but a symptom of our larger and even more dire crisis of human overpopulation. I am a soil and plant ecologist. The cumulative damage we humans are doing to our planet is destroying the Earth’s ability to sustain life.

@heww3960

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. We constantly break records in grain harvest thanks to new technology, but yes that may not be sustainable long term, but we grow more and more indoors. I think growing indoors is the future. Either way, the soil will probably hold for our lifetime at least. It may be a problem for future generations.

Refreshing to hear Nick Breeze so candidly describe the failings of the COP meetings. The main stream media has failed to call out these coordinated exercises in greenwashing.

@lohphat

4 ай бұрын

It's almost as if corporate news is owned by billionaires and have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo for their personal lifestyles.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

MSM is by definition middle of the road, if you can't take oil out of your life, what do you want them to tell you?

@coweatsman

3 ай бұрын

The media hasn't failed. They have succeeded in obfuscating action on global warming and protecting BAU. Not entirely by denial but by selling hopium and so allowing people to go back to sleep and continue their zombie consuming.

What a delight that you have Nick Breeze on your show! Agree with all, Nick is an outstanding interviewer - and you all are heroes! Thank you thank you for your work ❤

@ClimateEmergencyForum

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Peter, brilliant as usual, with his spot-on observation about the COP Process.

In one of her recent podcasts Rachel Donald was talking about wanting to work on establishing an authentic alternative to COP. Thanks to all of you. I follow and greatly appreciate the work that you are doing.

We don't need a conference of "stakeholders." We need a dream team of the smartest experts in every necessary field, tasked with laying out a detailed plan of action based not on what is politically or financially "doable" but based on what exactly must happen in order to restore earth's climate to pre-industrial temperature levels.

@thomasd5

4 ай бұрын

I doubt that it is possible to go back to pre-industrial levels within the next 50.000 years since we will be unable to restore the Cryosphere to prior levels. But we can and should stop any emissions of climate gases from fossil sources and reduce the atmospheric concentration of CO2 to 260 ppm and 720 ppb of Methane, and we have to try to stop the second ice-age termination event by naturally released Methane which started in 2006. In around 50.000 years when the next ice age is supposed to happen, the climate gas will have to be reduced significantly under the usual concentration during ice ages (180 ppm CO2 and 350-500 ppb of Methane) to compensate for the missing albedo from melted ice and snow and the risen ocean levels. And we have to stop the rising energy disbalance of the Earth by stopping the release of additional energy by matter (power from oxidation / burning matter or nuclear fission or fusion) as well as the idea of picking up more solar energy by satellites and sending it to Earth by microwaves. Our problem with global warming is that we have too much energy, not that we need more. Solar radiation gives us a multiple of the energy we need on the planet and the only thing we have to do is to pick it up and use it. Nature delivers us an unbelievable amount of energy free of charge.

@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ

4 ай бұрын

That's why I think little is going to change, because those doing well out of all this simply don't want it, and they make the rules.

A quick and free way to support the publication of this much needed book is to contact your local library and ask them to order it in

Someone had tosay it !! The world conference on climate is now taken over by the oil and gas and coal intrest"s. The shame of government and corporate control against our survival is astounding. Its just the greed of quartly profits over our survival as a aculture. We are heading for a collapse of many societies unless the poeple rise and use their power. I thank Nick and peter for their timle contributions. Ilook forward to nicks book. Thank you all.

Chile and those wildfires are just another sign of exponential with a push, rate.

3-day COP tent in Congo next to cobalt mines, with fake plastic windows. *clink * Hear the clinking for the whole weekend. *clink * - “It’s Saturday 10:50am, there are 13 hundred of them out there going at it, *clink *, how are you making any impact *clink * on the planet?” - “go outside and tell them you care, *clink *, that you truly do! *clink *”

Peter Carter makes a great point about solutions. In fact, Nick Breeze delivered a very important interview on this back in 2018. Bravo Nick, because it clearly shows how Ocean Restoration is an eco-friendly nature-based solution fully capable of bringing the greenhouse effect back to safe proven levels very quickly, safely, and inexpensively. KZread doesn’t seem to allow links here in the comments, so please use a search engine to find it, use these keywords: Nick Breeze Ecologist Russ George May 2018

I want to read COPOUT. I think I probably know quite a bit of what is going to be in it, but still good to know the whole story. The politics has clearly failed, business has failed and is mainly greenwashing, and the "green" investment community i.e. the financial sector has also failed up till now. Maybe the investors will follow their financial interest at least and begin to cut investment in coal and in oil exploration. Here's hoping.

Cop was a reason for more oil contracts from the people who were supposed to lead it.

Love seeing you all together. Thank you!

@heidibrault1313

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your support.

@remicaron3191

4 ай бұрын

@@heidibrault1313I’d like to support something real. Not just talk about what others could do if we become fascist. Leading involve doing things not talking about things.

Great to see you, Nick, on this podcast, and get a bit more of an insider's view. I've got your book on preorder and looking forward to it! (Bruce in NC)

@ClimateEmergencyForum

4 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Robots can have the crappy jobs. We need a Universal Basic Income funded by rising tax on carbon fuels. That would help with multiple problems.

@charlesbrowne9590

4 ай бұрын

There is no doubt that a tax on fossil fuels is the single most important policy that could be implemented to combat climate change. This will send the price signals through the economy so that the remainder of fossil fuels we can budget are used efficiently. Ideally, the tax would be the present value of the damage expected from climate change and annuitized. The first readers of Adam Smith noted a flaw in markets. They called it “the tragedy of the commons”. Climate change and environmental degradation are gigantic tragedies of the commons. I recommend a steeply graduated income tax extending to negative rates for the poor. Soak the rich.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

There is not enough time to create clean energy robots to get a kickback that will minimise overall emissions.

I lost faith in these awhile ago . But I was SUPER hopeful of them at first.

The subtitles said , Nick new book will be _corking_ March 2024 😅. But then, my shattered screen crack ran right through that. Personally, I'd be more interested in the future of coffee, which like to grow on hill sides on higher elevations in tropical regions, which all get warmer thus endangering coffee production. Somehow Coffea don't like geographic higher latitudes environment, so that doesn't bode well for cafeïne junkies like yours truly. But wine growing has its issues too - and fine drinking, pro !

COP in Congo, next to a cobalt mine build a tent. Everyone shouts, shares stories and networks inside the tent, then goes outside to reality and can fly away in private planes back to where it is.. nicer.

Thank you.

@heidibrault1313

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your support.

@ClimateEmergencyForum

4 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

But the common😊😊😊 people need to be represented

Cop Out is exactly right.

Why don’t you well off people tell us how we can transition off of oil for all us people who haven’t profited from the oil boom. Explain to me how we can raise prices to use less oil but it only reduces oils consumption for people who already aren’t the problem while the rest of us keep burning oil like it’s out of style. Our problem is the economic system we have and without talking about changing our economic system we are just making money talking about climate change. We have started more wars these last few years which makes our problem so much greater, yet we talk about freedom on one side while taking away freedom on the other. Wake up and work for change in our economic system and watch how oil use reduces in spades.

@reuireuiop0

4 ай бұрын

Carbon Tax relative to the amount fossil used. Use the revenue in part to alleviate costs for regular folks : reduce income tax, reduce VAT, subsidies for isolation of houses, stuff like that. Use the rest to help essential activities to transition, like agriculture, mining, sea transport, to keep price rises to a minimum. We're in this together, we should _not_ let the rich or big oil big tech big finance, run off with the goodies. Climate Justice money to global south _only_ to specified projects, not warte money on corrupt leaders and business. If transition results in letting people pay enormous prices while the elite get richer, it won't stand a chance of success. We got the fight this like we fought the Nazi's and the commies, all hands are needed.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

Explain to me how you have transitioned of oil. Explain to me why you think prices won't increase for everything else and wages accordingly? There's 636 kilowatts in a tank of diesel, 9000 kilowatts in a cord of wood, are you guilty of using these? 3 months of my electrical energy in one tank, or 3 years of my electrical energy in some people 3 months supply of wood. There are plenty of poor people using wood and putting huge amounts of energy into the system. If you want a new system, degrowth is the only option imo. 20% of our energy is electricity, add 5% for food/delivery, add 5% for medical/emergency services, round up 10% and we could have that star trek utopia if people were able to see we don't need money and not working other than the 40% needing staff on a circulating basis. So we could tell people to not worry about working, supply shelter, food and medical care for free, would you be happy with that?

@ppetal1

3 ай бұрын

Easy. You need to consume less. You know that.

@antonyjh1234

3 ай бұрын

Less than what? This is like a really efficient ice car, it just means more people can drive for the price of one. Have you consumed less than ten years ago and what overall effect did it have to total consumption?@@ppetal1

Our production is the problem so worrying about over production to make more money won’t fix nothing. Exports are over if we want to survive with everyone but we all know that’s not what any climate change people are thinking. Climate change people are comfortable people who want others to reduce their use so they can stay comfortable but the rest of the world can starve as they are pretty close to doing now. Why don’t we stop the oil trade? Wouldn’t that reduce our consumption? Of course it would but it would involve the wealthy causer of climate change to actually take responsibility like the poor have done since the Industrial Revolution.

Beyond hope now. Stop pretending otherwise.

@raquela8438

4 ай бұрын

some of us dont want to die nihilistic and lazy. if we're gonna die anyway, why not try to make things better?

@terencefield3204

4 ай бұрын

I quite understand how you feel, and I used to believe that, but in the face of unavoidable catastrophe which will engulf the civilizations of the world, I no longer believe that it is possible to improve anything at all, but it is possible in the simplest of terms to behave kindly to your fellow human beings@@raquela8438

Scientists should have self respect and avoid surrendering themselves as poodles to world leaders. We need holistic perception of nature that in principle needs common sense and not complex mathematical modelling. Prevention is better than cure.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

You have scientists yelling, screaming at leaders, what do you want them to do and how do you see them being poodles? Aren't the people who use petrol and diesel for fun, the real poodles? What does holistic perception of nature mean in this case?

@brianwheeldon4643

4 ай бұрын

An interesting sentiment I agree with. As their jobs depend on surrendering themselves, how would you think the way forward could operate? Thanks

Resistance is futile. Long live the resistance!

COPOUT it's in the name. Cop out

U am amazed, dissapointed, sad on how you don't discuss the book, but elaborate on wine and coffee 😢

Wine is at risk??? Oh, the humanity!!! Leave it up to free markets??? Bwahahaha!!!

A lot more progress would’ve been made over the last decade if the impact on wine were a much larger part of the narrative instead of numbers and ice sheets and polar bears in the arctic. I can’t believe growers were the first to see tangible evidence but I’m only just hearing about it. I mean the amount of wine that was sold during the lockdown alone would’ve made it tangible for people. Climate scientists and journalists need to hire actual creative communicators. Because while I’m going to buy his book out of support, a book on wine would’ve been a lot more interesting too. We already know COP is trash. We need new angles.

@jessieadore

4 ай бұрын

I’m actually incredibly upset this wine thing was just a casual aside 😭. Like, wtf man.

@reuireuiop0

4 ай бұрын

You should check his channel, wines a hobby of Nick's, but in climate, he's one of the best. Check his interview with Tzeporah Berman, Joe Romm, Jason Box, Kevin Anderson, Euan Nisbet on tropical methane...

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

So, a subjective thing to you makes it an objective fact to others? How can you be incredibly upset about wine being an aside thing? People are losing their homes, dying etc and you think wine would be the thing that changes peoples ways?

@EmeraldView

3 ай бұрын

The original narrative was that ice sheets will melt and sea levels will rise one to three meters by the year 2100 ! Which of course sent most people around the world scrambling to figure out what to do! 🙄 Friggin idiots. When they should have been talking about the very real possibility of collapsing the ecosystem and food chain that human beings rely on to exist on this planet.

Merci beaucoup

Yeah I was swept up for 2020 & 2021 and showed that on my channel, but now I see it for what is is. Total BS like Nick said.

@reuireuiop0

4 ай бұрын

I was involved in activism around an early COP in the Hague, NL. As Dutch, we of course built a symbol dike around the building. Back then, it was a far more political affair with fewer industrie lobby attending. It was the afterglow of the first wave of climate awareness, the resulting Kyoto protocol, that cop would build forth on that, but alas, denial lobbies were going Full throttle, and Gore put it back on mainstream 10 years later. After that we got Paris, but only the last couple years now extreme weather hits outside the Arctic (it been causing extreme melt from the nineties on up North..) only now, were are seeing the slightest bits of serious action. Cops have become million dollar Bizz, you won't see an environment minister as the head, as back in the Hague...

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@juliebarks3195

4 ай бұрын

👍👍🙏

Borders may be a casualty of climate change. That is if Humans can get over petty cultural quarrels and actually focus on common cause. Transcending our communication disconnects and standardizing best environmental practice as a whole earth system requires. Human 2.0 is the least we can aim for. ShakeUp XR

Corporations control everything. The only way to win against them is to educate yourself so you can see though their lies and behave accordingly.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

What is behave accordingly?

Save Our Planet Now!

We doomers are powerless, just as the Pollyannas are. Enjoy the journey down.

The book sounds interesting. But when it comes to actual solutions, I find it hard to imagine someone so involved in the wine industry would have any anti-capitalist inclinations.

@reuireuiop0

4 ай бұрын

Check his channel - plenty of interviews digging deep. Euan Nisbet on methane, really was an eyeopener - different approach on methane than the Arctic stof. His talks with Kevin Anderson are far from capitalism sympathies

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

Wine was around before capitalism and I didn't realise it was only connected to one "ism"

@christill

4 ай бұрын

Maybe. I think a lot of people talk about the solutions that aren’t profit making but very advantageous for the climate. But they suggest that billionaires could spend the relative small change to do it, rather than talk about taxing the rich to do it.

@christill

4 ай бұрын

@@antonyjh1234 Yeah but when you think about wines and champagne, who comes to mind? To me it’s the most establishment, neoliberal capitalist thing. In this world today. It’s not about what happened in the past. It comes across today as a very elitist industry. And therefore I wouldn’t trust anyone with a strong connection to it, unless a very good reason for me to believe them.

Is Nick Breese a stage name?

@EmeraldView

3 ай бұрын

No his stage name is Cool Breese. 😅

Enough already! Stop the COPs

California is again Biblical. Good luck LA......

The wine industry! Really? It is a bad place to begin a discussion about climate. Maybe you should start with water.

@russmarkham2197

4 ай бұрын

the wine is for when we realize that we have blown past 2 C also.

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

If you think this is the start of the discussion about climate then where have you been?

@jsgsmile

Ай бұрын

Yes, that sounds a bit strange, but you have to understand that he is a fairly well-known wine journalist and is therefore interested in the wine aspect.

Or maybe some genius will come up with the idea that casual talk, like, oh I went down to Portugal, to talk to whoever, means carbon emissions from travel. Airtravel likely. Like meet though zoom, like this presentation. Nope, no genius on that, unless Kevin Anderson might bring up the idea. And something like wine???? is some kind of essential topic on a burning up planet??

What God gives with one hand He takes away with the other.

@LivingNow678

4 ай бұрын

​@@SRCX.ClimateResearch It exists when GOD = INFINITE

@antonyjh1234

4 ай бұрын

One of the five mass extinctions meant 96% of all species were exterminated, what "god" takes away and then gives will be nothing that will believe in god.

No one wants to hear what Soylent Green is.

@EmeraldView

3 ай бұрын

It's vegan right?

All that self important flying around...what a waste