To clarify something I mention in the video: I firmly believe that CCS is not the solution to reducing emissions from burning fossil fuels. We just need to stop burning them instead. However, as I have made videos about previously, I do think that CCS has a role to play in decarbonisation, specifically in sectors like cement that have unavoidable (at least for now) carbon emissions. But in this video I'm specifically talking about CCS in the context of burning fossil fuels for energy. I can highly recommend Climate Adam's recent video on this subject.

@ericdanielski4802

5 ай бұрын

Until the use of fossil fuels is stopped, CO2 emissions must be reduced as a matter of urgency. Every technology is now needed for this, including CCS.

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

​@@ericdanielski4802you are actively ignoring the fact that currently CCS is sadly used as an excuse to not reduce carbon emissions

@natevanderw

5 ай бұрын

@@ericdanielski4802 CCS is not and will probably never be cheap enough (there is no profit incentive) to employ on a grand scale. It won't happen.

@rahuldev2380

5 ай бұрын

Like trying to get healthy by doing more cardio when you are eating junk food all the time

@kenjohnson6101

5 ай бұрын

Search Google for the following articles: "This Carbon Negative Cement Reduces Emissions and Costs Less Than Conventional" "Cement warms the planet. This green version just got a key nod of approval."

So apparently, the next COP will be in Azerbaijan, another huge petrostate. I was wondering... How the process of selecting a host country for the next COP happens and how does it seems to be so easily taken over by the fossil cartels ? Because the so called geopolitical realism that plagues international diplomacy isn't really a valid reason in my opinion.

@Argosh

5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the answer is Money.

@someguy2135

5 ай бұрын

And then Brazil, which is the top exporter of beef and accounts for 50% of the soy market. Seventy seven percent of soy is used for farm animal feed. How did they do it? By burning a huge amount of their rain forest. Beef has, by far, the highest negative impact on the climate. Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation.

@dr.zoidberg8666

5 ай бұрын

"Geopolitical realism" will always be the position of capitalists & statesmen -- the people who rule the world will never be the ones to advocate revolutionary change.

@Lambda_Ovine

5 ай бұрын

I'm sure the answer is as sickeningly uncomplicated as to be that the host position is up for sale, and the petrostates just can afford it, just like everything else in this world, apparently

@TheDanEdwards

5 ай бұрын

​@@Argosh That answer is always money.

I appreciate and I am deeply saddened by the fact that this year Simon has finally progressively lost his patience with fossil fuel companies and societies "actions" to control them

5 ай бұрын

Fucking finally right?

In regards to your last point in the video, my view is that it is never too late to save at least a tiny bit, and every tiny bit is worth saving. And I recon we can save more than just one tiny bit, we can save a bunch of tiny bits. And that adds up to a lot. The time to give up is never, no matter what. Because every bit than can be saved is worth saving.

@achenarmyst2156

5 ай бұрын

100%

@AryaPDipa

5 ай бұрын

Definitely! Sure, change the expectation to the more "realistic one", but it doesn't mean we can slow down just because the bar was lowered. We all still have to keep pushing as if we're trying to get that 1.5 degree goal.

@jimthain8777

5 ай бұрын

I agree, and that means even if we exceed 2 degrees, or 3 degrees, or more. There is no point at which we should give up, ever!

@miguel5785

5 ай бұрын

Also do not underestimate the power of lifestyle change. We don't need so much bottled water, sodas, coffee, meat, car travel... We can save a lot of fresh water, materials and energy every day. That will also help bring about the collective action we are in dire need of, through market signals and through example of a different more sober and sensible way.

@thecommentator9181

5 ай бұрын

Preach.

These guys saw the plastic packaged food companies blame the consumer and thought “hey, let’s do that!”

@NicitoStaAna

5 ай бұрын

These are the product the consumers buy. Imagine the cost of living increase if we stop oil You'd also be stopping transportation, huge revamps of logistics, less competition on (all) markets. Leading to higher prices for all

@miguel5785

5 ай бұрын

@@NicitoStaAna invest in public transport and freight trains, and put a price on carbon and you'll see a decrease in consumption of our most carbon-intensive products. The reason why oil sycophants don't want to try and instead insist it is impossible is obvious.

@miguel5785

5 ай бұрын

@@NicitoStaAna higher prices especially for the most carbon-intensive products is exactly what we need

@NicitoStaAna

5 ай бұрын

@@miguel5785 Tell that to people of Egypt/Philippines/Indonesia. Heck. France sparked the yellow vest movement cuz of higher prices. And France is the Biggest green super rich in Europe (due to nuclear power plants) Where's their green technology now if people are forced to sacrifice 20% of their paycheck? How many years has it since the yellow vest movement? Did the conditions/air pollution improve? All talk no action. Show me one policy that people allowed to keep their governments after forcing poverty/hunger into the populus. That only applies to fascist nations. Said policy won't last long by being unrealistic

@miguel5785

5 ай бұрын

@@NicitoStaAna I tell that mainly to rich people. Also our societies are very inefficient. We don't need so many cars and appliances. We can do without a lot of luxuries, consume less, share more. We don't need bottled water or sodas with every meal, we can reduce meat consumption, there are lots of materials and energy we could be saving.

It seems like a great agreement... if it had happened in the 80s

I mean, we're pretty fucked. And regarding "better than expected": If they introduce that rating at the tour de france I'm gonna win next year...

@jessicaandtrains7768

5 ай бұрын

Relax it's all in your head. Don't believe the lies.

@L.CROSS0

5 ай бұрын

@@jessicaandtrains7768hope your little girl grows up to be smarter than you are, because people like you pretty much fucked up any future she could have.

Something else to mention about CCS - the vast majority of CCS schemes use amine solvents, which are derived from oil. Most of the original equipment manufacturers for CCS technologies are also oil and gas companies (notably Shell and Aker). So it's a win-win for O&G companies to use CCS - they can sell even more fossil fuels with CCS than before! Also, CCS plants release about 3 times as much CO2 in a lifecyle as they will capture due to massive use of concrete and steel in manufacture, and they can only capture 95% of CO2 in the first place.

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

Shut up, renewables are worse we need more oil. (Sarcasm but sadly people think this) They do the argument that renewable energies require resources that need to be extracted etc. But for some reason fossil fuels seem to always get a free pass on that. Thanks for the insight i genuinely thought ccs had at the very least gotten to a point were it is more efficient than planting a tree at the entrance of a power plant

@natevanderw

5 ай бұрын

Where can I learn more about these facts? About the plants releasing 3x more.

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

​@@natevanderwthere's probably some study out there that calculates how much the current early stage CCS technology absorbs in relation to its construction costs, still that ignores that we aren't meant to use the current undeveloped CCS technology, surely it will play a role in the future but since right now it's being used to not cut emissions because CCS will come it solve it all it is openly disingenuous.

@enternalinferno

5 ай бұрын

That was really informative, thank you

@calibrepowa1762

5 ай бұрын

@@natevanderw The original study is here: s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23929970/project-tundra-draft-environmental-assessment.pdf it's a lifecycle analysis of a coal-fired plant with CCS called project Tundra. However I should point out to give a balanced argument: - Project Tundra is a COAL plant, which means the upstream emissions for a GAS plant would be ~45% of the values stated (hence, we're getting into net negative CO2 emissions already). This is because gas plants produce approx 45% of the CO2 per unit electricity as a coal plant. - Only 1.36 out of 3.26 CO2e is CO2, the rest is SF6. A quick read of wikipedia shows that SF6 is mainly produced through fugitive emissions from circuit breakers, switchgears and other electrical components... in other words, would this really be reduced using another energy generation technology? it's not really a CCS-specific demon... For context - I am a mechanical engineer working in Energy Transition for a major consultancy in the UK. Probably about half my work is concept and early design work for CCS projects. I borrowed most of this text from a linkedin post i wrote earlier ;)

Power structures are sticky things that don't give up easy. It has historically taken wars & catastrophes to dislodge them. I hope climate change will be different but don't expect it to be.

@magesalmanac6424

5 ай бұрын

Stark but true. Things will get better one day, but they will probably get much worse before it gets better.

@RAFMnBgaming

5 ай бұрын

I mean... I suppose there is a catastrophe on its way. so... yeah. yay

@memyselfandi8544

5 ай бұрын

You have zero power. Everything you know, was programmed into you. Climate change, like Covid, is just programming. They could take away your oil anytime they like. It’s about control. Not the climate.

@05Matz

3 ай бұрын

Seems all we have left is to ensure the ongoing catastrophe falls as much as possible directly on those responsible (and able to choose another path), and as little as possible on the rest of us, even though in any case it will fall mostly upon those with the least power to change it. @@RAFMnBgaming

the metaphor at the beginning was pretty good

I have an uncle who is 95 years old, a retired senior executive for Mobil oil. I asked him about the state of climate change and opinion, he said nothing other than that I should join a Christian mens bible study group. His job in the late 1970’s was in environmental mitigation.

@pavel9652

5 ай бұрын

Unique mixture of decades of religious indoctrination and more recent dementia. Interesting comment, though. Thanks for sharing!

Ok I was happy, now I'm depressed again, you're right of course. Scientists should go to politics, become secretaries of state, ministers, so that change could actually happen, attack the problem from within.. because in the fight between science and politics, guess who keeps losing..

@freeheeler09

5 ай бұрын

As a retired soil and plant scientist, scientists are generally too honest to be politicians.

@bosstowndynamics5488

5 ай бұрын

They've tried lobbying and people who are serious about climate action are frequently running for office in many nations, but oil and gas just uses bigger wallet democracy to outpace them with political campaigns (even in countries with campaign finance restrictions there's a big financial interest in ongoing extraction and consumption for owners of corporate media who don't like the idea of oil and gas dependent economies shrinking slightly and costing them a tiny bit of their own money)

@Khronogi

5 ай бұрын

@@freeheeler09 Then we should stop electing politicians and start electing civil servants. The word "politician" lets a person be a corrupt bastard and get away with it, because of course *all politicians do it* so we should stop electing them.

At the end, Simon ended with “will it be too late in two years”. Depends who or what you are referring to. It may already be too late to save the coral reefs. Might be able to save the Amazon rainforests, but the Artic sea ice is in very bad shape. If the permafrost melts and belches out methane, we don’t have a chance. -- Here in lies the problem. Almost everyone only thinks about the survival of our way of life. BFD. If we keep our cell phones working, but nature collapses, what is the point? Do we really want to live in the hell-scape that we are creating?

@Praisethesunson

5 ай бұрын

I don't live in your hellscape, and I will gladly make your hellscape hotter if it puts a few more pennies in my pocket. -Charles Koch

I volu teered at an ipcc event some years ago and it was really interesting to observe how all the oil nations would go to the representatives of saudi arabia whenever there was something of importance in the text. They all teamed up with the Saudis leading to reduce any ambitions as much as possible, before not accepting the final text anyways.

In a Capitalist world, there will be no change towards the climate, as long as it is profitable to them, they will keep on doing it.

The fact that it’s going forward means it’s not going backwards. That we’re not completely captured. So I find it still means there is hope… that we can do better.

House on fire you say? *Doggie slurps coffee* _This is fine.._

I was able to maintain some optimism until about 20 years ago, but it became obvious that no matter how bad it gets, the fossil fuel companies and the political enablers will prevent any meaningful action.

@danielkjm

5 ай бұрын

That os the capitalism way.

@memyselfandi8544

5 ай бұрын

You didn’t die from COVID, but they swore to you that you would.

@scifino1

5 ай бұрын

@@memyselfandi8544 I didn't, but my dad did. Thanks for the condolences.

@memyselfandi8544

5 ай бұрын

@@scifino1 Did they put him on remdesivir? Killed more than Covid. Queen got horse paste.

@xway2

5 ай бұрын

@@memyselfandi8544 Who are "they" exactly? Scientists, or who are you talking about?

This is my own personal opinion. The fossil war is entering the end phase. The companies more than most people realize the game is up. The focus for them now, is squeezing that last penny out of the last drop they can bring up and sell as fast as possible. OPEC is somewhat resistant to this strategy, as they know they will be last to sell, and they want top dollar; so they are cutting production. So expect oil prices to be very fluid over the next 7 years, as these two strategies compete with each other.

@Sythemn

5 ай бұрын

100%, they're doing everything they can to get every dime they can out of their established business and cronyism before it just isn't economical viable anymore. They couldn't give 2 craps about how much all the poor, not to mention billions of other lifeforms, are going to suffer as a result of dragging this out another year.

this video was equal parts hilarious and enlightening. Thank you for your consistently top-tier videos

So basically, COP28's decision is like when the entire class bombs on a test so the teacher decides to curve it so the lowest grade is a B.

2023 is truly part of an age without hope. Nothing ever seems to go right these days. Being a person who dreams of a better world is absolute torture in 2023.

@iantaakalla8180

5 ай бұрын

Except videogames, but that is less “2023 is good” and more “the COVID pandemic has countered temporarily some bad working practices in videogames.”

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

As sad as it is, it's true, I used to be one of the "fight for every degree" guys but this year I have fallen into complete cynicism and acceptance that the people who have the power will never do anything beyond putting money and people between them and a problem, It's hard to not give up hope in that context

@yvesgingras1475

5 ай бұрын

@@Solstice261 Not just poeple with power, regular citizen are doing jack shit, everybody still eat massif amount of meat, use theirs giant stroller everyday, still buy shit town of single use shit. etc

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

@@yvesgingras1475 while I partially agree with that statement, a lot of that consumption comes from us still working in a system that demands constant growth and those same companies promoting more consumption, regular people don't really have the blame because in mass they essentially lack free will, and as individuals they lack power, sure individual responsibility is great and all, and we should all try to do as much as we can but the main problem to tackle here is definitely fossil fuel companies

@dmitryr9613

5 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm too young still, but it feels like a better world has never been more within reach .

There was an agreement made at COP to increase the amount of nuclear energy production. This may turn out to be important in the future even if it won’t have any big short term effect.

@joaquimbarbosa896

5 ай бұрын

It will be crucial for a low carbon future

I guess all we can do is enjoy the time we have left on this hellscape. Multinational corporations and petrostates are still trading our ONLY BIOSPHERE for coins. 🙃

@danielkjm

5 ай бұрын

And they are gonna sell us Water and Clean Air.

@pavel9652

5 ай бұрын

What choices do you make in store? Do you pick more expensive and sustainable products, in safer packaging? I bet your don't. You as a consumer have a ton of choice.

Dubai isn’t a country strange to “Climate manipulation”. They have a law that states that when temperatures reach over 50 degrees Celsius, businesses are required by law to close down. Of course, government intervenes “meteorologically” and will always display temperatures of below 50

Unreal video thank you! It is so good to hear this as the media never goes into detail with the climate crisis and it is great to hear from the experts themselves

That opening analogy was INSANE

@pavel9652

5 ай бұрын

It is incorrect in my opinion. The house is shared. Producers are passing fuel to other tenants, and are taking about garden house that is somewhere in the shed. Tenants are doing work and causing fire by accident. Producers technically don't block anything, as the other governments could take more serious action, if they really wanted, but if is politically risky as it is expensive to the economy.

COP ? I think the E fell off the end.

Thank you very much for your videos again!

Thanks for making this!

“I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation. I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C.” Sultan Al Jaber, President of COP28 Seems more and more likely, scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment may come to fruition (or at least the higher end of the spectrum). I say enjoy what you can, while you still can; pity the generations to come.

@General12th

3 ай бұрын

I don't see how failing to keep warming to 1.5 degrees means we're doomed to reach 4.5.

Thanks Simon! Excellent video

can't wait for next weeks video

Not its not a victory, is a big fat FAIL. WE NEED ACTION NOW!

We now have an oil executive as president of a climate summit. We are f*ucked.

Sufficient or insufficient: Everyone has to be on board to reach a global solution. You just cannot leave out the countries that mainly live of fossil fuel exports. This is a painful truth.

the Conservatives just cancelled one of the most important parts of HS2 and started construction on the Most Expensive Road Ever built in the UK So much for climate friendly infrastructure.

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

To be fair for the last couple of months Tories seem to have decided destroying the environment is their thing, and seeing their approval ratings it's going about as well as you'd expect, I will never understand why the UK doesn't have a way to make preemptive elections when the population decides a government is actively destroying the country

@hikarikaguraenjoyer9918

5 ай бұрын

They are also selling off the land to make sure HS2 and never be revived by a future government, what a shit show

@tweda4

5 ай бұрын

HS2 wasn't economic or climate friendly infrastructure. It was pointless boondoggle.

Excellent summary and analysis!

Simon: I was thinking of you the other day, oddly enough, and wondering what advice I'd give you if you were me (back when I was your age, which was decades ago.) From my now older eyes, a well educated, young, enthusiastic person can be as earnest as possible... *and yet still make poor decisions.* Given the reality of anthropogenic climate change, what plans do you have for your family? _Given the UK is an island nation, and imports half of their food_ , have you considered how your son is going to have to live when he is your age? Perhaps (and I believe it so or I would not mention it) you and your family will do better in decades to come if you were to relocate to a continental location? Have you considered looking for a position in Canada/US/Australia?

@bosstowndynamics5488

5 ай бұрын

Simon's probably in a financial position where he can keep options like this in his back pocket without having to immediately act on them

Do you have a video on CCS?

Stop fossils by 2030! And since a lot of coutries/companies/projects are gonna fail at it, tax the shit out of their CO2 emissions!

I knew it was a bogus meeting the second I heard it was in the UAE.

Ah yes, greenwashing strikes again... Excellent video Simon!

Watching this video for the second time - so helpful for understanding what happened and very funny.

"fire truck" RIP fire engines

@SimonClark

5 ай бұрын

Yeah that was a concession to the American audience :p

@abody499

5 ай бұрын

​@@SimonClark i noticed. it's a sign of everything that's wrong in the world.

@camelopardalis84

5 ай бұрын

@@SimonClark Please don't do that. :) I so greatly appreciate being able to listen to European English. (Not to be confused with EU English, the English spoken in international places in cities like Brussels.)

Some will say it's actually the aurora borealis inside your house.

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

5 ай бұрын

The bright light and heat could be from anything! There's absolutely no science saying it was caused by the Molotov cocktail I threw at your house!

Thanks!

essence of capitalism really

Thanks for all your videos! 👏👏

Thank you.

Capture electricity where it is used with rooftop solar pv and a big battery in V2G EVs. Selfplug-in EVs is the killer feature. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day.

We need urgent action, but I can only see that happening from the consumer end in a capitalist world. Producer countries will only stop producing if consumer countries stop consuming. Simple as that.

Well done, Simon. We are doomed! 😢

@nsbd90now

5 ай бұрын

Yup. I've come to some degree of acceptance, which is freeing, but I just feel so sad, afraid and disappointed.

@DNA350ppm

5 ай бұрын

Sorry my friend, I feel for you! Those who preach doom have gone over to the climate science deniers' camp. Come back to those who are on the right side, for the sake humanity. Stop trying to influence those who profit from CO2-emissions, that just give you a burn out. (Pun intended!) Join the resistance movement under the radar of the mainstream - live cheaper, according to your ideals and conscience, in touch with like-minded people, and you'll get your energy back (pun intended)! But rest first! The resistance movement can't be stopped.

@DNA350ppm

5 ай бұрын

@@nsbd90now I know the feeling, but the acceptance you/we feel could and should be limited to that one can't talk sense to those who profit from selling fossil and other fuels. What about all of us who don't? We count, too. That's what the fossil powers can't accept. But we are still here and free to make other choices. Take a deep rest and then come back and resist brainwashing - it is difficult in some social circles, but for us it is possible. If you are mostly tired of the confrontations, work for the right goals more incognito, more practically - you are not alone.

@mharley3791

5 ай бұрын

Humans will be fine

@Jc-ms5vv

5 ай бұрын

@@mharley3791we won’t survive on a dead planet

Simon, do you get enough hugs in this line of work?

@SimonClark

5 ай бұрын

Not nearly enough, though baby is helping up those numbers

@camelopardalis84

5 ай бұрын

While watching this video, I had one of my saviour fantasies. Which oddly enough involved me getting a hug from Simon. Edit to add: This time, I mean. Normally, no hugs are involved.

@elariz8752

5 ай бұрын

@@SimonClark I've loved your channel for a long time and when I showed you to my highschool biology teacher (back when I was in highschool) he started presenting your videos in class

You can't un-mix the Kool-Aid.

Excellent video! I share your sentiments. But I am really finding the lack of engagement of these apparently elite people, with this very serious situation, more than a bit surreal. I wonder if these 'blockers' will one day be scorned or better yet prosecuted for perpetuating the ongoing damage that they are responsible for. Thank you for addressing this!

I have a question, they didn't say to phase down or out or transition away from UNABATED fossil fuel, they only used the terms unabated for coal and they didn't mention it when they spoke about fossil fuel, so, through my opinion, I don't think that it was a good COP for fossil fuel company

0:06 - Jokes on You, I don't have a house 😅

Loved your analogy. It's utter madness how this plays out year on year, and it's now 200 years since Eunice Foote got the ball rolling. 200 YEARS! I'm not holding much hope for the next decade. The world is heading to a cliff and car is just having the brake only lightly applied.

Humanity with climate change is like me knowing that I have to be at work at nine o'clock and snoozing eternally. Thinking to myself : "well 5 seconds to dress up, forget about breakfast, 17 seconds to reach the car, 6 more seconds to start, about 12 mn for the 30 km to my work. Let's see it's 08 : 42 + 12mn 29 seconds = LET'S SNOOZE SOME MORE !!!

While I strongly agree with most of what you say, I disagree with what you say about CCS. There is a role for CCS and the IPCC and UNEP have both stated that there is a role for CCS and outlined technology development pathways. The issue is making it commercial and scaling it up. However, we need more meaningful scaling up of all clean technologies, combined with better supply chain emission tracking, so that we fully map emissions and can credibly reduce or avoid emissions. This is important for fossil fuel emissions where most of the emissions are scope 3.

@simonclark can you do a video about CCS and the efficiency of such solutions? I am a civil engineer, and for people that isnt experts in the field, it's easy to jump to the conclusion that CCS is good

@bobrandom5545

5 ай бұрын

CCS costs energy. Might not be a great idea to increase energy demand in a world where most energy comes from fossil, hehe. I looked it up and CCS costs around 300 kWh per tonne of CO2. One tonne of oil produces ~12 MWh and releases ~4 tonnes of CO2. So, for every tonne of CO2, we get ~3MWh of energy. Doesn't seem like a great idea to me when ~10% of all energy from fossil would have to be used to capture and process the CO2. EDIT now I think of it, the ~12MWh is all the energy released from burning one tonne of crude oil. So, we need to factor in that oil plants have an efficiency of ~40%, so it gets even more ridiculous.

If it was 20 years ago, it would be great. Now... now is too late for measured action, it is time for drastic measures.

Who decides where these things are held? "Industry dominates the economy, and more-diversified pursuits have supplemented the exploitation of oil, of which Azerbaijan was the world’s leading producer at the beginning of the 20th century." - Encyclopedia Britannica

Thanks a million, great evaluation, but do you think the commitment to tripling investment in renewables is something to celebrate and may make a truly significant change? I was also going to mention something about the powering past coal alliance, but realize now their mission statement is all about phase out of "unabated coal power" ;)

@adrianthoroughgood1191

5 ай бұрын

Unabated may not be as much of a loophole as it seems. CCS is so expensive that if you had a rule that banned coal power that didn't have CCS that would basically mean there would be no coal power because it would be cheaper to build renewables + storage.

I would say it is not your neighbor that pouring fuel, it is you yourself and your neighbor is supplying it for your analogy.

Good morning, we have since 6 months average global temperatures already ARE 1.5 degree above this "pre industrial" temperature. 2 degrees are expected to happen in the 30ies and then it will accelerate further. It's basically over, if we don't immediately change our economic systems and lives. That won't happen, therefore it's a good thing humanity removes itself from existence. It's just unfit for survival.

@peterwimsett3295

5 ай бұрын

Last month it was reported by WMO to average for year to 31 Oct +1.4C but Copernicus ERA5 has it spiking with +1.75C above (1850 to 1900) average for November. El Nino’s & peak of solar cycle cause atmospheric surges in temperatures. Most worrying is the extraordinary surge in energy imbalance detected from NASA’s Ceres satellite. We are in for a rough ride.

It is imperative that some countries consider, if they feel obliged to, possibly investigating the financial viability of implementing a cleaner* approach to burning fossil fuels so that they can continued to be burned indefinitely in a fair and just way that mitigates climate change impact and accounts for those most at risk according to the science. *subjectively

COP28 is just a mess!

Well that’s one way to put it

Co2 levels for 2023 are 5-6 ppm higher than 2022. The curve is not being bent. We simply are piling higher fossil fuel use. While pretending that green energy is replacing fossil use. What is happening is happening is green energy is simply suplimenting wasteful energy use.

I was genuinely excited when the headlines around COP28 rolled out earlier this week. Then I took the time to soak in the agreements themselves and... yeah this is far from enough of a change at this point with so much on the line. Change can happen, but wishy-washy rhetoric is the enemy of genuine positive change. A step in the right direction, but still endlessly frustrating.

on your parallel with the house on fire you forgot to mention that everybody living in the house is still doing normal thing as usual inside of it... While it burns....

@davidjennings2179

5 ай бұрын

And occasionally someone runs in from a different room and says thee house is on fire and then someone laughs at them and says "what? You've never heard of central heating? Of course it's a bit warm! It's normal"

They all burned a lot of fossil fuel just getting there.

Why did you not mention the triple of nuclear energy by 2050 by 22 countries?

Why doesn't the ipcc organise a cop28,5 where they just simply say: only climate scientists welcome. If you're part of the problem you can't be part of the solution. They make a document like the one you just discussed and that gets sent to the un

is there an official document that defines what "calls upon" means?

Great video and I like the analogy, only one problem though, whatever your neighbor is blocking it's in no way a fire brigade. There is no fire brigade coming to save us.

Thanks for the great video. I do worry that to really take this issue seriously, those in charge would have to truly see that the actual real world exists outside of the little human centric bubble our species imagined around itself where it's all about our imagined economies and the "diplomacy" between large squabbling and often self serving bureaucratic states often controlled by an elite political class who's interests are prioritised above all. We're a species born of this ancient planet that could grow and advance due to conditions of the last few thousand years that were perfect for agriculture and then centralised cities and states to blossom, but often times you find people who have a naive belief that the planet was simply made for humans and it's only because we're so great, magnificent and in the centre of everything that we got to this point. We need the humbling acceptance of understanding that intelligent life (while incredible) isn't the norm, and is very possibly far too vulnerable to self annihilation if it ever arises in the cosmos due to being very capable of advancing far too fast for its own good, leading to it wiping itself out with nukes only a short few generations after using swords and shields, or causing huge environmental havoc before it can even comprehend what the true costs are.

Great video - if only your next door neighbour would cool it with the practicing on his drum kit while you're trying to record a video. You need to have a word. 👍

Can we limit warming to 1.5 degrees? We could have, but we refused to. Can we limit warming to 2.0 degrees. We could, but we won't. Can we limit warming to 3.0 degrees? Are you not paying attention?

The Only solution: Tax oil, gas and carbon. And sanction any country who does not.

Well said but very sobering, very sobering.

"net zero" just makes me LOL! We are doomed.

How hard is it to just not invite oil tycoons to the house party. Just don’t tell them that we’re throwing a rager.

@Sythemn

5 ай бұрын

Maybe we should invite them to a wedding, perhaps of the red variety.

2 degrees and higher is already _locked in_ - there are already feedbacks accelerating at current GHG levels. Permafrost is melting, the amazon is drying up, the ice is melting, the amoc is slowing down, the ocean heat content is too high, and we're really kidding ourselves if we think we can simply stop GHG emissions at a certain temperature above the previous equilibrium level. The train is unstoppable.

@achenarmyst2156

5 ай бұрын

True and very sad. But also interesting to watch from an anthropological viewpoint.

@Praisethesunson

5 ай бұрын

The train is capitalism and it is very stoppable.

@abody499

5 ай бұрын

​ @Praisethesunson changing the mode of production makes no difference to what has happened already, in other words, the excess heat locked into the biosphere and levels of GHGs in the atmosphere that trap the heat in the first place. That's what "locked in" means. 420+ ppm of CO2 needs to be reduced to an estimated 350 at most (that's not to mention other GHGs). 3-400 zeta joules of excess heat energy have been absorbed by the ocean system and won't just disappear by changing the mode of production. We could stop all human contributing factors right now and the "train" would just keep powering on.

@General12th

3 ай бұрын

Studies that claim we're already locked into significant additional warming are, frankly, not that convincing unless you want to be convinced by doomerism.

How can those individuals not fear for their lives when the consequences of climate change, attributed to the lack and withholding of legislation, have resulted in the deaths of millions? Despite the widespread documentation and the ease of connecting the dots, it only takes one climate change advocate with the idea to "remove them from the equation," justified by the lives lost due to the actions and decisions of a finite group. Isn't it inevitable that there will be repercussions? Aren't those advocating for fossil fuels aware that violence might be imminent, with a significant price on their heads? Why is there a lack of discourse on this? I don't intend to incite or be the cause of such demonstrations or revolutions, but surely I can't be the only one foreseeing this potential outcome.

@Solstice261

5 ай бұрын

Why do you think so many countries have started cracking down on increasingly aggressive climate advocate rallies and groups, they are definitely afraid of getting to a point where some groups start considering radical violent actions

@Oscar-rq8zr

5 ай бұрын

It might be necessary for more extreme groups carry out sabotage of fossil fuel infrastructure to force some concessions. Similar to the Black Panthers and the civil rights movement.

@merrymachiavelli2041

5 ай бұрын

So what you're saying is, why aren't heads of state / senior diplomats more worried about terrorism? Most senior figures are already potential targets for half a dozen groups with grievances. There is nothing particularly novel or threatening about extremist climate change activism.

@AnymMusic

5 ай бұрын

why do they not fear? why should they care lol. millions have died? Okay but what about their economy, their money, and their income. Oil countries and any country that so much as agrees with them does not give a single iota of a damn about any of this, only money

@camelopardalis84

5 ай бұрын

Such people are never afraid. People are used to getting away with things when it comes to a lot of horrible things they do.

Great analogy 😂

I see more and more cars blocking pavements. Especially at "the school run."

Power baby!

"By the time we get to Brazil, maybe, we will have enough ambition in the room to make a difference" Being brazilian myself, I have to state something obvious: don't expect that ambition to come from Brazil, where greenwhashing has being a state policy for longer than I'm alive (and still is). The main reason Brazil tends to pollute less the developed countries is because it's too inefficient/incompetent/corrupt to become a developed nation - what can be easily confirmed by the fact our main transport modal are trucks in roads (burning fossil fuels) and we got several active thermal power plants in our electric grid.

For the algorithm!

It's like Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer all got together and came up with ideas to stop serial killers. Jason Vorhees was their special guest speaker, but he didn't say very much. 🤦

Whatever life lost from temperature rise multiply that by ten when ice age happens in next thousand years.Increase emissions now while have a chance to prevent the deep freeze.

CC is a solution, you just need abundant power, as in enough excess power to not need to burn fossil fuels, and if you don't have excess power you are producing more carbon powering the CC plant with fossil fuels than the amount captured.

We lost 50 years of inaction while thinking that the UN would make the world a peaceful place until we understood they just didn't care. Then we do the same with COP, GIEC, and climate: good ideas plagued by lobbies and unwilling governments.

Pablo Escobar hosting a drug prevention workshop 👍

I'm wondering if instead of talking about what those decisions mean for the global temperature we should start talking about how many lives will be lost over it. This might make more people understand the impact of those decisions

Cheering of sadness for the incoming decades, yeeey

There's no way we'll stop it at 2 degrees warming lol