I’ve learned my lesson on these types of videos; forward to the end to see if it is worthwhile. In this case it wasn’t

@jared2661able

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, it’ll save a lot of pain and suffering. 😄

@whome6764

3 жыл бұрын

Just did💩

@stevesfascinations1516

3 жыл бұрын

I do the same Jim, this is not only a waste of time and material, but tipy and scary as well. Thumbs down.

@gottmituns1938

3 жыл бұрын

I do the same thing. Maybe we should make a video about this "Cool Trick" for saving time...haha

@stevesfascinations1516

3 жыл бұрын

@@gottmituns1938 Absolutely, it would go viral and we could make millions! Oh, KZread stopped paying so I guess we would be forced to use 1/2 welding rods, peck welding, no safety gear and safety sandals...Some of these videos are just nuts. Full of clickbait and bad information.

That’s nearly 8 minutes I’ll never get back. Waste of time.

@baladar1353

2 жыл бұрын

You can get it as a "How NOT to weld cast iron to steel twice and how NOT to hold your round bottom gas cylinders" demonstration. Well, he didn't show why you shouldn't do such things, but you will remember 'till you die if you see the 'why' just once with your own eyes. Especially the second one.

@smarkalet9078

2 жыл бұрын

Wish I would've seen this comment eight minutes ago

@toddbertram6556

2 жыл бұрын

We must be 8n 1950. Didnt even stay long enough to see the final product.

@jeremyserrano6342

Жыл бұрын

Stupid "idea"

@skinmore

Жыл бұрын

Every time a video does not show the end result in the first couple of seconds I skip to the end to see if it is worth the time. This is not

After watching you try to weld cast iron, cold, not once but TWICE, I'm really surprised you didn't first try to weld it directly to the bottle. Now THAT would have made a GREAT KZread video !!!

@johnrice8786

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂🤪

@notajp

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t know about other parts of the world, but here in the US, brake rotors nowadays are actually cast steel, not iron....

@johnzillner1596

3 жыл бұрын

@@notajp After reading your comment I did a bit of research and I haven't found any evidence to support your claim. The fact is that US brake rotors, like the rest of the world, are predominantly cast iron.

@jhscheppele2448

3 жыл бұрын

This comment got a chuckle out of me, almost spied coffee all over

@Guitarplayer724

3 жыл бұрын

Preheat and use stainless steel filler. Works great

I'm with everyone else on these videos. If they don't tell you what it is then scroll to the end and see if it's any good. It usually isn't and you'll live longer!

@Nobody85746

2 жыл бұрын

Haha as if you're not taking a shit or wasting time watching KZread.

@user-dl9yi9mc5p

2 жыл бұрын

Дддддддддддддэддэддд

@neilhassanali316

10 ай бұрын

I do the same, but I think they still chalk up a "view"

All tanks should be chained to a wall or be secured in a tank dolley. Not sure this holder is much better as it looks like it could still tip if bumped. Anyway, to each his own.

They must use square tires in this country, this takes re invention of the wheel to a whole new level.

Sounds counter intuitive, but use some light oil when you're drilling steel. It helps the bit cut better, floats away cuttings, and most importantly, it helps keep the bit cool so it doesn't lose tempering.

@brianswelding

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! And it looked like the drill speed was quite fast as well which will produce too much heat, hardening of the steel and dulling the bit. Slow drill speed for steel and always use light oil. The tool will do all the work.

@dukeman7595

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianswelding Great point and makes sense, I changed motors on an old and very heavy well built drill press. The thing just eats bits up and not drill, I'm going to change pullies, thanks for reminding me of the problem..

@justaguy4788

2 жыл бұрын

not for cast iron. it machines great with no lube or coolant needed

@nkelly.9

Жыл бұрын

Disc made from cast iron, not steel.

@fredhughes8857

Жыл бұрын

Yes oil helps but disc brakes are cast so contain graphite which lubricates drilling.

Years back I made stands for my belt sander, grinder, and jig saw out of 1 ton Dodge rear brake drums. I just used a round plate with a 4" X 4" square tubing for the stalks, welded to the round plate for a base plate and drilled the round plate for lug bolts. Then just bolted the stalk to the big old brake drum. Then welded another plate to the top for the tool I wanted to mount to it. Was going to just use an old axle, but didn't have any old axles I wanted to cut off for the stalks. A lot easier than welding to a cast iron brake drum.

Very nice. Thank you for sharing. Kid decorates dads welder for the win!!!!

I am a professional welder I just have a tip remember car disc breaks are made of cast iron so you should use nickel welding rodes

@z3phyrdok

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man! Thanks! I've only been welding for a month.

@leemitchell3020

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with with other gentleman that pointed out it's cast. Just wanted to add, don't forget the preheat welding cast either. I think it's 450f but I'd look it up. It might even be in the paperwork that comes with the cast iron welding rod.

@leemitchell3020

3 жыл бұрын

One other thing, peen your cast iron welds right away. Old timers trick to help stop cracks. Even if it's just an old wives tale, it doesn't hurt but personally and professionally, I think it works great for

Preheat the roters first to 500deg or so dont have to be red hot. Welds alot easier .

I used a large brake rotor from a Mercedes and the steel from an old satellite dish antenna to make a stand for my belt sander a few days ago. The rotors are heavy and make good bases. I used three bolts to connect to the rotor.

Great idea for cast welding problem, steel bold. Thanks for that tip.

@raymondo162

Жыл бұрын

bolt....................

7:26: "are you shitting me?"

Good to share your ideas ka-Metal lalabs support always see u in my sample work for support ka-Metal

What daft country would have gas cylingers that dont stand up ?

@n84434

3 жыл бұрын

Cambodia or Laos

@ijaripanju3408

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know, but I know two white dudes and a Hispanic guy here in the USA that don't. Not bullshitting and I'm sure there are more

@georgedennison3338

3 жыл бұрын

Um, it isn't that the cylinders won't stand up, it's so they won't fall over, break the end off, and rocket themselves through you, or your shop wall.

@jhscheppele2448

3 жыл бұрын

The Slavic countries

Not having a piece of pipe the exact diameter of the disc brake, you can achieve the same result with three pieces of plate arranged in an equilateral triangle into which you can put the cylinder.

😂😂😂😂😂 good thing I fast forward to the last second

You had issues because of the temp of the work piece. Preheat the rotor with a torch to get it hot before you hit it with the stick. I will make for a better bond with the base metal.

@raymondo162

Жыл бұрын

but the problem here is NOTHING to do with PREHEATING. brake discs are CAST IRON, and that material is virtually impossible to weld. man's a FOOL

That's a really good idea. I should make one of those for my welding cart. Drill a couple holes in the rotor, so I can bolt it to the base.

@swappedoutZ71

2 жыл бұрын

It's a rotor it already has holes drilled in it lol

Excellent solution to weld the pieces 💯

I just braze these disks to mild steel then weld on that if I need to. I built my mobile photographic lamp stands from brake disks, using them as ballast as well as the attachment points for foldable RHS legs and their castors.

@obfuscated3090

Жыл бұрын

I use truck drums with a pie wedge sliced out (love 6" cutting discs) to slide over the post bases I use for various stands. The cut makes them easy to place from the side.

Thanks for saving our eyes👍 great job

@nandabun

2 жыл бұрын

Your screen can't get bright enough to hurt you..

Its cute when you give HIM your ideas on how to improve it. 😆 Its just a simple task he shows you. Its up to you to domsomethign about the idea. Its not a manual on how to live your life. 🤣

as usual so many experts in the comments

i just like welding disc's together lol

I always wish the end product was shown an explained first. Before watching the production. Thanks for the video

KEWL VIDEO Thanks

Well ok then, if that's what you wanted I guess it was a win for you.

Well done mate great piece of equipment.

Love those rubberized welding gloves, can't wait to see the hot slag dance when a chunk hits that rubber!

@TheHeavensHell06

3 жыл бұрын

I've been using that kind of gloves every time Im welding and had no problem with it

That's a pretty creative workaround you've come up with there but if you had used the correct welding rod and the preheating procedure you actually could weld the A26 rebar to the castiron brake rotor. Good job!

@stephenodell9688

2 жыл бұрын

What do you expect from a guy who has no proper welding gloves and no leathers? If I tried that I would have burned my cloths up.

@hootinouts

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, cast iron can be successfully welded with the proper rod. The biggest problem are thermal stresses are in the cast iron VS the filler material. They cool at different rates; therefore, a tug of war goes on and the cast iron generally loses with cracks typically forming outside the heat affected zone (HAZ). Preheating and post heating are critical but there are still no guarantees you won't get cracks in the cast iron.

@growingthegarden

Жыл бұрын

@@hootinouts what if you pre heated then let it cool down in an oven over a period of time , Just asking theoretically would that help reduce the cracks

You may have better luck welding the brake rotor (cast iron) if you pre-heat it with a torch. It needs more heat than the mild steel pipe and rebar.

Well thks for sharing great ideas here bt little more thought into doing good project we've all done mistakes but we've learned from them quickly cause ya won't get votes to help ya if ya don't plan better ther been said keep going we all do the same people say things out of kindness to show you cause they done !!! Stupid things to just saying thks for trying to show us great project 👍

Die Schweiß nähte sind ganz ok

Good idea

This person has still a lot to learn in life, but its never to late and he is still young ...

Next video, how to repair a hole in yours and your neighbors wall.

Pretty cool.

I never fast forward the video the music got me to a sleepy state thank you I had a good sleep

That was definitely 1/2 a day you will never get back!!!😂

Cool idea. Nice weld,could mig weld but ark welding needs practice hard to keep my hand going down as the stick burns.

And for my next video....... A waterproof tea bag 😎

I learned a lot about grinding rust from iron alloys. Don’t even try to weld steel to cast iron. There are two reasons to grind a weld: 1, To give the appearance of no weld. 2, You are ashamed of your weld. Your stand would still be illegal in most developed countries, as the cylinder must be fastened to a structure.

Welld done!

After pretty good idea. That will come in handy storing my full tanks and empties. Every once in a blue moon they all fall over and I'm just been lucky that I haven't broken off the valve. I could even use that to store my scuba tanks and also. Thanks for sharing such a great idea.

@obfuscated3090

3 жыл бұрын

If you want to protect your cylinders that's a solved problem called a cage or a cart you can make easily. That stand does NOTHING to protect the cylinder valve and is only mildly more tip resistant. Copy industry if you prefer to weld safely, and consider properly chaining your spare cylinders to the wall or welding table in the industry standard manner. This "Bubba" stuff gets people hurt because they don't fully understand cylinder handling even if they've welded for years. (Welding only teaches welding.)

Funny to run into this today as just today I attempted to weld steel to a brake rotor. ha ha I was sort of expecting it not to work, assuming it was cast iron. but wasn't sure. I ended up doing the same thing you just did!

Next time make your device PROTECT THE CYLINDER VALVE from impacts because that stand can still fall over. Add a removable cage or similar.

@mathewmolk2089

2 жыл бұрын

I know it's in a garage but it's an OSHA violation to not have high pressure cylinders, full or empty, to not be chained or otherwise supported.

@obfuscated3090

Жыл бұрын

@@mathewmolk2089 I don't do it because of OSH regs (not applicable at my home shop anyway) but because I've seen an errant oxygen cylinder bounce around a salvage yard after falling over and snapping the cyldder valve off at the threads! OPs base would be much safer if done with a larger rotor too.

Nicely done! Functional, practical, aesthetically pleasing, and good video example at each step. I need to slow down vids like this after first watch. BUT ARE WE ALL JUST GOING TO IGNORE BEAUTIFUL DRAWING POSTED ON EQUIPMENT IN BACKGROUND (COVERING BRAND NAME) Thumbs up to the artist

Excellent👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ thanks for sharing! Always others said “but” they no say thanks and bla bla bla, they never share nothings 😁👍

Beautiful

Thank you for sharing

OSHA is watching

I' m brasilian O live in Curitiba

You must have a sand blaster.. Negative mode while doing welding, is appreciated...

Good too learn new stuff.. 👍

Wow

@wowdiy5491

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

great job

Excellent idea and build, thank you for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍

Wish I had my 7plus minutes back

Yeah. Well, that's ok for 'some' people.👍

Maybe I need to weld in my cardy too 👍

great Idea Cheers from USA

there are 4 kinds of cast iron & some can be weld cold, but most need to be preheated. All you really needed is a castiron rod, check with you dealer & get a good welding book also.

You can weld cast iron more easily if you preheat it to over 400 degrees and weld it right after with high nickel content welding electrodes .

@kirstenspencer3630

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Creative video, thank you for sharing it :)

I made something similar only i welded it to a hand dolly with pnuematic tires. It allows any size cylinder to be moved easily. Great vid!

Wow you made that very difficult

Brake rotor is cast iron and it’s cold. Reb-bar is Japanese beer cans. WCGW? Try heating the rotor and use a nickel rod.

I like the idea of what you built but I would have to include wheels so it will be movable around in my shop . Good idea here

@wowdiy5491

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked it! I made a cart, let's be friends

@fatdad82

3 жыл бұрын

Yuuuuuuùh

Very good

very nice

brilliant

The tank needs to be in an appropriate cart or chained to a wall. A brake rotor is not sufficient as it is neither heavy enough or wide enough to prevent a cylinder from falling over. Just jiggling the top of the cylinder isn't sufficient. Also - IF you are determined to do this than at least keep the cylinder transport cap screwed on at all times. That means never take it off - even to use. Tip that cylinder over and you have a potential MISSILE.

@MrMikecole71

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it depends on what country you reside as to what regulations there are pertaining to safety in the work place. If someone has never seen a tank fall over and the valve knocked off, therefore creating a torpedo that will penetrate a couple of block walls, doesn’t know the danger of not having the tank secured to an object that won’t allow it to be knocked over and potentially killing one or more people. I agree with you 110%. It sucks when it takes a serious injury for people to use the common sense, that isn’t so common, to avoid an accident. And all accidents are avoidable.

i weld jack stands to my old rotors so they don't sink in my gravel driveway when i'm working on my vehicles. the rotors are easy to move and easy to level

Nice idea. But an a very dangerous one. That brake disk is way too small. It is more stable than a tank alone, but itcould easily be knocked over with disastrous results. DON'T DO THIS.

@todaywefly4370

3 жыл бұрын

Disagree. That bottle would be more stable than a normal flat bottomed gas bottle. Although why it has a round bottom in the first place I’ll never fathom.

@MrPanchoak

3 жыл бұрын

@@todaywefly4370 fine, but it is far from SUFFICIENT. A a disk of that size is insufficient for ANYTHING more than 2 feet, tall. Have you ever seen what happens when one of those things falls over? Regulstions in the USA require having it CHAINED to a secure object.

@thatt.s550

3 жыл бұрын

Put lag bolts in your concrete and bolts it to the rotor. Problem solved.

😳 ya kiddin me right??..... All that waste of supplies and ya coulda bought a cart from Harbor Frieght for $40.

@mr.mckinnon5680

3 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight is a tool supplier, for those who don't depend on their tools for a living.

@RenKnight347

3 жыл бұрын

That $40.00 HF cart has a weight limit of 100 lbs. So, a 70 lbs. welder, a 25 lbs plasma cutter and tank set up puts things up and over the weight limit already. Besides, the reviews say that cart is either top heavy or the welds at the wheel hubs usually always fail the instant a load is placed on it. Hardly worth parting out the $40.00 for Beijing made garbage, ehh!?

Thank you for the video. Such videos either give me a new project to consider or similar ideas to explore, or I might see methods of doing things that are better than mine also. :)

@garygray4664

2 жыл бұрын

I hope that's not true about finding better methods than yours.

@pzzuo1387

Жыл бұрын

@@garygray4664 😂

For a minute I thought he was making a waste would burner.

What rod are you using, a 7018?

Great idea, thanks for that, guess what I'll be making tomorrow :)

@urielsanchez362

3 жыл бұрын

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@urielsanchez362

3 жыл бұрын

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Great recycling idea👍👍👍

6010 runs great on rusty metal

7:55 of life waisted LOL All My welding carts hole their own bottles oddly! LOL

Made a caddy w wheels outa wood in half the time

Well that's 8 minutes I won't ever get back.

Muy fácil, fierro fundido, usa un electrodo 99% Ni y ojalá calienta el disco a unos 200 C. Todos los días se aprende algo nuevo. Saludos.

One other thing you could have done is used rod to weld cast with.i know that NAPA Auto parts,has rod to weld cast-iron and with some preheat (just to dull red stage)will give you very good results.after you have laid down your bead,keep your torch heat on it and gradually pull your heat away. DO NOT COOL QUICKLY good luck I know this sounds a lot but cast is interesting stuff.cheers!

nice job

I want one of those chipping hammers!

@stevegrundy2169

3 жыл бұрын

Machine mart 👍

Yeah, because that couldn't possibly tip over. There's a very good reason this is not already on the market. If you have a shred of personal responsibility, you will take this video down and delete if before your tomfoolery kills someone. Use your genius concoction to hold a flowerpot or something.

@markbowditch9901

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he was going to store his welding rods in it. That is about all it would be safe for?

Pre-heat the brake disk to cherry red THEN weld otherwise you don’t get penetration.

@kellyannflanagansmythe82

3 жыл бұрын

I would've expected a professional welder to know that. But I was WRONG. LOL

@lawrencecanney3137

3 жыл бұрын

Keep the heat on after welding, slowly reducing temperature to ensure the cast iron doesn't crack.

@brucehirsch5437

3 жыл бұрын

Don't need to be cherry red but he does need to get it to a couple hundred degrees. And control cool it so it doesn't crack.

@claytammaro7060

2 жыл бұрын

The brake rotor is hardened steel to weld needs pre and post heat and welded with 7018 rod.

8 minutes of my life wasted

@tdub5776

3 жыл бұрын

I always fast forward, I only wasted 30 seconds and gave a thumbs down for wasting that amount of time haha

@jritchiejritchie2687

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@stevendanielscobbie

3 жыл бұрын

Easily one of the biggest wastes of time I've ever seen. Dogshite

@mr.mckinnon5680

3 жыл бұрын

Well... You could have watched a different video.

@josephiodice5934

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would be a VERY GOOD IDEA if you would show what you make.... eg. The end product, AT THE BEGINING OF THE VIDEO. Then we, the viewers can decide if this is the project we wish to follow or build. We can also note and catalogue each video in our own index with a description of the article. Then we can share or demonstrate your fantastic skill for others to watch on KZread. But the way you present the videos is too difficult to refer to others in discussion or to find a particular video later.

Good project! A suggestion...add some wheels off the back so you can wheel it around!

si queres soldar eso aprovecha el oxido asi levanta mas temperatura, por el efecto termita y funde mas, si no, es imposible de soldardo

I use anything close by. Wire etc.chain. Inside on a flat floor?they stand on there flat under sides.

Que legal

Welds a lot easier if you use cast iron welding rods like inconnel welding rods to weld cast-iron to carbon steels and if you don't have those rods handy a good oxy-ace torch and some braising rods would have welded that rebar to the rotor. Not a bad idea although I guess!

@raymondo162

Жыл бұрын

Makes me laugh (sic). a tutorial where the tutor is ignorant of basic welding metallurgy. cast iron is NOT easy to weld...... especially if you know feckall

Until it tips over breaks off the regulator and sends that disk through the sky like a leathal Frisbee

@general5104

2 жыл бұрын

When it does, and if he lives thru it, he will understand what SECURE THE BOTTLES actually mean! I've seen the aftermath of when an oxygen bottle was turned into a JATO bottle. It wasn't pretty. There's no telling how many people can die from being run thru from that!

Why not just use a piece of plate steel for base? Be a whole lot easier.