People are always so quick to talk about the price of these lights. While there’s definitely some “custom tax” on it, you’re also paying for YEARS of design, MONTHS of coding and days and days of machining, polishing and building. It’s not something everyone can afford, but to say they’re not worth it as an art piece is ridiculous

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

This is very true. And on top of that, people vastly underestimate how difficult they are to even make. Dave told me a couple facts about production that blew my mind: spy switch cost $25 (premium grade) gasket tolerances less than a thousandth , gasket width 15 thousand 2 hours to machine time the trek body (machine cost close to a million, so you can do cost analysis) vegas crown 4 ops Vegas body 6 ops trek body 3 hours hand work tri-v contains 101 parts, and it has dozens of ops. sometimes setup is 1000x the cost of the part

@acutetrashpanda

6 ай бұрын

@@cheule very impressed with the engineering, quality, and ui of these. i did not understand the price tag either until i handled one - you can tell no expense was spared and everything is thoughtfully designed. the twist battery cap alone is 18 parts and includes 20 .040" ball bearings for that low friction twist. i don't know what more an end user could ask for from a programmable light firmware either. after using the vegas knob it is almost impossible for me to go back to clicky switches and i've edc-ed some of the best for over a decade - mcgizmo, hanko, cwf, etc. the pricing commentary on these is comical - people are so used to getting mass production items for cheap they have lost touch with the true cost of a person doing r+d, engineering, machining, and building a custom product to high quality tolerances would be, not to mention raw material costs.

well this explains why Cool Fall is in that price bracket.

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

The UI is second to none. And even though the driver and UI are crazy good, the price really comes from how difficult it is to manufacture. I’ve seen comments saying it is “over priced,” and I don’t even respond. They simply have no idea what is really involved.

@briansworld6682

6 ай бұрын

@@cheule just ordered mine last week 🥰

I hope to be the grateful owner of one of these one day

Would love to see a similar video for the tri-v. Also, have you done a review video of the tri-v?

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

I have not, I got my first (an only) Tri-V on secondary just a few weeks ago. It’s an older v2, and even then it set me back quite a bit.

Where can I by something? You talked a few times but I didn’t hear the$$$? Thanks, Cheers!

I've studied an electronics engineering degree but I honestly found this vid a bit long and drawn out so I couldn't actually watch it all. The light seems to be to much faff and so such a light does not seem desirable to me personally but I do like that you provide these vids for people that are interested in such. I can enjoy a light with one mode that is simply on and off. Sometimes maybe less is more.

@cheule

5 ай бұрын

This is a video manual for people who own this light, or prospective buyers. It wasn’t a review.

@geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz

5 ай бұрын

@@cheule Yes of course. I hope others enjoyed & benefited from it.

@phildo864

4 ай бұрын

@@geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzwhat is faff?

Not going to lie, this is the first time I have seen your face lol. Has anybody told you that you bear a passing resemblance to Adam Savage? 🤣

@cheule

4 ай бұрын

Actually, it’s been said a few times :)

Check how much a Cool Fall Spy costs... this is not the video for me.

@Rascal77s

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I realize there's lot of millng involed in making these, but there is also a lot of crack ivolved in pricing them.

@TikTok_Sucks

6 ай бұрын

Maybe try the Spy Tri-V instead. 👍

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

I posted this elsewhere, and I’ll post it again here. If you know anything about milling hopefully some of these things will mean something to you: gasket tolerances less than a thousandth , width 15 thousand 2 hours machine time for body vegas crown 4 ops Vegas body 6 ops trek body 3 hours hand work tri-v 101 parts, sometimes setup is 1000x the cost of the part If you know what an op is, then you realize quickly how this light was not designed to be cost effective to make. On the contrary it was designed to be the best, in the face of being much harder to make.

Thanks, Cheule. I’ve really been enjoying your series of videos on this light. Information is limited online, and even though I’m not interested in buying one, I love seeing stuff like this. The engineering and ingenuity involved with this driver and the overall host design is so interesting. The folks saying the light is dumb because of the price are missing the point, and I’d love to see an inventory of their possessions so I can make fun of their overpriced hobby too.

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the well thought out, and genuine, comment. I appreciate it.

That thing is just plain dumb. There's nothing carry friendly about that design. Hard pass for me.

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

I literally don’t carry anything else any more. I love the design so much. And fwiw, I’ve bought wvery Cool Fall light I have. They’re that good.

@SemiNormal42

6 ай бұрын

@@cheule Jetbeam RRT-01 is life.

Gee, such a bargain at a mere $2000 😮🙄

@geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but Mr Cheule needs the $1999 fee for a new hat lol! I think traditional hot cakes will continue to sell more quickly but these look like ok lights if that's what you want.

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

I may need hat money, but I not only don’t make any money off of Cool Fall products, I’ve spent quite a bit on them. Every one I have, I’ve purchased.

@geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz

6 ай бұрын

@@cheule Fair enough. I have no dispute with having choice of product available and glad you enjoy these lights and have enough "disposable income" to have purchased these yourself as so many reviews are based on freebies sent to reviewers, which I don't mind either but it probably does come with some feeling of obligation to talk a product up some. I'm happy to be clarified when necessary. Nice hats.

Buy wurkkos and forget this staff😂

@cheule

6 ай бұрын

Hah! 😉