Wow! Thanks so much for showing us this amazing tool. In the mix, the ACE Studio vocal harmonies sounded very realistic. As a songwriter, I will probably get a subscription to create harmonies for my original songs. As a lousy singer, I may even pay to get a model of my voice created so I see if ACE can create a lead vocal track that sounds like me singing, but better than me actually singing. Some people might say I should just work on getting better at singing, but I don't know how well that would work out. I may try in future, but meanwhile, I'll see if AI can help. I have been using Band in a Box for several years now (first for Windows, and now for Mac). I really like it, even if the interface is a bit ugly. To me, it is pretty much AI in its ability to take the chords and melody I create and generate a very convincing song arrangement. From there, I either use the arrangement as is or as a starting point, separating the stems and replacing some or all of them with my own tracks that use some of the amazing sample libraries I own. Great fun. I haven't tried the melodist feature that generates a melody, but you've inspired me now. Again, thanks. Peter.

Ace is an Awesome tool!! I will be using it on my channel!! Thank you for this tutorial!!

Synthesizer V is similar to ace studio. It's a onetime purchase. 1 for software and 1for a voice bank. It doest use cloud rendering, making it a bit faster. You can also do the voice to Ai voice like in ace studio. I actually prefer it to ace studio. Just thought I'd share

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Yes, I've heard of Synthesizer V. I'm just not sure how much I can evaluate it and demonstrate it without purchasing a bunch of voices. It's been a while since I looked at it. Probably worth a revisit.

@bungalowbill3409

Ай бұрын

​@@BobDoyleMediaThere is a free version granted it has some limitations and there are free voice banks available as well

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

@@bungalowbill3409 Cool. I'll go look at it again. :)

27:22, that’s true. It’s looks very tedious and exhausting. I will stick with SUNO AI and then fix the vocals with ACE Studio.

Sounds are not compressed if you buy the "Audiophile Edition" (the most expensive version). Otherwise you'll have WMA files. They have a good compression, but it's still a compression.

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

True, but it’s a world of difference from the compression that we’re talking about with the normal AI generator tools. A big world.

@codisilver

Ай бұрын

Of course, because for now compression by AI generators such as SunoAI is totally unacceptable for professional or even amateur purposes.

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

@@codisilver Depends on the amateur. I mean people ARE doing it...AND it's getting accepted...for NOW...by SOME. This is why I did the earlier Band in a Box video because it can read the chord structure of the generated AI song and then you can recreate it with stylistic precision. I'll be doing an updated video on this soon to reflect the updates in band in a box.

Great video! Thank you.

Woooooh! Thank you so much for this!

This is amazing! The ideas you can come up with is fantastic! Wonder if any artists today use this?

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

I occasionally hear from some that do!

Thanks Bob!

Thanks! Great videos. 🙏🏼

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Very very nice my friend !!!!

Hello to all the people that are too narrow minded to use these tools but watch the video anyway.

Very interesting and educational video thanx, but PAID PAID PAID PAID PAID, everything is in paid app, is there any way to generate a solid melody/music/song anything from freewares?

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

I think it's important to remember how many countless hours must go into creating these tools. Not all developers have the luxury of unlimited funding to be able to offer their solutions. I'm sure if you'd put your blood, sweat, and tears into something, you'd want some form of compensation for your time if this is your career choice. It's GREAT that we have so many free options available right now. I LOVE open source solutions, and I always look for them. But at the end of the day, if the result I get from a tool make it's purchase a good investment, then I have ZERO problem paying for it. But if it's just going to sit on my hard drive for someday (like a LOT of software does on MY system)...then yeah. Why pay for it if you're not going to get the value from it? I appreciate that ACE at least gives you 2 weeks to determine if the value is there or not for your particular case.

@memesandfun1

Ай бұрын

Lol, yeah, I know. I would definitely pay if I could afford such programs. ​@BobDoyleMedia

Does it works only in english or even with language like italian?

Could be very useful for cleaning up tracks made with AI music generators like Suno. TY.

It’s cool but I need that Randy Ai Voice!!!

11:25 sounds a bit like some video game music for a mario level

Ah, this is all very great but I would really miss composing, arranging and mixing myself, so rewarding..

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Well, actually most of this video was about arranging and mixing (though I didn't bore the viewer with it, since I hardly know what I'm doing in that area). As far as composing, you can still absolutely do that with Band in a Box. If you know the chord progression of your song then you can create an amazing starting point, which then you can rework, or just take a seed of inspiration from. The point of these tools is NOT to take away the creative process, but to enhance/assist it.

@KenshoBeats

Ай бұрын

@@BobDoyleMedia but can you create your own sounds, layer them, process them etc?

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

@@KenshoBeats For the most part, both these tools are best suited to create source material that would be better processed in a traditional DAW. That's where I'd do the things you're talking about.

@KenshoBeats

Ай бұрын

@@BobDoyleMedia thx for pointing that out. What I mean is starting with one single ‘stroke’ and work that into a composition. So source material is a broad term imho. What I mean is completely do the sound design yourself. However even if these programs would completely replace all that, it would be ok just because non musicians can have fun and learn making music as well.

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

@@KenshoBeats Yes, Band in a Box has tons of music education built into it. I didn't talk about it, but education is a big part of what that program is about. Helping you to practice and become better at your "real" instrument.

To me Ace Studio sounds more synthetic and obviously not real than synthesizer V. What do you guys think?

Well, thank you, but even tho ace is good and band in a box is good too, is kinda overpriced, but the knowledge, just like you said, is precious

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it requires a different level of commitment to play with some of these things. It’s actually kind of goofy that I keep upgrading band in a box because historically I really don’t do too much with it in the end. I just like playing with it and keeping up with its advancements. Now, I’m glad I did.

I'm still waiting for the day when i'll be able to turn vocals into melody

@bungalowbill3409

Ай бұрын

There are already tools available for that if the vocal contains a melody, Melodyne for example... SynthV can also do this as well

👍👍👍👋🏻

Isn't this just a glorified sample bank with additional tuning and control?

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Which are you talking about? Ace or Band in a box?

Shity song - go for a blues or country rock song? Thank you for your great input - I'm almost convinced... ;-)

Band in a Box seems outdated, not much rock stuff. Price needs to come down to be worth it for me. Like 50%🥰 Ace Studio is ridiculously overpriced. WOW!!! 💩

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

BB has a ton of rock stuff, a ton! Of all genres. You should go check out the complete list of real styles over at their page. It’s 34 years of style creation. Thousands and thousands of styles and genres. www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultrapak.htm#rtlist And as far as price, that's completely subjective depending on your needs. For some people, spending 22 a month rather than dealing with "real singers" in certain cases could be TOTALLY worth it. If it doesn't fit your use case, then it really doesn't matter how cheap it is if you won't use it. Same with Band in a Box. As a user of it for 34 years, I can assure you that what you get - if you use it and take the time to learn it - is many times what they're charging in value. But if you're not the target audience, again, it really doesn't matter because you won't get the value out of it anyway.

@bloodyiceberg6827

Ай бұрын

yes if some daw company will implement these features they will anigilate these guys.

@scorpionleader1967

Ай бұрын

@@BobDoyleMedia I might look at BiaB again. Good point on the DAW. I am a singer so very little value for me.

@scorpionleader1967

Ай бұрын

@@BobDoyleMedia BiaB is really not worth it on Mac. 1000 less sounds for same price. Big JOKE!!!

@pgmusicinc

Ай бұрын

@@scorpionleader1967 Right now our Mac version is at 2023 and our Windows version is at 2024. You'll see (hear?) more sounds with that upgrade, once it is available.

overpriced and over-complicated. Huge learning curves

@BobDoyleMedia

Ай бұрын

Again, it just depends on if you can benefit from its functionality or not. For some people, it's worth the learning curve. I'm sure there are tools or whatever that you've chosen to spend more time on than others would simply because you're more interested in it. Personally, if I want to be able to accomplish a task, and there IS a solution - and it's within my grasp - then most of the time, I'll take whatever time necessary to learn it. That goes with most of what I cover here on the channel, especially with the AI video, animation, and face-swapping. CRAZY amounts of time I've spent learning the ins and outs that most people would not. So it's just a personal thing. And overpriced, is also completely subjective based on the value you get out of it when you commit to learning what it can do. Not everyone will have the same passion/patience.

@IKilledTheDodo

Ай бұрын

Unlike learning to sing, play instruments, record, mix and master, you mean?

@JustMamba

Ай бұрын

Yea you dont need the band box just download a midi chord pack or just learn the chords. Thatll prolly take the most time but will be most beneficial. I just stick with a midi pack abd its helped me to learn most of the chords as i go. Now i dont even need it. Also ive tried all of the other voice to midi and similar products but tbis is definitely one of the easier ones to get great sounding vocals quickly. The others you have to mess around with for hours sometimes and still not get anythinf working. The only program i would take over this is the dreamtonics synthesizer pro as well as there new vocoflex.

hope seriously the program have some kind of standard phonetics language to control, cause if not its its horrible. But beside the generation of the voices I have a hard time to see the AI in this program .. it really sound that way ... horrible. A sample based choir library with phonetical text builder sound better. I really can't see the use of this .. If you have to pay ~300$ to make your own voice and the time it takes building the lyrics and getting the pronouncation just "reasonable" I can hire a singer to come in and record the voice much faster at maybe a tad more money and then It's a real Voice .. not a Japanese Manga computer generated animation 😵‍💫😵.. . Sorry but this is not gonna make singers out of work anytime soon 😂

@mrdali67

23 күн бұрын

beside that .. BiaB is still today 35ish year later a piece of software that had seriously potential but never delivered. And for the money it cost you are honestly better off using your money on a hardware arranger. The "live" styles is not even close to be on par with Ketron which is also still being beaten by "midi" based arranger like Yamaha and Korg. There is no revolution here at all.

@BobDoyleMedia

23 күн бұрын

I don't think the goal is to put singers out of work. I do agree that the price for the voice model seems way out of whack, but unless I tried it with a real voice, it's hard to know exactly what it would sound like. But while I wouldn't say this stuff is "horrible", it's certainly not ready to produce lead vocals. But I do make a point of saying that it's better suited for backup vocals. Plus, all this is in its infancy. Rather than judge something as "horrible" at this stage in the game, I think it's better to just observe the progress that is being made, understanding that NONE of this is perfect yet, and folks need to understand that if they're going to play in this space at this point in time. As "horrible" as you say it is, it's still pretty miraculous that this can be done at all, and it will only get better.

Bro need something that can change existing song lyrics of any singer for free of course 🙂🥲

@morizanova

Ай бұрын

Microphone and good real singer😂