"With Lord of the Tachyon Galaxy and the all mighty Dragon Rulers right around the corner..." We have been right around the corner for like 6 weeks by now Alex

"Heavy Storm taught players to be conservative" ~Alex Cimo, Turning Point Domino City

@cba_2442

2 жыл бұрын

Better that than the other way.

@aguythatplayscardgames1181

2 жыл бұрын

1d ago. Here we go again

@mb778_

2 жыл бұрын

when you step on a lego

@cptKamina

11 ай бұрын

@@cba_2442 What other way?

For anyone curious why Cimo wasn't playing Constellar omega+Sombre, it's because those cards came out in Lord of tachyon galaxy which is in the same set as Dragon rulers

@BrandyJ

2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was wondering. I played this back then and Sombre is what made the deck really potent. I pooped on dragon ruler players because of plediades getting through draccosack so easily. I never played the bear package though, was way too expensive and slow

7:59 Constellar Pollux and Evilswarm Castor have the same effects for their respective archetypes. Castor and Pollux being the brothers of Helen of Troy, the famous 'Gemini Twins' of Greek mythology.

@DrDrao

2 жыл бұрын

Their best cards, kerk and sombre also have effectively the same effect.

@theduxabides9274

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDrao Also on purpose, since Kerykion and Sombre (the latter actually being Gem Knights Lapis Lazuli) team up in the end to defeat the Goddess Sophia in the Duel Terminal saga. "It's like poetry, it rhymes"

@micheledelloglio5820

2 жыл бұрын

Evilswarm Castor was originally a Constellar, twin of Pollux, who was corrupted by the Lswarm virus. Later on, Constellar Rosalgue tried to raid the Evilswarm and steal their power to win the war, but was corrupted and become Evilswarm Kerykeion. But Kerykeion still has his sanity and used the power of the corrupted Ice Dragons to fight alongside his brothers and sisters (who fused all into Sombre) to fight Sophia. At the end of the story Sombre and Kery becomes the new gods of creation and destruct

@phoney4258

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the perfect idea for an adaptation. Konami get on it.

@micheledelloglio5820

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoney4258 They started the Sky Striker manga. MAYBE they understood that their own lore is cool AF.

As a past active Constellar player, I feel Cimo could have won the match or have a better game state of he actually knew Pleiades Effect was in both players field, examples (bounce pollux instead of gorz when he torrentialed in game 1 and bounce tenki when IT got mind controled in game 2)

@oliverdeeley

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Like Evilswarm, Constellars was a deck that you needed really know the tiny details of the deck to fully play efficiently.

@sershpelayo8825

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliverdeeley Exactly IT was not autopilot and any misplay or a bad use of resources was a 100% loss, thats why IT ran safe zone to pop any monster by bouncing IT with pleiades, IT reused fiendish chain, tenki and call by the haunted as well to gain more advantage And momentum.

@Infernosab3r

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget actually using xyz reborn to revive Pleiades which he ignored all game in game 2

@elrompecabezasdelmilenio6210

2 жыл бұрын

Reading is a power ;p

@sershpelayo8825

2 жыл бұрын

@@Infernosab3r im not defending Cimo because regardless he would not do IT or who knows but in game 2 both xyzs did not properly summon do to T King so theres no legal target for xyz reborn

it hurts to see how cimo... never thought of bouncing back his own tenki with Pleiades.

@TR-qf2gt

2 жыл бұрын

or how cimo didnt use thr Tenki ATK gain to crash Kaus into Rai-Oh and keep Pollux. granted he wouldn't get the search but he already has a ROTA but it would've been better than using multiple monsters as Rai-Oh fodder

@coreygolphenee9633

2 жыл бұрын

This is precisely why he was the most annoying boss monster post laggia

When they get to this point in history of jank I want someone to pilot pre-LVAL Raccoons. The deck at this point in time was Junk Warrior OTK but it did have a few tricks up its sleeve like The Fabled Unicore, Frozen Fitzgerald being a budget Armades, and Wind Up Kitten being a Compulse on four legs so it gave a recurring bouncing once Ayers Rock Sunrise was released in Dragons of Legend.

I feel like saying Chaos ends here isn't completely true unless you mean specifically the ones using those cards since I'd argue plenty of variants of things like Thunder Dragons or Dragon Link would also classify as chaos decks

@lilsunny7399

2 жыл бұрын

it's more that chaos as a strategy, like purposefully playing lights and darks together to enable BLS or Sorc fell off. Some decks later like B.A. and Thundra could justify running chaos cards by having either dual attributes like thundra or hand trap/tech choices to fill the other side like BA playing veiler or ogre. Even then it was mostly a teched in BLS or Levianeer.

@mateusrp1994

2 жыл бұрын

Dragon Link fits the bill a bit better, but there's a reason its called Dragon Link and not Chaos Link, since it only uses a few Chaos monsters because they happen to be dragons.

@tambutt9822

2 жыл бұрын

There are definitely still chaos monsters and decks running a lot of light/dark monsters, but not really decks that only run them because they are chaos typing. Like thunder dragons runs the baby chaos dragons because they can go into seals and proc thunder effects, and the thunder dragons are light and dark - but they aren't just shuffled into any other "chaos" deck.

@meathir4921

2 жыл бұрын

They’re also kind of ignoring Grass decks

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget Shaddolls. Honestly, I've always felt that Shaddolls were created with Chaos in mind. The main deck monsters are mostly dark types and their main boss monster is a light monster which also requires light monsters as fusion material. Coincidence? I think not!

I was at the April 2013 YCS in Columbus, running around everywhere looking for Bears. I remember people talking about XYZ Reborn because of Evilswarms. They thought it would be good to chain Reborn to the activation of Mermail Abyssteus and Abyssmegalo, bringing back Evilswarm Ophion because of Ophion’s continuous effect that level 5 and higher monsters cannot be special summoned.

We called the short time before Dark Armed Dragon Edison format, I think it'd be funny if we called the short time before the dragon rulers Tesla format or something.

The Constellar monster works similar to something like Cali Yuga, where the double summon effect resolves upon normal summon, without activating, so negating the monster does nothing, because the player has already been granted the effect to summon again.

@tomsaer705

2 жыл бұрын

I never knew this! What a crazy ruling. I do feel like the one thing that should change with YGO card text is stating clearly what 'conditions' are

@TheMatt_SD

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomsaer705 they do, you have to know what to look for. An effect only activates if it has a colon or a semicolon. The effect doesn't activate if those aren't present. Good examples of this are Chaos Sorcerer and Cyber Dragon. Their summon conditions don't activate, because neither punctuation is present.

@cephery8482

2 жыл бұрын

I love that kali works that way cause it means it can out an active mystic mine from under it

@phoney4258

2 жыл бұрын

Does the same apply to Noble Knight Custennin?

@tomsaer705

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMatt_SD Yeah I get that rule (competitive player and judge etc. so I know most rulings). But I do think that conditions are unclear. E.g. PK Rusty Bardiche reads: "Cannot be used as Link Material." This to me reads very similarly to effects that can be negated, such as "Cannot be destroyed by card effects." My understanding is that even if you negate Rusty's other effects, it still cannot be used as link material, but I don't think that's very clear as far as the text goes. Someone told me that the OCG has a special part of the text on their cards that separate conditions and make them more clear.

I'm hoping they do one more match in this format. Inzektors was a really interesting deck at this time with hornet and dragonfly at 1. It lead to a really interesting deck build and was also THE ONLY YCS WIN INZEKTORS GOT. Inzektors never won when they were at full power but ended up winning their first YCS after it was limited.

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

They will use up the wheel before Rulers format. So two more episodes of this format. And I acutally think this a very great and diverse format that has been overlooked. This honestly deserves a discord server.

@rhystictomato5635

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaman1331 pretty sure this is known as Meadowlands format in Format Library. I think it already has its own server as well.

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

​@@rhystictomato5635 Neat. I gotta look it up. Gotta show these fools how to play Constellar properly just for them to school me about it xD

I love how they keep putting off the inevitable. D-Ruler isn't that complicated of a deck to play, especially in comparison to some of the decks they play in modern Yugioh.

@123321cpu

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it isn't complicated to nesscarily pilot but the mirror will easily show whos better.

@TheCagedK

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not a hard deck to play but because of the 2 deck format(evilswarm lul) there is a lot of depth to some of the interactions that actually make it a hard format. Similar to goat format, the fewer decks the more intricate it can be

@sammydray5919

2 жыл бұрын

No said the deck is complicated lol. Just that the 2 deck format just shits on every other deck thats all 🤣

@U1TR4F0RCE

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t prophecy though one of the harder decks?

@jarzz3601

2 жыл бұрын

not complicated but it is boring

That game one perfectly demonstrated why I used Star Cradle in my Constellars. There is no single Contellar that can do anything from that position, since Sombre still had a few weeks to come out.

I just built constellars for time wizard format and played it in locals, really fun deck, sombre is actually goated

This is the best yugioh I've seen to date. The entire zexal era(minus dragon rulers) has been so diverse and enjoyable like man a time ruler format for this would be great

@Marcusjnmc

2 жыл бұрын

iirc this is called the Meadowlands format after an event from the time period, there was a small tournament ran for it last week , it's currently on the front page of format library

@coreygolphenee9633

Жыл бұрын

If you take drulers and propechy out march 2013 is super fun too

And that kids is why Rai-Oh was on the semi-limited/limited list for many years.

@johnathanlemus5584

2 жыл бұрын

And now it’s a joke……. Zexal-Arc v era really was intresting.

Dragon Rulers right around the corner for over a month now lul

Cimo, the release of Sombre vastly helps out this deck as well as jamming a bunch of floodgates in. This deck tops later in Dragon Ruler format because Pleiades + Vanity's Emptiness/Macro Cosmos/Soul Drain is pretty much an auto-win vs Rulers/Prophecy.

@TheShogun100100

2 жыл бұрын

+1 on this, i played the crap outta this deck and without sombre it just doesnt have the staying power much like Ophion.dek doesnt have staying power without Kerykeion.

@coreygolphenee9633

Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that you can bounce your floodgates to make removal whiff,

Oh that Veiler-Pollux interaction takes me back haha! I remember after the events started rolling in where arguments around that card and its Evilswarm twin Castor were raging and people found out. Kaus is also a Beast-Warrior because it's a centaur. Not easy to see due to the angle and the fact he is rearing up.

While LTGY gives us all of the Dragon Rulers, it also give us Constellar Sombre and Constellar Omega - both boons to the Constellar strategy. While Dragon Rulers ran around, there was a budget option to play Constellar with these additions and Vanity's Emptiness. Pleiades notably was able to bounce Blaster destruction targets to avoid losing the Emptiness.

@LightshaverConstellation

2 жыл бұрын

Pleiades with Macro or d fis up was a tough moment for d rulers because you could eat up enough early advantage they would generate but then they couldn't out you with blaster. Deck lockdown is also super underrated in the main and was a great bounce back target.

@Kwikpanik

2 жыл бұрын

@@LightshaverConstellation I neglected to mention Deck Lockdown. Good call-out. That card got pricey during that stint.

"with dragon rulers right around the corner"-the past 4-5 episodes. Geez this has been a long corner.

MBT: last time chaos decks topped. Different Thunder Dragon versions during link era: Are we a joke to you?

The reason this list wasn’t playing Omega is because it came out in LTGY. Maybe if it and Sombre had come out alongside the rest of the deck it wouldn’t have been overshadowed by the Rulers, but I doubt it considering the deck lacked ways to compensate for the advantage lost by having to use two cards in hand to do anything relevant.

@thunderworm24

2 жыл бұрын

Game 3 when Cimo didn’t chain Pleiades to Mind Control I wept lol

@LightshaverConstellation

2 жыл бұрын

I wept as well. And yes that was always the issue when I played constellars back then. If constellars actually generated advantage I do think it easily would have been a tier 1 at one point because you catch a glimpse of it star chart builds. There was actually a one duel I had where I out paced d rulers because I was going + 3 on each of our turns. But star chart has it's own issues and only really good in multiples with other cards and cradle kinda sucked because losing the bp did suck you needed to manage your Pleiades bounces and needed just to keep smaller stuff off the board so they can't xyz next turn or just actually do damage. I do think sombre pre LTGY would have been interesting because I think macro stelars would be the way to go, but at the same time you can realistically 1 for 1 out or smartly out trade everything but mermail and in some starts dino rabbit. At the very least it would allowed for more common overlaying m7 on a omega since it is less specific then praesepe and you are normally in a winning position if your opponent doesn't kill the m7 on their turn because you get to actually get advantage back. It was heavily underrated in march 13 format though. The deal ruler match up wasn't bad if you knew to play floodgates right, evilswarm is normally free, and the floodgates kinda beat most other playable decks if you went first or you went second and didn't get hand sniped or something. Besides spellbooks. Spellbooks was a pain because you won or lost on the coin flip usually as you won if you opened tkr or deck lock down but then the game 3 you just win because you almost always just won when you go first but you had to open drool going second in the one game 2 or 3 you went second unless they somehow opened the jowgen with no protection outside a fate because then you can possibly pollux additional normal over the jowgen but you normally only get that play game 1 because they auto assume you are rulers.

@coreygolphenee9633

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the rulers would usually eat boss set 5 decks hard

I have fond memories of playing yugioh legacy of the duelist and constantly getting sacked by constellar pleadies good times...... Good times 😓

@itsachickenwiththing

2 жыл бұрын

The Constellar dude in the story mode was a real wake-up call for us yugi-boomers going into the game.

Its been a blast, Chaos. From here onwards, the order of Archetypes reigns supreme. Sure there will be the occasional HAT-esk deck of mixing archetypes that synergise together, small engines that help facilitate the main deck, even the occasional wacky combo FTK but they are only small bleeps on the radar. The wildwest era is over and now is the era of skyscrapers. It came full circle with Chaos.

@jacobjensen7704

2 жыл бұрын

Are you aware that the current meta is comprised of almost entirely entirely decks that mix a ton of archetypes together?

@VGV1deo

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the order of Archetypes seems to currently be ending, with the Engine Empire conquering it

@Marcusjnmc

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobjensen7704 a thing can be true applying to a period of time, it's a historical series

Cimo and MBT making my friday lunch at work the best it can be thanks guys

"Truly the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome of decks" - MBT 2022

Consteller is one of my old favorites, you can see what would become Starttellers(my favorite archetype) down the line and I love it. They weren’t the strongest but they were simple and I really like that about them, definitely wish they would get some more support

@TheShogun100100

2 жыл бұрын

I have to say despite satellars later down the line being more consistent because of Deneb and Triverr being an absolute house I did massively miss the ability to go into rank 5s. Pleiades + set lance was a great opener but man volcasaurus into gaia dragon would absolutely steal games out of nowhere.

Just wanna say, when MBT says “Chaos is dead”…someone forgot chaos BA…and Thunder Chaos, and just Dragon link as a whole

@brandonreeds9587

2 жыл бұрын

Dragon Link, Thunder and BA all used Chaos as an extender rather than a win condition

@jeffreylebeaux6141

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonreeds9587 I disagree on that. BA maybe, but that was a game ended rather then extended. But Thunder dragon chaos was the name and used an extensive Chaos engine, things like BLS, the baby chaos dragons, Levi, and the Thunder dragon level 8 monster, were bombs as well as extenders. Dragon link today is more chaos than anything else and the point of the deck is too play light/dark monsters to facility chaos typings. Also, let’s not forgot that the chaos deck MBT played literally played 2 chaos monsters (Sorc and BLS), while these decks have double or triple that

I remember taking Constellar to nationals when the archtype came out and be the only one to play it because it was mostly Evilswarm

@TheShogun100100

2 жыл бұрын

Constellar actually had a wicked matchup against Ophion.dek. Nothing they could do against pleiades. This is all of course after sombre came out.

Constellar was one of the coolest decks for a whole month and that makes me sad.

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean "was"?

@drstrangejove637

2 жыл бұрын

The saddest part is that the best cards in the deck (Omega and Sombre) were released in the same set that made constellar irrelevant.

@pancakes7483

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaman1331 it was cool until we knew the deck was mid and it loses to a lot of things in the game.

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@pancakes7483 Their problems were further compounded by the fact that their strongest boss monster was semi-generic. It's sad that other decks could use it more efficiently that they themselves.

@pancakes7483

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaman1331 yeah... I just want the deck to get a lot of support so it can shin and challenge if not beat the annoying meta we have.

Constellar is my favorite deck. And god does this decklist take me back

1st competitively built deck, so it has a special place in my heart. Went 2-2, but still enjoyed it playing it... now I'm a PendulumGudShit player.

This is a very interesting format, made even more interesting by the sheer stubborn attempts to avoid their fates and play rulers

Ah yes, veiler pollux, the classic that everyone does at some point and then realize Pollux is kinda cracked

Cimo dominating History becauseJoseph is dominating Jank.

Cimo running into my struggle with Constellars back in the day. "This deck is so cool!" .... "Why does this deck actually suck so much?"

Damn boys, we are threading near History of Jank at this point

I've been loving this era of Yugioh on history. I made this damn agent list. Nostalgic as hell.

Cimo had a line in game 2 when he had tenki and a bunch of constellars in hand vs rai oh and sorc. HGe could have summoned his 3 constellars, kaus is a beast warrior so he could have crashed with rai oh while tenki was up after using his effect to buff the levels of the others. Thought i'd share.

@kimoritasu

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. It always makes me said when the play poorly and lose but blame it on the deck being bad.

The amount of times someone would try to veiler a Pollux or Castor back in the day still makes me laugh

Cimo's biggest obstacle with constellars (aside of rai-oh) was probably that Trag and Gorz punish the use of Pleidas.

Cimoo...Constellars tops several times past this. It tops at least a couple of times in DRuler format and several times after that in the two formats that come after. You haven't gotten Sombre yet which is a big turning point of the deck. This deck was actually like Tier 2 for a little while in some less powerful formats at the end of 2013 into 2014.

0:59 THE WHEEL IS BACK!!! 2:32 So next episode Cimooo plays Inzektor's vs MBT's Mermail? 2:34 MBT's deck: Chaos Agents 6:26 Cimooooo's Deck: Constellar 11:20 Game 1 13:12 Another Rullings class in session featuring Constellar Pollux 21:33 Game 2 27:37 Game 3

This was a deck that my friend played back in the middle school days, and a play I remember him doing but Cimo didn't do was Pleadies bounce back the tenki to re-use him later, and him using the lv 3 way more often

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Pleiades can bounce back Call of the Haunted, Tenki or even Vanity's Emptiness for advantage. And M7 could get back your Kaus from the grave. Cimo doesn't know Constellar well enough.

Cannot overstate how hyped I am for infernity.

Listens to the intro for the 3rd episode: How many corners are there?

2013 was fun because it had a bunch of win cons available for decks that couldn't hang with the best 2. There were a bunch of decks that could auto win if they drew a one of x but would have to play crazy smart to beat them straight up

Praesepe was one of my first 3 Xyz monsters. (Tiger King and Grenasaurus were my other 2.) For some reason, the guy was selling Secret Rares for a dollar.

"And then it stops topping... Forever" Somebody tell Joseph he forgot about Chaos Thundra

Man I miss playing chaos agents easily in my top three favorite decks I ever played and it was the first deck to get me a national invite

Right around the corner for 6 weeks

Dragon Link bought back and has kept Chaos going in our hearts 😂

38:56 No, the SIDS of yugioh is Shaddoll Invoked Dogmatika Stun. Basically a flip flop between control of Winda stays on board, and stun if she is outed early. Also the single Mechaba negate, and various hand traps. The DPE is recursive destruction and a hell of a comeback top deck.

Chaos Agents had some personal connection with me tbh, it's the last deck that I played competitively before I retire at the start of D. Rulers. Great performance on the deck, MBT!

Idea for a "season 2" of history of yugioh seeing as you can't really do a season 2 like for progression. How about a series exactly like this but following the OCG? it would be very rewarding for both viewers and you and joseph yourselves getting to learn more and play through the history of the other side of the card game. I imagine most viewers know very little of the OCG and its meta throughout the years. Not sure how familiar you guys are with it. You could start from whatever point it starts to diverge from the TCG since i know they're basically the same at the start. Only thing against it is that other people have done videos like that but if you wanted to avoid doing something thats been covered before this series wouldn't exist. I don't think the other history series have this format. And maybe as mini series you guys could do history of duel links and even master duel when that gets older.

@blenderowl6495

2 жыл бұрын

Sangan and Witch one of the few cards that got errated before getting printed in the TCG. That would be crazy

@windinthewillow1871

2 жыл бұрын

What was the Sangan and Witch errata?? Sent to graveyard from anywhere?

@blenderowl6495

2 жыл бұрын

@@windinthewillow1871 Sangan and Witch didn't need need to be on field to trigger when they were first printed in the OCG they can be discarded. There was a very consist Exodia with 3 pot, 3 graceful, 3 sangan and 3 witch. Back then the only hand destruction cards available during that format just morphing jar. Its crazy how vastly different the card pools compared to the tcg when yu-gi-oh first started in the ocg. Exodia being a dominant deck there made konami print all the hand destruction cards like forceful sentry, trap dust shoot and delinquent duo

@windinthewillow1871

2 жыл бұрын

@@blenderowl6495 Oh wow that's pretty interesting

i gotta say, chaos does have 1 last time it comes up. in shaddoll when denko sekka came out, bls and snatch steal was insane....ill never forget as a BA player at the time

29:30. cimo could have just chained pleiades targeting his own tenki, making the mind con absolutely void

Love to see the wheel. Can’t wait to find an era with >5 options again. Sad how rare these formats have been in Yu-Gi-Oh!’s history.

@DoctorFalchion

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you're counting this era as one of those but they did have eight decks, they just chose to split them across two wheels to avoid mirrors & help them actually know how to play the decks.

@furkanekkiz7611

2 жыл бұрын

Diversity doesn't always make a good format though.There can be multiple options in the meta but very few good and interactive match-ups between the decks.

@lilsunny7399

2 жыл бұрын

I mean most of 2019 was 4 decks Thundra, Orcust, Salad, Striker making up the meta with various other more rogue strats popping up here and there like Dinos, Spyral and Prank Kids.

@frankwest5388

2 жыл бұрын

@@furkanekkiz7611 like right now. Where we technically have like 7 viable decks. But they are almost all DPE Scythe and or Halq turbo. It’s a subpar format.

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

We've still got the best ever format ahead of us. H.A.T. No format had ever so much diversity as this one. Besides maybe the early 2016 format.

I played Constellar as a meta call for a huge $1000 cash tournament around this time. I mained triple safe zone and triple cardcar d because it helped keep the hand up because the deck got gassed in long games. I dumpstered Evilswarm all day and took first lol

History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins Cimoooooooo: 41 MBT: 39

Synchro infernity is so awesome I love it

they need to make a special ep where they play the historical 2222 cards deck that create the deck size limit ruling in the game

@Shinde425

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think they can do that without it being irl...wait...that would be dope!

Please do your top 5 meta decks for the month series again

This really takes me back to when I played in this time and game 2 I saw the thunder king and instantly had pain because it was painful dealing with it in constellars and considering the spot Cimo was in, he should have really not made pleiades but made a weaker xyz to force the tkr negate. Losing the fiendish chain honestly just sucked because it forced the tkr getting 2 for 1 instead of getting the tenki for bear next turn.

@LightshaverConstellation

2 жыл бұрын

Pain I just saw the second Tkr and knew where this was going. Tkr was really just that much of a demon in the match up unless you played the br to 1 for 1 it and actually drew it. It's also why constellars would probably be better in the latter formats but at the same time part of it is this build. It really should have really been play tkr itself because even though you can't search under it, your opponent has to deal with or lose and it's arguably the best ns in the game then along with being light. And this build plays significant backrow which is even better for thunder king. More then anything this build in particularly for this time needed some more work imo even though I do see there's a lot right here.

cimoment, when cimo makes pleiades with a lv5 and lv6 (kaus effect isn't until the end of the turn, it's a permanent increase for some reason)

Hmm, reminds me of when oppoents fussed about those monsters being able to normal summon another monster after pot of duality on dueling book in the past.

I feel like Game One Cimo should have bounced his own monster rather than Gorz, with the anticipation that he was going to Torrential. The worst MBT can do from that position without committing more to the board is put Cimo on a 2 turn clock. Which still leaves Cimo more time to build resources and maybe find some outs.

Ahh, we finally reach the archetype known for combatting the Burning Abyss/Shadoll meta

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

You are mistaking Constellar for Stellarknight. They share the same lore but are different archetypes.

@KaitlynFedrick

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaman1331 no I'm referring to Constellars and specifically Tellarknight Constellar Diamond

@pandaman1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@KaitlynFedrick Indeed, that's a Stellarknight monster. So you are actually not talking about Constellar but Stellarknights. Different archetypes with the same lore. Look it up.

@KaitlynFedrick

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaman1331 it is also a Constellar monster. It's literally in the name I'm aware that Tellarknights and Constellars are heavily linked in DT lore, but Tellarknight Constellar Diamond is Constellar monster and not a Satellarknight one (though it is a Tellarknight one)

@1Tenno

2 жыл бұрын

You can literally look up the 2015 meta on yugioh topdecks. It's not even up for debate. It's factual that Stellarknight toped in 2015 against Shaddolls and Burning Abyss and not Cobstellar. The boss monster only has Constellar in it's name because it shares the lore about star "constellations". Look at the alternative summoning condition. It literally states that a stellarknight XYZ monster is required. It's not possible to do it with a Constellar monster. It even has Stellarknight in it's name. That should make it clear enough.

Damn, now I want to see the deck profile video for the Agents deck, sounds hilarious. Does anyone know what video it is?

MBT really said just draw better. Simply top deck Venus and every crazy card in the deck

It's so absolutely baffling to me that Joseph literally read "Unlike conditions, they are card effects, so they can potentially be negated." out loud and they still both went "well someone on the internet who had reason to push for it not being negated said it's not negated, that must be how it works!"

@Dylan-vs6sf

2 жыл бұрын

Its not wrong though. The official response from Konami after YCS Meadowlands in May of 2013 where judges ruled it could be negated was that if the effects aren't negated the moment they are on the field(such as by skill drain) then the effect applies for the rest of the turn no matter what happens to the monster. So technically if they were at the tournament in May 2013, the Veiler would have been legal and stopped the extra normal, but immediately after the tournament Konami would state it doesn't actually work that way. It always couldn't be negated by Veiler in the OCG btw

Man, I really wanted to see that Infernoid deck.

Something interesting with Constellars. Creature Swap sometimes saw use in builds with more copies of Sheratan. Swapping a copy to your opponent while setting up a hand for a big follow up next turn was brutal. Defensive buildscould even get you into positions where you reasonable go T1 Sheratan search Sheratan set 4 -> T2 Sheratan OL 3 COL M7. A disgusting control line for slower control mirrors. Really wish this deck got Sombre before LotTG.

@LightshaverConstellation

2 жыл бұрын

Would have been amazing. I loved constellars to death and did well with them in 2013-2015 but I skipping this whole tcg format to play ocg because no sombre and omega and that would have been massive here. The only real awful match up was mermail or rabbit but the side deck does much work vs mermail and rabbit was doable if you don't open bad/depends on your main deck and who goes first.

heart of the cards carried me my entire 2008-2013 Yu-Gi-Oh career

No more wind up rabbit, no more hornet pops, no more mermail (for a bit) lets roll! Onward and upward!

I remember these decks well, course I always played jank so I was just suffering because of them 😂

tbh im ready for dragon rulers at this point, just because the longer it takes to get to them, the longer we have to wait to then get out of them. might as well rip the bandaid off at this rate.

About Cimo not using the XYZReborn during a certain match. Actual game knowledge! There were no legal targets! People in the comments always point out the misplays so I figure pointing out the opposite would be a nice change of pace.

@Gingercornbread

2 жыл бұрын

We’re there no legal targets because their special summons were negated? I was wondering about that.

@erysecret

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gingercornbread yeah! I missed it myself and thought cimo misplayed but I looked it up and that actually the case. Nice catch by him

i don't comment often. As an all time die hard all time favorite deck Constellar. RIP.

I vote you bring back the auction series

Oh god yeah playing Constellar before Sombre is giga cope, this was ROUGH. I feel like this match really showed why bombs were important in yugioh. Joseph’s deck was playing several bomb cards and Alex’s basically had none, which gave Joseph things to work towards while Constellars didn’t really have an endgame.

@TheShogun100100

2 жыл бұрын

Constellars without sombre is a sad saaad sight to behold. Once you lose the pleiades and enter topdeck mode its game over when the deck you're against has multiple 2500+ drops they can rip as demonstrated by MBT.

7:50 Constellar Pollux is not a condition, it is an unclassified effect.

Ok first off. Why no cyber dragon? Easy bait for trap holes and it can get over T king before you xyz summon. Plus with him and kaus thats a rank 5. But the addition on sombre and omega really made the deck pop.

Why didn't Cimo activate the XYZ Reborn? He had a Pleiades in grave the whole time after it got Raioh'd that could have bounced the Sorc.

@mattr791

2 жыл бұрын

It was not properly summoned

@domonkasshu9149

2 жыл бұрын

Oooo I was just going to be onboard with night wish til you reminded me Pleiades wasn’t properly summoned. Thank you for this. I’m eating my words during the game lol.

You could have activated call or the haunted in response to plaedes and call of the haunted would have bounced back to your hand 🤣🤣🤣

I don't think we've seen a full power infernity deck yet. Are you guys preparing that one? I'm actually not sure how the ban list went for that deck.

Al-Like All. G-makes the sound. Edi-Like Edison. G isn't a vowl so it won't ever sound like the letter.

As much as I still love chaos it always plays second fiddle to a different strategy.

I yelled the second game because Cimo seems to have forgotten one important trap...

@Dylan-vs6sf

2 жыл бұрын

Assuming your talking about XYZ reborn this is more Cimo knowing how negating summons works when it comes to reborn effects

@Smitecrawler

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dylan-vs6sf I mean the situation 26:29 in which he had XYZ Reborn set right after the Rai-Oh negation in Cimos MP1. He could have continued with the XYZ Reborn. Or could have chained it to the MST later in the game.

@Dylan-vs6sf

2 жыл бұрын

@@Smitecrawler Yeah that would have been an illegal play. If the summon gets negated it wasn't properly special summoned and thus is not a valid target

I played inzektor during this time and the only deck I had a problem with was constellars

Wouldn't really say Chaos Agent is mash up of Agent and Chaos Dragons. The deck existed in this form since Tengu Plant format, and had multiple ycs tops in 2012. The only similarities between the two are the chaos monsters

I always love when agents are meta

Great sendoff to Chaos. Rest easy.

Please can we have dragon rulers now

Why did Cimo not use XYZ reborn? He had Pleiades in his graveyard the entire time.

@andrejv.2834

2 жыл бұрын

Both of them had their summon negated so he can't

I really really REALLY hope we get to see Synchro Infernity

aww man I really want to see Infernities, but against dragon ruler... well any deck is going to have a tough time.

When he tried to veiler the Pollux 😂😂