Conscripts vs Gi's Deployed - Same Cost - Red Alert 2
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I love how when the conscripts are going to win, the most famous soundtrack of red alert kicks in.
@Dhamarez_Schnazer
Жыл бұрын
Yup it was Hell March
@chenrayen
10 ай бұрын
pro editing move
For every conscript who dies on our glorious quest. There are a thousand more eager to replace them.
@agielagielando4593
2 жыл бұрын
also cloning vats doesn't included, so the result would be even better.
@rovinharleyjavier5260
2 жыл бұрын
Hail hydraa
@icer1249
2 жыл бұрын
cut off 1 head. 2 more shall take its place
@belgianheskey
2 жыл бұрын
You're right comrade general
@DarkKnight52365
2 жыл бұрын
@@rovinharleyjavier5260 CUT OFF ONE HEAD TWO MORE SHALL TAKE ITS PLACE HAIL HYDRA
3:21 I love how the first gunfire sync with the rock music kicks in.
@memesofpotato1571
2 жыл бұрын
True
If the GI's are not dug in, they'll get massacred. Overall conscripts and GI's are well balanced between eachother, something that cannot be said about those accursed initiates.
@ohlookitisacat7404
2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, Yuri was made to be Overpowered and as accurate to the story mode as possible. Balance wasn't a consideration factor at the time.
@reaperwithnoname
2 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree. Initiates, like GIs, are inferior to their value in Conscripts when standing. It's only in garrisons that Initiates become better than Conscripts, to say nothing of GIs.
@DruzaCardonikc
Жыл бұрын
@@reaperwithnoname 1v1 initiates beat conscripts, but conscripts are are better per dollar.
@burningsinner1132
Жыл бұрын
There is one fun point of balance - conscript is JUST strong enough to survive uncharged prism tower shot, which makes it even more useless than it would be.
@Nukestarmaster
Жыл бұрын
@@ohlookitisacat7404 Eh, Yuri isn't overpowered, he is just _different._ Yes he has some overperforming units, but the allies and soviets do too. If anything, Yuri's much smaller arsenal is incredibly limiting, and his navy is outright bad.
Okay, I can now see why they took the cloning vat away from the Soviets.
@meowistforlife
2 жыл бұрын
No kidding!
@paulrasmussen8953
2 жыл бұрын
Andngave it to yuri
@marxLz
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, cloning vats removes the weaknesses of soviets in their infantry.
@TheManofthecross
2 жыл бұрын
Only in yuri’s revenge this is the case otherwise the cloning vats is a must for them.
@BinhTran-lh8zz
Жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣🤣 Soviet conscripts are useless.
Surprised that people (including myself) love this game even after 2 decades+ and no gaming firm has tried to launch a refurbised version of it with current day graphics
@rowaystarco
Жыл бұрын
it's not that long ago that they did a remaster of CnC and Red Alert 1. So people are speculating that remasters of Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 might come as well.
@szechungmui
Жыл бұрын
The graphics hold up remarkably well; the maps and units are colourful with little clutter
conscripts may have slight advantage on open terrain, as shown in this video, but will only be effective when you train too many of them. Still having to spend your resources for a lot of conscripts is risky, but not to the point of becoming useless.
@sys3248
2 жыл бұрын
It's nearly useless. They're just meat. It's good that they can be used to Garrison buildings.
@Rawkit_Surgeon
2 жыл бұрын
Paratrooper spam is underrated. It's basically free units.
@glacieAardens
Жыл бұрын
If mixed with tanks, conscripts work better than GI due to their mobility and flak armour... but dogs are still the best
@ClamMan1989
Жыл бұрын
How many is too many?
@youravghuman5231
Жыл бұрын
Conscript is better for overall while gi is only good when delployed otherwise it's useless. I would say conscript is offensive and gi is defensive
These vids have taught me to fear conscripts more than anything else in the game, omg..
@Nemophilist850
2 жыл бұрын
>lost all but one engagement
@user-zv6th8fh8v
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nemophilist850 From the point of view of modern military theory, they had no chance to achieve anything. So they did the impossible.
@tonnytn3094
2 жыл бұрын
I passed RA2 for Soviets using conscripts and sometimes mixed with dogs and flack troopers... Almost all missions... on Hard Difficulty... Just making waves of conscripts and send them to enemy postion through attack move. For Aliance same... but it needs not less than 2 barracks because GI training longer... Each time you reach enemy position deploy GIs and they destroy everything around in a blink of eye... but send them not less than 90-100 units
@tonnytn3094
2 жыл бұрын
Economicaly it is effective... Conscripts 30 units = 3000 its cheaper than 2 Appocalypsises but 30 cons kill 2 Appocs easily. With clone device its 60 cons that is more dangerous
@0xVENx0
2 жыл бұрын
i love you my son, you dont have to fear anything anymore
Deployed vanilla GI’s are my favorite unit in the game since I was a kid. Was waiting for this video forever lol
I think it becomes a less fair test of strength when the conscripts start amassing while the GI's have to stay spaced out. It's just a classic example of force concentration. This would be even more one sided if you actually concentrated the GI's effectively rather than nerfing them by keeping them spread.
@RenegadeVile
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to comment. Yo ucan see the wave of conscripts slowly bunch together, meaning more of them are coming into range than before, whereas the GI's just stay stationary and the amount of GIs able to shoot remains unchanged. As soon as the Conscripts reach critical mass, they overwhelm them.
@madensmith7014
Жыл бұрын
@@RenegadeVile The GI's still have a lot of initial advantage due to their range. Mowing them down before they can mass up, though when the conscripts do start to bunch up and don't have to run as much, they start snowballing.
@Lazorlink
Жыл бұрын
This is kind of exactly the point of wave attacks though. A defensive setup, like the GIs have, would not be able to bunch up effectively. This was a good test of strength vs strength
@itzaleaf405
Жыл бұрын
@@madensmith7014 They have the advantage of being dug in and greater range. (Unit to unit, GIs are better in this case) However the conscripts have the "penalty" of attacking but it also means they have the chance to mass up as well... Makes me wonder how this test would go if it was inverted. (Conscripts stand around, while GIs push them instead)
@youravghuman5231
Жыл бұрын
@@itzaleaf405 if gi push without deployed then it's useless
To be fair veteran conscripts are rare and veteran GI are pretty common. So the GI is a good value.
@SinfullyHera
2 ай бұрын
If deployed*
I never understood the thought process behind GIs' death screams 🤣
@Anonymous-ld7je
Жыл бұрын
They tried to make them sound comically American, like how the conscripts sound comically "Russian"
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE.
Who needs Guardian GI and Apocalypse Tank when you have deployed GI .
@awakawiateazrutyialocinadn5207
2 жыл бұрын
Russia: “Attempts to present the decision as containing an element of ‘self-restraint’ are useless." "The fact that the United States, at the head of a group of states, is engaged in a purposeful pumping of weapons into the Kyiv regime is an obvious thing.” - Sergei Ryabkov Better to make a from Soviet (and Yuri) to Allied gameplay even when I would play as the first two themselves...
@e-satan9032
2 жыл бұрын
Against infantry
@lemonacidrounds7293
2 жыл бұрын
Those attacked by Kirov Airship, Siege Chopper, Nighthawk Transport, Floating Disk, Harrier, Black Eagle, Dreadnought, Aircraft Carrier, Boomer or Rockeeter!
@awakawiateazrutyialocinadn5207
2 жыл бұрын
@@lemonacidrounds7293 Plus Cosmonaut aka Lunar Infantry after infiltrating barracks of any factions...
@Marinealver
2 жыл бұрын
Who need anything when you have conscripts and cloning vats?
Im absolutely hooked on these videos
I love you Green Elf. Your videos help depression for real.
i didnt know i needed to see this so badly in my life
If I were a conscript (or a GI) I'd be hanging around at the back thinking "Fck this sht".
Hmm. Interestin. However, it would have been nice to issue constant commands to the conscripts in the back ranks. The GIs have the obvious advantage of being stationary, thus they condense their firepower much better, and that density of firepower holds throughout the battle. Meanwhile, the conscripts get scattered around and focused down as they advance. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you can bring all of them to the frontline
@GreenElf
2 жыл бұрын
good point of view, i can increase their range like in the towers batttle
@wellendowedplatypus9024
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenElf Seems a bit pointless, they would win handily if the only variable you change is increasing their range. The GIs won solely because of their superior range and the initial ranks of conscripts blocking the ones behind them because of their poor range. Though I guess it would be interesting to see how little of a numerical advantage the conscripts would need to win it if both sides had infinite range. I'm guessing around 25%.
@reaperwithnoname
2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, that disadvantage comes naturally with large numbers. If you remove it, it's no longer a valid test. Same reason the ability to be promoted mid-fight is important.
@Skyblade12
Жыл бұрын
Actually incorrect. The conscripts get the advantage of getting to bunch up, bringing more of their firepower to bear at one point at a time. That’s why they could eventually overpower. If the GIs were as tightly grouped, they’d win even more.
I still remember during the alliance final mission, I put 5 GI deployed to defend a place and they are still alive till the end.
3:18 Step 4: Unleash the horde
Nice WW1 simulation.
Was not expecting that at the very end
Dayum I expected these to go differently....I wonder how a 10 vs. 20 would go as in, only 1 line of deployed GIs, their range played a key role here I feel like. Well until the heroic horde was unleashed...haha.
@reaperwithnoname
2 жыл бұрын
2 Conscripts vs 1 deployed GI is conscript win. It's in massed formations like this that GIs win. This is what GIs are for (well, this and outranging base defenses when elite).
@phatxity9948
2 жыл бұрын
U play heroes 4
If I remember my rules.ini file correctly Conscripts also have flak armour as standard so have a little extra defence which certainly seems to come into play more at higher veterancies, of course GIs get wiped when note deployed.
@ninjanerdstudent6937
Жыл бұрын
I loved modifying that ini file for specific maps. I ended making tanks super weak to troll some online players who played my maps. It was hilarious. The good old days.
@cruelangel7737
Ай бұрын
Conscript takes two hits from one prism tower to die.
The GIs have a significantly longer range with no promotions but it looks like the conscripts get promoted faster and improve more as they get promoted which is why they won at higher promotion levels.
Love it
I love how those westwood classic rts games always handled so damm good the pathfinding and also a lot units in game. If you look to other games in the era, they all had either bad path finding or limited build cap.
Level 3 conscripts : A force of nature.
I like how the GIs firing acts as a graphical intensity meter, you can see the incoming "waveform"
A showcase of quality vs quantity - quality winning out in most circumstances.
@Rowrin
2 жыл бұрын
“Quantity has a quality all its own.” ~ Stalin.
@minhducnguyen9276
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this video also comes with the conclusion that quantity will beat quality in large scale and whenever conscripts fight it's ALWAYS a large scale fight and they will ALWAYS come in large number.
@KasumiRINA
Жыл бұрын
@@Rowrin said the guy who lost mot people of any war in human history, forever impoverishing his country to the point it never recovered and collapsed losing a war to Afghanistan... and now his followers and sacrificing their entire male population to take like one street in Marinka.
@woofkaf7724
Жыл бұрын
Т.е. окпавшиеся считаются более качественным юнитом? Давай наоборот проверим. Черные бегут на красных. Даже тут видно, что красные имеют меньше радиус стрельбы. Видимо идёт подавление и они ложатся на землю из-за чего им приходится подползать. В это время они не наносят урон. И черные скорее всего ещё имеют какой-нибудь бонус к защите из-за укреплённой позиции.
Conclusion: Elite Reserves would be broken in base game.
Максимально эпично!
I'd like a remake of this video with different attacking strategies like flanking the G.I's, etc.
I'm not certain, but I think they're being attacked!
@jurgenronaaz4695
2 жыл бұрын
They might also be pinned down, not certain
this is why 3/3/3 upgrades for zergs in SC/2 is VERY important lol
Feels like watching the battle of Stalingrad in COD or sumthin. XD
I think when a unit is promoted, its value is changed too. If conscript is elite, the value is like $700 compare to Elite GI $1400
If you have the clone building, you get twice the conscripts. The actual price equivalent would be 500 GIs to 2,000 conscripts. Not 500 to 1,000
@cityofbhat7722
Жыл бұрын
Soviets don’t have cloning vats in YR.
@dukenukem5592
10 ай бұрын
@@cityofbhat7722 nobody play in YR.
This video is incredible
perfect recreation of world war 2
Bravo
1:08 The last three conscripts could wipe all those G.I if we manually control them, could be a good movie material too lol
@miruuuuuuuu
2 жыл бұрын
NEVER. My GIs kick ass.
@iaminpain8407
2 жыл бұрын
@@miruuuuuuuu *laughs in rhino tank blitzkireg*
@user-cv8xu2yk7m
2 жыл бұрын
@@iaminpain8407 *Laughs in 8 Black Eagles*
@user-cv8xu2yk7m
2 жыл бұрын
@@iaminpain8407 *With Mirage tanks*
@miruuuuuuuu
2 жыл бұрын
@@iaminpain8407 *sobs in unfair crushes*
We serve Glorious Union 🍹😏💯😎🥃 I could play this hold day 😁
Довольнотоки интересно, удачи тебе
I guess what makes GIs good is they deal more damage to vehicles before getting run over
@hell_march6652
2 жыл бұрын
I always edited the ini so troops will move when about to get run over. I always thought it was dumb how they would just stand there in the direct path of the tank and NOT move. I dunno about you. But if I seen any vehicle trying to run me over I am damn well going to try my hardest to get out of the way!!!!!!!!!
This is sparta!
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in mass quantity
@robertstan298
2 жыл бұрын
What a idiotic comment
@octapusxft
2 жыл бұрын
Human History seems to agree with that statement
@johnremcastro
2 жыл бұрын
@@octapusxft You don't have to look back at history. Just watch the news.
@awakawiateazrutyialocinadn5207
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnremcastro 🇯🇵💩🤮👎🏻 🇰🇵🇰🇷🇨🇳🇷🇺🙂👍🏻
Hell Yeah the conscripts win!
That's a nice balance you've got there Would be a shame if someone added an expansion with third faction to off balance both previous ones
conscripts is tough and cheap but got outperformed by other troops but for their low training cost you can train more of them to deal with that disadvantage
Good )
The smell of gunpowder all over the place.
Aahhh dang, the ending could be more epic if conscript make victory pose..
quantity has a quality of its own
Conscript reporting for duty.
👍🏻
The conscripts whole "thing"is success through numbers.
GI and conscripts: attacking!
I miss playing this game
👍👍👍
That's interesting, more soviets, more chance of survival and winning
Gi using machine gun when stay down
"Not a step back"
I completed the entire allied campaign basically with GI spam whenever I could it was the Soviet campaign the really made me think army comps
GI`s are so good at defending their position
Was hoping to see the gis take the attack to the conscripts. With the GIs bunkered down they'll win the majority if the fight
All I could think was "WW1 in a nutshell"
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conscript is used a lot in pro games (not as often as the basic tanks still), GI is rarely used in pro games unless you are playing America (free GI paratrooper).
@MagpieMew
2 жыл бұрын
As it is quite hard to micro
@lukemorgan6166
Жыл бұрын
Who cares about those sweat Lords
Stalingrad human waves colorized
I’ve always had this question. If they’re shooting ppsh weapons. Why do they sound like AKs?
Conscript Ready !
Still find it funny how a single engineer can beat 3 of them in a building
Do conscripts just get higher stat bonuses than the GI's with experience?
a wise elite conscript once said: beware of old men in a line of work where men usually die young
ww1 generals: WRITE THAT DOWN
You should never underestimate deployed GIs!
@wednesdaygaming1
2 жыл бұрын
nope when you facing Yuri with the Gen Mutator
Formation is the factor to affect the rate of survive.
While mediocre in terms of overall damage output, there's only so many conscripts you can kill in the swarm...
Charging conscripts vs. sandbagged machine guns? I think WWI resolved that question pretty definitively.
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Dude you should make it more balanced, like how the GIs march and THEN change to bunker mode because this is kinda unfair how they are just hunkered down and the concripts come in
@richardgaldos6901
Жыл бұрын
But that would ruin the test. The strength of the GI is their boosted stats while in bunker mode. If you deprive them of that stat its not a fair test. I guess he could have done a "Control test" of the GIs attacking and not using their bunker at all but really the question people would be interested is this version.
honestly though, dug in GIs are REALLY STRONG
I should be doing my job right now. But here I am.
Conscript reporting
AK-47s for EVERYONE! Conscripts upgrading from their PPSH smg to AK upon gaining veteran status. meanwhile... GIs sticking to their wall of M60s and sandbags... and not switching to their mobiles (burst fire M16s) meanwhile Navy Seals are waiting outside with their Uzis.
I dont fight conscript like power to power. I use tanks to step them. Theres another way to win efficiently.
ura!comrade!
Soviet WW2 era humab wave tactics. If it works it works. Albeit with huge casualties.
Who als just finds this satisfying
D-DAY in red alert be like:
I know this is because it's a video game. But it's kinda funny they just vanish out of existence after being shot. Like imagine if that's what actually happens in real life. Where people suddenly vanish after being shot.
นี่มันสงครามทหารราบระหว่างAlliedกับSoviet
Как сказал 17 король Рохана Теоден: на смеееерть!
@user-jj2nb1zb6z
Жыл бұрын
СМЕЕЕЕРТЬ!!!
Those gis in a diferent formation could survive
Yeah but those 7% will be scarred for life after witnessing all that death.
0:25 ohho
SHOIGU! GERASIMOV!
Remind me to not sent my conscript into wall of dugged In GI's