7:50 ultimate betrayal

Awesome crossbow review :). Always wondered if I made the right choice by pursuing this unit.

I pretty much always take this unit in my line up for siege because the meta is heavily shifting towards shield and sword and board spam and with the shield breaker perk now working it's one of the few counters when flanking is not an option. Fully leveled and with the rare Xbow doctrine adding 10% rate of fire they are quite effective (but then resupplying bolts becomes a real issue)

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you're getting on well with them, as you say the shield pen is nice for taking out shield units. I like them but given the choice I think I'd still take my prefecture archers, but I think that perhaps just comes to play style

if you get pavese shields as technology for honor they not even wear them -.- but they got a great damage and with "attack a certain area" u can shoot a lot further as they show you with the blue circle

I think I had these in my Warband at some point.

Keep up the good work !! :)

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude :-D

On ranged units u seem to use the F1 formation pretty much all the time, is it just because u want to counter incoming fire? Noticed it in multiple videos, but because i use the Arbalists i saw u use F1 even for gateways while the F2 is better for concentrated fire in these situations(gateway width = F2 formation length, only 3 rows instead of 4)

How much do 2 more men in the unit matter? is it worth getting those from the early levels of lower line?

So Crossbows seem like a mix between archers and muskets. Better damage than archers, less than muskets, better accuracy than muskets, less than archers. Is that right? Also, I was wondering if you could maybe explain what the deal with the horses in this game is. The Horse Seller has 4 Horses. Two cost 10k, two cost 75k. In both price segments, the Bay horse is always superior in every category. The Bay horse has better health and turning speed than the Bay Mare horse, but all other stats are the same. The Purebread Bay also has better health and turning speed, while the other stats are identical to the Purebread Bay Mare. Can you explain what I oversee that justifies to offer us 4 horses out of which two are just worse than their counterpart for the same price? I really dont get it.

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty much spot on, they sort of fill that middle role :-) Yeah the horse mechanics seem pretty messed up, unless there are some hidden stats we can't see then yeah some horses just seem better. I'd expect it'll be something that gets updated in the future

Y love your videos.

when i play this game, i can't move the camera when i am dead. is this a recent patch or so ?

You can increase range on them with further upgrades in unit tree

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I did see the extra range increases, the problem is the range increases are still quite small and it doesn't work to improve accuracy, so I feel the crossbow will always be outraged I'd rather focus on damage output and just try and adjust my play style to use them as a close range high damage unit

@horken7952

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvoLozGaming Yeah i agree, but they shooting like guns in straight line, so if you order them to shoot on max range they always can hit further then max range

Nice game today we had in Hidden castle Ilyaas

Good video, going to try them.

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks :-)

Which xbow unit or skill is the one that keeps stopping my cav charges at them

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed crossbows being able to stop cav, i'd have to double check the two lines but I don't think they get any anti cav ability

@Jij29

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvoLozGaming hmm I've had a few times where they have stopped up to heroic cav... Oh well

They look Okey but at the distance they fight I prefer the musket if I'm that close

crossbows (same goes for muskets -- except higher tier muskets> ) excell if you have at least 1 melee unit nearby to have a buffer... or else its like you say ... they die pretty fast ;) .. nice vid

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah with melee support they do work much better, I do like them as a unit, I just think for now at least I prefer my prefecture archers :-D

@roelven1282

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvoLozGaming lol i cant argue with that ;) .... but i like my fire archers a little more (but i use em more as a close inf cover... lol more like a arque/crossbow unit in fact ;) ) their close quaters fire volley is devastating... even for mid-high tier cav.

What is with that cinematic execution thing you keep doing?

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

That is my poleaxe ultimate ability :)

@TatharNuar

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvoLozGaming Ah, I don't think nodachi gets one like that.

I honestly wouldn't waste time or honor upgrading these units, if i want close ranged damage i'd go for muskets. The pavise crossbowmen are certainly a better pick than any other crossbow.

Did you see my video on reddit of arbalists vs men at arms

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

I did actually yes, was interesting to see the rate of shield pen with the crossbow, certainly makes them useful against shield units. But for me I still prefer the range and tactical flexibility of my prefecture archers

@Eagl3

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvoLozGaming yeah when the preseason patch first came I out I used them like crazy. But I missed the versatility of archers in siege with their range and the ability to shoot in a curve. But recently I switched back and forgot how effective they were at putting out damage against shielded and armored target. I suggest bringing them to territory wars to counter all the higher tier units. Also if you level them up to max and max out honor trees no unit stands a chance against them its pretty insane

Good stuff, seems these arbalists really bring crossbowmen into a class of their own. Seems to me that they are better at burst damage than arquebusiers with their good accuracy for their range and their better aim time. They might shine in a corner peaking game where you bring them around, shoot a volley, and go back into cover. Or just hiding behind a corner waiting for enemies to come out. Real shame they can't reliably fire over castle walls since that is basically what crossbows were for. Maybe they'll add an mount wall option for ranged units

@EvoLozGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think your spot on with burst damage at close range/ ambush situations. In those sort of things they do great and as you say rival or even beat some muskets. I guess the trade off is your losing the flexibility of archers to fire further and over objects, for me whilst I like these crossbow I still prefer the play style of my prefectures

9:10 Why u do dis to me