subboor was savage lol

@azimak75

Жыл бұрын

now he’s a silent killer lol

@timelost7261

Жыл бұрын

​​@@TurinTuramberBeing precise in science is pretty important. If your definition of a word means something entirely different, it doesn't mean the one correcting you is splitting hair it means you're completely and utterly wrong. Also if you're arrogant enough as most atheists are to claim that you know something about a subject that you're totally ignorant of and just repeating words you hear with little to no understanding, then putting you down in such fashion is only appropriate.

@TurinTuramber

Жыл бұрын

@@timelost7261 This isn't science, this is two men yelling at eachother in the street. Darwinism is irrefutable fact and the Qur'an is just more superstitious nonsense, the man with the beard just found out; no wonder he was so upset.

@timelost7261

Жыл бұрын

@@glawfpv9112 I guess you haven't watched the video.

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

@@timelost7261 what the KZread video that's meant to counter observed behaviour in nature. Yeah I'll pass

this guy still hasn’t evolved…

@UnMisanthropeCynique

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lmfao I literally spit my coffee

@berserkhunter1981

9 күн бұрын

He has a master degree in philosophy. That's all you need to know about his intelligence.

@Hexa_radiate

5 күн бұрын

​@@berserkhunter1981utilize your philosophy when writing stories

@berserkhunter1981

5 күн бұрын

@@Hexa_radiate you don't need to go to university to get a master degree in philosophy

@Hexa_radiate

5 күн бұрын

@@berserkhunter1981 So, what's your point ?

Loudest people are often the most ignorant.

Random mutations are still mutations dude... How much did you smoke?

@pollo-of-space

Жыл бұрын

He smoked a few pages of his Quran or some shit and now he's mad asf lmao

@peanutbutterfly5611

Күн бұрын

Shame🤬​@@pollo-of-space

@gnas1897

10 сағат бұрын

No but they have to be random mutations. The idea that mutations aren't random but rather influenced by the environment is a Lamarckian idea.

"I am someone who get angry often". I dont think I have seen a single clip where this man doesnt scream in anger

@aziz390

Жыл бұрын

he doesn't scream in anger, that's just how it is in speaker's corner. you have to not just have good evidence but you have to assert dominance in a debate in that place

@TheAndnor

Жыл бұрын

@@aziz390 then why doesnt the other person scream? Screaming like he does is often a sign that he doesnt have evidence or good arguments, so he says it loudley.

@uraharasshop3547

Жыл бұрын

He was angry because the guy in the hat was harassing Muslims the week prior using terms they didn’t understand (neither he did) to confuse them

@TheAndnor

Жыл бұрын

@@uraharasshop3547 in that case, I can understand. But he is always so angry. Most people like him are.

@funkdoubt1

Жыл бұрын

He’s ‘ a true muslim ‘ lmao I hope thisnew youtube strand of Islam is NOT representative of the broader order, as these guys suck.feigned intellect. Staged empathy. Rudeness and arrogance, quite the spectacle! Shout, bully, insult, aggress, repeat, undermine job done. Embarrassing to us all

A random mutation is still a mutation. So while he might not have been precise enough he was correct.

@universe9175

Жыл бұрын

@@WildPrimal23 Actually you forget (natural selection) so its not (coincidence).....even random mutation is not (coincidence)😃

@universe9175

Жыл бұрын

@@WildPrimal23 They are just random....and thats how they are....its not in my hand to change the facts😅

@universe9175

Жыл бұрын

@@WildPrimal23 Am not english speaker so if i was mistake in something am sorry What am trying to say.....mutations mostly are random

@kolomvosable

Жыл бұрын

​​@@WildPrimal23 It's the mutations that are random, natural selection isn't. Not sure I understand your question though 🤔 A mutation might happen for a variety of reasons and it may or may not affect the organism. In any case, mutations create variation in a population, which could then possibly lead to evolution.

@WildPrimal23

Жыл бұрын

@@kolomvosable this was the explanation I was looking for. I understand now. Thanks!

Fair play to that guy for being so calm while this guy threw a temper tantrum

@Ahmed.4411

Жыл бұрын

Yeah everyone is calm when they lose an argument

@deadlypop3799

Жыл бұрын

@@Ahmed.4411 that has never been true lol

@tozrimondher4250

Жыл бұрын

at least he didn’t look stupid

@Ahmed.4411

Жыл бұрын

@@deadlypop3799 what I mean by that is they have no response.

@markcastro9622

Жыл бұрын

@@Ahmed.4411 He missed one word out, he got the basic premise but Donny decided to throw a temper tantrum 😂

The guy was reasonably correct. The other guy was just shouting until the first guy gave up trying to argue a meaningless point

@Mruninteresting

Жыл бұрын

not really, "mutation" implies that the changes in nucleotide sequences have a pattern. which is not what darwin was arguing.

@benjaminmcallen6245

Жыл бұрын

@@Mruninteresting not colloquially. It just meant that mutation occur, which happens in either case.

If I shout loud enough, I'm bound to be right

@billkellyhornswoggletheGreat

Жыл бұрын

That's a standard!

Learn civil discourse. I am a Muslim but wtf are these lot doing just shouting and speaking over them. Have some respect. They will take this and clip it and paint it as Muslims not having any grace

@aas529

Жыл бұрын

That's how the hater play. Framing muslim.

@SyahidanIbnMokhtar

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter if it's intentional or not, but you yourself are cussing when trying to correct others, on matter less than yours. Fix yourself amidst advising others, don't be ironical by you being lesser civil than the person you claim to be less civil. And get the context first, and deal with it from there instead of playing iblees's advocate whilst pleasing the kufar.

@MasterShadow.

Жыл бұрын

Talks about respect and goes on to say wtf, the hypocrisy man.

@Meowww12760

Жыл бұрын

It's positive vibes. I'm loving it... You kill atheism with loud 🔊📢 logics

@tbug50

Жыл бұрын

@@aas529 “framing”? So we’re gonna pretend we didn’t all see this?

I mean, that is Darwinian evolution in very simplistic terms. The idea is that species arise through random mutations, and the ones that make an organism more suited to its environment will allow that organism to survive and propagate their genes. Which is natural selection, the most adaptable species survives.

@dalejrjunior1298

Жыл бұрын

And we have proof. We are getting taller over the years in country's where height is a standard for most women. In country's where height isn't a favored attribute they aren't increasing In height by generation on a noticeable scale

@SH-cs9we

Жыл бұрын

Yea ..like moths over time, the dark colored moths became the more common of the two color forms. Natural selection favored the dark individuals, so they were more successful after the trees changed. But does that mean a Moth changes in to a Bird lol. Or elephant changes in to a man . Or a Monkey to a human ? Micro evolution is fact ..but macro evolution is not a fact its a Fantasy

@SH-cs9we

Жыл бұрын

​@@dalejrjunior1298 Natural selection doesn't mean species transcend form and change to a entirely different species lol If so it would be observed .. all I can see is humans ? ..humans will get darker..lighter taller... but what you won't see happening is humans changing to a different species 🤔 🙄. People that believe otherwise are delusional .

@EddieM1994

Жыл бұрын

@@SH-cs9we Macro evolution occurs due to generations and generations of micro evolution. Look at chimps and bonobos. They were two populations of the same species that became separated from one another during the formation of the Congo River. Over time they differentiated in minor ways, and now they are so different genetically that they are considered different species of ape. You can see it in the Galapagos islands too, which is where Darwin formed his theory.

@muhammadabirhossain7216

Жыл бұрын

If you knew well, Darwinism and this are not the same just like quantum mechanics and classical physics are not the same. But why do we know 🤣

Most sane Muslims

@muslimninja9017

7 күн бұрын

Bro got angry that his atheist buddy got educated😂

@mrmap4875

7 күн бұрын

@@muslimninja9017 ah yes educated by some dude who still shoving 1400 old word to his throat 🤦‍♂️

@americanearthling9671

4 күн бұрын

Actually it was the other guy that was sane. The Muslim doesn’t even understand evolution and gets frustrated by a humble guy who for all practical purposes was still correct

@muslimninja9017

4 күн бұрын

@@americanearthling9671 he has studied evolution on an academic level. Lol what u on about mate?

@americanearthling9671

4 күн бұрын

@@muslimninja9017 clearly he doesn’t understand it. You can lead a horse to the water but you can’t make him drink. Evolution is one of 3 most solid scientific theories. It has been proven time and time again. It’s amazing to me how often theists struggle to understand it. (My knowledge of the subject came after college.) He has an ulterior motive to trying to debunk it. His world view would prove to be false. As I said evolution is a well established and proven scientific theory. His religion is clearly clouding his ability to grasp it

Islam is still mythological

HAHAHAHAHAH That cowboy was right lmaooo Why is this guy so angry and wants to defend his religion so much what is he trying to do??!

@TheKingofTheUniverse.

Жыл бұрын

Natural selection not through out mutation but random mutation. There is the difference

@animegirls3219

Жыл бұрын

Do you even know how different theories work, its like explaining statistics to a toddler

@retrogamingfrenzy2373

Жыл бұрын

The difference of neutral or harmful is not a difference for you? That's same like a teacher angry on a student because of his stupid saying lol

@-_-naab-_-

Жыл бұрын

​@@animegirls3219you are haram, bet you can't even speak or read Arabic and bet you don't pray 5 times a day

@Player-pj9kt

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKingofTheUniverse. Mutations are usually implied to be random

"I dont get angry very often" somehow I dont believe that

Dumbledore spoke calmly.

You can literally debunk all of his conversations by asking him about dinosaurs and ask him to explain them lol

@topgkayani5124

Жыл бұрын

What abt dinasours??? There just giant animals, from a prehistoric time. Exactly like the animals of today

@uthman2281

Жыл бұрын

What is your point?

@funnylawre

Жыл бұрын

​@@topgkayani5124 the Qur'an doesn't have any proof of dinosaurs

@topgkayani5124

Жыл бұрын

@@funnylawre and this means what???

@Player-pj9kt

Жыл бұрын

@@topgkayani5124 Fossil records from dinosaur times indicate transitional species which provides evidence for evolution. Most notable transitional fossil is of the species arcaeopteryx which provides shows that dinosaurs evolve into birds

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

@sheikhrayan9538

Жыл бұрын

Haha I could quote several thousands of influential people who says otherwise

@nihad9054

Жыл бұрын

​@@sheikhrayan9538 same

@felreizmeshinca7459

Жыл бұрын

We have wise & intellectuals that have shaped the 21st century the way it is that are religious. Am not even talking exclusively about Islam but multiple religions.

@Luis-oy3et

Жыл бұрын

That is the best representation of religion I have seen. Given the access to historical sources you would think in the modern day that would be understood. Instead through indoctrination and starting them off when there young, religion is still a popular belief

@rationalmind3785

Жыл бұрын

Who are those wise and what's their reasons? Lucius was a animal who died. We don't care what he said. Don't get offended by word animal because that's what an atheist can believe. You are an animal too and a murderer of several animals

Typical for someone to throw a temper tantrum like that.

Someone should tell him is not teenage mutant Ninja turtle or X-Men😏

@Ripler

Жыл бұрын

This is so childish but it made me laugh so hard smh 😂😂😂

@theparodychannel7842

Жыл бұрын

Its rich ur tlkin of characters in a book to defend ur "jackass of a God"

@issakaismaila5567

Жыл бұрын

@@theparodychannel7842 at least my God can't die like urs🤣

@Toddy15

Жыл бұрын

X-Men would be actually a good read on this because it shows even If you force a mutation (by chemicals or physical Stress, which is acutal science) the result will always be random. Just Like in X-Men where they can not predict who will have what mutation. So yeah mutations are always random. They just happen or If forced still have random results.

@Programm4r

4 ай бұрын

@@Toddy15 No matter what mutation received, humans will never have claws.

You never debate calmly, just screaming to prove the point😂😂😂that's called fear of expose

Angry Primate argues with primate whilst denying being a primate surrounded by like minded primates😂

He just want to win the argument 😂😂

@Cyborg_Lenin

Жыл бұрын

Indeed that dude with a beard is pathetic.

@adamS993

Жыл бұрын

He did more than win, he humiliated the atheist who never showed up to speakers corner after that

@hog7302

Жыл бұрын

@@adamS993 god isn’t real

@adamS993

Жыл бұрын

@@hog7302 he is, don’t be afraid

@retrogamingfrenzy2373

Жыл бұрын

​@@adamS993 no he did it is not humiliating when telling answer to a stupid student same a like stupid answer you get humiliated by the teacher than you got the true answer Don't be sarcastic 🤌¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

People actually think this guy is smart bcz his voice is loud and he’s throwing random hand signs But there’s nothing smart about what he said. He bragged on about what makes him angry. And then corrected the other person which took less than a second So what was he shouting for a whole goddamn minute

Subboor finally got someone who knows as much as him on Evolution

"Natural selection through mutation" "Thats not even Darwinism, its natural selection plus random mutation." :|

I mean you lost your friggin head over him not using the word random, even though it's implicitly implied. Trying to win a debate through sementics and anger is a sure way to lose. What garbage.

@sagebaker6426

Жыл бұрын

Lol it’s speakers corner it’s 100% justified. Imagine how many bozos every minute walk in and spit random bs and just try to argue. If it was a normal setting 100% not justified but knowing the history of speakers corner I totally get it💀

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

@@sagebaker6426 getting angry over semantics is never justified. For anyone reading this remember "don't recommend this channel" is a thing. Don't give this trash more traction.

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

@@sagebaker6426 I'm not angry. If it's place of debate, as the old adage goes, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Science.

@sagebaker6426

Жыл бұрын

@@glawfpv9112 so basically run away if you get angry. That’s is absolutely a cowardice statement. Sorry but humans get angry you don’t even know the full context of the debate yet you sit here watching a short of a longer debate and assuming you know everything. Absolutely ridiculous

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

@@sagebaker6426 if that's your take on what I said, you're a moron. The guy loses his top, that means he loses the debate. You have to keep you cool if you want honest and open discourse to be effective. Sure things can get heated, but this chap literally shouts down his opposition, that doesn't lead to progress..

So this guy won the argument by being pissy and adding the word random to the other guys answer of mutations? The Safari looking guy is right... Evolution isn't all random mutation 🤣

@popkb

Жыл бұрын

then explain it to pro darwinists.

A guy who runs around a rock talking science 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@M60T

Жыл бұрын

​@@kneeger4703not technically fathers but we invented things

@goblinoide

Жыл бұрын

@@kneeger4703Galileo wasn’t a Muslim. Isaac Newton wasn’t a Muslim. Albert Einstein wasn’t a Muslim.

@dmitri970

Жыл бұрын

is funny how atheists claim to know science most of them are overweight porn and drug addict NPCs. What a joke 🙄

@dmitri970

Жыл бұрын

When are you getting your soy latte james?

@jamescastle6297

Жыл бұрын

@Knee Ger 🤣🤣🤣🤣 offcourse they are

The guy came in with full national geographic custom but forgot to bring so knowledge with it

@ItzGENN

Жыл бұрын

Lmao mutations are always random. Shouting will never change the facts. That guy was right

@sammy57533

Жыл бұрын

​@@ItzGENN yes it is random, but the organism with favourable mutation survives and all the other die, so looking at the bigger picture, only favourable mutation gets chosen, it's not chosen at random

Somebody skipped science class 👀

Natural selection and mutations, Of course they're random! Epigenetics is to do with environment and behaviour that can change us on a genetic level and can be passed down to our children, but it is reversable! Autogenesis is a part of evolution that's derived internally without any external interactions! Both have helped humanity evolve into what we are! He's twisting what his opponent meant so he can counter with a weak argument that doesn't actually make any sense! He gets angry over the silliest things because he feels he's "crushed" his opponent, but he didn't! Shouting and getting angry doesn't mean you're right! It only impresses the uneducated around you!

@eivorrudjyek9083

Жыл бұрын

How tf is he wrong , natural selection occurs when in harsh environment the species goes through mutations and the best one survives. He said exactly what u said about epigenetics , the other doesn't even know what Darwinism is. I get ur an atheist but u can't really stand up for stupidity , and most of atheists are stupid are stupid . Only a handful can make statements without bias and I respect them with all my heart(I.e Neil tyson)

@eivorrudjyek9083

Жыл бұрын

@@majortom6262 well I do agree he was a dick about it , but can u gotta agree that most atheists are stupid . Are you really so sure that the majority of atheists aren't tiktokers and gen z horoscope and magic crystal people ? That's why I said I only whole heartedly respect only a handfew people who aren't driven by emotion , and as I find myself taking to atheists , they are quite short tempered and biased.

Why do this people always scream and get angry? Do y'all have nothing else to worrry about in life? Instead of having a discussion about who is right and sho is wrong while nobody knows who is right or wrong.😂

@funnylawre

Жыл бұрын

I mean we do know evolution is right and it has been proven several times already

@-King-Of-Beasts-

11 ай бұрын

​@@funnylawre present your facts that proved evolution

@exmple8

11 ай бұрын

In the end, we are human and our brother is human

@eugenioderose6628

11 ай бұрын

​@@-King-Of-Beasts-science

@-King-Of-Beasts-

11 ай бұрын

@@eugenioderose6628 acience considers it as theory not a fact and your idiotic argument shows how "scientific" you are

Impressive, he said to the guy who had already said that he only has a basic notion of Darwinism that he doesn't know Darwinism. (without proving Darwinism wrong)

Bro said he had a "basic idea, that's it" and then you expect him to know everything about Darwinism

As a muslim myself I can confirm this mf will never argue with a professional biologist

@Programm4r

4 ай бұрын

biologist don't defend Darwinism.

@zigongosaurus5274

3 ай бұрын

​@Programm4r "Darwinism" refers to what Darwin himself proposed and is about a century out of date. The modern theory of evolution is the backbone of biology so I imagine biologists do defend it when eejits like Subhoor come along not even understanding what evolution is.

@Programm4r

3 ай бұрын

@@zigongosaurus5274 modern evolution theory deals with natural selection, variation, developmental biology, etc. You can totally accept synthetic theory and still be a 7 day creationist.

Egotistical narcissism is a prerequisite for immature Islamists.

The Muslim man conveniently forgot to add that evolution is one of the three greatest scientific theories ever.

@jessiehuynh7495

4 күн бұрын

THEORY!!! Once proven we will call it fact.

@CesarClouds

4 күн бұрын

@jessiehuynh7495 Scientific theories are never proven, they are provisional and the highest level of explanation in science, over and above a fact because the latter doesn't explain but the former does.

@lukasm8990

3 күн бұрын

@@jessiehuynh7495you have absolutely 💯 no understanding of scientific theory. Gravity is a scientific theory so is germ theory. Please educate yourself and google scientific theory before you make a fool of yourself again.

@lukasm8990

3 күн бұрын

@@CesarCloudsscientific theories have become proven what are you talking about?

@CesarClouds

2 күн бұрын

@lukasm8990 Scientific theories are never proven in the formal sense i.e. logic proof steps leading deductively to a conclusion. That's only for math and formal logic. Science goes beyond that with empirical confirmation, testing, predictions etcetera. And, like I said, they're provisional and open to falsification. You can call them "proven" but only in the colloquial sense.

Lmao 😂😂 sure the random is important but are we gonna pretend that’s not what he meant😂😂

@ad3l547

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is. You should study basic genetics.

@primecelron6764

Жыл бұрын

@@ad3l547 u just said nothing like an idiot

@fzee990

Жыл бұрын

@@ad3l547 yeah you know a lot about genetics? He did not disproved Darwinism in any way, let add random mutation on the sentence what does it changes?

@willhem69

Жыл бұрын

Yh it’s called being pedantic

@einehrenmann6156

Жыл бұрын

@@fzee990 when is Mutation not random? The way he described it is perfectly good for a basic Understanding of the subject of Evolution

Genetic Mutation: Lamarck Natural Selection: Darwin

If he trying to say that while using X-Men logic then I'd understand 🤣

Arent all mutations random?🤔

The loud shouting of a man as ignorant as he is confident; truly, the blind leading the blind.

I’m Muslim and I like the other guys that do speakers corner, but this guy learned something and was desperate to show off. The other man has respect and all he’s doing is yelling like an idiot

@chadi4578

Жыл бұрын

You are not a muslim. Lier

@flottaflotts

Жыл бұрын

@@chadi4578 my brother, to deny another man’s Islam is the greatest of sins. Pray for forgiveness.

@chadi4578

Жыл бұрын

@@flottaflotts dont even try this nonsense. It doesnt work with muslims. We know each other very well. And no true muslim will take the other side in this case. Subbor was not yelling he was teaching him . I saw all the debate. He was not just yelling. Now let me tell you if you consider yourself a muslim. Does allah tells you to go in the side of the kofars? And defend kofars? And what respect are you talking about if someone is not believing in Allah by arrogance? You say subbor is yelling while he is explaining to him why his darwinian fairy tail is wrong? If you are muslim tell me how many rakkaat are in fatiha ? Just a simple question. Answer

@flottaflotts

Жыл бұрын

@@chadi4578 I’m not defending a kafir, I’m saying this guys just yelling. Being homosexual for Subbor is haram my brother.

@chadi4578

Жыл бұрын

@@flottaflotts i repeat my question how many rakkaa are in fatiha?

This guy yelling here has no fundamental knowledge of biology

The shouty guy is clearly very insecure. Poor guy, hope he gets a hug soon.

@playroid1

Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@emperorxina2914

Жыл бұрын

Allah will hug him 😆

@playroid1

Жыл бұрын

@@emperorxina2914 do doubt... Buddha is dead rotten

@emperorxina2914

Жыл бұрын

@@playroid1 what?

Listening to that guy and his points was lowkey like listening to someone with Alzheimer’s. He’s going on and on repeating the same thing but then goes off into a tangent talking about another thing entirely, but then gets back on topic and contradicts his previous talking points lol. Very entertaining ngl but kinda hard to follow, thank you Dave for making it a tiny bit easier

Someone is excited, maybe at last to show off his new vocabulary but the man did say he had a "basic idea". So that response was overkill, anger!!! How?

@khayyamal9207

Жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the video? Even his "basic understanding" was wrong and if you watched the video you know it's just a snippet of a longer video the atheist clearly did bunch if wrong claims beforehand when you listen to the way suboor is talking Any person with a little bit of brain would be angry when you see arrogant atheist down talk religion and religious people and boast about being scientific while they're in pure ignorance both in regards of religion and science So for the love of god, don't try to defend a dumbass like that, it just makes you look bad

@j.r.r.tolkien8724

Жыл бұрын

That atheist was there to debate. You surely know how arrogant they can be and how they pretend that science is on their side. But this guy showed that he knew absolutely nothing about science; not even the bits that he was using to support his argument. He just follows blindly what he hears. Watch the full debate for context.

@j.r.r.tolkien8724

Жыл бұрын

@@m0nkfish28 There's no such thing as randomness so why should he assume it's random. Don't pretend you know science just because you're atheist. I'm sure if I challenge you intellectually, you'll not stay atheist. You'll start saying you're an agnostic-atheist who has no world view or something equally nonsensical.

@gromxxx

Жыл бұрын

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 gish galloping while throwing bunch of words into the mix then insulting your opponent than shouting like a Arab woman at a funeral is not a debate.

@pikkuporsas

Жыл бұрын

@@m0nkfish28 he is wrong for arguing against Darwin. Just like he would be wrong for arguing against gravity.

Now name a single Muslim country where evolution is taught in schools.

@moredrugsmoreshrugs872

Жыл бұрын

İran

@moredrugsmoreshrugs872

Жыл бұрын

Turkey

@moredrugsmoreshrugs872

Жыл бұрын

Azerbaijan

@mrtaha360

Жыл бұрын

all of them

@khaledhagag1696

Жыл бұрын

all of them but we study it as a theory not as some kind of cult like in the west

“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.” - Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

I’m a biologist. Happy to debate…

@kataminkaitin2844

Жыл бұрын

Don't come here with your credentials to this chimpanzees tea party.

@sammy57533

Жыл бұрын

No one will debate you, they are scared. But for people to read the replies, i will debate you.( I don't believe in Adam and Eve bs) So tell me , was darvin right? Or his theories are just theories and nothing more? Be civil :)

@adam_p99

Жыл бұрын

@@sammy57533 tbh he did get a few things wrong. Pangenesis theory being one. But I’m with you buddy. We can and will destroy any religious rhetoric between the two of us.

@sammy57533

Жыл бұрын

@@adam_p99 i am not a biologist but i damn sure know that human race is not an inbred race of 2 people. The thought of that makes me disgusted. Also people think that evolution "just" happen Like one day people evolved like pokemons and then they were like "Well guess we are humans now, gotta act intelligent" I am with you👊 Let them come if they dare Let them come

@sammy57533

11 ай бұрын

@@Tahazif_TheCool22 yeah bro if i could go, i absolutely would and with fkin evidence reports and papers. Till then i was hoping that if any idiot wants to debate here, it would be hilarious to destroy him/her

As a muslim , evolution is a fact , If you can deny it by a scientific research paper then do it and cut the crap There's no problem to mix between religion and science at the same time You can tolerate with both without yapping about scientifically proven theory We don't know what will happen in the near future.

@VroyShone

11 күн бұрын

Bro i have so much respect for you. Most religion believers just try to disprove science when they have no idea what they're talking about

@akrammahmoud9142

9 күн бұрын

@@VroyShone Mutual respect mate. Yes, I agree. I believe that falsifying and lying to fit with religious ideologies is unethical , I'd rather to be a believer without denying a fact!

Oh yeah let's argue with a random laymen on street about Evolutionary biology. And people actually take this guy seriously

i feel bad for the guy assuming he wasnt a biologist, poor guy got asked a question and he said what he knew

Evolution isn't something you believe in or not, it's a stone cold fact. People always pick weak opposition to make themselves look smart and correct. Tommy Robinson (who I dislike) also uses this method to make himself look good.

An example of an overtalking bully, who is clearly playing the man rather than the subject. Here is a modern book about the subject, jerry coyne why evolution is true. Just words about the subject. No grandstanding, overtalking, finger pointing, personal putdowns, self promotion. Im looking forward to the day when narcs like this can just be walked around, and ignored, until such time i guess one has to push back a bit to highlight the unreasoned.

He is the living proof of Darwinian Evolution 😂

As soon as you lose your cool, you lost the discussion

He wasn’t wrong though. It was obviously implied the mutation is random. He I sent the religious one, what the fuck would he think controlled it?

Voice of Science >>> Shouting of Religions

The mistake here is that Subboor focused on the fact that mutations are "mostly" random (stochastic in nature), BUT if that's all what evolution relies on, then it wouldn't work. If all Subboor knows about evolution is that mutations are random then that only proves he doesn't really understand what he's talking about... why ? Because Natural Selection is NOT random , that's the part he missed. The fact that natural selection is not random is what makes the evolution of complexity (with an increase in fitness through adaptive evolution) possible in the first place. But that's just creationists being creationists, they don't even want to understand.

Dude, stop shouting at them, be civil.

With Aron Ra you aren’t so clever😂

@mujahidhasan118

Жыл бұрын

go watch the full video

@buscandolaverdad9079

Жыл бұрын

@@mujahidhasan118 he only tries to humillate his opponent when he answers correctly. I don’t know why you like him so much, he is like a heroe for many of you

It's so hilarious that they are recording this & uploading to internet themselves for all future generations to see forever🤣🤣🤣

He said natural selection through mutation, and he changes it to natural selection through RANDOM mutation so it sounds more stupid 💀

"Darwinian" evolution - the second you said that you lost all credibility as well. First of all the proposal of Darwin is that evolution is that species change over time, give raise to new species and that they have common ancestor with the mechanism for that being natural selection. The fact that Darwin first proposed a scientific theory to explain evolution, does not mean that thousands of scientists haven't built on it. Quite the opposite, with genetics and modern technology, we can explain evolution more accurately. As mr. Green once said, there are 2 people in this world. People that accept evolution and people that don't understand it. Unfortunately creationist dogmatism makes relatively smart people to look like complete idiots.

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@nihad9054

Жыл бұрын

You literally elaborated what subbor said what Darwinism is, you Didn't even realise you crapp _ed yourself.

@pog519

Жыл бұрын

@@nihad9054 He forgot to mention that evolution is a fact and that the theory of evolution is a scientific theory that explains that fact: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

"I don't get angry often" *proceeds to shout like an idiot for 5 minutes because of one word*

he's attacking someone who didn't claim to know anything. how disgusting.

This bread guy believes in Darwin … but seems he hasn’t evolved yet

Ok so he is freaking out about the fact he didn't say random, even though mutations being random, when talking about natural selection, really goes without saying... These "I showed this stupid atheist" videos are just anoying, why is it on someone without a belief to prove a negative, instead of the ones with having to justify theirs in a logical manner?

Lol yes the word random is sooooo important to this init

@ad3l547

Жыл бұрын

Yes in genetics. Try to study more. I learned that in High School.

@98godofwar

Жыл бұрын

@@ad3l547 anyone with a iq of 10 or above would know when someone uses that phrase the word random is a given. You seemed to remember some little fact from school that everyone and their mums know but have no iq to live in the real world and despite this think you're the smart one educating others. L.M.A.O

@ad3l547

Жыл бұрын

@@98godofwar Of course not. But hey, I'm not gonna hate you for that, an Twitter user is and will be an Twitter user After all

@Alaschafad

Жыл бұрын

​@@ad3l547 A random mutation is still a mutation. So he might have not been specific enough, he was correct.

If you have to tell people you don’t get angry often while you always sound angry on the internet… lol

@u-kneeque

Жыл бұрын

He's passionate. Interacting with 🧠less bots ought to make you 😠 at times.

@walid7084

Жыл бұрын

I mean he's literally outside tho

@_Athanos

Жыл бұрын

​​@@u-kneeque We are literally discussing the veracity of if a talking snake really convinced two naked people to eat an apple that made them ashamed of their nudity, resulting in them being forcefully sent to another plane of existence (makes total sense) where women would have to suffer throughout labor while some guy was walking on water and another one turning poop into bread, and many more stories just as absurd as this one in other religions but yeah sure, we're brainless for even doubting the truthfulness in that

@kaikai-pb7fh

Жыл бұрын

he needs to get a job ..

@mohamedalahmadani5174

Жыл бұрын

@@_Athanos you believe in bestiality and incest, nuff said

He is graduate from madrasha University 😂

'I'm not somebody who gets angry often' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. That was hilarious

Bro the argument was over one word 💀💀💀💀

Actually, both are wrong. A asteroid coming to hit earth doesn't care about your feelings/beliefs. Forsee it or not, it's coming and praying won't save you...sure you'll feel safe in your head that you are religious but who will even know after the earth is destroyed?

@reza_3q

Жыл бұрын

After the earth is destroyed and all people die, there are 2 scenarios. 1. Theres no god, no afterlife, no hell and heaven. The outcome will be : a. Atheist : neutral, no wins no lose b. Believer : neutral, no wins no lose Both zero chance to win. 2. There is God, with afterlife, hell and heaven. The outcome will be : Atheist : guaranteed lose and stays on hell Believer : some probably go to hell for sometime but will go to heaven eventually. Atheist still zero chance to win, and 100% lose. believer have more than zero chance to win, and 100% win after sometime. Conclusion, being a believer is a better position to make, since it has more chances to win. Choosing something that has zero chance to win and 100% chance of losing is an irrational position

@dragonmartijn

Жыл бұрын

@@reza_3q Like there is a scenario one 😂. There were too many saints, miracles, visions, NDE’s, dreams, drugtrips, UFO abductions, nightmares etc. We all were once there and we knew, that is the reality.

@amruz777

Жыл бұрын

​@@reza_3q these are the 2 scenarios which we think are possible to be the outcome with our limited or let's say open mind ,but what if there is a 3rd and a 4th and 5th scenarios and it goes on . The world is beyond which we are thinkin rn .So the 2 scenarios you said have a chance but there can be more scenarios we never know

@reza_3q

Жыл бұрын

@@amruz777 well there are only 2 options, either there is a god or not. You can't have third options. If you think you can, please give us the alternative.

@Cracker_Smacker

5 ай бұрын

​@@reza_3qwhat if you worship wrong god then there so many different god how can you be so sure your god is the right one Athiest diss one more god doesn't make amy different

what an absolute savage, meant in a non flattering sense

Thank Allah I am an ex-muslim

He added in random when the guy clearly implied random mutations. And then he got mad?! 😂

@chadi4578

Жыл бұрын

I saw whole debate. The other guy doesnt know anything. He slapped him more than 10 times.

Muslims few years down the lane "Mohammad was the propounder of the Theory of Evolution and its there in Quran...some mullah interprets some surah...save my word

@beliver9015

Жыл бұрын

Have you read the origin of species.Bro we are not pajeet we read those books.And not shout like hindu nonsense logic

@girishvenky

Жыл бұрын

@@beliver9015 yaa bro read the origin species its good unlike the Quran or Bible or Gita etc

@fark69

Жыл бұрын

I hope not. Typically we do not change our religion to suit modern world

@girishvenky

Жыл бұрын

@@fark69you think you are still in d medieval ages? Using a smart phone right? Not riding Camels??

@masterchief5603

Жыл бұрын

@@girishvenky that's ignoramus mocking.

Dude shouting and yelling about how when people are clearly wrong they resort to shouting and yelling. Then says exactly what the other guy answered.

Good for you, you won against a random dude in the street now try debating a biologist

Bruh so explain how God created everything

One of the best debates I have seen against athiest I would really love to watch a debate between Bro. Suboor and the athiest Aaron

@omarjohn7312

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gp96x8qOkavIcag.html Here you go bro 😊

@rain4279

Жыл бұрын

The problem with most atheists is that they have no qualifications, they talk about things they don't understand. Half of the debat between daniel and aaron, he didn't understand that libaralism includes both the left and the right political sides, but he didn't know that, he just came to learn, at least he just shut up when he was lost, not like most atheist they keep their arrogonce till the end.

The old man was imprecise but much closer to being correct.

if darwinian evolution was wrong, our entire understanding of basic biology would fall apart

Subboor has good critical thinking which vaporises when you put the Quran in front of him. He understands Evolution well but also believes in the Adam story. Wonder how he balances both in his head.

@RonnieMyers777

Жыл бұрын

Flying donkeys must be extinct

shouting doesn't make you smart

Well random variation are generated by mutation. So the calm guy was 100% right.

Reminds me of the conversations I had with my parents when I started learning about evolution, they'd always misunderstand and act like they won a debate. It's been almost ten years since I quit Islam and rejected all of Abrahamic faith, I wish I'd done so sooner.

So the slap was him missing one word?

@AllInOne1110

Жыл бұрын

That missing word made it into another category

@mogliking12345

Жыл бұрын

Yes, one crucial word.

@mabz132

Жыл бұрын

Yes and that was supposed to be his "basic" understanding

@glawfpv9112

Жыл бұрын

Mutation in nature is ALL random, so it's implict in the statement... So f'kin dumb

@nihad9054

Жыл бұрын

​@@m0nkfish28 subbor didn't fail because the man didn't refute him which means he knows he didn't know lol.

This.... is kinda catching people on Semantics? Screaming at people until they give up is kinda shitty. A reasonable conversation needs to be had to try and convince one side.

I feel it. It's just like teaching a sixth grade school student about easy plus and minus math but he still got it wrong.

@ow7398

Жыл бұрын

It's like saying "what does it mean to multiply a number by three?" "add a number three times" And then this guy screams "no its adding the SAME number three times!" as if that wasn't already implied in the answer

I like how he did absolutely nothing to disprove evolution and just said that the word he used was wrong.

Just because the shouting guy said an extra word doesn't mean that he is right. I could say "i'm having a cake for my birthday" or "I'm having a chocolate cake for my birthday". Both are right.

Epigenetics isn’t random mutations lol. It is preventing certain genes to be expressed, but no codon is changed, guy is just getting pissed off that he has no idea how anything works biologically

The white guy explained Darwinism though?

He must feel wonderful for being all knowing.

@deenszxking6818

Жыл бұрын

because he study in it.

@jannatul5208

Жыл бұрын

They were having a debate, so ofcourse.

@remakw4338

Жыл бұрын

Imran has wasted his time with this empty man

@iveseen1

Жыл бұрын

@@remakw4338 Empty men are those who follow blindly with no enquiry, reason ,criticism and freethought .

@CarthaginianCow

Жыл бұрын

@@remakw4338 you’ve wasted more time mindlessly agreeing to everything that this aggressive arrogant man says just because of his stated religion. Least the other guy actually tried to formulate his own opinions. Yours are prescribed to you

Him: I don’t get angry often Also him: proceeds to scream out on every such argument and not let the other guy speak 😂

Out of context, the guy didn’t suggest mutation is directional. If I have learnt anything from my biotechnology degree, the word mutation itself implies randomness.