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Yeah, let's charge people the cost of the part alone. That way I make no money, and you get to be happy.

@StriderAngel496

6 жыл бұрын

and she also gets to make bullshit bait hidden camera shows xDDD. EVERYBODY wins.. right? Right guys?

@Warfarer1337

6 жыл бұрын

:hey its the ram fault. no problem i just exchange it for 25 dollar. you dont have pay me for my 2 years in overpriced college and transportation. Nah i wont recommend you buy anything either for your pos.

@user-ul5gi9yw9t

6 жыл бұрын

Well I’m at it, may as well forget about the call out charge I’m having a bloody good time changing this RAM for you

@zvisger

6 жыл бұрын

Thats what I was getting furious about. There is no consideration of the fact that the person doing the repair needs to make money! Yes a diagnostics fee should cost $50 because you had to have someone come out and fix a problem you would never have fixed yourself.

@glencoco1462

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Not the full truth here. For a RAM replacement...same part price ranges considerably and it depends on when you bought the part so if they (company) bought the part 2 years ago and is sitting in their inventory...that part could very well have cost $120 versus the $25 they claim now and probably is however...the company will charge what THEY paid for not what it is worth now and let's not forget they have to mark it up because that is how business works ..u dnt sell a part for the same price you paid for.... unless u dont want ur business to succeed. Another fact about ram...u should always have matching ram modules for ideal optimization so if a 1gb ram module failed and the other 1gb ram is working..after a certain amount of time manufacturers stop making 1gb and you may only be able to find a 2gb or 4gb...if that is the case u will and should replace BOTH modules so they match and then charge your hourly rate plus one-way travel. Ram replacement shouldnt take longer than 30 minutes or less..all this said and done i would articulate all of this to the client

I worked in a computer shop 20 years ago. I made a very good job selling all used parts for people with not a lot of money. Everybody was happy : the manager lowering his stock, the consumer being repaired for a bargain. I know a story of a technician in another shop : after crawling the xxx photos on one of his customers, he found photos of his wife witht the customer. Finished in a divorce and he also got fired because he broke the front teeth of the customer.

We have a local computer store which loved telling customers their hard drive was faulty, They'd charge $300 for a new drive which was worth $150 and then sell the used drive to someone else. The problem was they "forgot" to format the old drives and one farmer noticed he had emails on his "New" drive belonging to a friend. The same business told a customer her computer was dead and tried to sell her a new system, including the monitor. She brought the computer to me and after re-seating the power supply cable it worked perfectly. A $1,000 computer, if she traded it in on a new one was quoted as worth just $100. The same business scammed me when I purchased the first CDROM in town. I found out after paying $999 for the new drive that it was supposed to come with 3 free games. I went back to the store and there were my 3 games in their shelves costing $99 each. They refused to give them to me so they ended up getting an extra $297 for my disks. They are still in business and no doubt still scamming innocent customers.

He tells them they have to send it to "The Room" to recover the data. Then proceeds to recover the data onto his laptop.

These reporters are so ignorant. Really, anything related to computers that people are involved it makes you a nerd?

@Wruff

7 жыл бұрын

also this is form 2006 so

@kalijasin

7 жыл бұрын

They're obviously not certified techs.

@Fkleppe

7 жыл бұрын

goo.gl/nz0nga

@cortz33

7 жыл бұрын

From the video description, it was on 2006, so during that time not many people were savvy on computers like now. I don't believe smartphones were out yet, I'm talking about the androids. People know that I love computers and their questions are out of scope. Questions that are meant for engineers, programmers, and scientist. I know how to use it not what exactly is happening now.

@wmtrader

7 жыл бұрын

" it was on 2006, so during that time not many people were savvy on computers like now" Seriously!? Let's not forget that home computers where first introduced in the late 1970s and took on mass adoption in the mid 1990s.

Umm, how do they expect the technician to make money when they cannot put a markup on their parts? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You cannot run a service business without a markup on parts. Hourly rates alone would be so high that nobody would pay them. "He charged $35 for RAM that only costs half that on Newegg!" No shit, Sherlock. Hello? They had to order that ram with their money at a price about the same, pay the inventory guy to keep track of it, keep it in stock so that YOU don't have to order it on Newegg, AND dispatch the correct RAM with the technician. Hmm... but I think they should not charge a markup, says a bunch of overpaid government employees.

@TortureBot

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I mean do they really expect the cost of the ram to be the same as what the computer techs could find it for online? They were probably surfing a site like Newegg or something and pulled up one of the best prices on a particular stick of ram with the same capacity as the guy wanted to sell for $35. I know this video is a few years old and I think one of the desktops being worked on still had ribbon cables in it so that is probably before SATA drives, unless my tiny phone screen was too small and I didn't see that correctly. They are going to charge a little more than what you can buy the RAM for online, probably retail or a little higher and they have to put money in their pockets for their time driving to the location and at least a partial hour's diagnostic pay. I thought the guy gave a reasonable deal that charged $35 for the ram. Now the guy who wanted to send the unit to a clean room needs his head examined, and he probably was trying to line his pockets for the entire month from that one customer.

@IsaiahClemmons

6 жыл бұрын

no shit i mean some of them sure were rip offs but i stopped the video after doctor dave too im like what did he do wrong. he has the part on hand its a upgrade and your computer will be working right then whats the issue? i guess people are supposed to work for free.

@ivisyung3088

5 жыл бұрын

actualy no. they prolly get tonnes of OEM ram chips for dirt cheap.

@Harry_Hyman

5 жыл бұрын

I'm aware it's two years ago but I think it's fair enough for them to say that, they make their money from the labour; no need to *double* the price of the part

The Indian tech "there is a bunch of viruses and malware and has corrupted the windows system" lol, sounds like he worked at one of those "Microsoft scam call centres" in the past

@StriderAngel496

6 жыл бұрын

it was a perfectly reasonable diagnosis for a damaged OS

@TemperatureHot

6 жыл бұрын

sup2320 "wirus"

@TruAnRksT

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like those "Microsoft Alert" popups that were going around for a while. Your browser has been locked. LOL what a bunch of shit. But sometimes when you killed the browser to get rid of it, the browser would just reload the scam page because it was just doing what it was supposed to when terminated unceremoniously. You could put these links into blocked items but one little change in the actual URL and it was back again. These use java script to fuck your browser over but otherwise are not a real threat.

What the hell is up with the prices that the reporter thinks the repair should cost. Way to low

@ivisyung3088

5 жыл бұрын

these are big companies. repair shops normally bulk buy computer components which is cheaper than Newegg

Reminds me of the worst thing I saw done in PC upgrades. My great aunt once asked for a second harddrive for her desktop. Years later I found out that instead of installing a new drive they split the old one into two partitions. That was just scamming an old lady. Too bad we never found out who did that.

This video makes me sick. I spent COUNTLESS coffee fueled, sleep deprived days when I was studying for my A+ exam, making sure I learned how to properly diagnose and repair systems. I take tremendous pride in providing honest, accurate and friendly service to my customers! When I see "techs" represent our industry in this manner, I get very angry because it hurts the credibility of us all. I dedicated countless hours and significant financial resources to get myself into the tech industry, as have many others. It is an insult to all of us who take our roles, jobs and responsibilities seriously when someone takes a shit on our business as these individuals have. Please, if you are in the computer repair business, no matter if your an employee for a corporation like best buy, or if you're a business owner, remember that the work you do will impact the credibility of everyone else in the business and therefore our livelihood! Be honest and upfront with customers as it will only result in more business, and if the problem is simple and fixed right away at no cost to your business (aside from the 5-10 minutes to solve it), then don't charge them. You will be repaid with their satisfaction and referral to other potential customers (and probably/usually a tip for your kindness and honesty)! True story on that last note: I had a very kind elderly gentleman bring in a pc with a loose sata connection back in February. I quickly solved the problem free of charge, and he has brought me coffee just about every morning ever since! That's something that I personally find far more rewarding than a quick buck for 5 minutes of my time!

If the hard drive was dead the computer would still boot up unless it was shorting it some way.

@ivisyung3088

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, the furthest it can boot is to the Bios. If the first tech actually booted to bios then he would have noticed that the BIOS did not detect the Ram, which is the cause of the ram cause if its the mobo thats done for, then the whole thing wont even boot

@deank7327

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivisyung3088 You are half right. If you have two dimms and one is dead, you would see only half the memory in BIOS, sometimes. Other times it will simply not POST. In which case you need to narrow it down. The first step is to disconnect components and peripherals not needed to POST and then checking and reseating connections. The next step is memory. With multiple dimms that means removing one and seeing if it will POST, then swapping and then changing slots and trying again. If it's a single dimm, you simply reseat it, then you will need to replace it with a known good dimm and try to POST. Failing this, it comes down to CPU, Motherboard and PSU. This all gets a bit harder to do in the field and is better diagnosed on the bench but not impossible.

In all fairness, the guy coming to fix the PC is looking at a PC he thinks just dropped dead.. not one that had a RAM stick put in that's missing contacts.

@gerble36

6 жыл бұрын

While you are right, they likely would not have noticed the ram was missing parts, it is no excuse not to test the ram directly. It's a pretty obvious problem spot and so easy to test. Anyone who is qualified to repair computers ( ie A+ etc), would have figured out the problem easily. Anyone who was a computer enthusiast, even without A+ and such also would have figured out the problem. Heck, anyone with common sense and a basic understanding of basic troubleshooting would have figured out this problem. Computers are not actually that hard to work with.

@StriderAngel496

6 жыл бұрын

oh come on... A+ this, A+ that ... i don't have an A+ and could still track down most of those "problems" .... you just need half a working brain and pretty much common sense... computers are pretty helpful at guiding you towards the problem if you just work with them (unless it's some obscure, rare software problem or hardware conflict but those don't happen very often)

@jklinders

6 жыл бұрын

So what stopped the tech from firing the PC up? A bad RAM stick should have given a BIOS beep code that would have told him, EXACTLY what was wrong. Good grief, use your brain.

@Nebula735

6 жыл бұрын

Me thinks this whole thing was staged for corporations to kill the "fix it" attitude of americans at the time. Well they succeeded... Now it's just buy a new one mentality.

@jklinders

6 жыл бұрын

Unlikely on two counts. One this is not an American broadcast. It's Canadian. The likelihood of this being shown in the US outside of KZread is very nebulous. The second reason is, unfortunately, many computer repair types, especially the big box store based ones are built around fleecing consumers who do not know better. My takeaway from this is the exact opposite of what you think it is Nebula7. It makes me want more to do all of my own work so as not to be ripped off.

Some parts of this video are unfair to honest businesses; the main thing I noticed is that a standard bench fee to fix a quick problem is considered unfair to consumers by some. Sorry folks, but knowledge costs money for us to have in the first place (paying for the proper knowledge is part of what makes a technician reputable), and it takes money to keep the lights on. A minimum bench fee of $50 is quite fair for at least two reasons: 1) You go home with a working computer, and 2) The shop charging you $50 is the HONEST shop that prevented you from getting ripped off by someone else. Not charging a fee for your time and knowledge is the mark of an amateur who has little confidence in his abilities, and even less experience in the real world of business. Professional, independent technician of 45 years speaking. There's only one way to do it right, and that is to do it right - and charge a fee that is fair to both parties and reflects inflation and market trends.

Anyone noticed the tech's comment at 3:56 "Before it blew up"?.This seems like they purposely misdirected him to come to the wrong conclusion...But even if that's the case,they really showed only about 20 seconds of this guy so we dont know what he did.And we must also trust that the whole thing isn't staged...It's just too much.

One problem with this report us the guy is quoting wholesale ram after the fact.

@vorkev1

8 жыл бұрын

+Carter Baker this video is old and ben reposted look at the screen its a windows xp system and the ram stick was 256mb the one guy that was expensive was replaceing with a 1gb stick at that time it was abought the right price they showed in the video 1 thing most people do not understand is a common thing to do instead of charging a hourly rate it to charge retail price for a item then double it . the people in this video just do not understand the cost of things say a memory stick was $50 well the driver has to cover his time to come out install it the cost of the stick of ram the cost of now not having it so he has to take time to reorder the cost of his gas and the cost of him to own and run a business double the price is very fair since he probley only made $20

@thepoliticalstartrek

8 жыл бұрын

I tried that pay model for a couple years. I just ended up explaining the bill. So with ram swap out just charged half on service call and full price if the machine wss buried. Pricing in my opinion should never exceed a 40% mark up on hardware. Ram is hard to second guess pricing. Several times I have seen 100% spike in cost. It has over the past 5 years gotten better. I had few quotes I had to rework due to the massive hard drive spike from a few years ago when the Asian plsnt was flooded.

@vorkev1

8 жыл бұрын

Carter Baker my self I no longer do repairs under a business and I no longer charge tax or sign contracts I just charge them for the part and tell them how long it took and tell them you can pay me what you think I feel is fair that way they are happy o make money and I have no overhead. in fact I just recently repaired a laptop for a lady that took no time I just reinstalled windows it was loaded with crap and she wanted a fresh install anywise told her how to do it she preferred to pay me $20 to do it so I did. and a week later I hade a friend of her ask me to look at a pc she got from someone it was a windows 7 system free 10 upgrade loaded with ram all that was rong she did not no the password she was given it I told her it would take a little time she asked if I would fix it at her house I sed sure that's fine could not crack the password so I sed I have to go get some software to crack the password I spent like 15 min trying to crack it she told me well it took you 20 min and I did not expect you to have to was that much time on something so old I do not need it any was I have several computers that work instead of me paying you would you like to have it I sed sure and have not ben using it for a week it works great and even better a few days latter she upgraded her computer to a new hard drive and gave me the old one.only question I hade was if she new how to replace a hard drive how come she did not just reinstall windows and wipe the password.

@thepoliticalstartrek

8 жыл бұрын

I do mainly MSP work now. So out of warranty replace is my motto. It was very hard going from breakfix to corporate MSP.

@thepoliticalstartrek

8 жыл бұрын

I still build gaming systems for people.

Makes techs look bad.

@jklinders

6 жыл бұрын

Let's be fair. Those techs deserved to look bad. Most of the ones at the big box stores are complicit in all manner of scams. The smaller shops should be evaluated before you darken their doors as they can be inconsistent.

I think it would be cost effective for those service people to first assess the situation like weather it is a hardware problem or a software problem before dispatching the right personal to the job. I would first ask at least - weather the computer turns on at all. And then, most important of all - no outside technician should open a part that is covered by a warranty at the time. Seems none of them ask that question before going ahead to work on it.

I'm in a disagreement when it comes to call out/diagnostics fees . When something genuinely only takes 5 seconds to diagnose, yes, it's not worth charging, but if you're on a call out to somewhere that takes 5 seconds. Then you should charge. Especially if you're self employed. Otherwise yo umake no business. Or if you don't charge then leave a few business cards.

35 for ram was totally reasonable. what a shit show. even 120 for the 65$ ram was high but not criminal. dude comes with the ram to your house

@mumulove

7 жыл бұрын

What should a vendor do then? Wait for a great deal on fatwallet, load up on ram and then pass the savings on to customers at cost? Dont ever run a business, idiot.

$2,000 to fix a computer? Are you kidding me? Nothing on a computer cost that much to fix. NOT even a high end video card like a gammer would have or new motherboard with cpu and ram.

@louistournas120

6 жыл бұрын

+Jason C.: That's not for a "repair". It is for data recovery when the HDD is totally dead.

@rolandofont5438

5 жыл бұрын

if you need real hardriv e recovrer it quite expensive try putting your data in a cloud storage company with good reputation , also back up data have a slave drive duplicsting data , backing up your files if you cant install second drive get a tech its worth the effort.

In my experience, RAM problems can be really hard to diagnose if the computer isn't working. Not sure this is a great test.

He's right about data recovery fees. If the hard drive is messed, they might actually have to take the hard drive apart in a sterile room.

Every profession has its "snakes". The worst are the ones that compromise their integrity by working for a bad organization or the born criminals. Always get a free diagnostic and if you have the time get a second opinion. If both are honest, give the first one the job, thank the second and try to get him some business by relating your story. It all goes back to "The Golden Rule".

$25 RAM part? Blown RAM? WTF?! So many things wrong with this video.

@dfn03

6 жыл бұрын

Bansaku This video is from 2007

OMG, the WORST case scenario: "They'll charge you for backing up your data and re-installing your system"... So customer data is something you should back up for free? And what is the cure for a virus or corrupted file system you say.. Yes, it's the same thing. Re-install windows... BTW, ALL YOUR DATA is gone. Have a nice day. So now it's 2017 and all actual tech support people I know are out of a job... In 2006 this was the level of people offering services. So where is the disconnect for the actual people who know what they are doing and these "computer know-how course drop outs" ?

@austinpatton96

6 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was thinking if system are corrupted or missing its most likely a virus and about the ram why not check for beep codes

@draggy76

6 жыл бұрын

@Andron MacBeton you wanna try gettin down from that high horse of yours? And most people in America* Could install computer parts.... because fuck me Ive no idea how you install an entire computer.... maybe a server or something but still. Most people who use/work with a computer and who are smart enough can install computer parts/systems better then most. Don't blame an entire nation just because we have a bunch of retards and gullible people who fall for em Ok? Alright :)

@vidzpit8264

6 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, if you knew they were a bunch of whiney consumer sjw's that purposely broke their computer, then simply replacing the missing system files would fix it, but they didn't disclose that it was a defamation campaign so yes, you should check for viruses and check hhd health as they would be the likely cause. just reinstalling your customers computer and to hell with there data is piss poor and those are the people they chose to benchmark the rest's performance. the other little ones I would have probably fixed for free but that doesn't mean I should, I spent a lot of money and even more time learning the skills I have that would allow me to diagnose and fix thoes problem in 2 secs why should they do it for free. their knowledge had you fixed up and out the door in seconds the time they save you alone is worth paying for add the fact that is a business, they charge for things which is how they pay to keep that door open that you walk through to get that super fast service your complaining about. they are not entitled to a dumbass discount. that guy in the red shirt was a con artist but the rest of this is a total load of crap. forgive my rant, as you can probably tell from my name Im a IT guy and this video is deplorable

@junglegr00ve46

6 жыл бұрын

The issue is that you can do a system reload using the recovery media and replace the missing/corrupt file without needing to factory reset the entire machine and lose all that data. So the company was saying that she must back up the data, which is a charge, and that she must reinstall the entire OS, which is a charge for the disc, and the hours separately. When all she needs is just the disc to replace missing files

@jklinders

6 жыл бұрын

Defamation campaign lol. If they knew how to do their work or at least do it honestly there would have been no "defamation." That corrupt memory module is diagnosable through listening to the goddamn BIOS beep code. You don't even need diagnostic software for that. Corrupt data on a hard drive does not automatically mean a virus. That is straight out Bullshit. BAcking up data before a reinstall should be a fee but since you are not staring at the comupter for the time it takes to transfer, I doubt it's worth the 60.00 or more an hour to do it. After all there are other machines that can be servoced during that downtime. The overwhelming preponderance of computer techs are either crooks or incompetent. I count myself very lucky when I run across the rare honest one.

This is why I would never work in PC repair. I am fully capable of helping people fix PCs, but the industry is too toxic, and too money focused.

What is the bare minimum you should pay for someone to come to your house. Not taking into account any skill set? An average visit can be 2 hours from beginning to end. What is that worth to you?

@JuggaloSupreme

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is not that they are skilled and wanting to get paid for it, the problem is that they didn't help the customer with the problem they actually had and expected to get paid for it.

@JuggaloSupreme

4 жыл бұрын

@Scott Seufert - Except that at least one vendor DID promise resolution. I have no problem with diagnostic fees. I pay them when I need to, especially because most places will apply that amount to your repair. The problem is that sometimes people are being charged by people who don't have the expertise that they claim they have. I'm sorry you misread my comment. I never said people should not get paid for their time. What I was saying is that people should know what they are doing. Especially if they give promises and guarantees.

Copying customer data to personal storage is a huge no no. It should be a basic work ethic in all IT fields.

A re-image is not always necessary for missing or corrupt system files. Chances are, if you run the SFC tool in an elevated cmd prompt then Windows will restore any missing or corrupt system files without having to re-image and then backup and restore local files. - Level 3 support at HP Enterprise.

You should expect to pay a minimum for ANY time that a tech spends working on your pc

i think the room he is referring to is like a company that recovers data from broken hard drives

As someone that is learning the repair side of PC's and the business, this is concerning. These people are to be held to a standard and certain level of trust. Even if these are higher volume companies, it makes the independent techs look incompetent. All in all, if you're doing the job right and in an honest fashion, you won't have anything to worry about. When you lose respect for the technology and of being truthful and equitable for the sake of a profit or revenue boost, it's time to find a new career.

they like car mechanics , you have short oil they say you need entire exhaust change

Honestly the Geek Squad I visit has always been beyond helpful in helping me fix my computer for a good price.

@thetwistedsamurai

6 жыл бұрын

I will say that they do push Antivirus pretty hard. But the ones they provide are great and at a slightly better price than you'd get online.

Well here is a personal story, I do not run a business in fact I am a retired EMS paramedic who had to retire after a spinal injury, I used to build my own PC's for myself and my kids, family members and friends etc. You soon get known and people ask "could you look at this?" etc. Here in the UK we had a company called PC World, part of the 'Curry's/Dixon' group. I had a neighbour whose Son's PC would run (gaming mainly) and after a few minutes would shut down. She took it to PC world, who told her she needed a New Motherboard; cost including Labour was £300+. Now most of 'us amateurs' would get a history, i.e. shuts down after use, What type of Use? were you browsing the net, writing an essay or something high demand like intensive gaming! and Most, would come to the conclusion I did, which was 'Overheating' the PC getting hot from the hard work it was doing and because for whatever reason it was failing to be cooled, Shuts down! This is generally a built in safety feature to save your hardware from irreparable damage. So I booted into the BIOS and checked the CPU temperature and sure enough it was getting hotter by the second until 'Click' it switched it's self off, further visual inspection showed a very slow CPU fan with the heat-sink clogged with dust! I took off the heat-sink/fan assembly only to be confronted with very poorly applied thermal compound too! I used to keep a small supply of parts, new and second hand stuff from my old builds etc and said to my neighbour that as the part was so cheap ( AKASA socket AMD 2/3 heat-sink/fan costing, if, memory serves me correctly, no more than £6.50. I could have put in a used one, her's was not any good as the fan motor barely turned the blades and being that buying a suitable fan alone to sit on the existing heat-sink was almost as much as a new unit, plus the new packaged unit had thermal paste ready applied. Anyway, I put in the new heat-sink/fan (literally 5 minutes work) and didn't want anything for doing the job just the price of the parts (well it was a neighbour!) and saved her £300 She admitted to me that if they (PC World) had said £100, even up to about £150 (ish) she would have paid it but by being GREEDY they lost out, to be really honest, even if they had charged the 'retail' price for the parts, say £10 and Labour charge for, say 10 minutes (and that's being generous) all this job involved was taking a side cover off (2 x screws) un-clipping heat-sink/fan , cleaning old thermal compound off CPU face and fit the unit (with pre-applied thermal paste).... then, surely £15 TOPS for 10 (really 5) minutes work would be a total cost of £20 to £25! The Tech repair business is getting, sorry, it's already got the reputation of the second hand cars (automobile) one and garage repairs in general too, i.e. Ripp Offs! (And very hard to find a reputable honest trustworthy one to boot!) Karma always wins in the end!

The Ram issue isn't a common problem at all. Also, the prices charged are not that bad cause you need to take into account their time and expenses of getting to your house.

this is old school hit piece right here.

As an IT professional that works at actual corporations, all these mobile techs and "nerds" are easily the bottom of the barrel of the PC tech industry. It's where all the ones that cant get a real job go

That guy she talked to at the end is just as much of a criminal as as the guys he sends around. Told her what she wanted to hear, paid her off and went on conducting business as usual. Most commercial tech repair businesses have diagnostic equipment that can test memory, hard drives, power supplies and any other piece of tech in a system separate or even in system. Why don't the people doing this kind of work have something similar? That they have to lug around with them other than just making guesses. Think of the machines your car gets hooked up to for diagnostic purposes. With modern PC's often the BSOD itself tells you what failed. In cryptic numbers, or beep patterns but still.

Not even cary holzman is so fast with the diagnosis xD

@piyush.ochani

6 жыл бұрын

Neotrix Carey Holzman is the best

@piyush.ochani

6 жыл бұрын

I know everything about computers, but I still watch his videos for his personality. Im just saying he is a reliable source for normal people to watch and learn something

@jacquelinewaters9558

6 жыл бұрын

You know everything about computers? Does Linus Torvalds know this because I am pretty he doesn't even know everything about computers. You must be pretty famous, I am sure that MIT could use you in the R&D labs to help them figure out AI and such. You should give those idiots a call since you know EVERYTHING about computers. They must seem like imbeciles to you.

To be fair RAM issues are the hardest to diagnose unless you have spare ram sticks available.

ram in a laptop being bad is much easier than a desktop because most don't make noise or have flashing lights. And identifying it is tricky. Without an extra stick to test it, it's hard to see.

@macster1457

8 жыл бұрын

not really if you know what you're doing. identifying bad ram is the easiest thing you can do on a desktop..even if you don't have extra ram.

@smokegamingchannel5370

7 жыл бұрын

if u have a single ram most of the new laptop have 2 rams smartest thng to do is run it with one ram insterted only turn on the laptop or pc one ram at a time

@louistournas120

6 жыл бұрын

These are DDR system, so most likely, there are 2 memory sticks. Just remove 1 memory stick and boot up. Then shutdown and remove the other memory stick and put the 2nd one. You just need to know in which slot to put the single stick. Also, a tech would bring his own DDR1 stick.

@finditandfixit2081

6 жыл бұрын

That where you're wrong, They had 2 pair of ram, Just remove one pair. If there is power, Connect to 2nd screen to determine if there any sign video. This diagnostic wasn't hard.

@Warfarer1337

6 жыл бұрын

You Probably not a technician. You cant just "carry a ram everywhere you go" like its some screwdriver. one bad weather or a bump in the car could destroyed an electronic components.

Are freaking kidding me? did they even go to college for A+ Certification? it's like they skip the steps of troubleshooting. like they could have check the wires, and the ram cards. They don't even pay attention to the POST beeps, it always helps to narrow the problem! I'm almost finish with my A+ Certification, this is shameful, bad example!

@gerble36

6 жыл бұрын

I'ts the reason I carry a speaker in my computer toolkit when ever someone asks me to fix their computer haha.

@jacquelinewaters9558

6 жыл бұрын

What in the world does an A+ certification have to do with anything? This isnt 1992 when that cert mattered, not even sure if it did then.

@consultante1650

6 жыл бұрын

Americans go to college to learn this... lol I'd teach that my teenager child in one year

That's why I just fix it myself. Learn new things, cost less, and prevent scam. 3 Years ago a guy charged me $250+ for a 160Gb SSD, I was so angry when I bought one 500Gb SSD with half the price online...

been a techie for over 15 years and this ways of looting customers disgust me tsk

I think of my self as an honest business. I charge $15 per repair but if you bring me something that takes a second I won't charge you.

"the motherboard, the motherboard! my advice is you have to take it in to replace the motherboard!"

They never thought to bring ram sticks for testing.

The hard drive diagnosis was very bad. It would still POST (Power On Self Test) with a bad drive. It would likely complain about SMART, unable to find the drive, or the OS would fail to load with a registry hove corrupt or missing etc. This is NOT even close to the symptom of bad RAM. In fairness you need to listen for beeps, which are often RAM though there are different POST codes. When it won’t post if you have nothing to go on you tear it down to just a motherboard, one stick of memory, the CPU and cooler, monitor, and keyboard. That said, you need known good parts to guess and check at times. Most common problems for no POST are bad motherboard, then bad power supply, and finally bad RAM. Surprisingly, CPUs never really die u less customer damaged. I literally used to be a tech for 10 years and made thousands of repairs and only one (1) CPU, which had bent pins from a Dell tech prior.

With the cost of computers so low, by a new one. All the "at home repairs" are scams.

Of course they’re gonna mark up parts when they need replaced they won’t give it to you for the price of the part that’s with anything

I had to take my computer in one time to be "Professionally Virus Checked" stipulated by my bank before they would let me use online banking. I took it to Circuit City. When I went to pick it up they told me it was dead and would not turn on. I told them it was fine when I brought it in. I went to it and hit the power button. It turned on . They then told me they were hitting this other button (the reset button). I then told them to give me my computer because how are they going to professionally virus check it if they do not know how to turn it on.

I'm not defending the techs in any way but to be fair the RAM normally isn't something that goes bad.

My friends laptop recently messed up. You could here it running but it would not power up. Computer repair people said she had a bad hard drive. My friend did not know I repair computers on the side so I told her I would take a look at it. I removed the battery held the power button down for about 20 seconds put the battery back in and guess what!! problem solved. That was 6 months ago and the computer is still working.

@colinshackley6236

6 жыл бұрын

The magic hard reset

I’m worried about starting a computer repair business in a rural town after seeing this doodleshite

Here's a simple solution to data retrieval: Get yourself a hard drive reader. Relatively inexpensive. You don't need top-of-the-line. Lots to choose from. Depending on which one you buy, they will connect to most popular-sized hard drives. It doesn't diagnose anything. It won't fix anything. It won't remove viruses. It retrieves & transmits data. Nothing more. Programs & operating systems can be replaced, but personal files, photos, & videos can't. As long as your hard drive hasn't been physically damaged internally, it can still see what's on it. And most importantly, it can grab your personal stuff & transfer it to a safe drive. I bought a cheap one a couple of years ago. Worth it's weight in gold. CPU goes haywire? Won't turn on? Dropped on the floor? Blue screen? No problem. Just connect it between your hard drive and to another working CPU... and you are golden. Never spend another dime on someone else's need to take advantage of you. I've bailed out a bunch of people I know, including myself. This was a public service announcement. I represent NO ONE.

wait in 2006 the price for 1gb of was $64 wow

@ThunderKat

7 жыл бұрын

I have 1GB DDR2 lying on my desk. Should I see it? I could buy some DDR4 and keep the change :)

@louistournas120

6 жыл бұрын

+blackangel75171: Not surprising at all. People would have typically 2x256 MB or 2x512 MB. It was the Win XP/Win Vista era. Vista just came out in 2006 and required 1 GB.

@spacegodzilla6475

6 жыл бұрын

Ddr4 too much

@niora9140

4 жыл бұрын

Lol now people have 16 to 32 gigs of ram and a expensive motherboard for gaming

can confirm. 3 years as a best buy customer service. geek squad is rewarded for higher sales just like any other employee. persuading customers to get higher cost solutions was heavily required.

to tell if the ram is blown you turn on the computer and read the words on the screen. if it doesn't turn on then you need to first changing out the ram since the computer simply won't turn on because it needs ram to do anything with anything on the rest of the computer.

This is a bit bogus becauseif a Windows file is corrupted you probably should do a clean install.Which means backing up data

@jackkraken3888

6 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment, I think they are referring to Xp's repair install. Which technically should fix the issue. My problem is that even XP makes it hard to corrupt system files, also they are trying to figure out how the files got corrupt in the first place, which could mean anything from hard drive failure to malware.

My friend took his non-powering PC to a local shop with good reviews and they said it needed a new motherboard. He had me give a second opinion and my first step was to remove all cards to be sure it wasn't one of them, and it turned on fine. Turns out it was just a bad Firewire card, which he didn't even need anymore. I was pretty disappointed that one of the most basic steps (narrow down the problem) wasn't performed and that my friend almost spent a couple hundred on unnecessary parts.

@vorkev1

8 жыл бұрын

+gblargg people do not understand first off I poor company can have great reviews from all the people who do not no they are getting taken. a nother thing a good repair shop will never charge you just to have them look at it and give a price on fixing it. and rember to keep in mind if it seems expensive its is go to a different shop and never sighn a thing till you are happy and take photos of all the stickers on your pc and make sure its registered this way if they try to keep the pc till you pay them you can call the cops and tell them they wear to give a free estamit and now want me to pay

I love how she explains the issue with the computer to all the techs while theyre looking at the pc as if she punted the thing off of a 2 story building and then shot it

If 1GB RAM is going for $65, and the guy charges you $120, that's not a scam. Nobody is going to come to your house, and spend time and effort working and installing parts for you to break even. 50% is the minimum profit margin for any successful business.

I will never charge anyone a repair unless it means buying new hardware to replace irreparable hardware. Apple and MS like to make it all sound hyper technical and confusing, when in fact, it's not.

@consultante1650

6 жыл бұрын

So you never repair and only sell new...

When they said there was a virus instead of saying a corrupted windows file; they thought that there was a virus that corrupted the windows file

That's why I always fix my stuff by myself...sometimes I may mess it up but still better than some scamming fucker getting paid higher than he should...KZread vids and parts from eBay always do the trick..plus it helps you learn something new

@kalijasin

7 жыл бұрын

Only thing you are out is your time ;-)

@louistournas120

6 жыл бұрын

+uwut m8: Or find some friend who is tech savvy. I had a friend who's PC would not turn on. (I had originally bought and assembled it for him for free). It turned out his power supply was dead. I think he left is PC on or connected during a lightning storm. I replaced it for free. He just payed for the power supply.

@pixelatednate4864

6 жыл бұрын

You want something done right, you might as well do it yourself! I find it funny that I, 13 year old, would have seen the problem right away. I had this problem once with a Dell Dimension E310 my step dad picked up off the curb at his auto glass shop. After doing some research and playing find the bad RAM stick, I was able to get it to fire up.

@psychozulu

6 жыл бұрын

ahh yes, pull out a ram stick and see if it works. LOL you need a degree to do that shit!

@beltotruth9403

6 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm really sick of scammers! These guys are not qualified to even open a computer! They don't use an anti static wrist strap and just touching a part can cause an electro static dischareg and fry the computer! I've been a computer Geek for 26yrs. I'm very honest and reliable! if you need help and your in Dallas go to my website and give me a call! http:bit.ly/Geek4Hire

I don't think they're scamming, they just don't know what they're talking about.

$25 that's just the price of the module and no labour. It should be closer to $50

How could they survive without a mark up? Are gas stations ripping you off when they charge 5 for a bag a chips if you can get it for 2.50 at walmart?

Where they getting the 20 dollar ram!! Ram was super expensive back then

Two thousand dollars is ridiculous. Even in 2017, you can build a pc with a 5960x and a 1070 for that's price, and that's the entire system. Just to repair a pc, that is ridiculous.

Wouldnt the solution be to initally ask what is wrong, then look at the parts the computer has after opening it and then going to the BIOS on a connected monitor to see that the RAM isnt correctly listed and then inspect the part further to find out that one of the sticks is dead and needs replacing?

How do you know you're getting someone qualified and not taken for a ride? Be a smart consumer: *Shop around!! Ask for prices and estimates. Challenge prices that seem too high. Get second opinions and ask for certifications.*

If only people had the inspiration to build their own rigs from scratch, these scams can be avoided.

@davidgn40

3 жыл бұрын

This video was aired almost two decades ago, when PC building wasn't as huge and convenient as it is today.

@jonnhanzo9529

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidgn40 PC shops,Home PC repair still scam you. Amazon Pc repair/upgrade has been proven a bait and switch scam. Amazon outsources to local pc repair and they will give you a entirely different price that is much higher. but still people are not aware.

@davidgn40

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonnhanzo9529 That's true. But I think technological knowledge has increased over the past few years, coinciding with increases of people building their own computers and such.

So happy, I know enough to do all my own computer stuff.

here's the order I use when I go to a customers house. If the computer does not come up to the bios and seems dead. 1. monitor make sure the monitor is working by hooking up a known good computer (my laptop) 2. Power supply use a jumper and see what the voltage is. 3. Video card (look for bad caps) 4. Ram. 5. motherboard look for bad caps and burnt spots. 6. remove all extra add in cards. It has to be one of those things. The cpu almost never burns up anymore. Look for clogged fans and heatsinks. If the computer can boot to the bios but doesn't come up or the hard drive is making a bunch of noise check for hard drive issues. Make sure you have known working spares with you to include power supply, video card, monitor, ram, network card, clean formatted hard drive, wireless router. If you can't find a hardware problem its most likely a windows issue or malware/virus issue. Bring a Linux Live CD and boot into Linux. I have been doing in home computer repair since 2005 and I am honest and truthful with the customer. I have many repeat customers and make a good living. It's all been word of mouth. I love being my own boss. I could make more in the corporate world but you can't put a price tag on the freedom you have as your own boss.

Really hurts to watch this, as a computer fanatic

Date Access timestamp is not trustable, it basically tell nothing

$100+ bucks just for diagnosis, that's crazy!

Didn't they lookup the beep code when starting the PC? That would immediately indicate failing RAM.

Just like these scammers with your computers, similar judgements happen at car garages too

baiting it with bad ram was already setting any tech up for disaster

contrary to other posing about 2006, it is now 2017 and still most people do not know a thing about their computer.

The techs that detected the problems and charged extra for parts, need to make money too. You go to the food store and buy your groceries, you are paying more than the food is worth. Companies need to make money too, can't work for 0 margins.

18:25 "The room" lmfao

first step for all computer troubleshooting is to go to bios first it will tell us everything if the motherboard reads the cpu alright and it detects the hard drives correctly then its not the motherboard.GPU dont start to boot until windows launches so the only culprit would be the ram

I'm no tech but usually if something goes wrong i'll do a search of the problem and a solution almost always there somewhere so I can fix it myself

The owner from the computer shop looked like he was dying on the inside.

i.m also a tech that goes to people's houses freelancing , my approach is fix it in the best way possible and asking the client how much he thinks it's worth. 90 % of the times i get a higher number than i was thinking charging. Also i'm fixing the problem with no bs like it was my own computer

I could easily scam anyone when it comes to PC repairs. It's been my hobby and career for over thirty years. I never would tho. I would rather lose money than steal it.

These repairmen are learning engineering. Just the social kind and not the tech kind.

Id get a good laugh at the guy who said the hard drive had failed and had weird sounds because mine is a SSD.

A corrupt system file does not always need to re-install the OS. I have copied corrupted system files from a working system with the same OS version/sub-version to fix an XP machine. Don't know it that trick should work nowadays. If it was me, I would change for just 1 hour.

You can't fix it, you don't charge it!

this gives me anxiety I deleted my wireless network adapter the only way I can connect to the internet is with lan cabel

Ahh this is back when 1gb ram was 60$ and now you can get 16 gb for that price

Copying data to a new drive is a painstaking process. These report uncovers a few crooked techs however, all these prices mentioned were actually pretty damn low. Geek squad is a definite scam. Its not unusual for us to install a new ssd with windows for $170 and thats a good deal! We guarantee our work and your privacy. Most of these people just have no integrity. This business is so lucrative that it pays to be honest and build a reputation on integrity, honesty, trustworthiness and all that good stuff. I do for customers what i would want someone to do for me

there is no such thing as a "Computer Technician" in the private sector., that title is reserved for the people that actually engineered/built the computer and they work for the manufacturer of your computer and they also do not charge $39.99/hr. Special deal!!! to fix your computer. you may find these techs working at places like NASA or the FBI or the government in general and they probably make like, $300 to $3000 an hour. want your computer fixed? learn how to fix it yourself., there are plenty of youtube videos on every aspect of repairs for your computer. if you have a couple of different sizes of philips screwdrivers and a flashlight, you can replace any component inside your desktop...laptops are a bit harder but can be done.

Lol the spokesperson almost cried when he saw the video and the guy is still working there. Money speaks