I own a Ramirez1A and it's wonderful. Have to confess the Lattice guitar is louder. Both sound really good. Ramirez trebels are remarkably remind me of velvet or silk.

excellent presentation. I'll take the Ramirez/fan bracing.

Love the Ramirez! Thank you!

The lattice sounds like a banjo compared to the sweet, warm, rich, full-bodied and quintessentially Spanish Ramirez.

@johnlay3040

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I don't think it sounds like banjo. My Nomex sounds more like piano or marimba. But Sheridan's guitar doesn't sound like that. It sounds like guitar.

@stddisclaimer8020

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@@johnlay3040 You're a pickin' and he's a grinin' banjo.

@alchemist1111

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It’s not the traditional Spanish sound but it has its strengths. There is a certain clarity that comes with a lattice braced guitar. I have a Thomas Humphrey Millennium and a Ramirez 1a, I do like the sound of the 1a for certain pieces like Bach’s Chaconne from Partita no.2 but I like the Humphrey lattice braced guitar for a lot of the Latin American music. If you listen to the Assad Brothers you will hear lattice braced guitars a lot.

@stddisclaimer8020

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@@alchemist1111 Humphrey guitars are lattice-braced? I don't think so. Certainly not any of the Millennium models.

I like more the Ramirez, warm, deep.

Yes the lattes if louder but the fan braced is Richer deeper more refined there is no question That the fan braced is sweeter sounding with more presents hands down

Good presentation. I use a lattice top for ensemble playing and fan braced for solo recording . The aspect that cant be explained by a recording like this is the players experience. The response of the two guitars is very different for the player. It's a different experience. I prefer the response of a lattice braced guitar , but the sound of the fan braced model is preferable.... So much upper mid range in the lattice type, its a bit much , all that mid range and a rather flat sound. My instrument is similar, but the response is great. Also , the scale length of the Ramirez must be 10 mm longer than the lattice . A very different model.... Thanks for the demonstration.

I would love to own either, or preferably both

Both are beautiful. The Ramirez is has a sweeter and more traditional tone. The Sheridan has a more distinctive and stronger voice. So my choice would depend on the particular piece of music to be played.

I've got a 1971, Cedar top, Ramirez 1a and it's a great guitar. The only fault that it has - if you can call it a fault, more like something to be aware of - is that it is a 664mm scale length so full barres at the first and second fret are a bit of a workout as the tension on the strings is substantial down there. Paul Sheridan is one of our great luthiers and he makes really great guitars. They're not cheap but they're worth every cent.

@johnlay3040

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Surely longer scale length can't be called a fault. Your small hand is a bit unfortunate.

@skinnykarlos2437

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@@johnlay3040 Read my comment. I said 'if you can call it a fault, more like something to be aware of'. Get it right. And I don't have small hands either.

I once heard it said that the more volume you try to squeeze out of a guitar, the more it starts to sound like a banjo. If you compare banjo design and design goals of lattice/carbon fiber/double top guitars, they are very similar. This is just my opinion, of course, but the appeal of the classical guitar is the uniquely beautiful and soulful voice of the traditional Spanish guitar. Flame away, modern guitar lovers...

@johnlay3040

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I think your opinion is influenced by your knowledge about the construction from your reading. No wood can possibly sounds like stretched skin.

I don't know why the guitars shown on KZread programs always looked thicker than the real guitars. Is it due to the camera or my screen?

Each one has its own characters of voice. Depend what music I play, one may be better than the other.Anybody may let me know who’s exercise piece of the first one he played.. Thanks.

Both good.

For solo or leisure playing, I will go with the Ramirez... but when it comes to ensemble. It will have to be with Sheridan. Same principle with violin... As of now, I am still searching for the brightest and piercing sounding violin for my lead violinist.

@skinnykarlos2437

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To find the best violin along with the best player is the trick. To be sure a difficult thing to find both together.

What years are the guitars ? I'd really love to know. Btw they both sound wonderful and you played lovely.

Ultimately, I’d move the microphone back for the Paul Sheridan. I like these comparative videos though.

What strings were on the 1a please? Make & tension

dunno which is best but you play nicely

Lattice excellent pour allumer la cheminée.

It was amazing that Paul Sheridan who was a mediocre luthier in the 70's has come up so far up to the same level as Ramirez. Philippe doesn't say whether it is Nomex or Balsa, but surely the modern technique has made it easier to achieve good results. Sheridan sounds very bright and sweet, and Ramirez has what Segovia calls "profundo", very serious voice indeed.

What year is the Ramirez? Thnx*

I think the Paul Sheridan guitar has a nasal sound, especially on the high notes, so i prefer the Ramirez..

Why would one compare a lattice to a standard braced guitar? They both have their pluses and minuses. That's like comparing a sedan to a pickup.

2:40 what piece is it?? Excellent playing.

@wjchivers

4 жыл бұрын

It is 'Wild Mountain Thyme' - as in kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKOktMRyoMeoYJM.html

May I ask what microphone are you using? Thanks

@latticeconcertguitar

2 жыл бұрын

2 Neuman for the guitar 103 and 84 . For the voice 103

I'll take the Ramirez.

Does the lattice braced guitar have a rosewood fretboard instead of an ebony one? It's very... odd from a high end, masterbuilt guitar.

Ramirez sings and is richer in timbre, Sheridan sounds colder, but louder

Ramirez

A find the Ramirez Richer and Warmer,The other is Tinnie,lacking Body.

@AndreiPuhach

5 жыл бұрын

Really?

@cogmission1

4 жыл бұрын

Funny... I thought the opposite. The Sheridan was much richer...?

There's a big gap between the different Ramirez 1 a..... Every Ramirez sounds different than the other. Moreover, the old ones (the ones who are very common in the market) tend to sound old, tired, and weak ( something that usually happens to old guitars in general). My feeling is that you are using an old, not so good, Ramirez 1a, which makes the other guitars sound much better than her in terms of sustain, volume, and trebles.

@latticeconcertguitar

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments. That is true that Ramirez guitars are different over time (3 generation of luthiers). The one used is not a bad one but rather good and really we played many of them. It will not be fair to compare our brand new guitar with a old generation of Ramirez for the 60's which will in any case costs as well a lot more.

@johnlay3040

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Not all Ramirez 1a sound good. I have come across a few Ramirez's which sound quite mediocre. Even the workmanship is not that good. If you are just nobody and goes to Ramirez shop in Madrid, they won't offer you their top guitars. I have a friend who went there as a tourist and came home with a slightly warped Ramirez. He took it because he was desperate. He offered it to me for a very reasonable price, but I didn't take it. Maybe the Segovia Edition is different.

@soysauce4087

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​@johnlay3040 I dare say newer generation of Ramirez 1a sounds mediocre compared to older ones made by Mariano and Antonio.

touche ébène vs touche palissandre...

klingen beide ungefähr gleich.dann nehme ich die billigere.................

Ramirez has way better sound quality. It is balanced sound.

Traditional is superior in all spheres of the test.

@eddycamp2492

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Hello , as yout I préfère the Ramirez ....I 've since 9 years and I Can Say she supprise me all the Time . The other guitare IS wonderfull but the sound Lost the spirit of the wood , the puissance give an metallical écho that some personne enjoy and other as me préfère the Ramirez......good day of France Sorry if english .... ciao.

Which treble string of Lattice guitar? Nylon or Carbon? It sounds good. Especially the 1st string, High note sounds. ### A-ha! Apoyando sounds~ I hope to listen tirando sounds

I prefer the Sheridan, clarity and sustain, a more modern sound 😀

RAMIREZ, MORE EXPRESSIVE

Ramírez much better! Is natural. The other is something "electrical" and make me nervous... Not natural at all