I am glad I found this station. I enjoy the actual breakdown. Straight forward, not religious by todays standards, but rather presented in disciple fashion.

I am so appreciative of you work friend. I pray the Lord rewards you abundantly because of your work. In the name of our God and of His Son, Jesus Christ who is love. Amen

Your work is very good

Will watch and learn later tonight😊👍

Thanks a lot!

You can use a 4th witness also The Pentuach. Jesus and the Apostles they were using the Old Hebrew . Which is too my knowledge not available to us. But keep doing these comparisons that way we can get to the right translation as it is written let everything be established using two or three witnesses.

No way. You did this one so fast. AWESOME!!!

Volume to low

The work you are doing here is so powerful. Why wait next year? Can we help you doing it more regularly?

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. The video says "next year," but I should have clarified. I meant next calendar year. It is my tradition to release these videos twice a year. Sure, I could do it more, but I want to leave more time to work on the videos about what the Pre-Nicene Christians believed. :) God bless you!

@thelivingcross3785

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch Hello. Can you please enlighten me on who Thaddaeus is and his Christian philosophy during his time of living?

@thelivingcross3785

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch I hope you reply, thank you. GOD bless.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelivingcross3785 Thank you for asking. Which Thaddaeus are you referring to? The only Thaddaeus that comes to mind is Thaddeus, one of the Twelve Apostles. Is that who you mean? God bless you!

@thelivingcross3785

2 жыл бұрын

​@@PostApostolicChurch Thank you for replying. I am perplexed and left questionable while I was reading a source on Valentinus and his philosophy that corresponded to the heresy of Gnosticism (2nd Century heresy). QUOTE: "Valentinus was born around the year 100 in Phrebonis, an Egyptian town in the Nile Delta. He received a classical Greek education in Alexandria. After converting to Christianity, he studied with the Christian teachers ----> Theudas, whom tradition holds to have been a student of the apostle Paul, and Basilides, a Gnostic philosopher.

I prefer Septuagint and trust it more

@Eman1900O

2 жыл бұрын

@Read Father Seraphim Rose I have it

@OrangeMonkey2112

Ай бұрын

Why? Just curious.

@Eman1900O

Ай бұрын

@@OrangeMonkey2112 also in Isaiah when it says a virgin shall conceive, the Greek Septuafint makes it clear it was an actual virgin and not just a young women like how the Jews try to say from their Masoretic text. Also I believe even older fragments of the Bible in Hebrew that survives often align more with the Septuagint

@OrangeMonkey2112

Ай бұрын

@@Eman1900O oh. Okay. Thank

Love this brother. Hard to hear unfortunately

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean “hard to hear”?

Mark for example, it would make sense to me would use only one OT to quote from! Either LXX, Masoretic or another? Plus also if I am quoting someone for example, I would not necessarily do it word for word but maybe miss out a few words, add others but the gist of what was said would be understood.

God bless, wouldn't you like to have a look at the NETS, what are your thoughts on that translation?

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. I have used the NETS. I like it because it is free online. I haven't noticed anything about it that make it better than other translation. So far, I like Brenton's and the Apostolic Bible Polyglot better. However, as with everything, it is better to compare many translations than few. God bless you too!

1:51 next year? too much time :,( looking forward to see it!

Hi,Isaiah 26:18 in the septuagint differs (A LOT) from the masoretic text and i don't know if u knew it. It Is the chp in which the resurrection of the dead is clearly stated in the ot! Good work, bless u.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. I looked up Isaiah 26:18. I didn't notice a big difference between Masoretic and Septuagint. Will you please doublecheck the reference? If that is the correct verse, will you please explain the mention of the resurrection there? God bless you, too!

Hey this is super off topic, but will you ever go over Marcionism and the Marcionite "Gospel of the Lord"? More and more I am being convinced that Marcion's gospel was first before the three synoptic gospels and that if gives a more accurate image of Jesus. Not as a jewish messiah but as a messenger of a before then unknown god

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for asking. No, I don't plan on covering Gnostic works because those are outside the scope of this channel and because I do not believe Gnosticism is the truth. But, I'm interested in the information. From your comment, I have a couple questions. How was the Gospel of the Lord written before the synoptic gospels if Marcion lived in the 100s AD? What are the reasons you have for why it was written before the synoptic gospels, and what reasons do you have for why you think it more accurately portrays Jesus? Do you link where I can check out the Gospel of the Lord for myself?

What is your view on the Eastern Orthodox?

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for asking. After discovering the Pre-Nicene Christian writings for myself, I have come to appreciate the Orthodox Church so much! I have yet to find a church today that is the same as the Pre-Nicene Church. But the Eastern Orthodox Church, in my opinion, is one of the three Christian groups that comes close to the Pre-Nicene Church. While I am not Orthodox, I have a very, very high respect for the Christians who are. God bless you!

The Evangelists were translating from the Palestinian Text (Theodotion) not the Egyptian (the Seventy).

I was recently been seeing what is this Septuagint , I'm really confused what is it only know that Septuagint is translation of Hebrew Bible into greek ( still not sure ). May god help me , may be my understanding is too loo 😭

@skiddwister9143

2 жыл бұрын

You are right. The Septuagint is the Greek translation from an earlier Hebrew manuscript. It is believed that the Masoretic text (which came after the Septuagint) is a changed version of the earlier Hebrew manuscript which was used as the basis for the Septuagint. The reason being that using the earlier manuscript, Jesus was seen as undeniably the Messiah. The Pharisees, Sadduces and Rabbis changed the text so that it wasn't so apparent that Jesus was the one.

@catbilota2492

2 жыл бұрын

@@skiddwister9143 what is Masoretic text

@catbilota2492

2 жыл бұрын

@@skiddwister9143 what do you mean by saying Masoretic text Is the changed version of early Hebrew manuscripts

@skiddwister9143

2 жыл бұрын

@@catbilota2492 Dan is right. There is a lot written about the Masoretic Text on the internet.

@jesuscastelan2218

2 жыл бұрын

@krish I recommend you buy a introductory book like by Paul D. Wegner or by Ellis Brotzman. They sell under 20 ish dollars. I haven’t read them myself, but theses people have credentials. Don’t trust everything you read on the internet. In addition, there’s an ongoing series on Aleph with Beth to easily learn Hebrew. Alpha with Angela is also doing a similar series on easily learning Greek.

Hey! I know it's not related of this video. Also, forgive me if I ask for this, but really, really I desire a video about comparisons between manuscripts between Genesis 5 & 11 for showing why Septuagint is most correct between others. I'm aware of two of your videos in this series. In one you said something about this at the end (kzread.info/dash/bejne/oaioppubpJvaZJc.html) and at the start of this other video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWxtmsudnN3giNo.html) I think it won't be a big burden for you, because you already had most of numbers and charts correct. A video just for emphasize why Septuagint is probably the correct one between other writings in emphasis of Genealogies/Chronology between other manuscripts in Genesis 5 & 11. Septuagint (Vaticanus) / Septuagint (Alexandrinus) *vs* Masoteric *vs* Samaritarian *vs* Vulgate / Also, if it's possible, to quote some guys like *Flavious Josephus* 1st century, jewish historian. *Theophilus of Antioch* , 2nd century, Church historian. *Julius Africanus* , 3rd, Church Historian, *Eusebius of Caesarea* , 4th, Church Historian. This four guys agree with Septuagint too. (I'll leave this video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hK14xctqaKfZaco.html) Most of quotes of church fathers and other historians agree with the Septuagint Alexandrinus. And there are other manuscripts of septuagint that are not part of Vaticanus version but agree with the correct age of death of Methuselah and the flood, and are equal to the quotes of church fathers and historians. It was just a little mistake of a Scribe in Vaticanus version. Summarised: It could be like an apologetic video for Chronology in Septuagint. Hope you can do it. I really want for one. And also I think it could be useful among christian scholar & jewish. The Lord bless you amigo.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!! I don't have any plans to go into more detail about Gen 5 and 11. I think my chart is sufficient for most people. However, I like ALL of the things you brought up: such as the different version of the Bible and the ancient writers who talked about it. I think you have a really good grasp on where to get the information you're looking for. :) Thanks for sharing that video from NathanH83. I've seen it before. He and I have really enjoyed posting videos on the Septuagint. Thanks for the things you said and for your encouragement. God bless you!

I thought you said the Septuagint was quoted 90% of the time? The running count is no where near that.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

It is great that you noticed that. You are correct. Although, we haven't went through even 25% of the New Testament yet. As you will see in coming videos, the other writers nearly always pull from the Septuagint, especially Paul. So I expect to see the percentage change as we continue going through the New Testament. So, I'm not worried about what I said about it being 90%. Yet, I will admit that I haven't seen a full analysis of the New Testament--as I am doing with these videos. When I'm done with this series and the percentage is not 90%, then I will accept whatever percentage we end with. In other words, a study like this (going verse by verse) is going to give us the correct percentage. God bless you!

I converted into a septuaginta catholic

@franciscoalbarenquerausch

2 жыл бұрын

@Read Father Seraphim Rose the nearest orthodox chuch is 500 kilometers from my city. Can I got on attending mass at a roman church? Can I go on venerating roman catholic saints? Saint bruno, saint therese of lisieux and saint edith stein are my favorite saints

@franciscoalbarenquerausch

2 жыл бұрын

@Read Father Seraphim Rose in case I become orthodox*

@franciscoalbarenquerausch

2 жыл бұрын

@Read Father Seraphim Rose thanks. I see it complicated then... I will think about it Anyway, thanks for your time. Greetings from Argentina

...🤔. ..did you say "next year" ?😬

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Maybe I should clarify: next calendar year. I will be posting a video every February and ever August. God bless!

@someguyoverthere3275

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch how is the Orthodox life treating you?

@someguyoverthere3275

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch excellent to hear. Many like your narration style. ..and many like the text comparrisons. The short format allows me, at least, the open the books being compared side by side and follow along. I like that.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

@@someguyoverthere3275 I'm so glad you have enjoyed the style of presentation. I appreciate you saying that! Well, I am not Orthodox. In my studies, I have looked into the Orthodox Church and really like a lot of the stuff I see. But for me, I don't like to identify myself with any of today's Christian groups. I do identify as Pre-Nicene and want to live that life more and more. I've seen folks become Orthodox or Catholic or other things, and I think it is great as long as they live for Christ and live for true Christianity--and not merely for the group they joined.

@someguyoverthere3275

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch thanks for the reply. Your voice sound exactly like another narrator. So, not Orthodox. That's interesting. The Church is traceable, so it is suprising to hear. Much of the polemics against Orthodox Christians are really skewed, and I think that is very unfortunate. What is strange to me is that Jesus made the Church. And people always seem to think they could make one that could endure and really work better than what Jesus made. I don't see how that is possible. Maybe it's because people think Jesus didn't make a Church. People always manage to read past those passages the established that is what HE was doing in addition to HIS other activities. To reject The Church, one MUST reject the notion that continuity is not part of Christian Faith. Why do I say this? Because it is biblical that it is supposed to be a continuation of the active worship of GOD, within the boundaries of correct authority. ...many who reject the Church never understand that Rabbinic Judaism split away, not Christianity. People have it backwards. Deacons were the most obvious innovation and that is called out in Scripture. ...and for some reason, people never see the Apostles as being Jews.

yu on oysee yet? they took medown for reading the Bible...flyingaxblade...mny ears ago

The massoretic text doesn't exist at the time of Lord God Yeshua/Jesus, and of the apostles. They used a different Hebrew source, along with the Septuagint. They is none perfect translation, but we have different witnesses, Samaritan Pentateuque for the Torah, and Septuagint, and Dead Sea Scrolls, and Massoretic Text. The best scholar about this topic is Emanuel Tov, and to understand what is the original meaning, you have to compare all those manuscripts, sometimes SP and LXX and DDS witnesses against the MT, and sometimes SP, DDS, MT agree against the LXX. As Emanuel Tov says in a video : "The Septuagint is a good text, and the Massoretic is a good text.“ Both are useful to compare the different spelling, vocalisation, source, etc......of those translations made by Jews in their time.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. I'm glad you brought up these points. It's great to see someone who will compare all of those different manuscripts. A true textual scholar will do that. God bless you!

@yeshuaisyhvhgodmadeflesh6258

2 жыл бұрын

​@@PostApostolicChurch Shalom ! Emanuel Tov, my favorite scholar about this topic, did this work since he is polyglot, and have study all manuscripts SP, DSS, LXX, Peshitta, and MT, and wrote books about that, and he has shared those sources in Accordance Bible Software. Since you like old sources, it will be good my Brother in Christ, that you do a video about the chronology books of the New Covenant at the time of church fathers, cause it differs to the one invented by Jerome to fit the catholic dogma. I don't know if you have read a book about this topic called : The Biblical Canon lists from early Christianity. The Aramaic Church use the good one, when they put all books, cause they consider 2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John, Jude, Revelation, as not parts of Scriptures ??????? The right Chronology is : 1) The Four Gospels. 2) Acts. 3) James, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, Jude, Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews. 4) Revelation. And may be you can do about why the Bible has 66 books, being 3 times the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet, Genesis = Aleph, and Revelation = Tav. And they are divided in 7 parts, the number 7 is perfection : Tanakh = Old Covenant = 3 parts as quoted by our God and Savior Jesus (Luke 22.45) : 1) Torah. 2) Nevi'im. 3) Ketuvim + Berit Hadasha (New Covenant) = 4 parts : 4) Gospels. 5) Acts). 6) Epistles. 7) Revelation. I love John 19.20 in Hebrew : Y'shua Ha'nostri Ve'melech Ha'yehudim = YHVH. HalleluYAH Be blessed by the Name above all names, Yeshua/Jesus. Amen ! HalleluYAH !

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeshuaisyhvhgodmadeflesh6258 I do have an idea to make a video about how we got the NT canon. I'm not sure when I will get around to it though. I'm not sure what you mean about chronology. Do you mean when the books were written? If so, the order of books would be very, very different from the order you gave. By chronology, do you mean in order of significance? If so, I think your order is pretty good. When it comes to the most debated books, you identified those. (2Pet, 2-3 John, Jude, Revelation) The Pre-Nicene Christians wrote about those books, but weren't 100% convinced if they were genuine or not. In my opinion, I'm very glad they were included in the canon. When it comes to the 66 books in 3 alphabets or the Bible divided in 7 parts, I think those are neat manipulations of math. But I do not believe patterns of math can prove that the number of books is accurate. As for me, because of the Septuagint and Deutercanon, there are 77 books in my canon. God bless you, brother! It is a pleasure discussing these things with you.

@yeshuaisyhvhgodmadeflesh6258

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch Shalom my Brother in Christ. By chronology, I mean the original orders of the books for the New Covenant, before Jerome change it to fit Rome ideology. The Eastern Church, and some Messianic Jews, use the original orders that I quote to you. In my opinion too, my Brother, 2 Pet, 2-3 John, Jude, and Revelation, are parts of the canon, cause the Holy Spirit is their Author without any doubt. And my spirit rejoice in me when I read them, contrary to the apocrypha, where it get bitter. Satan hate Revelation cause it relate his coming end, which is very soon. Amen ! So we understand his purpose to add books or to subtract them. But our God in us, is Bigger than the one in the world. HalleluYAH. As for the 66 books = 39 + 27, they fit perfectly the Hebrew Alphabet from Genesis to Revelation, and the perfection of our God, cause contrary to you, my dear Brother, I think math are very significant in the universe made by our God, nothing is random with God. Epiphanus, Flavius Joseph, etc..., wrote about the 27 books of the Old Covenant, that Jews count as 22, to fit the Hebrew Alphabet. It is not random ;). As for the 7 divisions of the 66 books : Our God and Savior Jesus quotes the three parts in Luke 24.44. And for the new covenant, you see obviously four parts : Gospels + Acts + Epistles + Revelation. My Bible has only 66 Books, and I read the LXX too, but without apocrypha, from the Logos Bible of Esposito, cause, as for me, the apocrypha just bitter my spirit, in my opinion they don't come from the Holy Spirit. There is some apocrypha quotes in the Bible = the book of Jasher, and the one of Enoch....but look, even in your 77 books Bible, you would not find them. Why ??? Cause they don't come from the Holy Spirit, as others that you have in your Bible. There is one apocrypha that I like to read with cautiousness, the books of Jubilees, it is interesting, but it don't come from Holy Spirit. Did you read it my Brother ? If you were to put all the apocrypha together, the Old Testament will be over 90 books. I am glad, they are not. My dear Brother in Christ, go on to make videos, and be blessed by the Name above all names, Jesus. Amen ! HalleluYAH ! Maran-atha.

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeshuaisyhvhgodmadeflesh6258 I appreciate all the information you shared. Your perspective is very interesting! The only thing I would strongly disagree with is whether the Deuterocanon came from the Holy Spirit or not. You say it does not. As I read the Deuterocanon, I see the Holy Spirit's work and am very moved by what the Holy Spirit has done through those books. Plus, since many passages in the Deuterocanon are quoted in the New Testament, I see them as approved by Jesus and the apostles. Finally, the earliest Christians (after the apostles) accepted them in their canon, so those two or three witnesses are enough for me. That is my perspective on this subject. I have not read Jubilees, but I really, really want to. I've heard nothing but good and interesting things about it. As I read the early Christians, I see that they read everything they could get their hands on, including the book of Enoch and the Gnostic books. They weren't afraid to read things that were not in their canon. I wish more modern-day Christians had that kind of courage and humility. Instead, most Christians seem to have a lot of bias toward things they are unfamiliar with. I appreciate the way you write with such grace and encouragement. Thank you for supporting this channel with your words. It has uplifted me. By God's will, I plan on making more videos! God bless you, brother.

Masoretic wins in Zacheria 12:10. Masoretic says they will look upon God who is pierced and septuagint says they will mourn when they see God. No mention of piercing in the septuagint

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. When we get to John 19:37, yes, the Masoretic has the better reading there. As a side note, when I was teaching a Bible class on "The Jews Under Persia" and made a video on this channel about it, I noticed that both Zechariah and Nehemiah are better in the Masoretic than the Septuagint. I didn't see a pattern as to why, but I noticed the pattern. Granted, the differences in the LXX and Masoretic in Zechariah are extremely few. However, Nehemiah is incredibly different between the LXX and Masoretic. God bless you!

@anyaforger8409

2 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch Any thoughts on Book of Enoch? Also, can you do a video compilation where LXX and MT wins? How about the Dead Sea Scrolls?

@PostApostolicChurch

2 жыл бұрын

@@anyaforger8409 I have read some of Enoch. It's a really fantastic and interesting book. I think it is worth a read. However, Enoch has not been found with copies of the Septuagint. It is clear that the Jews never considered it as Scripture. Today, the only group that does consider it Scripture is the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. Their Biblical canon is pretty... weird. Of course, I should also mention that Enoch was a fairly popular (but again, not canonical) book in the first century. Jude, in his letter, quotes from Enoch. So even among Christians, Enoch was known. I don't know enough about the DSS to comment on them. It would take a textual scholar who knows the languages to analyze how the DSS compares with the Septuagint and Masoretic. I know there are some materials on the Internet. I have not looked into them for myself.

Are you kidding? Do you not know that the first five seals of Revelation have been opened? There is not enough time for your complete teaching before the seventieth week of Daniel begins.

@aquila813apologetics3

10 ай бұрын

Only the first and 2nd seal have been opened which is covid as the white horse and russia and ukraine war as the red horse. The black horse will ride very shortly with the coming grain crisis provoked by Putin with his walking out of the black sea grain deal. Watch this month. I expect a major news story to hit the news about grain. Something will happen.

1.The Septuagint has historical books that not are not Biblical. 2. The books in the Septuagint that are Biblical are translations and not Divinely Inspired 3. Because the New Testament was written in Greek, the writers would have used the Greek translations that people knew. No different than quoting the bible in English for English speakers. The Hebrew text are still the original. 4. The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that the Hebrew text are accurate. Origen and Alexandrian gnostics changed the texts

@jaredtoney3417

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, we do not have a historical canon of the septuagint as we have for the Bible today. So there is no way to tell that anyone of the jews who used the septuagint did also use or did not use those apocryphal books. Second, not all of the apocryphal books were written in Greek. Some were translated to Greek.

@anyaforger8409

2 жыл бұрын

THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU HATE LXX AND PREFERED PHARISAIC FRAUD OVER WHAT AUTHORS USED IS FOR ASLONG AS YOU SHOW TO PEOPLE "THERE'S DIVINELY INSPIRED PRESERVED TEXT", YOU HAVE ARGUMENT AGAINST DEUTEROCANONICAL BOOKS. GET OFF HERETIC! 1611 KJV IS MUCH WORSE FOR IT DISHONESTLY RENDERS CERTAIN EVEN WHEN COMPARED IT AGAINST WHAT TEXTUS RECEPTUS IS SAYING JOHN 3:36, LUKE 1:28 ETC.

@anyaforger8409

2 жыл бұрын

HISTORY ATTESTED "CANON GIVEN FROM THE BEGINNING" IS A LIE. SADUCHEES AND SAMARITANS WILL NEVER ACCEPT BOOK OTHER THAN SEFER TORAH QUMRAN DEAD SEA SCROLL COMMUNITY DON'T HAVE ESTHER SEPTUAGINT COMMUNITY HAVE LARGER CANON AND SO ARE YOUR TROLL CANON

@jaredtoney3417

2 жыл бұрын

@@anyaforger8409 Honestly, I'm not sure if you have any room to correct anyone because of your behavior. We will probably never listen to anyone who approaches things as you are doing. We are to speak truth in love. You however are speaking with hate and for an attack. If you truly care about the bible, you will apply what Christ taught us and speak truth in love. Just because Jesus condemned the pharisees does not mean that you can attack someone in the same way on an issue that is not even heretical.