Follow up video on how to fix Appion kzread.info/dash/bejne/noNspsOugsSzqbQ.htmlsi=-l0YzRl9tUJeJwZC

With appion you can squeeze the teeth together to get a proper tension on the core

@buzz6792

Ай бұрын

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@acrservicesmathewr7565

Ай бұрын

Yes it should click onto the shredder which will not allow it to pull off. They come new not clamped so this needs to be done

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Yes I mentioned that, some people said theirs were too tight out of the box

C&D valve core removal tool hasn't failed me

very informative video. Well done!

Good to know about the Fieldpiece 5/16" adapter. I usually double up the Appion if I want to isolate my micron gauge. It's little bit of a pain, but it works, and it's only slightly bulkier than the Fieldpiece 😄. Can't say I've ever had much issue with the cores falling out, but I think I did have to adjust the tension on one of them, which is easy enough to do. If I had it to do over, I'd probably grab a couple of Fieldpieces with the adapter.

Have got 2x of the Navac ones, used both 1/4 and 5/16 sizes at least half a dozen times each , no issues at all so far 👌

@willllo

29 күн бұрын

ive got that navac ones too. great build and no issues too. decent price as well. not sure where you are but in the UK the appion stuff is ridiculous £100+ for a core remover is crazy.

The amazon are the best ones!!! Hands down 😂😂😂😂 I’ll probably get the one with the sight glass

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

😂 someone told me why are these better than my $15 Amazon one, I was like na nvm 🤣

Well , like Curt , you did a good demo & review as well ... Thx

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Thanks Eddy

I only have the first appion model for both sizes. I noticed when I remove the core, I have to back the threads out off the service port so the gasket isn’t smashed, and kinda wiggle the tool so it comes out easier, it can be a pain. Also, I’ve ran into service ports that are smashed from people over tightening the non gasketed caps, so getting the cores out is impossible😅 great review, I’m glad I’m not the only one!

I use Appion for my evacuations and reinstalling cores only, for it's vacuum rated body. Not a service tool for replacing cores under pressure. The NAVAC core tool has been ok so far

Great video. I use my JB a lot now but may be in the market for new ones soon. Might have to give the FP ones a try.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Talk to Curt, he's been using them in the field quite a bit.

Thanks for the vid, I have a 1/4 and 5/16 from accutools. I'll stick with what I have, but if I ever need another tool, I'll try fieldpeice.

Removal tool madness

We also have the same issue with the appion core remover. Always

I've mostly used Appion. Couldn't stand the NAVAC tool that broke apart under pressure. Recently started using the JB VCRT's. I'm super interested in the Fieldpiece VCRT's. I had two Appion 1/4" VCRT lose the vacuum I was pulling after isolating the system. For whatever reason the shut off valve would over rotate and create a gap. One was older and one was brand new out of the box.

I’ve found with the Appion VCRT they can be a bit of a pain to remove the core once you have it unthreaded. There’s a trick to it, loosen the tool until you start to bleed pressure then screw it back in slightly and they come up every time.

@buzz6792

Ай бұрын

They are ajustable… kzread.info/dash/bejne/opZppKRxhdOYfMo.htmlsi=yX0f7_y5GePIOnZ2

@HVACOG

Ай бұрын

Thanks for that

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

adjustable tension with pliers, I did a follow up video

Are any of the core wrenches compatible with any of the other valves?

Your video appeared to show bias against Appion and in favor of Fieldpiece. However, it's worth noting that Fieldpiece also didn't grab on the first attempt. In my experience as someone who uses both tools in the refrigeration industry, space is a crucial consideration and sometimes the size of the Fieldpiece makes it impractical. Regarding the Appion's grabbing issue, I find that frequently pinching the ends is necessary for it to effectively grab the cores.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Not biased 😂 they all had the same test. If you have to pinch them then they ain't making them right. If anything I said I liked something from each of them And yes space is crucial, I do refrigeration. That appion lever has got caught up on things for me so I like the FP knob. Not biased just things I've noticed using them. And I purposely left in that fieldpiece needed 2 attempts

Have always had the same issue with the appions. Brand new out of the box they won't grab them. Usually end up using pressure to shoot out the cores which doesn't always work then working on a running low temp rack running under 20 psi

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Yup. You gotta adjust the ends with pliers is that helps. They usually need to be tweaked

You can easily adjust the grabber on the appion vcrts with a set of needle nose pliers like it explains and shows in the instructions manual.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Yup did a video on it

I’ve had trouble with the Appion and found that you can’t tighten the valve on the port as it squishes the oring gasket making the opening to small for the core

With the appion 2 things are vital 1 is that the grabber is adjusted properly which is where the grabber does click onto the core and 2 DO NOT over tighten the vcrt body to the port as if you do the inner o-ring will get squashed such that the inside clearance reduces enough to grab the core. If you have problems getting the core out with an appion try loosening the end a lil bit at a time. Until I figured that part out it wouldn't work for me. As far as the jb goes ive had 2 so far and they both leaked at the lever fresh outta the box. I gave up on those. As for the accutools I really dislike the grabber end and it hasn't worked out for me yet.

I just used my Appion the other day and it worked fine. It snapped on and held the core. Looks like yours isn't snapping on.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Had to be adjusted, I made a video on how to because a lot of people didn't know that

I would love the JB (torque) with a site glass. A cross between FP and JB. We should be checking the valve core torque.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

I would love to put them all together for the ultimate tool 🤘🏽

I believe the Fieldpiece has the best built vctr, followed by the JB. I have Appion and Uniweld and I like the later better

I despise the Appion's never has worked in years of use....I always blow it out with the gas pressure.

I’ve been having the same issues with my appions…it always does that bs

I've bought Schrader depressors / core removal. JB / Yellow Jacket / C&D / all the gaskets eventually melt and the tools are useless. Good luck getting new gaskets in them. I've recently bought Appions. Well see if they hold up better.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

My appion depressors gaskets just got shredded, I'll see if they're replaceable

@Christopher._M

22 күн бұрын

The question is which one is the best deal and which one last longer?

@tombalboni2143

20 күн бұрын

Lol, I've only used Appion so far as they started the "vacuum rated" mantra.. Have rebuilt and been frustrated by all appion models. Be prepared for sticker shock when you buy the Appion oring rebuild kit. WAY too expensive for a couple Fin O-rings. When my current appion orings go bad, I'm switching to the fieldpiece. Be thankful you never had to rebuild the 1st gen appions in the field. There are TWO orings stacked up front and almost impossible to replace both without damage. And somewhere in a field in NC there sits 2 Fin 1st gen vcrts rotting in hell..

Core removal tool? I didn’t know that even existed I just use a core tip screw driver given to me By the local supply house Just make sure area is clear put a brick in the Core path and let it rip

@sanproekt

Күн бұрын

How You can do it under pressure?

Appion has a video and you should pinch them or expand them every time to get a tight fit but I will get the FIELDPIECE ones just because I love FIELDPIECE

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

👍🏽

I have purchased CPS core removal tools for the price there "F/N" great

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Jake told me that one was good, haven't tried it yet

I use an extra to adjust the grabber.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

I noticed you really need to

@sykotictendencies6032

Ай бұрын

I’ve had a few different brands and they all needed adjusting . If i didn’t already have 4 of the 1/4” and 2 of the 5/16” the field piece would be a no brainer but I ain’t buying any more . Haha If they want to send me one I’d use it of course . Hehe

@sykotictendencies6032

Ай бұрын

I adjust them when I first got them so i wasn’t doing it when needed .

I prefer my C&D, looks the same as Accutools brand, prefer over Appion which is bulkier.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

I broke mine 😅 didn't make it to the test but yeah it's identical

I have used every single core remover on the market and eventually they all leak at some point, specially Apion

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

True. I actually been wanting test mine cuz I know something is leaking somewhere

Appion, leaks after 3 times? Bought Yellow Jacket then.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

I've heard that a few times now

I have yellow jackets and they have trouble sometimes too. Seems like this is a hard item to design because it looks like they all have drawbacks

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

If only we could mix them to make the perfect one 😅

I purchased Appion after Yellow Jacket core tool ownership. The rubber seals leaking on the YJ drove me to look at alternatives and the o-ring seals on the Appion are better. The first Appion purchase was the pink 5/16th unit and it had the stem grabbing type end. The next 1/4” Appion had the body grab style. This is a terrible design as the tolerances on cores are all over the map. Sometimes it grabs, sometimes not. I ended up using the YJ core trapper on the Appion body, as it grades on the stem. This seems like a half ass solution as they did make the stem grab type remover. Frustrating! My original 5/16 Appion are giving me vacumn fits as it seems that the ball valve is leaking and cannot be serviced by the repair kit offered. I think I may have to scrap them after spending $78 CDN on the repair kit. F*#k!ng maddening.

Man I had a Navac once, first time trying to remove one under pressure the fuckin thing literally blew apart I lost the entire charge

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

That's what I've been hearing! That sucks man

@BabyKMoney

Ай бұрын

@@ReliableHVACR thanks for the review tho, much needed I got the field piece without the sight glass was thinking about getting that one

I love your videos, but your sponsorship is showing through.. the Appion are adjustable, the standars for cores are trash. Having a tool that allows you to adjust them in the field gives you a wide range of ability. Don’t get me wrong Fieldpeice really has come up with the work of art adding the sight-glass and isolation valves. I’ve also never had an issue with NAVAC, other than their length Which seems to be a common problem with most core tools with most mini splits. My recommendation is if you’re going to review tools take the time and do the research on how to use the tool correctly. kzread.info/dash/bejne/opZppKRxhdOYfMo.htmlsi=yX0f7_y5GePIOnZ2

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

I wasn't paid for this so I do not care to promote any brand, I genuinely think FP will work better for my equipment. And no disrespect with my reply here but I mentioned that I know you can pinch them, idk if you saw it but I did a follow up video to show the instructions. Lot of comments and messages that nobody knew that, they expected them to work out of the box which was my test. It's 120 degrees out right now who wants to fumble with adjustments.

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

And I've had several people that bought navac and hated them 🤷🏽‍♂️ so I never bought em

The appion code tools sucks, I WAS VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE INABILITY TO GRAB THE CORE AND REMOVE

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

Need adjustments, I did a how to video

After first min watching you use appion, I knew. Couldn't finished watching your "Review" , you couldn't even use it properly. Not all core are sized exactly the same. Wonder which core removal tool was paying for your "review" 😂

@ReliableHVACR

Ай бұрын

None of the others had an issue 😂 they must of all paid me! NOT! Nobody paid man, go check out the follow up video on Appion. So many others had the same issue and didn't know about adjusting it. I mentioned here I know you can pinch them. And this wasn't a review it was a comparison of them working as is 🤷🏽‍♂️