Compared: StaBALL 6.5, Match, and HD!

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We’ve individually tested all three powders in Hodgdon’s Winchester StaBALL line. Now, we’re comparing them!
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  • @martinwilson4570
    @martinwilson4570 Жыл бұрын

    I’d like to see Guy Miner come back & test the HD version in his 25-06.

  • @waderatcliff-ci6lg
    @waderatcliff-ci6lg Жыл бұрын

    A couple of months ago I just got a SAKO S20 Hunter in 6.5 PRC and I am using StaBall HD. As I type this I am getting ready to head to the range and chrono several 6.5 PRC test loads-several of which are loaded with StaBall HD. For my 6.5 PRC my max loads with StaBall HD are 61.2 grs. As soon as I get some velocity data I will add some comments about the results. I will say this, it meters beautifully on my RCBS electronic powder dispenser and I am very excited to test these loads. Thanks for the great video.

  • @adammccollum8740
    @adammccollum8740 Жыл бұрын

    I tried the 6.5 sta ball ... When H4350 was hard to find and had fabulous results.. Once H4350 was available I did a side-by-side comparison... And the results were VERY close, could not be happier with sta ball.

  • @wadelandeche8632
    @wadelandeche8632 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You Gavin! I'm still on the lookout for some STABALL MATCH to try in several cartridges...308Win, 30'06, 223 to start with.

  • @guyminer3168
    @guyminer3168 Жыл бұрын

    A very useful lineup of powders!

  • @e.foster1284
    @e.foster1284 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the differences between these powders. I've been using staBall 6.5 for my type 38 Japanese arisaka loads. I find 38 to 40 grains works great and is deadly accurate.

  • @05Dmax_LLY
    @05Dmax_LLY Жыл бұрын

    I've had pretty good results from the new Match powder in my 308. Picked up a few pounds to test going into this PRS season. Found 46.0 gr to give me the best SD/EXs pushing Hornady 168gr BTHP Match bullets at 2620 fps out of an 18" barrel. All while doing my load development during a Midwest spring when it's 40° one Saturday and 80° then next 😅

  • @nekoghostgunner1129
    @nekoghostgunner1129 Жыл бұрын

    I might pick up some of the Staball match for 22-250 load development alongside the CFE223 I was mainly planning to use.

  • @DougGrotler-lf2cu
    @DougGrotler-lf2cu Жыл бұрын

    I picked up some Winchester Staball Match and have worked up some loads for my 38-55WFC. Out of 8 loads tested the average group size is .605" with the biggest being 1 .275" and the smallest being . 475". All very impressive as I'm shooting these out of my Henry Side Gate, lever action. With other powders, and I've tested 6 other powders, my groups were all over 1.4", some as large as 4.253" . These groups were all shot with "trued" Hawk 255gr Jacketed flat tipped spire point bullets.

  • @powellnable
    @powellnable Жыл бұрын

    Just tried some StaBall 6.5 for the first time a few days ago. Loaded up some 140 ELD for my 6.5 Creedmoor from 43.6g to 44.8g. All the Sd's were in the teens, with two getting down to single digits. I was definitely impressed. Based on performance, price, availability, and meters so very good, it's a winner for me.

  • @darrenjones2933

    @darrenjones2933

    7 ай бұрын

    What brass did you use?

  • @powellnable

    @powellnable

    7 ай бұрын

    I was just using once fired Hornady brass

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a good selection. Been hearing a lot of good things about the 6.5 powder sunce it came out. When i get a real place and can mount the presses on my bench, i will definitely try it, and probably the match. Don't think i have anything that would need the HD, unless i get a 6.5 PRC at some point, which interests me. Keep the great content coming! Thank you for everything

  • @gorillamotors
    @gorillamotors Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see some test results with the 338 Lapua Magnum using HD and a 300 Berger hybrid and/or 300 Hornady A-Tip.

  • @natehayes82
    @natehayes82 Жыл бұрын

    Love to try some hd for my 6.8 western

  • @christopherhiher5783
    @christopherhiher5783 Жыл бұрын

    I have used 6.5 in my 243 and 708. Pushing ttsx in both. It performs well in both. It’s quickly become my favorite.

  • @williamcrist1887
    @williamcrist1887 Жыл бұрын

    I have been running the SB6.5 in my 6mm Creedmore using a 107gr. Sierra. Still have more testing but it looks to be a good contender

  • @user-jr6to9zm2x
    @user-jr6to9zm2x Жыл бұрын

    Staball 6.5 Very versatile and temp stable. Used it I. Mozambique in a 375 H&H and use it in my 6.5 creedmoor.

  • @dhooter

    @dhooter

    22 күн бұрын

    That is possible in a cartridge that usually needs a very slow powder like H1000? I have a 300Rum and I’ve read about just using 4350 powders like IMR and H4350 but I’ve personally been weary about trying it

  • @peterk2466
    @peterk24667 ай бұрын

    I have been using Staball 6.5 in my 6.5 Creedmoor with great results. I recently have started using it in my 338 Sherman as guys have previously had good luck with Hybrid 100v. I'm just starting to experiment, but feel I will have great luck with it!

  • @876mpr
    @876mpr8 ай бұрын

    I just started working with 6.5 Staball in my modern 6.5x55. Definitely like what I’m seeing so far. Should be able to get 2700 fps with a 140 grain bullet staying within the maximum for old military rifles.

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 Жыл бұрын

    U.S.A. made! Outstanding. Liking results with Staball 6.5 in 7mm Rem Mag and 30/06. Looking forward to more content on Match & HD.

  • @jcjustice3786
    @jcjustice3786 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.👍

  • @6427781
    @6427781 Жыл бұрын

    Any more updates on primer shortages? Thanks

  • @relleknoj
    @relleknoj Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @beenstork
    @beenstork Жыл бұрын

    Gavin, can you do some temp stability testing of the Staball 6.5??? I saw one guy do a really basic test and it showed evidence that it isnt exactly temp "stable". It was better than some that are know not to be temp stable but it wasnt nearly as much as something like H4350

  • @jordanword3618
    @jordanword36186 ай бұрын

    Just got some of this powder and was running Hornardy 140g ELD-M bullets with 44.0g of StaBall 6.5 at a COL of 2.82. Got 2810 FPS out of my Accuracy International AXSA with a SD of 9fps.

  • @outdoorsinontario3037
    @outdoorsinontario30375 ай бұрын

    Picked up stabll65 this week,… I just charged up from 38.4 to 45……. 143grain eld-x and 2 kinds of brass… I’m going out to test on Sunday! Super excited. If you want me to come back and let u know how they did, please let me know on here and I’ll come back and post it below! Gr8 video, and I look forward to more! Thnx

  • @ragnarrloobrok70
    @ragnarrloobrok70 Жыл бұрын

    I bought some HD to try in my 338 lapua. Haven't had the time to work up a load but finding a starting point has been a mystery. Well see what I come up with unless you do so first

  • @bryantownsend674
    @bryantownsend674 Жыл бұрын

    Please please please test the 6mm ARC with the StaBall powders. Also, test the 30-06 22" barrel with the LRX bullets with the 6.5. Good times there! 😊

  • @swamper2fly
    @swamper2fly Жыл бұрын

    Where can one get primers at a reasonable price so that we can play.

  • @stevewehner9540
    @stevewehner95403 ай бұрын

    How about a comparison of double base powder vs single base powder?

  • @briansupermag3918
    @briansupermag3918 Жыл бұрын

    Just added 8 lb cans of staball 6.5 and Match to load a brand new MPA 6mm creedmoor. All due to your video earlier on these powders. Haven't loaded anything yet but I am almost ready.

  • @jcagle89

    @jcagle89

    Жыл бұрын

    It's super dirty, watch out for carbon rings.

  • @briansupermag3918

    @briansupermag3918

    Жыл бұрын

    @jcagle89 thanks for the heads up but I haven't heard that yet. But I'll keep an eye out for it.

  • @jamestannachion8405
    @jamestannachion8405 Жыл бұрын

    What would be a good powder/load for subsonic loads in 6.5 creedmoor, .308 win, and maybe .45-70?

  • @RMM--uv7uk
    @RMM--uv7uk Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to get my hands on some HD to give it a try. I wanna compare it to ReTuMbO

  • @jcagle89
    @jcagle89 Жыл бұрын

    I bought some Sta-Ball 6.5 last year when everything was out of stock; I found it to be extremely dirty burning. It also seemed to develop carbon rings quicker than most powders. Do the other Sta-Balls have the same issues?

  • @tandtoutdoors5154
    @tandtoutdoors5154 Жыл бұрын

    Which of the 3 powders would you recommend for 6.8 western in the high end weight bullets?

  • @paullanglois5562
    @paullanglois5562 Жыл бұрын

    Id definitely like to see some 6mm ARC gas gun content. Also curious how these new staball powders do in that platform.

  • @Ultimatereloader

    @Ultimatereloader

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @DStein-jn9ls

    @DStein-jn9ls

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree, Paul. Love my 6mm ARC and would be great to add another powder!

  • @spysweeper

    @spysweeper

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! That was my suggestion-6mmARC gas gun. So far it seems like CFE 223 fares best but would like to see if StaBall Match is better!

  • @dhooter
    @dhooter22 күн бұрын

    Varget in my Lyman manual is like a 2g difference between min and max lol

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын

    Are these hard on the throat of the rifle

  • @1mrgriz
    @1mrgrizАй бұрын

    Which Staball would best suited for the 6.5 Grendel

  • @michaelalerich8858
    @michaelalerich8858 Жыл бұрын

    I assuming the test ammunition was dropped not trickled?

  • @TheKrcrook
    @TheKrcrook Жыл бұрын

    Gavin, you mentioned the 25CM was very accurate but did not comment on the accuracy of the 6.5CM loads. Did you see similar results?

  • @homeinthewhiteoaks
    @homeinthewhiteoaks Жыл бұрын

    Work up some loads for the popular standard rounds for this new batch of powders… A video for 243win 30-06 7mm REM mag will get a ton of views as there just isn’t a lot of info out there!

  • @rogerkaufman4685
    @rogerkaufman468510 ай бұрын

    Load data for StaBil 6.5 for 6.5-284 Norma with Hornady ATip 153 grain?

  • @tnreloader8236
    @tnreloader8236 Жыл бұрын

    No load data for 300 win mag ??

  • @Mysgydd
    @Mysgydd2 ай бұрын

    I use StaBall 6.5 in 6.5CM 45.0 grains, 2813 w/ sd of 4.9. I have a question, can I use StaBall 6.5 for 300 prc? I have 8 pounds sitting around.

  • @cadetbooth
    @cadetbooth Жыл бұрын

    Let Go!

  • @jamesackermann4934
    @jamesackermann4934 Жыл бұрын

    What one of these powders would you recommend for the 22-250 an 243

  • @daviddalley5652

    @daviddalley5652

    Жыл бұрын

    Same question.

  • @robertbenton6649
    @robertbenton6649 Жыл бұрын

    Any test with .338LM yet? Is this why they dropped Enduron powders?

  • @Ultimatereloader

    @Ultimatereloader

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea - 338 with StaBALL HD!

  • @V3DMaxDmg
    @V3DMaxDmg Жыл бұрын

    What powder is really good for 300BO Suppressed and non?

  • @Ultimatereloader

    @Ultimatereloader

    Жыл бұрын

    CFE-BLK and H-110 are good for 300BLK subs!

  • @ronenton4037
    @ronenton4037 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Hodgdon would make more of the powders already out before they release new ones.

  • @juliusjames5577

    @juliusjames5577

    Жыл бұрын

    Preach it brotha! It’s like never changing your engine oil but always keeping the chrome spotless.

  • @johnlynch8964
    @johnlynch8964 Жыл бұрын

    I am using it right now in a 6br 28-inch barrel head of velocity of 2780 with Remington seven and a half primers 105 Barnes Match burners

  • @V3DMaxDmg
    @V3DMaxDmg Жыл бұрын

    Also is the Staball 6.5 good for 6.5 subsonic?

  • @Ultimatereloader

    @Ultimatereloader

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't thought to do 6.5 Subsonic- what bullets would you want to use?

  • @kirkmartin2223

    @kirkmartin2223

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah curious as to what cartridge and bullet you would use to make a subsonic 6.5mm anything. Sounds like a stupid idea to me. Along the lines of sub sonic 308win.

  • @V3DMaxDmg

    @V3DMaxDmg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ultimatereloader 140gr

  • @V3DMaxDmg

    @V3DMaxDmg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ultimatereloader I have a 6.5cm with a integrally suppressed 32inch suppressor built by Witt machine

  • @diemos322jones9
    @diemos322jones9 Жыл бұрын

    I've heard that the 6.5 and match produce really bad fouling, is that true? I've been looking all over for hd. During shot show, they said that they were going to flood the shelves with it, I haven't seen it ONCE. ANYWHERE.

  • @JefF-rv7gp

    @JefF-rv7gp

    Жыл бұрын

    Ironically, I found one (1) pound sitting on the shelf in Bass Pro in Maryland. Yep, I bought it ! Never seen it since, anywhere 🤨

  • @diemos322jones9

    @diemos322jones9

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JefF-rv7gp it would be nice of them to just crank out varget, 4350, H1000 and retumbo instead of focusing on "new" powders.

  • @JefF-rv7gp

    @JefF-rv7gp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@diemos322jones9 Totally agreed, but this has probably been im development for a while. I'm a huge Varget fan, but this has me really curious. I also have a pound of 6.5 so I cant wait to start using these, especially since im loading for 30.06, 22-250, and 223. Im curious to see which of the two does better across all 3 calibers !

  • @diemos322jones9

    @diemos322jones9

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JefF-rv7gp don't waste the HD in your 223 or 22-250. HD is specifically designed for magnum cartridges. I've seen a bunch of the match and 6.5 staball. I think you would be way better off waiting for the match for all 3 of those calibers. Match is supposed to be like varget. I just want to get 1lb of HD to try. I still would rather have H1000 or retumbo, but this was supposed to be widely available.🙄 Nobody at any of my LGS have seen any of this stuff. That shot show was just a bunch of bs from some sales rep.

  • @JefF-rv7gp

    @JefF-rv7gp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@diemos322jones9 Shot show is nothing but a sales pitch, but a cool one ! I dont have anything big enough to use HD, I meant 6.5 and Match if I didnt spit that out before. One thing that sucks is the price right now - I think I paid 46.99 for tyat pound of Match, but Varget is just as bad any more !

  • @GONAVYCHIEF
    @GONAVYCHIEF6 ай бұрын

    Hi I'm loading 30 06 Winchester Casings with 6.6 gr StaBALL 6.5, CCI Large Rifle Primers and 165grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullets. Works great. Can't complain.

  • @PC-vq5ud
    @PC-vq5ud Жыл бұрын

    Gidiup

  • @kuronyan3006Ackley
    @kuronyan3006Ackley Жыл бұрын

    😀😃😄😁😆👍‼️

  • @miloisbad
    @miloisbad Жыл бұрын

    LOL. No temp testing again? Your shill rating has been updated from 8 to 9/10. Come on dude.

  • @machinistbytrade
    @machinistbytrade Жыл бұрын

    What's happening with IMR Enduron series of powders lately? Haven't seen any lately...anywhere. Are they still being produced?

  • @leehoughton9068

    @leehoughton9068

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently, not being produced at this time and no published plan for when it will be - not reported as end of line but would not be suprising if suspended indefinitely if another equalvalent is produced and becomes popular. The Staball range may be the hot new versions and meter better using the same recipe