COMPARED: Is The New 2024 Polestar 2 Better Than The Tesla Model 3?
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I own a Model 3 RWD and Polestar 2 Performance. The Polestar 2 is a MUCH better car. Not quite as efficient, but a far better overall driving experience. My wife doesn't care about driving experience, just getting from A to B, so, I drive the Polestar and she drives the Tesla. Everybody's happy. 😃
Tommy!!! The BEST review or comparison of a Polestar 2 and model 3 that exists on the net. I've owned both a Polestar 2 and a model Y and driven model 3. Also have owned 4 additional EVs. My Polestar was by far the best driving car I've owned and you are one of the few reviewers that have stated that. Also, to me ergonomics are a big big factor and the Polestar has way better ergonomics. Tesla has literally the world's worst. The Polestar is lacking HVAC buttons, if it had those it would be almost perfect. Just adjusting the air vents on the Tesla is a major PITA. The wiper stalk and headlight stalk are both ergonomically perfect. And as you said, mirror buttons etc and if you want to flip your side mirror down to see a curb or something like that you just double tap which ever side mirror you want to angle down, no hunting through cumbersome menus on a screen. Everything is right where it should be with the exception of some of the HVAC controls. And at least it has physical defrost buttons which are really the HVAC fearures you may need in a hurry and easy access to. I recently traded my Polestar in for an ID4 as right now an e-CUV is more suited to what I need but man or man I miss driving my Polestar.
Drove the Polestar at the LA auto show....I loved it! Coming from a GTI, it felt less compromised and more comparable than the Tesla. Tesla comes with a learning curb....Polestar feels like home
@panama-canada
3 ай бұрын
Feels like home, baby!
k. everyone getting bent up over the Geely connection... if the US government told the big three go pound sand like they should've in 08, and told the chinese they can sell EVs in north america if they build em here, we would have more EVs at more affordable price points than we do now. and get rid of the emissions carve-outs for big trucks while we're at it, and watch how fast the compact car segment revives.
I have a 2022 Polestar 2 AWD version, didn't opt for the performance version. Did get the upgraded interior option for that generation. I much prefer the Polestar interior to the tesla, we had a Model X before (2019 Raven Refresh). The cooled seats are an important feature for the warmer climates and work great, and the seats are much more comfortable. I used Google Auto for a while, but when carplay came I haven't touched it since. I find that we get the range numbers the car says it has where I found on our Model X that while it said 247 max range I could never get above 180-200 and 200 was white knuckle 2% or less. One thing the Polestar does that I'm not a fan of is when the battery gets below 17-15% it restricts power so bad you can't stay at highway speed, and you become an instant danger, so we never have let it get below 17% as it's pretty scary when you're on the highway and can't go over 20. I don't know if this was fixed, because experiencing it once is more than enough to never try it again.
I was behind your car at a stoplight this morning then i looked up the yt and now im here
Note for Roman - CarPlay works amazing with the Polestar 2, even though the OS is Google. It’s actually one of the few cars to support dual screen CarPlay - guidance is shown on the driver cluster as well, just like the Google Maps system. It’s pretty awesome. If you need wireless, there are adapters. In my experience wired is rock solid reliable compared.
@igloozoo3771
5 ай бұрын
That isn't really anything to brag about though. Wireless Carplay on my 2021 Accord Hybrid works fine.
Polestar does qualify for $7,500 credit if you lease, then you can buy it out later!
Love that Dad is grumpy and Son is optimistic. I enjoy their disagreements because they are both right.
Everyone complaining that they didn’t compare the M3 Highland. Do you know why? Because it’s not for sale in the US yet!!!! I would have preferred a comparison between the base M3 and the base P2 in standard RWD form. Both cars have their pros and cons. The EV tech continues to mature. Remember when Musk launched the M3 and claimed the cars could soon be driverless robo-taxis? Welp, here we are at all new HW/SW. Those 2017 M3s are obsolete. It’s best to lease an EV for now, and get what meets your personal use case.
@PeteLenz
3 ай бұрын
Umm, yes it is
We love our Polestar 2 but they are way too expensive new and EV depreciation is crazy. You can find a used fully loaded Polestar 2 for $30k with 10,000 miles when it was $70k the year before.
@farrazcaeta
5 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what I said! Im 20k upside down in mine... but its turns heads and has been a great car. 50k miles in 1.5 years and its been effortless!
Polestar all day for me. Better build quality and ride.
@TayoAAdetola
5 ай бұрын
Definitely but the motors have been having issues so definitely will take the one that has a more reliable drive train. The polestar 4 looks to be amazing tho.
@scratchymaster
5 ай бұрын
Only better ride if the Ohlins are adjusted soft. But then the polestar wallows on canyon roads.
@starshipdriver8536
5 ай бұрын
I’ll take cybertruck or Model 3 refresh, much quieter and softer suspension.
@andreasl4507
3 ай бұрын
Same for me with a Tesla. Next car is a polestar
@panama-canada
3 ай бұрын
Same money, premium quality throughout. Same range. One second difference in acceleration that you will never use in real life.
I'd much rather have the Polestar. I care for the look and the interior.
Rented a Polestar 2 for a week for driving through the Australian countryside. I am super impressed at how well it handles and the acceleration is instant! Cockpit is also awesome with huge navigation screen. Most importantly, there is no raised rear floor unlike older Tesla models, providing proper comfort for passengers. Only issue is I couldn't figure how to open the door and it takes approx. 1% battery to open the trunk 😅
Great video! Literally the two cars I’m cross shopping
I would say Tesla = minimalist. Volvo/P* = organic modern.
The biggest negative about the Polestar is the narrow cockpit. There's no knee room side to side. The infotainment system is nice, it helps you find the chargers that don't work.
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
For ground up EVs you'd think the industry could do better than that. I'd never own an EV for the same reason outlined in the video. Dad is 6'2, I'm 6'4. The raised floor to accommodate the battery pack make seating comfort too much of a comprise for us tall people.
@TayoAAdetola
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15the polestar 2 isn’t a ground up EV tho.
Great review guys. I always wonder how dinner goes after your banter in reviews 😊.
Highland fixed this issue you have
I never understood the whole argument about how "It's so bad having the speedometer on the center screen. You have to look so far away from the road to see how fast you're going." I never owned a car with an ACTUAL heads-up display (Not the instrument cluster a lot of places now for some stupidly innacurate reason call a HUD), but that would probably be the best option, since the speed would be projected onto the windshield in front of you. But even with a typical instrument cluster, you're still focusing on something much closer to you than the road in front of you every time you glance at it. Could argue that by looking at the top left corner of the center Tesla screen, the road ahead may no longer be in focus, but because there is so little cluttering up the dashboard, and the height of the dashboard is as low as it is, you're still seeing enough of the road in your periphery to more easily notice sudden movement.
@theeternalnightmare2630
4 ай бұрын
It’s controversial yet unnecessary to bicker about. Your points are valid, no matter where your speedometer is, it’s a distraction in some shape or form when you look at it. Unless your speeding its hard not to glance at it and still be attentive to whats happening in front and anywhere else around you.
@normt430
4 ай бұрын
@@theeternalnightmare2630 until the screen goes blank or needs a reboot while driving.
@theElemDragon
4 ай бұрын
@@normt430 pretty sure that something like that could happen to any vehicle that has digital gauges.
@normt430
4 ай бұрын
@@theElemDragon insturment panels behind the steering wheel don't need rebooting like Telsa's screen does.
@theElemDragon
4 ай бұрын
@@normt430 since I picked up my Model Y in May I have yet to ever have to reboot my display (done it a few times to force it to check for any available software updates, but haven't done it yet because I HAD to do it). And you said "until the screen goes blank", too. Are you implying that there's no way a digital instrument cluster can bork itself? Only a Tesla screen can have a fault? 🤣
I just rented a Polestar 2 at Hertz. Almost perfect. Easy to learn. Everything where it should be.
Roman I totally understand what you are saying and I agree with you
That polestar is simply not competitive
The 2024 Highland Tesla 3 will be sold in US 1st quarter of 2024 and improves ride, quietness and technology 5 years ahead of all others except Polestar trailing close by. I ordered a Polestar 2 back in 2020 and tried it before signing and could not fit in the front. I bought a Tesla Y with plenty of space. I am anxious to see the Polestar 4 which should be available 2025. I will have to make a selection between Tesla Y Juniper refresh and Polestar 4. 😮
@bartp7969
4 ай бұрын
I'm 194 cm, how did you not fit? Hahaha
Love the polestar styling particularly the exterior. That front camera though looks like a snow/ice collector.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
Most exterior cameras are heated.
Being from Colorado I didn’t think you’re skip discussing the heat system designs. Does the Polestar use a heat pump for all system as the Tesla does? Very important for everyday use in cold weather, correct?
@tobias_dahlberg
5 ай бұрын
With the Plus package the Polestar 2 has a heat pump
@Cloud30000
5 ай бұрын
Cool weather; heat pumps drastically drop in efficiency as the weather gets colder, since the design needs more power to make the coils colder than the outside temp to work. That’s why you don’t see heat pumps used much in freezing areas, since traditional heating methods work better.
@conrado800
5 ай бұрын
Polestar is a winter beast with its 7000 Watt heater. Designed in Sweden after all 🇸🇪
@TJPavey
5 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000heat pumps are still more efficient in cold. The exchange coil can ice over though, which requires a resistive element to de ice. Because of that, a lot of heat pump systems switch to resistive at a certain temp. Regardless until that switch the heat pump is always more efficient. Air source cooling does get less efficient as the outside air gets warmer but even in 100+ temps the system requires less energy than resistive electric heat which is pretty close to 100%. Technology Connections had a great video on this a couple years ago.
@patrickhornacek8593
5 ай бұрын
That would be using just shy of 10% of the cars battery every hour if true.@@conrado800
Nice comparison and quite fair, thank you, gentlemen! Refreshed Model 3 is much closer to Polestar in interior quality, and has a rear entertainment screen that gives you movies as well as access to seat heater controls. I wonder when we get it in USA?
@paulwujek5208
5 ай бұрын
Also in the new M3 Roman would have been able to set his seat heater on the back seat passenger screen.
@amirtz3342
5 ай бұрын
Except one car cost 15,000 less my son
@Paul-cj1wb
5 ай бұрын
1st quarter of 2024, or very early 2nd quarter. Depending on how quickly they can sell out the current inventory.
@777Outrigger
5 ай бұрын
The Long range AWD Polestar 3 is $64,400. The Dual Motor Performance Model 3 is $51,000. Polestar and Volvo make and are making very compelling EVs, but they should be able to do that with such a price gap. And Tesla is profitable with their Model 3, unlike Polestar.
@amirtz3342
5 ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger nah, Polestar and Volvo are late in the game it took Tesla a decade to make a profit.
Best thing to do is buy a Polestar 2 (a 2022 or 2023) used... you can get a fully loaded one with less than 10k miles on it for very low 30's. I purchased a 2022 when the model 3 didn't have any rebate and the polestar did in 2022... So I got the Fully loaded (I even have the tow package) PS2 for like 61k. and the Model 3 was like 5k more expensive and didn't include the full self-driving. When Tesla pulled the pricing back down it makes it a very hard argument for the polestar 2 from new... But I have my PS2 in getting a service today, and Hertz gave me a Model 3 (base model) and I HATE IT. Feels like a cheap Corolla vs a much more premium vehicle. I also do not like the new grill on the PS2... the 2021-23 looks much better.
Love my Polestar. And the Google maps for navigation is great. Such a nice drive Only thing I really don't like is the cup holders We had someone make us cup holders that clip on the centre console
@markturner8597
5 ай бұрын
The navigation that can be displayed directly in front behind the steering wheel is actually quite cool and useful. I wish they had mentioned that part.
@starshipdriver8536
5 ай бұрын
Tesla also uses google maps but also tells you where the speed cameras are and the supercharger network easily.
@lizaharnish5089
4 ай бұрын
yes Polestar does the same as well as slow downs in traffic @@starshipdriver8536
Useful information with all EVs.. what is the battery warranty / replacement costs
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
Free for 8-years or 100,000 miles for all EVs.
The Tesla one second faster 0-60 really doesn’t seem like enough of a reason to get one over the polestar, which seems better in every other way possible. Also, these reviews always talk about the federal and state credit which isn’t even going to be available at all times and is different per state
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
One second is a huge advantage, but only if you're racing.
@777Outrigger
5 ай бұрын
But the pricing makes a difference. The Long range AWD Polestar 3 is $64,400. The Dual Motor Performance Model 3 is $51,000. Polestar and Volvo make and are making very compelling EVs, but they should be able to do that with such a price gap. And Tesla is profitable with their Model 3, unlike Polestar.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
@@777OutriggerThis is based on CMA platform which is ICE based to work in the XC40/C40 with gas/hybrid and diesel. So there are compromises as seen in the transmission tunnel along with added weight compared to Tesla Model Y which are ground EV's. Yes, range does suffer but this is from a legacy manufacturer so it is over built.
@777Outrigger
5 ай бұрын
@@normt430 True, but I do think the upcoming EX90 and EX30 will be great EVs, they certainly are beautiful, and they will be able to command a premium, which is what Volvo will have to do to make a profit. I think Polestar's upcoming EVs are great too, and they're in the luxury/performance market and they will certainly command a premium. But Tesla is premium enough for me, especially for the price, and Tesla's tech is unmatched. Not to mention, full access to the Tesla Supercharging network. That's certainly a premium charging experience.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger motor Trend just bought a +$70k Model Y! The Model 3 is just a modern day Corolla in California.
Did you have the wheels on that Tesla painted or they looked like that factory?
Thank you for that review, as I've been wanting to know if the Polestar retained the Volvo quality/fit and finish. From your guys' impression, it seems like it is very much in line with what you'd expect from a Volvo (Polestar). The one drawback of the Polestar seems to be that huge console. Does it take up space by the driver and passenger knee area? I would really consider buying the Polestar over the Tesla. I like the looks better as well. Yes the acceleration would be nice in the Tesla, but I think I would find the Polestar to be more than enough.
@colintalkstech
5 ай бұрын
Yes, if you're tall your right knee may rub up against the center console, which is really my only complaint about the vehicle.
@ricksimmons9054
4 ай бұрын
I'm 6' tall and it took about a week to get used to it. I like it now but can completely understand how the console would annoy others.
@suvann540i
4 ай бұрын
for sure has a cockpit feel and can feel cramped for some. i'm 178 cm and i got used to it on my test drive.
5:47 I had the same experience when in was in a backseat of a Lyft polestar car. My head was touching.
If the Polestar had NACS it would be much better argument for it.
@trinitonv8
5 ай бұрын
2024 it will have NAC's
@conrado800
5 ай бұрын
Adapter coming soon
@bartwaggoner2000
5 ай бұрын
@@trinitonv8 more like 2025 from what I hear
@BillB33525
5 ай бұрын
Adapters will convert all CCS cars to NACS until all cars switch over to native NACS connectors eventually.
@BillB33525
5 ай бұрын
The big question is when will Tesla convert their dispensers to V4 with long cables so non Tesla cars on't have to take up multiple spaces.
Here in Europe the Polestar2 performance got 82KwH and 350KW.Seems like another battery in the US
@anthonyklein2210
4 ай бұрын
It is for the dual motor. Single motor rwd has the same one as you though.
@BradMistry
4 ай бұрын
Blasphemy! When do you think they will update the battery for the NA market? Desperate Canadian here waiting
@tamararoberson8060
3 ай бұрын
@@BradMistry The dual motor uses the older 78kWh battery, the single motor uses the newer 82kWh battery. The 78kWh can charge up to 205kW, the 82kWh can charge up to 155kW. They're currently marketing the dual motor as a "free upgrade", selling them at the same price point. It doesn't necessarily make sense to buy the more power-hungry version with the slightly weaker battery, giving it an estimated 54 mile shorter range. But it is an option if you care more about getting that acceleration at the same price. My uneducated guess is that they're trying to get rid of the older batteries by doing this price reduction -- basically the old model battery makes the new model car on clearance. So I'd guess they'll get through them this year and put the new battery in the 2025 car. I can't be certain, so you'd have to check when the 2025 specs are announced.
@tamararoberson8060
3 ай бұрын
(Also, since Europe was brought up, the standard version in Europe is 69kWh, with a charging speed of 135kW. The standard version is not available in the US -- it's long-range one motor or long-range dual motor. The Canadian models look to be the same as the US models as far as batteries go.)
@Bugkickr
28 күн бұрын
@@tamararoberson8060 in Europe (Germany) I see the technical details on the webpage of Polestar saying that the SRS (standard range single motor) has 69 kWh battery, the LRS (long range single) has 82 kWh battery - same as LRD and LRDP. 69kWh battery can charge up to 135 kW and the 82 kWh battery can charge up to 205 kW. Thats funny that you have different technical specs.
im; a tesla guy, i am on my second. but i rented a polestar from hertz and LOVED it. very premium. would like to own one
I do love that Tesla red. Love that color...
Highland doesn't have an instrument cluster. Or stalks.
15:52 the sounds coming from the back seat 🤣
Get the VULVA
Grocery flip isn't a standard in base models. I forget which pack is needed. There are three "packs" with Polestar. Plus, Pilot, Performance and then you choose either Single Motor or Dual AWD. Dual AWD makes it 400+hp even without the performance package.
@v.j.1017
5 ай бұрын
Comes with plus. Performance adds no HP btw
@v.j.1017
5 ай бұрын
Only if u upgrade the software which is 5000+1200 for the performance pack first then the upgraded software
Ask Randy Pobst if buttons and switches are needed!
No Radar, no Ultrasound proximity sensors, no 360 vision, no stalks, no BSM lights in side mirrors, no radar cross-traffic warning, no driver instrument screen, no hatch, no SiriusXM = No dice …….
@apb1236
5 ай бұрын
Barely-working app, no memory/non power adjust steering, horrid huge and old looking key fobs, no sentry mode, atrocious 360 camera quality, buggy Android Automotive OS which requires a reboot every hour on the hour, zero meaningful software updates from the crap developers (which are riddled with bugs still), very obsolete processing power=no future meaningful features, can’t show 2 different app features on the center screen at the same time (I.e. maps and music), cramped back seat with huge floor hump, less space than the 3 despite the hatch, no reliable charging infrastructure, Chinese, overpriced yet horrible depreciation, no tax credit. 2021s with less than 30k miles are selling for less than $30k…that’s Land Rover depreciation! 😮 Now, watch some clown post “I don’t have those problems 😢” right after this.
@TroySavary
5 ай бұрын
A Tesla stan bringing up depreciation. Hilarious.
@apb1236
5 ай бұрын
@@TroySavary a polehole stan coping about his depreciation. Are you Australian? You’re likely as upside down as one 😂
@AddyKnows
5 ай бұрын
Cry
@tonyn3227
5 ай бұрын
Yeah none if that, but everything you need
Roman made perfect sense in his comments about the minimalist aesthetics that Volvo pioneered, but Tesla capitalized and "owns." I get it.
@octolil
Ай бұрын
He then went on to complain that the Tesla was too minimalist and couldn't heat his seats. Hardly owning it.
Given the extra storage with a frunk and under the rear hatch, give us a spare tire!!!
Watched a review on the M3 Highland and I agree with some other that said it's a much better comparison. Hopefully it's released to North America in 24
Parked next to a Polestar yesterday at Target and was shocked at how small it looks (inside and out.) I have a MYP though so not sure how the M3 compares. Looking at the price the M3 and maybe even the MY seem to be better values.
@Momo_8k
4 ай бұрын
That long, high center console does not help matters either. Smaller rear seats than M3 as well. Only wins space comparison in the trunk…
The fit and finish on the polestar is better than the model Y we had. Also I just read that due to all the Chinese origin parts the Tesla model 3 are losing federal tax credit after 1/1. So that’s 7500 more to Tesla price, still less costly. I like the look of the new model 3 and Tesla is starting to really mature and it has the supercharger network, but for me living in a cold state I won’t rely on a car that does everything from a giant lcd like the Tesla. The new one requires you to slide car into drive on screen and has no directional stalks either. For many that won’t be a big deal but for me as someone who’s been driving for 30 years it’s more of an adjustment. I also missed a hud or gauge cluster
you mentioned that polestar doesn't work on the tesla supercharger network. That is not true. I just got a 2024 model actually when this video came out and my first big charge was at a tesla supercharger. there are no other types of chargers in my area. Been using it whenever my trickle charge at home doesnt quite fill it up. gotta find the superchargers with the adapter I guess
@cascorcoran5118
19 күн бұрын
Polestars and every non Tesla EV can only use version 3 superchargers and every generation after.
The new Highlander model has a screen in the back row to help with the seat heating for rear seat passengers. Also getting ventilated seats in the front. There are alot of cars better than the Tesla out there, what they can't do is compete with Tesla’s on price.
Every electric car guy wants to talk about 0-60. Which is great I guess….I guess.
Happy to see everyone’s finally catching on to Polestar. I knew about them before they IPO’d. People are late haha.
Pfffft. Use the loophole and LEASE the P2, collect the 7500 tax credit along with any Costco $1-2k rebate.
At 6’3”, the Model 3 was just too small. Loved everything else about it, so maybe a Model Y would fit me. I’ll be test driving a Polestar 2 in Denver soon! Wondering if it will be as tight
@deansmits006
5 ай бұрын
Check back here if you can after you do drive it. Most cars have large adjustability for the front seats, so maybe it will fit you?
@tjwatson0403
5 ай бұрын
If the Polestar proves too small, try test driving a Volvo XC40 recharge. They have a little more room
@brianmills4891
5 ай бұрын
look at how narrow the cockpit is in this video. Tommy looked like he was put into the driver seat of the Polestar with a shoehorn. didn't look very roomy for longer trips, especially between the door and console.
@hereigoagain5050
5 ай бұрын
Try the Volvo XC40.
@brendandonegan2150
5 ай бұрын
6'4" here. The model Y is perfect for me.
I see Polestar is building on current trend in Volvo design of making a car that's pretty beautiful and nice in many ways, but ultimately not competitive in the price department. Put more simply, across every category, Volvo makes a nice vehicle, but for $50 or $60k, there are simply so many other options that bring more to the table. That's how I view Polestar right now. I love me a Scandinavian sled, I love me a Volvo, I grew up driving them. But when it came time for me to spend my money on a new family car, I couldn't justify their high price tags.
@777Outrigger
5 ай бұрын
The Long range AWD Polestar 3 is $64,400. The Dual Motor Performance Model 3 is $51,000. Polestar and Volvo make and are making very compelling EVs, but they should be able to do that with such a price gap. And Tesla is profitable with their Model 3, unlike Polestar.
Check out the awesome polestar leasing on this model. Can’t beat it.
Really should compare when the New Model 3 Highland
I still love the Polestar's design and interior, Tesla's technology under the skin is cool and all, but their interiors and design language to me, just don't compare. Not to mention the build quality of Tesla's cars still leave something to be desired. It'll be nice when the other manufacturers switch to NACS, to get access to Tesla's supercharging network. Another comparison I'd make, as a suggestion, throw the BMW i4 into the mix, since it technically competes in that segment too.
@farrazcaeta
5 ай бұрын
PS2 and i4 are great comparison... the back seat in the i4 is way smaller than the PS2 but I like that the sun roof opens!
Polestar is a great car. Can’t wait for the new models also. Amazing!!!!😊
I'd Choose The Polestar as it looks and Feels like a Regular Car
Nice comparison, 2022 vs 2024 cars. I wonder, you have both cars, why don't you do a 500 - 800 mile test of both cars driven at the same time in the same conditions and set once for all the differences in efficiency between the two ? You always say : Tesla doesn't match its EPA, when EPA is not important. What's important is the real range you can drive when you need it. And 270 miles in the Tesla Performance AWD (real world as you acknowledge it) is more than 220 miles in Polestar2 Performance AWD, which in a 1000 miles run equates to one more charge stop in the Polestar every 3 stops in a Tesla.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
A 700 miles to the coast for us is like 45 minutes difference between Tesla and the rest.
I absolutely despise the minimalist interior on a Tesla. The new ones don't even have a physical turn signal or gear selector. Having to lift your arm up and look at a screen to switch gears is just complete BS. The polestars interior at least has a proper gear selector, and physical buttons for common use things. Not sure if that justifies the price difference though.
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
LOL, I just got through writing several vary long passage expressing my disdain regarding the exact same thing. Even worse, reviewer that say it as if its something to appreciate or to covet. In fact, all I see is cost cutting. All those popular things that Tesla does is the exact reason I will never own one: Sunroof that does not open All the basic controls accessed through the infotainment No instrument display Weird shaped steering wheels Economy car interior design
@Stuka87
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15 Yup, agree 100%
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15the Volvo XC40 Recharge, based on the same CMA platform, does have a sunroof!
We just got a Model 3 Performance, the price was too nice to turn down. The non-Tesla EV market won't really be compelling for us until they can charge directly on NACS, interesting days ahead.
Getting the polestar as the next car. I got Tesla 3 at the moment. 2019.
For 69,000 I would buy a model S. Not sure why they compared the pole star with a car that is around 15k cheaper or even more with incentives!
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
Simple, they're not comparing price. And because its possible to be cheaper and still be in the same category.
@amirtz3342
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15 not a fair comparison
No matter how good other EVs get, Tesla still has one unassailable advantage: the supercharger network. In the UK they actually have 2: Tesla chargers are also cheaper than any other network.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
But 90% of Americans charge at home...
@BogeyTheBear
5 ай бұрын
'Unassailable'?! Do you know what they're doing next year?
@hishamg
5 ай бұрын
@@normt430 same here, but sooner or later you have to do a road trip. I do a 200 mile trip every month or 2 to visit my mother. She lives in a flat (apartment) so I can’t charge when I get there. Tesla is gradually opening their network to non-Teslas, so far though these charging stations are in out of the way areas. Meanwhile the non-Tesla chargers in motorway services cost more per mile than diesel. I’m not saying this as Tesla fan, I can’t afford one.
The new refresh and cybertruck has the rear screen to turn on heated seats.
Polestar confidently says "high class "
Why not against a M3 Highland?
Probably why the P2 tanks so much as a used car, just get one a year or two old!
That's why european EVs don't sell well in the US - they are either equipped similar to Tesla with a much higher price tag, or priced similar to Tesla with a much lower specs.
We've owned a 2022 Polestar 2 for almost two years, equipped much like the one you tested, minus the performance pack. It's been a great car so far for us. When we bought ours it did qualify for the full $7500 tax credit, sadly with the "inflation reduction act" that went away. We've put on about 16k trouble free miles. I was nervous going to an EV in MN, especially since my wife is NOT a tech person, but she's loved the Polestar 2 and said just the other day how much she likes to drive it. We do have ice vehicles to drive if we need to, but for 98% of our driving the EV works great.
Strange that you chose to do this knowing that a 2024 model 3 performance refresh was on the way.
If they were closer in price I´d take the Polestar but they dont so Tesla it is.
Can you redo this one for the model 3 refresh.
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
Fair, depends on the type of comparison. There is nothing unfair about this one. Both these cars are for sale.
@vladimirdoyle3934
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15 true but they were comparing a refreshed polestar with the non refreshed model 3
@vladimirdoyle3934
5 ай бұрын
@@krane15 I've never said that it's unfair
Polestar has very little noise intruding the cabin - that’s true.
FYI, the rear seat heaters can be turned on with the command "set left/right/middle rear seat heater to high/mid/low". Voice commands work VERY well in a Tesla.
Roman's grandpa rant about Tesle pioneering tech that Polestar developed was pretty insane. And i have to say that i am never going to buy one of the cars with controls on a touchscreen. I want the knobs that i can touch and move without taking my eyes off the road. All that tech BS just isn't utile for me. I wish there were auto journalists who understood how to live without a smartphone.
Yikes, man. Just say "let rear seat-heat on". That's all you gotta do to turn them on. ... The windshield in my Model Y started unexpectedly fogging up recently. I just said "windshield defrost on" and voíla! It was on. No fumbling for redundant, wasteful, and unsafe buttons.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
Tesla has rear heated seats?
@777Outrigger
5 ай бұрын
@@normt430 Yes, all 3 seats.
A USED Polestar 2 is the best deal in EVs right now. Plenty to be had for 30k! Even a bit under that.
@apb1236
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re crazy to even consider one new…they depreciate by like 40% in a year…
@thrash123ful
5 ай бұрын
And the year after you buy it it will be 20k! haha If you want to waste money go for it.
Polsstar looks better❤
Doesn’t the AWD Polestar SUCK on trips compared to the Tesla though? I was messing around in A Better Route Planner, and it looks like a Polestar would add hours to the trips I make a few times a year compared to the Tesla M3/Y. Range, charging speed aren’t good enough from Polestar IMO
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
This is based on CMA platform which is ICE based to work in the XC40/C40 with gas/hybrid and diesel. So there are compromises as seen in the transmission tunnel along with added weight compared to Tesla Model Y which are ground EV's. Yes, range does suffer but this is from a legacy manufacturer so it is over built.
I dont get why almost everyone chooses the dual motor top spec all the options polestar 2 and compares prices with a model 3 without all the options. You had a $4k seat option that you didnt need to do!!! First off how about talk about the new RWD configuration that most people would prefer due to longer range, faster charging and cheaper. I just leased a rwd with pilot and plus packs so i can take advantage of the federal rebate and took advantage of a couple other deals and the purchase price was around $47k....a little misleading saying its not worth the $69k price. Ill take my still respectable 5.9 second 0 to 60 I never actually do, my longer range, faster charging and my savings over the top spec dual motor any day of the week. All Im saying is its hard to get real information when all the tesla fans choose the best case scenario for the tesla and ignore a bunch of things that actually matter to people when they are researching what car they want. How many people actually buy the top spec cars! Talk about the entry level ones and how they compare.
Driving a Tesla feels like part of a fleet with it never changed the exterior for so long so all model 3 look identical LOL I would feel better with the Polestar if I was spending so much money for a new EV
Seats comfort is like shoe comfort. Unless you have one tailored to your body the comfort will be hit and miss.
Roman is so loose with his info. Highland absolutely has no instrument cluster and neither does the cyber truck. lol they’re like the two most reported evs in the internet.
Good Ole word salad Roman..
I would get the long range two wheel drive P2 2024, lease it, get the $7500 credit.
I completely disagree about the idea that Tesla owns the minimalist interior design and Volvo/Polestar look like they are copying Tesla. But I'm kinda old, so maybe some kids might actually think that. But I also think that Tesla has minimalist interiors that comes across as cold and cheap. Volvo/Polestar have Scandinavian design interiors that are mostly minimalist but still warm and cozy.
4:30 damn the closing mechanism of that Tesla is crazy bad
I trust Tesla's hardware support more. Luxury cabin for polestar. But if I needed car, I would just buy tesla long range with FSD & 2K$ acceleration boost.
1:32 That ain't Swedish. Polestar means "the star over the pole" as in all other stars seem to revolve around it in the sky. Same deal with 'Lodestar' being another name for the North Star, as it is the star that magnetic lodestones seem to point towards.
@krane15
5 ай бұрын
You forgot something -- literal translation vs actual meaning.
@BogeyTheBear
5 ай бұрын
Definite _"'Frag-il-ee.' Must be Italian..."_ vibes going on there.
Remember, in the refresh model 3's, they will have a screen in the back as well, and they improved the quietness and ride quality.
@gregb1599
5 ай бұрын
We test drove one today, 13 year old daughter in back seat had zero interest in the rear display. She just used her phone and Chromebook. Without ultrasonic sensors, anything not seen by the camera will get hit. In the beginning, I thought the push button indicators were ok until we hit the dreaded roundabout, then instantly missed the stork! Engaging Autopilot is so terrible having to double push the right button! Yes, it is much quieter, but there are so many false alarms! Car is quieter, but the warning alarms sound much louder!
@theeternalnightmare2630
4 ай бұрын
@@gregb1599so should i stick with a 2023 Tesla Model 3 Performance in 2027-2028?
Such a cute dad son pair❤❤❤
A Model S would have been a better comparison. Polestar has some exciting EVs for 25/26.
I do wish that real buttons would make a comeback. I hate doing everything through a screen.
@bartwaggoner2000
5 ай бұрын
Sure, but Tesla is going towards autonomy so buttons are not needed or wanted. This is why you need to use the software to open the glove box, even.
@normt430
5 ай бұрын
All hands off, voice control for the Polestar.
@BogeyTheBear
5 ай бұрын
Never trust a vehicle that requires a functioning fuse box in order to open the glove compartment.
@richfarfugnuven6308
5 ай бұрын
@BogeyTheBear I may own an electric car one day as I love the speed, but will always have an old diesel truck that the government can't shut off when my social credit score falls...
@bartwaggoner2000
5 ай бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear true, but interesting factoid - Tesla doesn’t use fuses!
Them started to argue is funny af.
Too bad US still don't have Model 3 highland. It is so much better! Polestar 2 have nothing on the new Model 3, only that hatchback can be an advantage. Surprised you found the Polestar 2 premium, when I tried this new one last month we was very disappointed in it. Loved the sound system and that it is now RWD instead of FWD, but there is very hard plastic everywhere. Take a look at the sun visors they are worse than my 15 year old Hyundai. Looking forward to seeing these two head to head again once you guys also have a new Model 3 across the pond.
You need winters on that polestar