This is the exact kinda build I figured these GPU's are really meant for. I don't see them as "gaming" GPU's, but more like an All-In-One desktop that you can game on.

@MauriceCool

4 ай бұрын

it get's 60 FPS or red dead

@3tech

4 ай бұрын

@@Potatobitz true

@Ancient_West

4 ай бұрын

You can get 60fps on red dead for a LOT less though... if thats the goal.@@MauriceCool

@Ancient_West

4 ай бұрын

My main point being that "buy this now and get a GPU later" is always thrown around for these APU's. But in this case, where would a GPU fit? @@Potatobitz

@theinktician

4 ай бұрын

@@Ancient_West in a bigger case 😂 and if you meant literally, then for streamers and people that record their games for content. Always helps out

man ive had the same old build since 2019, and you get to build something new everyday! you are truly blessed @ETA PRIME

Cannot thank you enough for these several 8600G and 8700G videos 👍 Nobody else is covering these superb Rdna3 APUs as extensively. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.

@chromerims

4 ай бұрын

Lately, I am less excited about the nerfed 8x PCIe 4.0 typical of these APUs. Still interesting chips but would like to see a version with 16x PCIe 5.0 slot. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.

Excited for next year tbh

I'm considering making one of these GPU-less PC's for my living room so I don't have to spend an arm/leg on a secondary comp. Thanks for the build!

@helloukw

4 ай бұрын

Have you tried steam link? Stream your Steam games to living room from the main PC.

@LuminousSpace

4 ай бұрын

how about non steam games and delay?@@helloukw

@david61391

4 ай бұрын

@@helloukw Short version of a longer story: I have tried Steam Link, but I get a little too much latency than I care to deal with because of how my network is set up. I appreciate the idea though!

@christianmino3753

4 ай бұрын

The price of a secondhend dedicated GPU and cheap CPU is a more affordable way to get BETTER performance than these new APU builds. The only reason you want these is to make a super compact, very light gaming build. Have you not watched ANY of the other videos covering these APU's?

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

Paying ITX tax and an expensive AMD CPU to save on a cheap GPU makes very little sense.

Such a great walk through

You can get away with even smaller case as there are some cases with external laptop style power supply & internal adapter included. Some of them even have slot for slim optical drive, so you can have a true "old school" console / emulation station. It is crazy how easy building "a console sized" gaming PC has become. Also... am I the only one waiting for those new AMD APUs to be used in Minisforum motherboards ?

@davefroman4700

4 ай бұрын

This series of chips is going to be in high demand. HP and Dell are going to be all over it. As will the likes of Walmart and the entire global south. Which is good news to a bottom feeder in the market like me. I know I will be able to find one in 3-4 years for $100 somewhere. And the price of AM5 parts will come down a lot by then too.

@Sycaid

4 ай бұрын

These are desktop APU's, so the likely hood of Minisforum or other MiniPC manufacturers in putting them in their little machines is highly unlikely, especially when they also have machines with the 780m iGPU available at more reasonable prices. A MiniPC with the 7840HS cpu is your best bang-for-your-buck and that isn't changing anytime soon. Maybe next year, but you're better off waiting for Zen5, laptop varients.

@Neopulse00

4 ай бұрын

Also waiting for the Strix Point Halo to come out with the 40 CUs rumored. But if it does come out as they say in 2H 2024, then Minisforum should have them for pre-order in 2H 2025. Although, I keep reading how Minisforum is known to not update their motherboards. So one is hesitant to purchase something with that in mind.

Can't wait for ASRock to make an AM5 version of the desk mini. Would make for a great tiny pc with loads of power at a reasonable price, as was the case with the original AM4 deskmini at the time.

I can’t wait for it come out in a laptop form

Inwin has an all in one case with PSU and it’s perfect for this kind of build.

Nice video Thank you

Light gamers and prob for those looking for a low power build. This actually saves so much $

That case isn't bad, that extra slot on the top rear I can use it for a power plug to connect external hard drives to.

i built this unit, runs Elden Ring really good.

Perfect for somebody like me. Old but tech savvy and not too much into games. Come to think about it, I would prefer a laptop built with the same or similar APU.

This is good for the new console players jumping to PC.

Nice built, great review. Perhaps I missed it, but the only thing I would like to know is what this actually in total costs with the spec used in this video.

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

Not worth it.

@RaffyART1995

4 ай бұрын

at least 600 dollars.

Would love to see the 8600g or 8700g build with steam os. To see how it plays and interested build my self in the coming months

I might build myself something like this as my second machine and use the ser5 I'm using now for a low power server or something. It will be interesting to see what AMD comes out with once they move past the 780m, this isn't quite there yet for most gaming @1080p but it's not that far from it either.

Nice video, thanks 4:13: I didn't understand: Wraith Spire cooler fits this case or not?

@tanmaypanadi1414

4 ай бұрын

The AMD Wraith Spire is 71 mm tall, while the AMD Wraith Stealth is 54 mm tall. it should fit according to the case description. "CPU cooler: no taller than 75mm when install a M.2 drive; no taller than 60mm when install a 2.5” SSD on top; no taller than 45mm when install a 3.5” HDD on top."

Really tempted by something like this but I feel like strix will offer a better 1080p experience.

Imagine if they use CAMM standard on thin&light, mini pc and handheld. We can get a faster/similar ram speed with lower power consumption than standard lpddr.

Its crazy that APU's are now able to run Cyberpunk 2077 that well

This is about around I think almost $650 usd for almost everything the crazy part is you can just buy a beelink mini pc with the same igpu AMD Radeon 780M for almost the at around 600 with everything in it...... and its smaller the only con about going with beelink or a mini pc is that you cant swap out all the parts like the one prime is building.... if something happens to one of the pc parts you can just replace it decisions decisions lol nice work eta prime!

@omegaPhix

4 ай бұрын

Just because it's the "same" IGPU model doesn't make it have similar performance

Could you please make a video with ChimeraOS with the 8600G/8700G, it would be interesting to see how it performs. And as always a great video

Could you please test ChimeraOS with this 8600G or 8700G?

@heirtothethrone000

4 ай бұрын

That's the review I'm waiting on with these APUs

I would just like to thank you for how your audio starts out low and slowly ramps up to a comfortable level. Too many folks have their audio blaring loud at the start of their videos.

Hey ETA Prime ! Can you consider doing a simple speedometer, jmeter tests on these PCs with the 8000 series ?

Mini pcs tend to overheat a lot when gaming on them, theyre only for great web surfing and htpc purposes. Desktop apus however is great for those who dont want to worry about temperatures at high wattage performances.

You should make a build with a fighter jet pilot switch for a tiny but powerful itx lol

Maybe you can do a comparison video between the minisforum um780 xtx and the new 8000 series apu's.

Sup Prime! Would having 64gb ddr5 at 6400mt/s help or is the mt/s the 'bottleneck' if you will? Cheers for the videos pal!

Are you going to put out the video with the 8200mt Viper ram for the 8700G or was it bait ????

bring on the asrock desk mini for AM5, perfect for this apu!

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

Not with its 120W psu, gonna blow off.

Can you show how well this build works with ChimeraOS (both with standard Steam Library and emulators)?

im gonna save some money for this build. can the case add a vertical riser for small gpu?

Can you run Spyro Reignited on this with mid or high settings?

Nice video

I was looking at this and made me wonder about their next graphics cards, which supposidly will have their npus on them like this apu has an npu on it. So taking the raytracing off of their stream processors and moving it to the npu... :S

Hey, do you know if there are any aftermarket fans that will fit and might give better performance?

Emulation video for the 8600g please.

@chronology556

4 ай бұрын

Yes.

@zettgecko3887

3 ай бұрын

yes please

What's the fastest ram speed you can get with this Gigabyte A620i and which ram module did you use?

13%off at 129 bucks on Amazon for the mobo. Not bad

will you be testing the r5 8500g too

The APU part in the 8600G and 8700G sure could be better, judging by tests that others made. I really love the idea though, especially with SFF builds for gaming or just simple media consumption.

@gustavo9758

3 ай бұрын

It's literally the best iGPU right now, Intel doesn't have anything remotely similar. But yeah, technically you're right, it could be better (and will be according to AMD's roadmap for 2025 and 2026)

Pls do this too with the 8500g

Power consumption idle ?

Hey. do you think this board can support the new vipers ram 7200mhz ?

I find that the benchmark scores are useless if there's nothing to compare them to. As a noob doing research, it would be great to compare the scores with CPU/GPU in a similar price range or its competitor.

I feel like this should be awesome. But for $600 you could build a banger pc for sure using used parts for that price. Only thing this is really good for is the novelty of being tiny.

Do you sell your builds afterwards?

Hi, I have a request. Could you try it as a media center ? I want to know if it can run smoothly 4k av1 and beyond

The A09 can support a LP GPU tho... could you put one in there veen with that large 54mm cooler?

Could a LP GPU fit in here and if so do you have any recommendations for that?

how loud is the power supply thought?

ik the main point of APUs like these are all in one small form factor PCs. but would it be cool to use these with hopes of a future GPU? i was plannning to get this and make use of the integrated graphics until i get money again to splurge on a GPU

at the moment I only use an APU and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. I play my game at 55FPS medium settings. and I play counterstrike just fine. There's an entire industry and market of people who DON'T play AAA games. for those people this is perfect. this is also perfect for internet cafes that want to let people play cs2 or Valorant. not everything has to be so high end. people have high end GPUs and still aren't the best at what they do. Intel and Nvidia have always left budget people behind.

@gustavo9758

3 ай бұрын

This 100%. Thanks.

Would the stock cooler of the 8700G fit in that case?

I noticed this case has a bracket for a single slot GPU. If you put in an RX 6400, how would it compare to the iGPU?

This one has only a 760M GPU. A much smaller mini-pc with Ryzen 7840HS and Radeon 780m is faster for gaming.

when is the S24 ultra emulation video coming ?!!

Those PSUs only have a 6 month warranty which you only find out upon request, or, only 30 day return (from invoice being produced)

Can we make a 1L mini pc with this cpu.. Something like 1l lenovo thinkcentre tiny ?

Thanks for the vidéo! Does someone have an idea of the max power consumption at full load and the idle power consumption?

What BIOS settings did you use for this benchmark? Please Send me a screenshot. I had the same question in X.

Flashing the motherboard is simple. Don't let it scare you off if you are interested in this build.

any recommendation for flex psu? i couldn't find one. any link from aliexpress i would appreciate it or amazon ofc

Did you have to do anything special to get the 8600g to work with the a620i? I have a similar build but cant get this thing to post properly even after flashing the latest bios.

Got the Beelink GTR7 7840hs (zen4+rdna2 laptop cpu fed desktop power) for 599.99 on amazon after coupon code. Friend asked for link and today its officially on sale for 599. same price as my coupon code. Gonna be awesome while im stuck in bed. My steamdeck has been great but can't play everything I want to, due to limitations.

@zealwing

4 ай бұрын

Yeah this build right here is about the same as the beelink on sale at 599 good deal

@goblinphreak2132

4 ай бұрын

@@zealwing 8 compute unit 8600g loses to 12 compute unit 7840hs.... And technically the laptop part has 2 more cores and 4 more threads.... Sure its a laptop part.... From AMDs website.... Default TDP: 35-54W AMD Configurable TDP (cTDP):35-54W So ALMOST a 65w part. The 8600g IS and 65w part. A 6/12-8 isnt gonna beat a 8/16-12 laptop part with a few extra watts.... His 8600g build is $660 before tax.... Where as I paid 599 for a faster PC that's already built, just plug and go....

@zealwing

4 ай бұрын

HI goblin meant to say that you did great getting the beelink for 600..thats what I would have done....lol my wording came out wrong, @@goblinphreak2132

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but really annoying fan noise on mini pcs. Had a beelink gtr5, returned it insufferable. Also, every single part of the itx build is reusable or can be upgraded.

@zealwing

4 ай бұрын

@@pranze3484 oh man that sucks but your right building one like this might’ve better when you can change your hardware anytime you want good luck on your next build.

Hi can you do a video review of this model kuycon monitor with full alternative choice on kuycon g34w vs kuycon P40U so you know if it's worth buying their monitor

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

No

i wanna try a build like this soon but the power supply in the video is not the one in the link in the description. Help?

can we still like put a discrete gpu inside of it? i see the slot, i mean just in case tho i wanna better perfomance 😂

I appreciate you going budget.. good job bro

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

lol, this is not budget at all for what you end up with.

@thrivingentrepreneur

4 ай бұрын

@@5GRobo yeah lol, noticed when i saw the cpu price

What happened to the 8600G Amazon listing?

I miss when this channel did budget emulation videos. Now it’s just expensive pc builds.

I've a question. Is Radeon Super Resolution available in this apu or all amd apus?

Porbably more prudent to upgrade to a 8700G instead of spending extra on a little faster RAM if you want more graphics performance.

Do you guys think the difference in performance will be relevant if using 6000 RAM instead of 6400?

Can you try ChimeraOS on these 8600g & 8700g?

@etaprime can I use a 8700g in this build? I'm looking to make an 8700 build but not ball out like your last one 😅

Nice

5:33 yesterday I had a lot to say about this video instruction....but now my head is cool and I can act without anger. Guys If you try to repeat this build measure everything twice, and it's better to PUT THE POWERSUPLY FIRST!! My ass was on fire...

Thanks for the videos, mate. Unfortunately, AMD's own cooler is not enough for this chip. I would definitely go for a decent cooler. Even mid-level ones make a difference around 20 °C. Also, don't forget that this APU has a good overclocking potential.

Tiny and mini pcs are the future of a Pc gaming! 😮

@gingyman99

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't understand why people buy/make large size PC. They both got the same power and plus it saves desk space

@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184

4 ай бұрын

@@gingyman99 none of those "mini gpus" are considered high end or hell midrange.

@rothein436

4 ай бұрын

​@gingyman99 There are a lot of reasons. More upgradablity Bigger psu Bigger gpu Bigger cpu cooler Colder Quieter Flex psu cost more Mini itx case cost more Mini itx motherboard cost more

@baoquoc3710

4 ай бұрын

@@gingyman99 people have relentless pursuit of utmost performance. Therefore Tower PCs never die.

@Jack-xx3qg

4 ай бұрын

brokie tell me u homeless without telling me u homeless@@gingyman99

Ram at 6400 speed? Where do I even buy something like that? BTW, is the stock cooler loud?

My life revolves around eta prime video releases. I love your handheld and egpu videos. I'm looking to get an egpu for my Legion Go.

@Mosestylez

4 ай бұрын

Dam man... You need to find a new life, asap!

@danielhulan3058

4 ай бұрын

@Mosestylez you're telling me! I'm finishing up a graduate degree and I hold a full time job as a mental health professional. I don't have time for a life.

@Mosestylez

4 ай бұрын

@@danielhulan3058 I also have a degree in economics, have a full time job, house etc, but at least mine life doesn't revolve around ETA prime's video 😅

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

@@danielhulan3058 Cog in the machine! Build a family you could be proud of instead of these meaningless toys.

@danielhulan3058

4 ай бұрын

@5GRobo no not cog in the machine. It's all about who hold what to be important. Who says that I don't already have a family that I am proud of while still getting these "meaningless toys". It's meaningless to you but it makes me happy.

I would like to see these 8000 chips running Steam OS on them.

I do wonder how FFXIV runs on that.. and what benchmark score it gets.

I would like to see the 8600g vs 7600 with say a 4070 super and/or 7900 xt and see what are the difference in fps at say 1440/4k. Basically is there a big difference between the two since the 7600 can be bought for about $30 less than the 8600g.

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, 7600 will be about 3x faster

If I were to buy this or 8700G what’s a good GFX card to pair with this. I’m running an i7-3770 and 1660 Super.

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

Bro, you don't buy this with a GFX. Just build a 12100f or a 12400f system. That's where the value is and with the money you save, you can get a good GPU.

You're running this with just the APU, right? I'm wondering if I could get similar or better results from a less powerful CPU (a Ryzen 5 5500), but a more powerful dedicated video card.

@erikkarsies4851

4 ай бұрын

GN did this with a 12100F and a RX6600. Totally blows the 8700G out of the competition.(let alone the 8600G) At these prices it's only desirable for small systems and then you pay a premium for the ITX mainboard also. (about 70 dollars in my country)

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, otoh the case is about 35, that's really cheap. ITX mobos prices are maddening in EU though, 200€ for this 129$ board... Wtf.

IS this build better than the Beelink Ser7 Max? I mainly want to run ps3, 360, switch and steam games like MK1 and Tekken 8.

@APOWER385

4 ай бұрын

What's the fps you'd get ?

@Mysteriozone

4 ай бұрын

@@APOWER385 Whatever looks/plays decent just as long as I can play and enjoy the games.

Does Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP fit with this setup?/

What GPU would you even pair with the 8700G?

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

None. Makes no sense. Just get a 3600 or something.

Very great build. I exactly want to build this! But I highly recommend to use FSR instead of RSR if its possible. RSR is the solution if the game doesen't support FSR. Like Palworld for example.

@5GRobo

4 ай бұрын

Waste of money

@masedaddy26

4 ай бұрын

@5GRobo doesn’t look so bad to me. I see you replying a lot that this is a waste, but could you really get that much performance out of a build with a gpu for the same price? Looks like this would be around 600 total and I feel like you could o my get a Ryzen 5 5000 series with a 6600xt for that and it doesn’t seem like that would be miles ahead of this. Take into account the form factor and everything and this seems pretty decent.

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

Dude, 6600xt is 2-3x faster. A ryzen 3600 would be plenty enough for it. And 16G ddr4 costs nothing.

@Crustenscharbap

4 ай бұрын

@@pranze3484 Right and it doesn’t need so much electricity. I habe a 5600G and a RX6600. Runs like a rocket. But this PC is interesting

@pranze3484

4 ай бұрын

@@Crustenscharbap sure, and I want one eventually for home office when temps are high, and to bring to friends for couch gaming where 95% of what we play is indies or emulation. But at around 500€ overall, not 700+ :D

I just built this unit using the parts listed below. I have questions.;

@mr.dilanger

4 ай бұрын

Can you list the power supply you used in the video? The one listed works fine but it is so messy it the case.

Hi what is the fps on diablo 4?

Bios updates via usb with no cpu or a non compliant but compatable cpu , should have been a standard 20 years ago !

This is very nice and all, but I wished that AMD would release a chip with 4 cores, quad threads, and the full 780m iGPU, rather than this cut down iGPU. A replacement is needed for the 2400G/3400G

Hi will this run baldurs gate 3?