Some people in the comments are wishing a gay child on homophobic people, and as much as I wish something would make homophobes re-evaluate their beliefs, I wouldn’t wish a homophobic parent to any gay child

@joshanderson9835

4 жыл бұрын

it’s me, i’m the child with the homophobic parent 🥰🤠

@s0phia71

3 жыл бұрын

Josh Anderson oh my gosh same😽🤙🏻

@naomis2308

3 жыл бұрын

As the child of two homophobic parents with a homophobic older brother, honest facts. I hate it here.

@mothines3064

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshanderson9835 same lol-

@Joseph-bd3pk

3 жыл бұрын

Josh Anderson Puurrrr me too you’re not special

The father of homosexual conversion fathered a homosexual... The irony is palpable here. If there is a God, this is one of his better jokes on humanity 😂.

@Lizestechreviews

6 жыл бұрын

“If there is a God” stfu obviously there’s a god. Idiot

@jamesarnold2899

6 жыл бұрын

Lizzy Hale dude chill. Not everyone is a theist.

@tyler___4558

6 жыл бұрын

+Lizzy Hale Oh fuck off. Stop forcing your religion on others, not everyone believes in God and there isn't even proof so you aren't entitled to hate on someone for voicing their opinion.

@midnightrain9673

6 жыл бұрын

Lizzy Hale you’re so pressed lmfao

@kershmelody

6 жыл бұрын

Wendy, the father started his practice in New York (having already been practicing for a few years) 8 months before his gay son was born, so unless he also had a talent for clairvoyance to go with his bigotry, I'm sure the two things were nothing more than a cosmic joke of a coincidence.

Bro the title "founder of conversion therapy" exudes the same vibe as "CEO of racism"

@georgesmith4307

4 жыл бұрын

It really does lmao

@thatoneguy9582

4 жыл бұрын

_ay CEO of racism I made you some lunch_

@thethrowawaythatstayed7055

4 жыл бұрын

Right? My eyes widened at that. What an awful “legacy”

@jamesamala7371

4 жыл бұрын

They work in the same office

@cicidiaries

4 жыл бұрын

I legitimately thought this was a The Onion video for a second there after I read the title

wow.. the creator of conversion therapy accepted his son and my mom is still trying to pray the gay away from me after a year since I told her....

@Daydream_N

6 жыл бұрын

ArtemusPrime your mom sounds a lot like mine, so I'll tell you what I told her. Anyone who ever quotes the Bible to say homosexuality is wrong is going against the word and sacrifice of Jesus. The passage that "forbids" homosexuality is found in leviticus, which is the old testimate. Which any Christian today will tell you that Christians no longer follow the old testimate because Jesus died on the cross which in turn brought in the New Testimate. So for your mom to tell you that homosexuality is wrong and she'll pray for you and all that trash, simply tell her that what she's doing is spitting in the face of Jesus and saying his sacrifice meant nothing and he was wrong, and if she knows more than Jesus does, why does she pray to his father?

@nobody3888

6 жыл бұрын

Howed you know you were gay?

@Daydream_N

6 жыл бұрын

NOBODY well. You're attracted to the same sex lol

@rendomstranger8698

6 жыл бұрын

Sierra Pruett Sorry to tell you but the new testament also contains pasages that condemn being gay. On top of that, Jesus said that the old testament rules still fully apply. Keep this in mind when using this argument. That being said, someone who values a book and their fear of death over loving their children is not a rational person in the first place. I doubt that they will listen to any arguments from "sinners" or those who are "broken".

@Daydream_N

6 жыл бұрын

Rendom Stranger and where does it condemn homosexuality in the new testament

So the founder of conversation therapy did not try to get his son into conversation therapy. I wonder why...

@anyasea10739

6 жыл бұрын

cassi farcas *conversion but good point

@rmi9345

6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be surprised to find out the founder was gay as well... that's just how life goes I guess

@allenhamming3356

6 жыл бұрын

Cus he knew that shit didn’t work

@auroraborealis675

6 жыл бұрын

SuperAspieGirl but* although you are right

@itslukemott

6 жыл бұрын

cassi farcas ikr, that's what i thought

Oh the irony

@EXTINCTICON

6 жыл бұрын

i wanted to like this comment but the like count was "666" which was really cool so i didn't press like lol

@ia8018

6 жыл бұрын

Alice Delarge you're the best

@EXTINCTICON

6 жыл бұрын

u too

Omg iconic

@danielguy851

7 жыл бұрын

This Bitch Empty Yeet omfg bitch

@chiquewunder

7 жыл бұрын

This Bitch Empty Yeet I just got ur name and omg rip vine

@crystalw_725

6 жыл бұрын

Iconic and ironic

@Maria-il1nn

4 жыл бұрын

1k like 💕

@fluffyhead6377

4 жыл бұрын

crystalwaterfalls_725 I was just about to say ironic as well 😂

I had a friend who's parents disowned him because he was gay. He was 18 at the time, and he was homeless for a while because they kicked him out. I cannot believe a parent would do such a thing. :(

my parents said that "god" is more important to them than their own, biological children. 🙄 They said that directly to us.

@Snappldel

8 жыл бұрын

Mine too :/ I was heartbroken. I was about 10 or 11 when they said that to us. I don't ever want to test if that's true or not because there's a good chance that they told us the truth. Especially since my father's a preacher.

@JillianHadley

8 жыл бұрын

+Jaake Anderson Well, to be fair, the bible is pretty clear on the fact that everyone needs to feel that way. God needs to be more important than literally everything else. They also are supposed to see each other as more important than their children. For them to think you mattered more than god would be going against the bible, for sure. I'm not saying this doesn't make your parents assholes, cause it does, but, I'd assume they had at other points also chosen to go along with the bible instead of common sense... If they also believe ridiculous crap about arks and talking snakes (with legs), then, it would be hypocritical of them to not believe the rest of the bibles nonsense. The bible absolutely tells you your children come third, and that never, ever, do any humans come first.

@Snappldel

8 жыл бұрын

Jillian Hadley That's true and the thing about piutting God in front of everything is one of the things that makes the whole concept of Christianity so stupid. I mean, that thing about Abraham killing his son, seriously? It's ridiculous.

@JillianHadley

8 жыл бұрын

MilkaC Extremely ridiculous.

@alexross1997

8 жыл бұрын

Jillian, if that means sacrificing your child for a "God," would you do it? I hope not. An ideology should never be put in front of your loved ones as being important. Why? Because it's an ideology, not proven to be real. Believe what you want, idc, but to put it in front of those whom you should love is imo arrogant, narcicistic, and down right idiotic.

My mother told me “I care more about God than I do you, and you’re going to Hell for being atheist and lesbian”. If you say this to your child, you don’t know how you are degrading them. I came out at school first (both secular and lesbian), and I got bullied endlessly by a lot of kids. I thought that my mother would be nice and support me before I came out. No, she only bullied me more. To you parents out there who are anti-gay or anti-secular, be accepting because what hurts the most is not when your kid gets bullied at school by it, it’s when the kid gets completely rejected by his/her parents because of such.

@zzzcocopepe

6 жыл бұрын

it's true. i try remember that somebody made up hell. Hell is just as real as any other book in the fiction section.

@melissag7372

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear what you've been through but you are a valid and beautiful person

@ojogbaneamedu2501

6 жыл бұрын

A bowl of salad Lmao what, I’m sorry to hear about the bullying but I’m going to point out two things. 1. My parents have made it very clear to me they love God more than they do me, and I love God more than my parents. That’s how Christianity works, God comes first. They still love me and I love them but no Christian is ever going to tell you they love you more than God. 2. Your mother has not been reading her bible, Christians are not to judge. Telling someone they are going to hell or anywhere is just plain wrong and I’m sorry to hear that. Nobody can judge you, me or anyone else other than God almighty. So I wouldn’t take that too seriously.

@KellySmith555

6 жыл бұрын

+Ojogbane Amedu Thank you. Couldn't have said it better. I would like to add that no one should hate anyone for their beliefs or for the things that are outside of their control, like homosexuality. But, the Christian religion makes it kind of clear that if you don't believe in God, you will go to hell. However! At the end of the day, its God's judgement what will happen. No one can speak for God, so no one should ever say to another person that they "are going to hell" because no one has the authority to make that judgement except for God. I'm sorry they hurt you like that, but I'm sure its because they are hurting too. Its wrong for them to disrespect you for your homosexuality. You can't control that and there is nothing wrong with you loving whoever you love. No human should judge your love. But, in there eyes, they are worried you will go to hell. I can see why that might blind their eyes and make them say horrible things. I'm not a Christian, so I don't believe in hell, (but I do believe in God.) Regardless, I would recommend you tell them what you feel. Tell them that you want a relationship with them and that you've made your choice about God, and they will have to leave God to make a choice about you. Tell them they should let it be and enjoy your company here on Earth as their daughter while they can, as apposed to wasting the time you all have together being filled with hate and anger. I wish you the best. I hope I didn't offend you in anyway, and I'm sorry if I did. You deserve love and respect from your parents and I hope that one day they will give you that love.

@user-mh9dx7nz2r

6 жыл бұрын

You know the bible never says to wish hell onto others. Your moms a false Christian.

i wonder if his father was also gay. aren't many of the worst homophobes gay men who are struggling with their own feelings?

@SM-333eyed

7 жыл бұрын

mad dusa You are right there was a study done that proved your point.

@Isabelle-fh3yr

7 жыл бұрын

it's a possibility as much as it is that it's not the case. Thankfully, he didn't try to "cure" his son. It's a bit sad that he didn't change his outlook on homosexuality perhaps, but for somebody who's a founder of conversion therapy to accept his own son being gay is a big step.

@lamaddussa

7 жыл бұрын

Isabelle yeah, the real gay conversion therapy needed out there is helping people to overcome their irrational hatred of gay people...

@Isabelle-fh3yr

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, hatred goes a biiiit far indeed. Makes you wonder where that's coming from. When it comes to people having different beliefs (one of the reasons why they may not understand/support homosexuality), I'd say, it's good enough for now when we accept eachother's differences and we can let eachother live in peace. Forcing people to do/act out against their (personal) beliefs just creates more opposition, I think.

@HUMC4L

7 жыл бұрын

According to the studies, yes

Funny how people change their minds so quick when it's their own child...

@rib_rob_personal

6 жыл бұрын

I think it’s because they know them on a personal level and know there’s really nothing wrong with them. They’re just different haha.

@1bam159

5 жыл бұрын

@@rib_rob_personal "there’s really nothing wrong with them" if that was the case then wouldn't they think the same of other homosexuals? If they really think that then they are saying that every other homosexual is mentally ill but their child isn't. Just as Jeff said they are just putting on a face either out of respect or because they don't want to lose their child

@13tuyuti

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, he knew all along he was selling snake oil.

@xTwilightWolvesx

4 жыл бұрын

Christians in general are very sheltered. It usually takes something personal for them to realise how badly they’ve been treating others who are different. Don’t treat someone they way you wouldn’t want to be treated yourself.

@aamandazittlau5505

4 жыл бұрын

Not all parents unfortunately 😪

Living proof that God has a sense of humor.

@fridgemagnet9831

5 жыл бұрын

😁

@egallagher4185

5 жыл бұрын

Acacia. I would like to thank you for this comment I was feeling sad and for some reason this made me laugh

@derektorres3092

5 жыл бұрын

I may not believe in God but if he does exist he does have a wonderful sense of humor

@aamandazittlau5505

4 жыл бұрын

Torturing a child by forcing them to grow up gay with homophobic parents hardly fits my definition of humour 🧐🥴

@Aethelhadas

4 жыл бұрын

Aamanda Zittlau we’re talking about the father’s point of view, and how ironic the situation is. I know it must be hard for the son.

I cried, my mom is making dinner one day when I was 16. She seemed like a upset so I asked her what's wrong. She said oh my co-workers daughter just told her she's gay! Can you believe having a gay daughter! I died. I'm a lesbian by the way

@onewish2230

4 жыл бұрын

You are amazing 🥰 being attracted to women even though you are a women is normal, I don’t understand why it’s so demonized. I’m sorry you have to hide a part of yourself from your mom, I know that must be hard. If she loves you now without her knowing that you like Women, she will still love you later if you ever decide to tell her❤️💖🏳️‍🌈

@renegademade3519

4 жыл бұрын

@@onewish2230 thank you

@victoriaflanders8739

3 жыл бұрын

You are awesome and valid and you deserve to be happy! I don't know what to say but I support you and wish you nothing but the best!

@logiclanguagelearningFrench

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect mom knows and was using rhetoric

The fact that he never even tried to get his own kid in his therapy program, is proof that his dad knew it was a bunch of bullshit, but he was making a boatload of money off of it and kept victimizing other people's kids.

I very much disagree with the notion that all parents love their children and want the best for them. My father has called me a very large number of horrible things, and never once changed his position on anything he's said. And he only found out I was into men, I cannot imagine how much worse it would have been if he had found out I was transgender as well. I haven't spoken to him in a good 5 years, and I never will again in my life. He will die alone and he dug himself into that hole.

@Deenique16

6 жыл бұрын

Epic Furry I hope you're doing well❤

@maxalberts2003

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks or showing us the true meaning of Christianity.

@maxalberts2003

6 жыл бұрын

Your mother sounds like she receiuved her education from the one room Krischun shack in the three person town of Outpost, Mississippi when she wasn't stuck for days at a time in the menstrual hut.

@lyricallemons6625

5 жыл бұрын

Fucking furry

@AppleWhiteFan

5 жыл бұрын

Parents should not call there kids horrible things, that probably hurts way more then being called names by other people, can i give you an internet hug? - raises arms- ^^

Parents: so, what did you learn today Me: the son of the founder of gay conversion therapy is gay

Interesting that he wouldn’t use his own methods on his homosexual son. Sounds like he knew it was malarkey.

Sexualitty is attraction not an illness. I am straight but I understand people have different attractions. What a great guy you are. I would be so proud if you were My son.

Yes ask straight people to explain gay people. because that makes sense

@danieljohnson2046

8 жыл бұрын

+tinfoilfeminist lol, ask a gay person to explain a straight person. Same thing

@dandeliondunmer3637

8 жыл бұрын

***** Yes but gay people don't attempt to explain straight people because everyone already accepts them as normal. I don't get what you are trying to say?

@jessicakennon

8 жыл бұрын

+tinfoilfeminist Exactly.

@dandeliondunmer3637

7 жыл бұрын

ita-eng subber also true

@asho345

7 жыл бұрын

As a doctor, you have to explain conditions all the time that you yourself have never been through.

My mom says “being trans is a sin because god made you a boy or girl.” So I said there’s nothing against it in the Bible. She felt salty!

@stellaraevum799

5 жыл бұрын

Dale Greeley Citation please.

@saxx9088

4 жыл бұрын

You can just say that god also made you want to be trans

@mcgreger8091

4 жыл бұрын

Stellar Aevum Have you read the Bible? There is not explicit mention of trans people in it lol

@brandidavis4425

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcgreger8091 There's no explicit mention, but there are a few times when the Bible condemns cross-dressing of any kind.

@mcgreger8091

4 жыл бұрын

Brandi Davis A trans person dressing as their gender isn’t cross dressing.

This story gives me some hope

@Abrahamhamham

6 жыл бұрын

Why? Because all assholes die eventually? I agree. it gives me hope as well.

@dwoktheraynejonsohn4849

4 жыл бұрын

Lol nice profile pic

When cbs did that special about him, and he got famous, he had no clue that he would father a gay child. In my life this has been a pattern with anti-gay folks. They spew all this trash at gays but never stop to think, "WAIT MY FUTURE CHILD MAY BE GAY"! My aunt used to talk about me when i was a gay teen to everybody about how shameful it was to have a gay relative. Ten years later "BAMM" i have a gay nephew. She's speechless.

@LauraLaura-mv4xh

4 жыл бұрын

that's funny bc one of the things that makes me accept every reality (aside from other people's right of freedom) is the thought "what if my kid is this? I will want him to feel accepted by society". idk how people think that it can never happen to them

@ramonanaya6236

4 жыл бұрын

Lol so did my partners aunt. She's homophobic and has several gay/lesbian children.

Wow, thanks so much for this video. Much appreciated and I admire your strength.

I am a Christian myself and I do believe in god. However, I would NEVER support homophobia, transphobia etc. If someday my child came to me and they said they're gay, I'd be so proud of them for being brave enough to tell me and for being honest. It just breaks my heart to see parents literally disown their own children simply because they're gay. Also, doesn't it say that god loves everyone? Everyone that he's created?

@mochiibee8300

4 жыл бұрын

TOTALLY SIS !! ❤️✨ You're a real Christian.

I clicked on this thinking it was The Onion

@strawwberryyy

4 жыл бұрын

lmao same?? Idk why

When I was around 35 I was home for Christmas and chatting with my siblings in the kitchen. Mom comes in, looks at me and says, "Are you homosexual?" I said, "Yes." She then said, "I need to tell your father." Well there are several things there; 1) I'm pretty sure he'd kind of always known and 2) we never spoke about it, he and I, neither before or after. Life just went on. So, in a sense, I never officially told my dad I was gay and I think he was happy with that.

@silencieuxasmr6246

6 жыл бұрын

tapionisapsyduck Wow you're so edgy.

@Cadec247

6 жыл бұрын

tapionisapsyduck I’m guessing you’re deep within the bowels of middle America

@Cadec247

6 жыл бұрын

tapionisapsyduck Florida? Haha

@maxalberts2003

6 жыл бұрын

And it was her business to take his decision on herself because…?

@alyssawoodman

4 жыл бұрын

Lol! I like this story :)

I know how you feel. I had to come out to my best friend and it was very difficult. He was the founder of Grindr. It was very hard. Very hard indeed.

@renigold3390

7 жыл бұрын

Very "hard" *(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)*

@Dyl_Cam

6 жыл бұрын

You should've lubed him up before you told him.

@milleliza1490

6 жыл бұрын

Guess he didn't walk straight for a while after that huh?

@kiky.mp4

6 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@frederickkriesel2724

6 жыл бұрын

Talking about the app for the people who love Sandwiches right?

I'm curious to know how he feels about the pain and the damage his father caused those who have gone, or been sent to, Conversion Therapy.

@RonLarhz

6 жыл бұрын

Helen of Sparta Yea he should make a public apology if not personal ones. Not this man's fault...tho it does make an awesome karma story.

@user-xy4ff5yp7b

6 жыл бұрын

He had no control over his father; he was a child.

@adamplentl5588

4 жыл бұрын

@@breetoldyouso yeah I dont think that's his responsibility as a gay man.

@deborakr9298

4 жыл бұрын

@@RonLarhz it really is not his responsibility. This whole 'your father's sin' mentality is just as backwards as is homophobia

@notsafeformiranda4271

4 жыл бұрын

RonLarhz breetoldyouso if he spoke out and said “btw this is wrong” then yeah that’d be cool but he shouldn’t have to apologize for what his father did. His father hurt him too. Even if he didn’t put him through conversion therapy, growing up in a household around people like that fucks you up. He was a child and had no choice. He’s another victim here even though he was eventually accepted, and he shouldn’t have to apologize when it’s obviously not his fault

So proud of this guy for having the guts to come out to his father

I hope this is the case for everyone, just a casual coming out to your folks and then a few months of processing and acceptance, it is never that easy here in Asia.

@alaliiah1813

4 жыл бұрын

it's not that easy in the west either sadly, many people are disowned or ostracized for it

@louiepop

4 жыл бұрын

@@alaliiah1813 😢😢😢

I think the fact that he never wanted his own son to go through conversion therapy shows he doesn’t think it would actually work or at least he knew it was harmful

Not my body (or life)? Not my business. Simple as that. Five minutes ago, I didn’t know this man existed. Didn’t know his sexual orientation, or the judgmental beliefs of his father. Now I know. And it hasn’t changed one g****mned thing for me. And five minutes from now, I’ll probably have mostly forgotten them, too.

@nursegrace7492

10 жыл бұрын

Well, if you're not interested in other people's lives...that's up to you. Good luck with that!

@rorscach1

9 жыл бұрын

Nurse Grace He's saying that his sexuality has no effect on him the way homophobes believe it does.

Like a year ago, my friends and I hung out with a lot of other girls and started talking about things. Eventually someone asked what would we do if we had kids and one turned out to be gay. I was immediately uncomfortable in the situatuoon not because I am against gay people, but because of how much homophobia almost all of the girls had. Almost all of them where horrifired at the thought of having a gay kid and a lot of them said they would send them to camps to try and convert them which horrified me. I’m straight but I fully support the lgbtq+ community and to see so many people think that made me sad. It just goes to show how much homophobia is still going around and passed on from parent to kid, because we were all 14 I mean most of the thing we know at this age are from our parents. Anyway, don’t really know why I wrote all of this just wanted to share lol.

@hideakisorachi3953

4 жыл бұрын

that's really sad, I hope their mindset changes as they mature. I used to be weirded out by the lgbtq community when I was little until I started getting exposed to the internet and realized that I was trans and bisexual. I just wish people made more of an effort to understand others.

@charlottegaston6469

4 жыл бұрын

@@hideakisorachi3953 I was the same way! I was raised in a household where being lgbtq+ was seen as "weird". now that I've gotten older, I educated myself and came out as lesbian. even though my parents weren't against people being gay, they thought it was "weird" - but having an lgbtq+ daughter has helped them understand how normal and okay it is.

I still can’t understand how conversion therapy is still legal in US. It’s like concetration camp for kids used to destroy their entire self and mind. People who run these places should get life sentence.

I'm sorry, but conversation therapy is probably one of the most horrible and scarring things to put someone through. No one should have to go through it.

@eduardochavacano

4 жыл бұрын

millions suffered... even if you are not in therapy. Just with religions and DYI attempts to convert.

@knifoui

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry for asking but is that Lin Manuel Miranda in your profile pic, i can't tell

@naomi9625

4 жыл бұрын

@@knifouiyeah💀

that moment when the founder of conversion therapy can accept his son as gay but my parents can't accept me as transgender because it's too hard lol

@isabellaahern5427

4 жыл бұрын

I will be your mom now. Remember to wear sunscreen and drink water!

@emperor_elkcip4260

4 жыл бұрын

@@isabellaahern5427 lol

@darthvader6916

4 жыл бұрын

Aww i really hope you’re doing okay

It seems like the dad subconsciously knew that his "treatment" doesn't work

@seanegan8150

4 жыл бұрын

It's like people who want to force women to go through with pregnancies. They'll be fine with it for other women except when it's someone close to them, only then do they understand the pain

What a chilling video. And this person seems to have no idea why it's so disturbing. His father helped ruin how many peoples' lives with the falsity of his abusive beliefs? And yet when his son comes out, he casually dismisses his own fake ideals and embraces his son - revealing his own lack of giving a shit about truth or justice on any level. He serves no greater moral authority, in other words, and feels no need to abandon his corrupt or incorrect beliefs, and instead just does whatever is CONVENIENT. This is why the world is a flaming ball of garbage.

I'm so over that I see Corona word everywhere . I read the title as Corona Therapy, and was like Corona therapy 7 years Ago??!

@pault9544

4 жыл бұрын

multifandom bish because that’s all we see on the news now 24/7. Good riddens...

@ramonanaya6236

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

What courage that must have taken. You’re an intelligent, amazing, and talented person and I would be proud to have you as my son. I have two daughters, 9 and 2, and I will be proud of the people they will become and celebrate the small victories in their lives because that is what matters. 🌈

he must have figured out at some point that conversion doesnt work, but he had to defend his position publicly--he invested so much in his book and theory.

Him saying "we couldn't come close to rebuilding the warmth from my childhood after I came out" broke my heart tbh ...

So he created a system so abhorrent that he wouldn’t put his own son through it. Yeah. He still deserves to burn in hell.

I love that you guys are doing these gay, lesbian, and transgender stories, but would also really want to see stories of bisexuals, pansexuals, non-binary, etc...

This proves God has got a great sense of humor.

Wow 1967 to 2013, 46 years, and people STILL quote your father. You are not responsible for what your father did. Kudos for sharing your story. I think it will help. I think you have contributed to diminishing the prejudice towards sexual minorities. Thank you for this. Thank you very much.

The fact that your father wrote you that letter is mountains better than most if us in the same boat... It chocked me up when he told you he was sorry and your the most important thing to him. Wow, how many of us wanted to hear those words uttered from our fathers mouths.

I don't believe in God, but I was raised as a devout Christian. Thing is, people claiming to know what God wants is kind of farfetch'd, isn't it? To really know what he wants means you know him on a personal level. This also implies that you share the same thinking process, which is a fallacy at it's finest. God is omniscient; A person claiming to know what he wants would mean that they are omniscient by extension. I highly doubt that the latter would be true. The bible is also kind of a disappointment. There are people who believe that God used people as an instrument to construct the bible. They say that through them, God is communicating with us. Well, excuse me good sire, but was there any decisive evidence claiming that God really was communicating with these authors? Hmmm, I didn't think so. I respect people of all religions, but there are certain people who keep making their so called "sacred scriptures" an excuse to discriminate people.

@boston1953

8 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, you didn't really say that did you? If you did how can someone be that ignorant

@DKLong42

8 жыл бұрын

I took theology as a minor, excuse you. One of the concepts clearly states that while humans can know of the existence of God, they cannot know who he is personally. The sin also is not in homosexuality itself, but in homosexual acts.

@TrunkMonkey3000

8 жыл бұрын

DerekAllen Okay, so the teachings of man (as in humanity) taught you that you can not personally know God? Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Jesus Christ is teaching that you CAN personally know God. And there is a punishment for not knowing him and not caring to know him.

@ericapatterson7844

8 жыл бұрын

+TrunkMonkey3000 Why be eternally punished by an all-knowing, all-seeing, purely good being? Isn't that a bit extreme? And why be punished for not knowing, especially when the being KNOWS that the person doesn't know?

@TrunkMonkey3000

8 жыл бұрын

Erica Patterson Because people choose to rebel against God, just like Satan chose to. He is eternally punished. Mankind wasn't meant to rebel against God, we were meant to serve him and love him. Hell was not created for man, it was created for Satan.

God loves everyone no matter whether your straight or gay.

I see a lot of comments bringing in religion, specifically Christianity... As a Christian, lemme say that anyone who is judge mental or bashing you for your sexuality and making you feel uncomfortable about it, is not a Christian. Period. Don’t let these people make you feel bad. Christianity is about loving everyone more than anything. Don’t pay these people any mind. I promise they’ll get theirs y’all. God put everyone on this earth for a reason and there’s a place in heaven for everyone. You’re loved PERIOD. 💓

@KathrynMasrona

4 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said thankyou as a fellow Christian 😘 And bisexual as I may add😅

@mj-zl7kf

4 жыл бұрын

Kathryn S No problem girl we got love for everybody here baby 💕

@mikhail.lawley

4 жыл бұрын

That's no true scotsman fallacy

@mcgreger8091

4 жыл бұрын

Mikhail Lawley Exactly. @ op, anyone who believes in the abrahamic god and believes Jesus died on the cross to save us from sin is a Christian. Just bc the religion is used for bad doesn’t make those people non-religious. You cannot just exempt Christianity from criticism by saying “anyone who is hateful isn’t Christian UwU” when the reality is they ARE Christian and Christianity is the root of a lot of homophobia (this is not to say all Christians are homophobic). You can’t ignore the bad parts of something and pretend they don’t exist. Freedom of religion means you can’t dictate what another person believes. homophobic Christians are still Christians. They’re just ignorant ones.

@mj-zl7kf

4 жыл бұрын

McGreger ...how are you going to claim that you are a Christian and be homophobic?? That goes against the exact point of Christianity, which is to love people like Jesus did, and how are you going to do that when you have hate for a whole group of people in your heart?

This guy has the biggest set of balls Ive ever seen, coming out to your father who was the founder of the abuse known as ''conversion therapy'' took a lot courage.

I love that his dad’s book was dedicated to him 😂

Im so glad that he was able to maintain a relationship with and love his father and not look back at him with only anger. His father was in the wrong but the most important thing is that this gay man could be the bigger man and forgive his father, because ultimately it seems like his own life was healthier for it.

Takes a lot of guts to do that man! Props to this guy for coming out to his dad even though he was the founder of homosexual conversion.

What a wonderful man! So at ease with himself. He seems like an absolute joy to be around. I'm happy he was able to give this issue with his unaccepting father a place in his mind and get on with his life so well, and glad at least the father wrote that letter although unfortunately never making the conversion ;-) to fully accepting homosexuality.

why did this get recommended by KZread 7 years later...

he didnt try to cure you (one cause he knew it was fake, 2 casue he knew that the process he use is abusive and un acceptable and woudl risk his son life)

I love this guy, he has a great attitude and feel about him. He is just a good person, I can see and feel it in his aura. I love the way he smiles the entire time he tells his story.

This man is super charismatic and tells this story so well. Like I feel bad but he also makes it light hearted enough so that I can laugh at some points and I don’t pity him, I just wish he could have rebuilt his relationship to what it was.

he's handsome.

@vanshikadhyani13

6 жыл бұрын

THANK GOD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE! I WAS SITTING HERE FINDING A 40 SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD, GAY DUDE ATTRACTIVE!

@itrytobesatisfying3674

6 жыл бұрын

Vanshikalikestowrite he’s not 40. probably older. but don’t call him old and disgusting. you swine. he’s hot.

@pinkpanther7442

5 жыл бұрын

Minus the nose

@thelessimportantajmichel287

5 жыл бұрын

Pink Panther I’m pretty sure a most people are finding him attractive partly because of his strong nose. Plus, it’s hard to find people of Greek descent who don’t have a strong nose.

Thank you for your story because the first thing my father said to me when I came out was to see a psychologist before making a decision. I think he knew it wasn't a decision but my mother did not (totally opposite from where I thought it was going to go). I can not imagine having to do this with with a father who was in the profession but I do realize they grew up in a different time and had there own beliefs and ways. They did what they thought was best and I am glad he did not push his therapy on you. My Mom still does not truly accept it. Sometimes Dads and Moms surprise you in the wrong (or maybe right) ways. I came out in the 70's and it's a whole lot different mentality than now, yet I still have all the stigmas in my head but your post made me feel that it could have been worse. Thank you, John.

The first time i heard of this man and his father was in Dustin Lance Black's "When We Rise" show. Its so wonderful to hear him talk about this experience.

So inspirational. Every time I think I’ll never come out to my mother, I’ll think of his story. Maybe one day.

I’m bisexual but I have like no ability to tell anyone..I’m so scared.

@animetrashtrash5919

5 жыл бұрын

Well you just told KZread so great progress

@nuuraabdulkadir3217

5 жыл бұрын

Sami .S did you hate your parents

@the_sky_is_blue_and_so_am_I

3 жыл бұрын

hi fellow bi here. are you safe. If you are tell them, if not I'm so sorry and I hope you can turn this around

@sami.s9718

3 жыл бұрын

@@the_sky_is_blue_and_so_am_I since my comment i have been able to tell my parents! luckily they are accepting of me

Richard, thank you so much for making this video. In the early 1970s, when I realized I was gay (age 13), I found ways of getting books on homosexuality secretly, which I devoured growing ever more dispirited. Although I never actually found your father's published work, I did find many secondary sources that referred to him. I'm afraid none were positive (even in the 1970s!), most pointing out that his claims of cures had many dubious, clinically suspect elements. Anyway, he was always this Mephistophelean figure for me, the evil genius who kept alive the sickness theory, giving homophobes a patina of medical respectability. I'm glad you humanized him without diminishing his flawed approach to "curing" homosexuality. I am curious if he continued to hold to his clinical judgement of mental illness, or began to reconsider it, after you came out to him.

love is love.

This is sad and inspiring at the same time. I am very sorry that he was unable to rebuild the closeness with his father. But his comfort in being able to be authentic with him is admirable.

why is the founder of conversion fucking therapy more accepting than my own

@stonesoul-ds7fx

6 жыл бұрын

I know I'm kinda jealous

Who is here after they found out the founder is also gay

@ItsMartianGirl

4 жыл бұрын

Wait what????? :o

This would be a great story line for a film

@r.d.whitaker5787

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking the same thing!

this just got recommended to me in 2020 but I’m here for it

This is going to mess up my YT algorithm, and probably freak my wife out😂 Finally got free from religion/personal relationship with invisible gods, so now I’m learning about how things really are, not what I was indoctrinated to think.

If there is a god, he has a sense oh humor because this shit is just too perfect.

how am i seeing this in 2020? i just realized this video is 7 years old. but still iconic! i learned something new today!

the father should be put in JAIL

Those poor men that were put through conversation therapy

When I was 17 I knew a woman in my acting class who was much older than me. She told me she counseled homeless Youth; kids in their early teens mainly. She went on to tell me that all homosexuals were molested. I was young and vulnerable and did not like conflict, so I said nothing and this has been a nightmare!!! I've never been able to get it out of my head! I want to go back in time and tell her she's much too intelligent to actually believe that! She's letting her Christianity get in the way! I've had many friends who are gay and were never molested and some of them I actually asked if they'd ever been abused and my best friend laughed and said that his own Mother would have told me had he been abused! He was right, his mom was a character! I want to tell Nancy-yes her name was Nancy- that she was so WRONG, that many many gay people have lived together for years as a happy couple who were never abused. And how in the would would she explain people who were molested who are straight and heterosexual??? She could not, at the time, because she was too busy deceiving herself and trying to get everyone else, namely young teenagers to believe her bullshit with her. I hope/pray to all the Gods that someone, somewhere, somehow got to her and SLAPPED the SHIT out of her on an intellectual basis and showed her that she’s dead WRONG! I wish I could go back and actually tell her myself!

I'm proud of those who've come out , love to you all!✨🌸

Richard, I am really proud of you for doing this. Your father was, of course, a man I could never admire. For you, that can be different as you knew all the aspects of who he was as a man and sexuality, or anyone's opinion about that, is such a small part of who we are as people. I never knew about your existance until I saw this and must say, you have now entered my "most admired" list of my lifetime. Coming out, for you, certainly was "different" than any other experience that I am aware of.

What a great story to share!!

Wow, when I came out (in 2015) my dad said "I love you, but I want you to see a therapist." And this guy's dad was a "therapist" and didn't try therapy. Wtf

This youtube page: ImFromDriftwood just sort of popped up on mine. I've found it unfailingly engrossing. Young people still go through Hell apparently, but the difference between the resources that we had (I'm pushing 60), and now is mind-boggling. Truth be told, I don't trust in the stability of the current era of tolerance. For one thing, it's called "Tolerance". Also, the 2 minutes it took for dangerous philosophies to come out of the woodwork once Trump started shooting off his mouth is exactly what I feared. This program is wonderfully important. I thank you!

Thank you for your incredible story! Love is love!

I love this, so amazing! The son is strooong!!!

Life pulled an uno reverse card on him

"...well, we never came close to rebuilding that." That flicker of honesty hit me in the heart a bit.

Wow. As a Christian I know God makes no mistakes. Gay or straight God adores and loves us all. Like who cares? As long as we don’t harm children, old ppl, animals and eachother, then lets love and accept others. This is a great story.

very intersting. He should have stopped treating others though.

@JillianHadley

8 жыл бұрын

+Ulrich Lehnhardt eh, he was treating adults who were there on their own accord. We should absolutely outlaw conversion therapy done on minors, but, I don't think we should be banning full grown adults from getting whatever ridiculous therapy they want to pay for.

@ulrichlehnhardt4293

8 жыл бұрын

Jillian Hadley of course everybody is free to do what he wants BUT THIS therapy will definitely never work - not even a single case will be "cured"...

@JillianHadley

8 жыл бұрын

Ulrich Lehnhardt Ohh, definitely. Every major medical/psych group in our nation, as well as most other western nations, has officially stated that you can not change anyone's sexual orientation. There is 0% chance of it working, for real, for anyone. Have you ever looked at what these therapies consider success? It's hilarious. One of them considered you successfully cured from homosexuality if you though about gay sex less than 5 times a day. So, if it's just 4 times a day, congratulations, you're cured. It's all ridiculous. But if an adult wants to pay someone to provide this ridiculous therapy...they should be allowed to do so, no matter how insane.

It's insane and sad how some parents these days will kick their children out of their home or shame them or put them through some other kind of horrible mental beating, but the freaking founder of conversion therapy still kept a relationship with his son, even if it wasn't as close as it was before

These testimonials are great, and in such a unique situation. I grew up in Iowa in the 50s and am still coming to terms with being gay.

Why is the camera held instead of fix ?

I feel really lucky that my parents are so welcoming to my homosexuality. Like they couldn't care less. For me it's the people around me who are hostile like my grandparents and the people at school but I don't particularly care because I am just a really nice person so if they dislike me it's because of their personal issues

literally iconic

Praise this man 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻

tearing up at these comments. you are valid, you are loved, and you most certainly aren’t alone. stay safe i love you❤️

Personally I don't care if you believe in god, I care about the actions you take and how they affect others.

@bruhmomenthdr7575

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, an eight y/o comment

Well, he didn't found what is gay conversion therapy today. Which is literal (psychological) torture that should be illegal.

Absolutely fascinating. Wish I'd know about this channel earlier

Wow it sounds like this guy was so mature and balanced in the face of his father.... Kudos