"Maybe a lot of the things he's wearing on him are to restrain him from going on a rampage." And just like that, Stan turned a generic drawing of some armored brute into a compelling character. What a creative mind.

@calvinhenio4456

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just that simple remark, comment. Blew me away at how much more his mind was thinking about the creative process. Todd & rob were just throwing shit together. Stan was looking at the same art & brought in an entirely different perspective. Fuckin genius. RIP Stan Lee.

@joshkaid

5 жыл бұрын

Lord knows Rob and Todd weren't going to come up with anything.

@slaughterhome

4 жыл бұрын

@giftofgab247 And Call of Duty is one of the highest selling videogame franchises of all time. Does that make their "art" exceptional, well-written, thoughtful, etc?

@Aevilbeast

4 жыл бұрын

@giftofgab247 Other how many it sold, which makes it a commercial success but doesn't necessarily mean it's "good", everything else art, writing, style is completely subjective. This is especially true when dealing with something that can be as niche as comics, that usually try to target certain demographics instead of mainstream appeal. That's the amazing thing about comic's, even with the same characters/story it can become something so completely different with different writers and artists, with different takes or views, at the helm. You can usually always find something you like but also find stuff you hate or think is just flat out bad. There's just stuff to fit anyone's tastes.

@JeantheSecond

4 жыл бұрын

giftofgab247 1. Popularity =/= quality. 2. Why is not a good idea to compare comic books to games? Both are art forms which utilize a visual medium to tell a story. Some are good quality and many are terrible quality.

"I'm gonna put more gadgets up here, like some blasters or something. I dunno." Ladies and gentlemen, the Rob Liefeld creative process.

@zachs4956

4 жыл бұрын

Needs more pouches and less feet.

@ThatFilmisGnarly

3 жыл бұрын

to be fair, they were all taking the piss out of this. They even made fun of Overkill's generic name.

@Alianger

Жыл бұрын

They just had some fun in 20 mins don't take it too seriously

@mikhaelgribkov4117

7 ай бұрын

@@ThatFilmisGnarly and yet he actually used him in Spawn. And in animated series they just put him in shadows to not show how stupid that design is, which is the funniest thing.

@nonstopoulos

Ай бұрын

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Liefeld created Deadpool. End of story.

The moment stan lee said they are gonna draw a character 'OVERKILL' I knew what stan lee is upto

@Phazon8058MS

5 жыл бұрын

And watch as Liefeld immediately starts drawing another fucking clone of Cable.

@joshkaid

5 жыл бұрын

Hook line and sinker.

It's really fascinating how many times Stan tries to get these two to actually use their brains and actually think about WHO they're drawing.

@Actual-Knight

4 жыл бұрын

and yet it never works

@jsrhedgehog9981

4 жыл бұрын

@@Actual-Knight oof

@elgatochurro

3 жыл бұрын

What you mean? They're drawing Overkill, the cyborg badass whos better than cable and DARKER

@NeostormXLMAX

3 жыл бұрын

thats why modern marvel sucks these days, golden era is over

@MrJibbajabbawocky

Жыл бұрын

​@No_guard_X these guys aren't Modern Marvel

The passive aggressiveness is hilarious

@craigmarshall3386

3 жыл бұрын

Todd was looking at the front 🚪

"In comic book world, you don't see them getting dressed or going to the bathroom." "You draw people getting dressed all the time. Especially women."

@paulpolpiboon9535

5 жыл бұрын

plus the issue they were discussing was how does he GET INTO his costume when immediate trouble comes, and we've ALWAYS witness the superheroes getting into their costume; flash pops his ring, wondy does her twirl, and spidey, bats, and all the spandex population do what superman taught them...bust out the S.

@Actual-Knight

4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love that line. It's such a small line but it's got so much behind it

@sap9255

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, also the point isn't that you show it or not. The point is it needs to be believable that he can take it off and out it on

Stan, sarcastically: "Should he wear some more armour on his legs? Holsters?" Rob, completely serious: "Yeah, I think so."

@Mitatt0

4 жыл бұрын

17:14

@JesusIsTheSonOfGod_john316

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Stan Lee is so savage. He told Liefeld that without shoulder pads his characters are naked. lol

I got chills when Todd predicted that they'd fight over overkill in court. Amazing.

@D_Fyre

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing isn't it? There's a lot to unpack here, lol. Stan Lee low key criticizing how dumb a lot of their design choices are, Rob and Todd focusing too much on the extrememess of the character while Stan tries to remind them that he's supposed to be a hero, Todd constantly reminding us that he knows what "the kids like". This is a great time capsule. RIP Stan Lee

@paulpolpiboon9535

5 жыл бұрын

Derek Magsanay : they're joking around

@D_Fyre

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulpolpiboon9535 Yes, on the surface.

@paulpolpiboon9535

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Magsanay ; Well that's what jokes are, they're for the surface. To reflect on the outside SOME kind of maturity and peace inside. They wouldn't even be able to joke if something deep was truly bothering them

@yareyarejose5080

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulpolpiboon9535 they are also in front of cameras so there's that.

"Kids like chains". Truly a phrase for the ages.

There is beautiful bit of irony to the fact that Stan asks these two artists, wink, to create a character named overkill. Stan the original troll. Still doing it from beyond the grave with this video.

"He lives out in Malibu. He's a beach bum" is the closest thing he has to a unique trait; judging from their descriptions of him. ...now I'm just picturing him surfing in that ridiculous getup. While constantly grimacing cause what other facial expression would he be making?

@starchilder734

5 жыл бұрын

he removes all the armor, chains, and his giant ass shoulderpads, and hes just a super tan beach grandpa who wears floral shirts and board shorts

@idontwanttopickone

3 жыл бұрын

You can see what he became by looking up Overt-kill in Spawn or Overkill/Taserface in Guardians of the Galaxy.

@PickleJello

2 жыл бұрын

Here's an idea: He's a retired hero/mercenary. And the comic is about his retired life, him just doing ordinary things while looking like that. Like gardening, surfing, grocery shopping, in that grim look.

@HiBuddyyyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

You could have a scene with him playing volley ball while he has a dark monologue.

@mateusfelipecardoso40kview3

Ай бұрын

What you do in your free time overkill? 🗿: I like surfing!

Jesus, Stan is absolutely ruthless. I love how at the end they both realized in fear that Stan said Overkill didn't have any fucking feet.

As much as people all like to say Stan is jabbing at their art, seeing the whole show it really just feels like 3 friends fucking around in front of a camera, it’s really quite wholesome. As much as Stan has issues with their character design skills, he still laughs along and has fun while they draw.

"This guy is THICK!" Oh, Rob.

@Phantom_of_Black

6 жыл бұрын

I think you meant to spell it "THICC".

@sinister2509

6 жыл бұрын

Rob was a man ahead of the times.

@DIGITALSWOON

4 жыл бұрын

@@Phantom_of_Black i don't think it was a meme yet

"These are comic books man, you gotta suspend... Reality for a moment" I love that he couldn't think of the word disbelief

They walked into the trap, didn't they?

@joshkaid

5 жыл бұрын

They took the bait hook, line, and sinker. It's kind of miraculous.

@dougthedonkey1805

3 жыл бұрын

Stan didn’t set up a trap, they set it up for themselves and he kept urging them to walk away

@driveasandwich6734

3 жыл бұрын

Specially with the name Overkill

Stan Lee: "Is he going to be able to move with all this stuff?"

13:55 "Comics are reality based" ...Liefeld completely ignores - "Hey I'm gonna put some wires around his leg"

@toddlerwipes

4 жыл бұрын

That kills me.

@bcash1994

Жыл бұрын

“Cool lookin” the definition of ‘90s art. 🤢🤢🤮

@realamericannegro977

3 ай бұрын

😂

Gees! This convo has more burns than the Spanish Inquisition...

@slayertakim1

7 жыл бұрын

And nobody expects the Spanish inquisition

@Mewchu14

5 жыл бұрын

Stanish inquisition.

@bremensims6086

5 жыл бұрын

@@slayertakim1 NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISTION

@eclipsesolar8345

5 жыл бұрын

Idiots that don't know nothing about the Spanish Inquisition.

@bradburyfan1049

5 жыл бұрын

More Burns than Smithers wet dream...

This video is fucking comedy gold. "...now if we could just finish that left leg..." -Stan Lee.

@gamesAVALetsPlays

7 жыл бұрын

SparkyPantsMcGee haha

@FireMadeFleshII

6 жыл бұрын

I spat out my drink laughing at this comment 😂

@ulose5909

2 жыл бұрын

Could hear his voice as I read it

@Nyadlabaoth

2 жыл бұрын

Todd: I think he's just about perfect!

You know Stan Lee was thinking what the hell did they just created? Stan Lee is right a superhero characters need a background story and a personality.

@sirubisan698

2 жыл бұрын

Right otherwise it's no better than superman in the 30s and the 40s when he had no weaknesses

@benkenobi5128

2 жыл бұрын

Then again they only had like 20 minutes m, I'm sure if they had the correct amount of time they could have drawn a proper background, And I'm sure they could add a background and an amazing story to go along with it.

@josiewithyomama

Жыл бұрын

@@benkenobi5128 he means background story as in his origins. what is this “hero’s” motives? why does he choose to go out dressed like that to fight crime? what is he fighting for? stuff that humanizes the heroes because that’s what makes us love heroes like spiderman, iron man, etc.

"You can think and draw at the same time?" Stan, please, murder is illegal.

“A Liefeld character without shoulder pads is almost naked” hahaha😂😂 priceless! Man I miss Stan 😓😢

At 23:04: "I wanna tighten those feet!" Rob Liefeld hears those words every time he has a nightmare. He was hoping to god that Stan wouldn't mention them. He then proceeds to draw a black spike on the ankle and doesn't touch the foot.

It's almost painful to watch Stan lee break these two down but then I remember rob liefelds captain American with the chest like a night stand and mcfarlanes near fetish for chains. I remember how right he is

@Stiggandr1

4 жыл бұрын

@giftofgab247 How much of that was because of quality art, vs. greedy speculators in the 90s comic book bubble.

@Ratchet2431

4 жыл бұрын

@giftofgab247 I don't believe that the number of sales is a measure of quality.

@thecollector4332

4 жыл бұрын

giftofgab247 That popularity only lasted for like 2 years before the comic industry collapsed. I liked Todd’s drawings but liefield? No.

@thecollector4332

4 жыл бұрын

giftofgab247 Also, spawn was pretty bad (most image comics where) when he was first created. Ironic, considering that image is now the best comic company out there.

@damiboo3640

4 жыл бұрын

@giftofgab247 "sjw" there it is. You just wanna leer at misproportioned girls with no character depth. Gtfo

Damn you can hear the tension in so much of this. Especially as Todd McFarlane grows more and more snappy with Stan Lee’s pretty reasonable questions. Like... he’s not even making fun of the character but he’s asking questions any creator would when presented with a new character. What’s he like? Where does he live? What does he do?

Liefeld forgot to add pouches 

@gskaloyan

8 жыл бұрын

+Sheldon Cooper He didn't leave enough room on his "tank"

@mario6279

8 жыл бұрын

gskaloyan lol

@brentshira3373

5 жыл бұрын

HUH????

Oh my God are those...FEET...on that drawing?!?!

@Jose-se9pu

5 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind Stan told him to draw them.

@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia

2 ай бұрын

@@Jose-se9puand that Todd had to draw them for Rob lol

18:22-18:30,"For the sake of our viewers is this really the type of thought process that goes through your head when you're making characters?" LOL

@D_Fyre

5 жыл бұрын

I fucking loved that!

It's amazing how they seemed to be joking about the ownership and lawyers and stuff, but turned out they were pretty serious.

Overkill is the most 90s superhero there ever was.

@timmneeley4301

4 жыл бұрын

No lie Todd McFarlane later made him into a Spawn Villain

@Handle...This.

4 жыл бұрын

@@timmneeley4301 just looked it up and he changed the name to overt-kill, but most of the design is the same except he's 🤬 HUGE! It's cool to see his origin started here!

@richardblack3385

4 жыл бұрын

He's a villain wtf lol

@jonathanche6553

4 жыл бұрын

@Richard Black I guess it was because Overkill was still a hero in development stages (aka, this video) when Todd needed a new villain for his Spawn comic book series. So he was like, “Aight, I have an unreleased prototype character. Maybe I’ll use him.”

@demogeymidge2997

3 жыл бұрын

@@timmneeley4301 and started using him as a bit of a punching bag.

Love the subtle shade from Stan to Todd and Todd to Stan the entire time. "Overkill" sums up Stan's personal take on their style, with his endless digs at their huge over-costumed grim edgy characters while Todd reminds Stan at every opportunity that fans liked the flashier 90s style and DC comics exists.

I agree with stan lee, the more classic heroes are timeless because they also have designs that are reasonable in an idea of combat and agility not just a fetish pile

@elgatochurro

3 жыл бұрын

I tried bringing that up to a friend's about old fantasy ttrpg art and now extremes like final fantasy... old art for a rogue or wizard was a simple garb most the time. Now fantasy art is so expunged from reality theres like no grounding for anything really. Overkill looks LACKING compared to armor in final fantasy where spikes and horns and all this elegance creating added weight realistically and being cumbersome... is perfectly normal

@projectionreflection5475

3 жыл бұрын

Spawn is pretty damn memorable though

@anonlvl1957

3 жыл бұрын

@@projectionreflection5475 Spawn is one lucky that was remember over thousand of forgoten copy based edgy heroes

@thecollector4332

2 жыл бұрын

@@projectionreflection5475 I’d say that for all the fuck ups Todd and rob had, they did score some home runs. Spawn, venom, Deadpool (and to a degree cable) have pretty memorable designs. However those are stand outs. Most characters they made are garbage design wise.

@benedictrogers1478

Жыл бұрын

@@elgatochurro It really depends on the artist, and a lot of old fantasy TTRPG art had a tendency for women to lack clothes. But outside the more mainstream names styles vary a lot, Ryuutama for instance is done in a very sketch-like style that can hide a surprising amount of detail on simply dressed folk (do they have a cravat? Is that satchel implied to hold books or a set of tools? Do they even have a weapon, and if so what? Is their garb patterned, or is it covered in pockets?). It's really worth looking at more indie stuff, there's no way I'd mistake an The Aether Sea character for one from Chuubo's Marvelous Wish Granting Engine (which is definitely fantasy).

I kind of feel bad for Stan here. He made a career out of challenging the ideas of the comics of his time and now there he is, watching the next generation making a smoothie with the baby and the bathwater. At least he saw the birth of the THICC meme.

@will_sketch

5 жыл бұрын

@David H go play it n traffic

@smurphftw2008

5 жыл бұрын

@@ddave7026 He ripped them off by coming up with all the ideas and then giving Kirby and Ditko full credit for their contributions?

@christopherhammond5142

3 жыл бұрын

A baby and bathwater smoothie? That worries me a bit.

@guilhermeferraz9954

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know anything about Image Comics?

5:34 Todd's little rant about what scares him personally in a villain always fascinated me, because it's literally him describing Jason Wyn from the Spawn show and comics.

“It’s obviously my creation” basically Stan and Jack Kirby’s entire career together

@BLASTER0913

10 ай бұрын

I’m convinced that Stan didn’t create a single character it was all Kirby but since Stan was in the same city at the time of creation… “It’s obviously a collaboration… so I get the credit for this character.”

@mero7731

7 ай бұрын

@@BLASTER0913that’s honestly how people sound nowadays 😂

@lordpsi99

3 ай бұрын

Yes, that was the joke that Stan made. But later he clarified that the artists made something better than he imagined and they've always gotten credit. Stan is just better talking about stuff in front of the public and to fans and I think Jack was shy, right? I've seen enough raw talks from Stan to know that he really had an exceptional expertise about superheroes, even showing up in documentaries about DC characters. And apparently, he was the one who wanted to bring Super Sentai to the west after seeing what the people who made Supaidaman (official Japanese Spider-Man) made afterwards.

@dante_0962

3 ай бұрын

@@BLASTER0913 No as we see in this video both of them did. Unless it’s a massive coincidence he was involved with the biggest franchise of all time. Plus people like Jack Kirby and JRSR aren’t known for their writing ability.

@BLASTER0913

3 ай бұрын

@@dante_0962 So. Stan was in a plane flying above the city where Kirby and Ditko created a character so therefore he also gets credit for the character. That’s how Stan was. A fraud. Took credit for everyone else’s work and ideas.

"The kids like chains." No, no, I think YOU like chains, Todd.

@whensomethingcriesagain

4 жыл бұрын

"They seem to"

@raidenex3065

3 жыл бұрын

Hey results don't lie

@petehakkinen3020

2 жыл бұрын

Chains are very impractical to wear, I've got stuck in something so many times.

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

Image if there are two children talking about how radical chains are and the only reason why they read comics is because of or any media no chains? Not gonna watch/read/play it

@HiBuddyyyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think they’re people who talk to kids they know?

Stan wants to make a character. Todd and Rob want to make a product.

"no need to fight over it, it's obviously my creation" And they got Stan Lee'd, just like Jack Kirby

@bremensims6086

5 жыл бұрын

Poor Jack Kirby

@Jose-se9pu

5 жыл бұрын

Stan was the co-creator of every single Marvel character Jack ever drawed.

@snakes3425

5 жыл бұрын

Unlike Jack these two deserved it

@Ratchet2431

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jose-se9pu The Eternals.

@elgatochurro

3 жыл бұрын

@@snakes3425 deserved? They created ther crappiest piece of shit ive seen... Korra is written better as a hero

For the amount of times Stan made the joke about owning this character, it sure didn't stop Todd from adding a T into the name and stealing it within the first 6 issues of SPAWN

@user-vz5wu8ty3z

2 жыл бұрын

Overtkill is such an unwieldy name

@stefersondigiorgio

2 жыл бұрын

stealing?

You have to love how Lee says he wants a hero but gives them the name Overkill. There is such beauty in that. It absolutely went over these two morons' heads because they fall right into the trap. Lee gave them an out with the hero part, but they just go right for what everyone knew they would go for. Overkill. Stan the Man Lee.

@D_Fyre

5 жыл бұрын

He definitely did his homework and had some theories he wanted to test.

@paulahaunt

4 жыл бұрын

I think Todd got the joke. 10:11

@joshkaid

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulahaunt I think he THOUGHT he got the joke. Like, I get the feeling watching this that Todd picked up on the fact that Stan was low key roasting them, but didn't know exactly what he was roasting them for.

Stan lee is the best. His comments are hysterical

@lukaccakic5542

3 жыл бұрын

Not really ..

I like Todd and Leifeld's art honestly - they're the equivalent of 80's action movies, pure sugar and nacho cheese. That being said though, they REALLY needed collaborators as Stan said, they have 0 eye for making compelling characters with interesting details/backstories.

@petehakkinen3020

2 жыл бұрын

@Noah zzstu Smith Liefeld hasn't learned how to draw feet (among many other things) in 30 fucking years, that's not a fine artist.

The kids love chains

@myndlink

6 жыл бұрын

manbearpigneil84 ...and whips too!

@thehomelander1146

6 жыл бұрын

and pouches

@JD-ud9qt

5 жыл бұрын

They dont like feet though...

@0newingedcrow

5 жыл бұрын

@@JD-ud9qt If only Rob Liefeld had practiced harder...

@jaytheartman610

4 жыл бұрын

@@JD-ud9qt *Quinton Tarantino has entered the chat*

What Stan described with Overkill is basically a PG-13 Punisher. Tough, but not violent. Rough, but still a hero. And this is what Todd and Rob came up with. Because they took the name and ran with it, without listening to Stan's notes. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But when Stan tried to habe them think of story beats, or background info, they didn't do jack shit. THAT was what Stan was trying to prove. Not that their art is shit (which it is, for the most part), but that they don't come up with characters. Story is secondary to what's on the cover. And that was proven in the first second, because the first thing Todd was draw the font for what would be the cover. He didn't think for a second, "who is this character and what kind of logo would fit him." He thought, "what looks the coolest." I mean, even Todd's SIGNATURE is over the top and ridiculous. Stan Lee was not a perfect man. Lord knows he's made mistakes. But he knew EXACTLY what he was doing here. And Rob and Todd had no idea what kind of booby trap Stan just laid at their feet.

@designave

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. And it wasn't a booby trap. They ARE overkill

"He's tough, but he's not violent" they laughed. I can confidently say that wasn't a joke.

Stan: His name is Overkill, so I want you to make him tough and gritty. Todd and Rob: Let's make him thicc.

Take a shot every time Todd says "The kids will love it" or "The kids love X"

@Actual-Knight

4 жыл бұрын

congratulations, this comment killed me

@gannielukks1811

2 жыл бұрын

And Todd love kids

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

Todd: guys I just thought of a new superhero…. X chains like I’m going to exchange my fist to your face, because children love chains

"Does he have a double identity? Is he really a meek accountant in real life?" Wow, I would totally read that. A thin dorky accountant turning into what he thinks is a cool edgy badass. Only he's still kinda dorky even with all that over the top edge lord trash.

@GyrosLeftSteelBall

Жыл бұрын

That’s just Duke Nukem

Laughing so hard that they weren't going to draw his feet until Stan told them to do so.

"A Liefeld character without shoulder pads is almost naked" LMAO.

The creator of Spider-Man, the creator of Deadpool and the creator of Spawn collaborating on a character. Now that's something, that you could only get to see in the 90s.

26:39 "You guys have ruined us, we've decided to give up comics and we're going into show bizz".......Witnessed Stan inventing the MCU

@oldcowbb

4 жыл бұрын

he has nothing to do with creating mcu

@LarryHazard

4 жыл бұрын

@@oldcowbb he tried to make marvel movies decades before X-men and Spider-man

You can really tell that every single commenter on this video never watched this series. Stan Lee and Todd were very close to one another. In this series (comic book greats) Stan even says that Todd changed the way comic book art was done with depth and perspective.

@floatingdisembodiedhead8975

2 ай бұрын

That's good to hear. Its hard seeing people take sides between these three. They are legends in their own right. They paid their dues, their time in the sun is done. No need to paint them negatively.

@Paugose

2 ай бұрын

There's even an episode where Stan Lee is just chilling with Todd and his wife. I think modern people are so used to incredibly passive behavior that seeing two friends going a bit harder than usual on the banter is "roasting" and "destroying" them.

@Duckas

2 ай бұрын

@@Paugose That's very true. It's crazy cause that's how older generation showed there friendship, they would bust each other's balls for fun. The moment that banter stopped the relationship died.

todd mcfarlane "he's gotta be a guy, he's gotta be huge" literally the only two things in your drawing vocabulary

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

And shoulder pads, don’t forget pouches either

@IGRETRO

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t sound like a compliment

As a kind from an abusive household in the 90s, Spawn was the coolest comic to me. I couldn't relate as much to marvel's more middle-class functional family comics.

the michael bay of comic books = rob liefeld.

Rob wants shoulder pads, Tod wants chains, Stan claims ownership after thinking of the name 🤓

RIP Stan. Great sense of humor and a complete savage at times.

That's crazy. Overt-Kill was a Spawn character, and I had an action figure of him way back in the day. Had no idea that this was basically the creation, and Todd just added a T to the name.

I know people are laughing at Stan's remark to Todd and Rob. But I can't stop thinking that Todd was one of the very last guy to see Stan Lee alive. On McFarlane's way out of the hospital or nursing home (don't recall it correctly), Stan told him something along the lines of "Thank you, Todd. Your visits bring me much more than any of these nurse treatment".

Overkill died in Infinity War

@timmneeley4301

4 жыл бұрын

Spawn killed him

@fixedflipper646

4 жыл бұрын

Yay

I think we're all glossing over the real star of the show here - Todd's canary yellow Mr. Rogers sweater. Though I like how Stan had to remind them to draw the feet.

How nice of stan Lee to take the time to hang out with children trying to get into comics!

Can he stop saying "the kids" every 5 sentences.

@Morgil27

8 жыл бұрын

I'm only 30, and yet lately I've been finding myself saying that a lot lately. God, I feel old.

@brentshira3373

5 жыл бұрын

You ARE old

@MakoHazard

5 жыл бұрын

It's a deflection of responsibility. It makes him look selfless while at the same time means it's not necessarily what he wants, but what "the kids" want. Really fucking obnoxious and transparent. In reality he doesn't give a fuck about what "the kids" want and these were his and rob's ideas alone.

@elgatochurro

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakoHazard nah, it's Stan's, either way its crap

@mikemars2112

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakoHazard You're taking something fun and turning it into negativity. Get out of here with that.

“He shoots through his chest?” Lol love the tone when stan said that

god McFarlane joking about "haha we'll be in court years later arguing over the rights! (8:30)" aged super horribly

_"This is the first-time these guys have heard OverKill."_ No Stan, I dont think that's true at all.

Lee: We're gonna donate this drawing to charity. Liefeld and McFarlane: Good. Then, we're gonna get a movie deal, and it'll become the next teenage mutant ninja turtles, and we'll sue each other. The kids are gonna love us!

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

As a 17 year old I gotta say I never heard about them until I watch a bunch of comic book KZreadrs talk about them. So yeah it’s like that one quote that Patrick once said… it didn’t work

"You can draw and think at the same time?" God Stan Lee is killing me here.

The quality of the video just screams community cable channel. Like this was aired live on sunday at 8:30am. in Muskogee, Arkansas. True Believers. RIP Stan Lee.

Why are people trying to cover for Rob Liefeld? His male and female characters are LITERALLY the same as each other: scowling, crumpled faces with little to no real eyes, gritting teeth openly almost 24/7, all super-jacked up (in both muscles AND proportions), pounches, guns, etc. His artwork is fucking ugly, quite frankly, and the only people backing his ass up are nostalgia-blinded from the 90's "EXTREEEEME" phase. Spawn and Deadpool are TWO creations of Image that came out okay, and Rob Liefeld isn't even RESPONSIBLE for making Deadpool as popular as he is. It was the work of OTHER writers.

@dizzydoom4230

7 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Sokolowski Because his style is not a good one to emulate. Very bizarre. horrid proportions, constant gritting of teeth and blank white eyes, overuse of pouches, obsession with guns, etc. Also, it was still Rob Liefeld who created Deadpool's appearance, and yet, it was other writers who made him a good character.

@Clide0_0

7 жыл бұрын

Dizzy Doom his style isnt the problem its what he thought the character should act like in main run. Most of his characters like this one are just power fantasies which made comics complete garbage for a while

@dizzydoom4230

7 жыл бұрын

XxBeastlyGodxX Which is why I resent his style, not only in his artwork but in his writing. It all screams of excess, with no substance.

@kevarosenberg

6 жыл бұрын

It's an old(man) argument I been listenin to since the early 90's. It doesn't matter. Kids liked it. They boosted the appeal and market for comics when it needed the boost back then. They even dared to go it alone and do their own thing, which they got flack for in this video from Stan. Lighten up

@spaceghostvibes9712

6 жыл бұрын

He reinvented the way the xmen costumers where vs the original corny look . He also make cable

All the jokes about copyrights lol and Todd actually used this character! classic!

@punkpinata7062

4 жыл бұрын

Noooo Todd didn't use this character. This character is Overkill. Todd's character was Over*t*kill. Completely different. Ahh you gotta love Todd McFarlane.

20:58 this is what im impressive about stan lee. Despite his passive aggressive comments he still manage to give their character more personality that’s how he got his point across by giving impressing them and basically showing them that character creation is more important instead of gadgets.

I mean, to be fair, the character really does fit the name

"The kids like chains!" lol

@IGRETRO

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, bikers were popular among the teenagers from 90s

I love these videos. Seeing the dynamics between Stan the publisher and Todd and Rob has creators is incredible. When you know the history that played out between them seeing this interaction gives a huge insight to the type of tensions that underline their relationships.

@kevarosenberg

6 жыл бұрын

I know, this is classic, knowing the history. Reminds me of being on LSD with people a lot older and more experienced who were either jealous or plain did not like seeing me have my fun. The punishment and then a fluid witty retaliation that rolls off the tongue exactly when needed hehe

@MrTrenttness

6 жыл бұрын

Kit Zoey Umm..... yeah. It just like that.

@gregoneill2817

6 жыл бұрын

In some of the other videos from this series, Todd even mentions Image comics a couple times. As many times as Stan goes out of his way to take credit for co-creating this drawing, I'm surprised there wasn't a comment out of Stan about it

@bd4597

10 ай бұрын

hahahahaha@@kevarosenberg

"Oh don't bash the poor artists!" First, Rob Leifeld is an artist, but a poor one. I'm not saying technique, cus technically, his linework is ok, etc, but his research and referencing is shit. Second, this isn't just about them being artists, this is about being character creators. Sure, they're brainstorming, but Stan is trying to help them out with character development and they just ignore it.

Stan hits the nail on the head when he talks about robs way of doing characters haha

The amount of shade Stan throws in this is hilarious!

Getting away from the ruthless methodical murder happening here, this really sounds like a fun challenge for artists/writers. What comes to your mind when you hear "Overkill"? Is it anything at all like what these two made? Should try this out with some friends...

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

To me sounds like someone is over killing like they don’t want to kill anymore and wants to do things more peacefully.

“A lifeld character without shoulder pads is almost naked “ I know why Stanlee modeled Spider-Man after himself he’s hilarious

I would read a comic about a character called Overkill, but it's a skinny naked guy and everyone is terrified of him for reasons unclear.

@ElvenSonic

2 жыл бұрын

One Punch Man’s King is pretty close to that concept, but his whole thing is looking threatening and intimidating on accident. so the reasons aren’t exactly unclear.

Fun watching Todd and Stans inflated egos battle each other

@brentshira3373

5 жыл бұрын

What the fuck are you talking about? Your jealousy is sickening

@bremensims6086

5 жыл бұрын

@@brentshira3373 Jack Kirby would like to politely disagree

@Jose-se9pu

5 жыл бұрын

@@bremensims6086 Jack's ego was bigger that Stan's, he not only said he created all the characters by himself (he didnt), he went as far as to say he created Spiderman, insulting Steve Ditko in the process.

@bremensims6086

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jose-se9pu Jack Kirby would like to politely disagree

Todd: “He needs a cape like three times the length of his body! Ooo, and one boot needs to be freakishly larger than the other one!”

God.. Todd's laugh

@floydsmith7747

7 жыл бұрын

Mate, I'm spewin' every time. 'Hegh hegh hegh hegh' hahahaha

@ChronicBreakdown

6 жыл бұрын

Alex B I know lol. "Hu hew hu hew hu hew"

@mycontentcreation5264

2 жыл бұрын

I think when God was creating him, he accidentally put a goose voice box in and didn’t realise until it was to late.

"legs are important", so are feet, Rob 😂🙈

"I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I'm just trying to put you on the spot.

These are so good! Such a neat look at their process 💪

"Stan, you're 91? You don't look a day over 89!"

According oxford dictionary- OVERKILL is an excessive use, treatment, or action; too much of something.

The video should be titled Stan Lee trolls Todd McFarlane & Rob Liefeld for 30 min lol

Liefeld's work first seemed cool--to kids who had no idea that his characters had way too many teeth, fucked up hands and feet, and funhouse-distortions in their proportions. I look back and I cringe. And what's with all the pouches? I also hate the day they scammed kids with their multiple covers. Disgusting .

@IGRETRO

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, so you go ahead and show your body of work, a successful company and a respectful place in the comic book industry, mister expert. I don’t see any amazing art on your page.

@giantfightingroboto

Жыл бұрын

@@IGRETRO I'm sure Rob appreciates you defending him over an 8 year old comment

You have Stan, a man who worked with the best artists in the world (including Jack freaking Kirby) co-creating the most popular comic book characters in history, seeing these two clowns not making a character, but making something that they could put on a cover, and knew little kids would buy because "it was cool". At least McFarlane says "kids like it", he knew what he was doing, but you can see Liefield was annoyed by Stan... Glad Stan Lee at least putted them in their place, pointing out how absurd the design was., and is actually funny how Stan, by just looking at this thing (21:00), actually though of a better background story for him that the two creators of it.

"Not a guy you would mess with" Well if i throw a couple of insults his way and then run away at a mild pace whats he gonna do catch me?

Amazing video. Watching the previous videos with these guys, you can see how Stan loved getting them together to create something new for him.

Good to know I'm not the only one who can't draw feet.

@Tyler_Takahashi

4 жыл бұрын

@lightning crashes an old mother dies lmao

24:55...my favorite part..love it when Stan says that

"Oh, this guy's THICC"