For a censored and uncut version of the video you can check out kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJeNp8qlksm_YJM.html Heres a comment from my boss. -"This fire was on my farm. So maybe I can help with some of what’s going on here. First, the fire extinguishers everybody seems to think we should be using are empty, we used them all just getting the combine into the fallow. There was a tractor and disc active on the fire, it burned very little farm ground. People have a hard time rationalizing what’s going on who have never been in a situation like this, but from the time the header caught fire to the point we unhooked it was less than 3 minutes. There wasn’t time for anything other than to save what we could, keep the crew safe and get out of the way. A lot of experience and fast thinking saved millions of dollars of harvest equipment this day. Save your opinions, I promise you don’t know what you're talking about."

@stephenkennedy9322

Жыл бұрын

Great Job 👍 Most of us me anyway completely understands what you went thru 🔥 🚜

@HippieLettuce143

Жыл бұрын

So what happened? What was the cause? The draper doesn’t just light up.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

@@HippieLettuce143 Bearing failed

@HippieLettuce143

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers sorry to hear that. I was wondering if it was the vulcanized rubber roller that spins the Draper. Thank you for replying again sorry to see that.

@Len_M.

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers It wasn’t smoking before it burst into Flames? No Squealing from the Bearing?

Props to the operator for pointing away from the wind. That single-handedly saved the combine.

Some guys in our area (North Central Montana) have started hanging a 200-400 gallon water tank under the right front corner of their grain cart, with a hose reel and a hydraulic powered water pump. It's always in the field, always has an operator, and is one of the fastest things in the field. Everyone has water trucks, but they are usually unmanned and sitting at the end of the field, so take longer to get to the fire.

@dequavisjones4869

Жыл бұрын

Thats a really good idea.

@cristiarion3138

Жыл бұрын

​ @Dequavis Jones In my country Moldova you cant work with combine if you dont have a water tank in around on the field ans asame its in Romania Because its safety first !

@oscarhalle2115

Жыл бұрын

Ppp000 lol lol ok ok 0

We had a problem with Fire in Australia, Queensland and NSW during the Harvest and it was imperative to make sure that the header and the combine were kept clean and clear at all times. The idea of a water tank attatched to the Combine is a great one, one that we should consider.

I'm glad you guys are all OK. Thank you for showing us city people a side of farming that is rarely seem. Your reflexes are fantastic. I don't think I would have had the presence of mind to grab a camera and start recording once that header started burning!

So glad all are ok, great job saving the combine. Maybe worth purchasing a set of welding gloves for each of the combines in this situation trying to take off a burning head.

Well played. I've been through only a couple of those and watching your video brought back the sheer terror of the event even after 40 years!. So glad it turned out as well as it did.

Damn excellent save! With the way the wind blows out there and how dry it is. That was close. I'm in Idaho bout 3 hours south east of y'all.

FROM AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺 ♥️ SO pleased you guys were able to get the header away from the reel. Hydraulic oil 🛢 is dangerous. It looks bad now but you will be able to repair the front, they are too expensive to replace. I had an old header burnt and we were able to get it going again. So pleased none of you guys got hurt. I hope you all recover well. CHEERS

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

We shall see. Theres usable pieces on it still, but that steel got a bit hot youd think? Helluva project to repair one to that extent. They arent the best to begin with

@kmac7504

Жыл бұрын

As a mechanic who works on these nearly every day I wouldn’t even think about fixing that, take one look and it’s an instant right off. The time, money and availability of some of the parts just isn’t viable. And I guarantee you after that amount of heat the front will never be the same again, Things will have warped and all sorts.

Sucks to see the head burn up like that. Glad you were able to get the power unit outta the way. Best of luck on the recovery end of things. Take care.

I know it's a difficult time. Here we unload the cereal from the hopper of the combine on the fire covering it completely. That suffocates the flames. Greetings from Argentina.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

You dump grain on the fire? That is effective? I would never have thought of that.

@OxAO

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers To little would cause a larger fire. To much fuel would smother it.

Good job boys saved that high dollar combine, compared to that head, y’all get the win 👊 kept cool and got er unhooked 👌 that’s crazy I’ve never seen the head catch fire before, I’ve seen a few combines burn but never the head!!

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Ty!

Yesterday, I watched a video from the Farm Progress Show in Iowa. Unverferth has an 250 gallon water tank, with hose, available for some of their grain carts. Here is the ideal situation for that.

@toledojeeper2932

Жыл бұрын

I would never spray water at grain chaff , you will spread the fire .

@davebullock3517

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that it’s possible to put water on a fire, without using enough pressure to blow shit everywhere.

@toledojeeper2932

Жыл бұрын

@@davebullock3517 ...All I know is what I saw when we hit our combine with water and then what happened when the fire department got there . The fire went from the front of the combine to the rear in a matter of seconds when water was used . It seemed the more water they used the bigger the fire got , then eventually the fire went out . We now only carry chemical extinguishers in the combine .

@davebullock3517

Жыл бұрын

@@toledojeeper2932, as a firefighter, I’ll agree, that if they hit it with about 100psi or more, it would definitely spread burning material. You need to use a higher volume of water to allow the material to get wet on initial attack.

@j.e.honiball1327

Жыл бұрын

@@toledojeeper2932 could it be that a hydraulic hose was ruptured and the water spread the already burning oil? That being said, chemical extinguishers would prevent that situation entirely but a water truck will still put out the resulting field fire if some discretion is used.

After having two of them happen to us this is why you always keep your spray truck with water in the field because nowadays this stuff goes up like a Roman candle with all the plastic rubber and wiring in them and your out of town fire departments might not get there for a half hour be safe and hope you have a good rest of your harvest.

@fraidykat

Жыл бұрын

Another post here suggested mounting a 200 or 400 gallon water tank, pump and hose reel right on the combine itself. When you need it, it's already there where it needs to be. Gotta keep it charged though.

Good save, getting the combine unhooked. Glad no one got hurt

I don't know these people and was very relieved to see the combine saved

4:02, that'll buff right out, lol, good job saving the machine!

Sorry for the loss. But great job the guys saving the combine.

Sad to see a farmer lose a piece of equipment if not for a farmer we don't eat

This is awsome teamwork under high-stress and countless dangers present . Great job! I consider this a trainning video every field boss should show the crew!

This same thing happened to us a few years ago. Luckily we were next to Some fallow also.

Excelentní práce chlapi, zachránili jste mlátičku od plamenů a popela, lištu vem čert....

Still working as of today! Thank you!

That socks. Glad you save the combine and no one got hurt.

Conveyor belt headers the damned dummest things manufacturers ever came up with. Had enough hassles with belts thirty years in the seed industry not to mention all the dirt and garbage out in the field.

Great job saving the 780. That took some quick thinking unders crazy stress. And to those saying that he should put down the camera, first you don't know what happened before the camera was turned on and the head was a total loss before then. Second, if he had put the camera down what would you suggest he do?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Yay. Thank you for that. We had attempted to save the header and the field multiple times. I even cut the part of the video where i threw the phone down and tried to do more. It was a loss as far as we thought when I started recording. Putting out a rubber fire with a couple extinguishers is futile it seems.

@ToddKing

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers You could see by the time the camera was turned on that the header was already a total loss and the field was way beyond where you guys were going to be able to control it. I think the anonymity of the internet plus a keyboard just makes to many people stupid and mean.

It's sad to lose an equipment how much more one that you use to put food on the table. Credit for saving the harvester. Farming is life

sad part is you probably stuck trying to replace that header with whatever is out there used because new is multiple years out

It almost seems that I am explaining to them that it is on fire. I am not. I am explaining to the viewers. I am fine no one was hurt.

@zacharbert6604

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, did the friction from the feeder belt on the left side ignite the dry material going in? It does not take much. Can you guys get a lease header to finish your harvest? Prayers that you guys can, got to get the crop in.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharbert6604 It's hard to say what failed. Something in the center of the header, most likely a bearing went bad and the friction from that was hot enough to start the chaff on fire. Yes. we had 3 combines running at the end today. The one with no header had to sit out. Thank you!@

@SouthernCrates

Жыл бұрын

Much thanks to the American Farmer for providing for America. But it does suck watching that burn. But it’s what insurance is for

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

@@SouthernCrates Absolutely. Things can be replaced. People cant. My dads speech and so did my current employers include that at the beginning of each season..

@johnanderson2451

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers Trevor I don’t know for sure, you may have had al lot of material built up under the Draper . I have ran these headers since the early 90s and the conditions have to be just right to build static and if I was going to guess that is what I would say, if it was a bearing, the Draper would go and stop. Not ruling it out that it could be. Static is one of those things that might be a problem one day out of the year.

Dude that was close 😅. Glad everyone and combine is A-ok 👌

Only liked the video because the combine was saved and no one was hurt.

It amazes me that fire suppression systems ain't a common/standard thing on combines and larger tractors. Sure it would add cost but would it save shit tons of machines yes.

@aidenmagnuson2609

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t matter, combines burn extremely fast, and no amount of water of retardant could stop it

@Bigsoot7393

Жыл бұрын

You have them on the combine but not on the header

@ChevyConQueso

Жыл бұрын

With the way the wind blows in open country like that, it strikes me that with an open machine like a header, you're probably not going to be able to choke it out. Perhaps it's possible with a high volume of foaming/expanding liquid of some kind. The combine itself with all of it's covers is an easier proposition for sure.

If you do have water extinguishers, put dish soap in them. It helps foam up and put out much more than the water alone. Regardless, a fire like this is very difficult to contain, and can move quickly with high temperatures and wind. Fast thinking all around resulted in a lot of money saved. Damn good thing a tractor and disc was handy to put out the field (Per the comments below), people have used plows to save buildings and farmsteads many times in the past.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

No way? I'll have to inform the powers that be then! Thanks!

Would those big fields sprayers be hard to adapted to use as standbys for fires...you'd have over a 1000 gallon water supply

@fraidykat

Жыл бұрын

But miles away when you need it. the better option appears to be to mount a tank, pump and reel right on the combine. They're big enough for it, then you have the water right there when you need it.

How lucky to have managed to get the harvester platform off..

Always painful to watch, expecting it to be faster getting the header off.. yet in reality, you all busted ass pretty quick 👍

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. This was all after a lot of tense moments near standing wheat up the hill.

Need to stop and clean out the headers, check bearings, grease shafts instead of going full bore all the time.. an hour of preventative maintenance is worth more than the cost of a new combine. Need to slow down during harvesting, been there done that.

Glad nobody was hurt

Чтобы не возникали такие проблемы на поле должен дежурить трактор с бочкой воды и шлангом и все можно было быстро потушить .✌️✌️✌️🇷🇺 Всем удачи и хорошего урожая !!!

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Google Translate помог мне прочитать ваш комментарий. Спасибо за совет. Мы рассмотрим это.

Good job saving the combine.

Seeing more and more combines with a couple hundred gallons of water on board with a hose reel and a pump. I've also seen people rig up combines with race car style dry chemical fire suppression systems.

Even after all these years they still catch on fire and burn like no other piece of farm equipment and so easily.

@purepatriotism2325

Жыл бұрын

All the dust

@darwinjohnsgaard9938

8 ай бұрын

On five separate occasions we had smoldering and caught it but each time it was static that caused the problem. We always dragged two chains and thought we were grounded to drain off the buildup from internal friction. Eventually we realized the chain was giving us a false sense of security and was doing nothing because of inconsistent continuity we found out testing with an ohm meter. Put a staticable system on and haven't had a static event in 10 years. Simple but effective . Most everyone in our area is using them and combine fires and electronic problems have all but disappeared from static.

What don't they teach anywhere? Yes, at least it's a harvester preserved....

:( OUCH, THANK THE LORD EVERYONE IS SAFE. Farming is said to be the most dangerous job, this is proof.

Is it caused on stones (little ones, so driver can't see)hitn' by the knives? Happens while you "hillmaster"- ing the jop.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Coulda been. It wasnt really rocky where we were at. We are not sure of the cause. Definitely was the header though. Lol

Sending praying for you and the 🧯🧯🧯🧯🧯🔥🚒🔥🚒🌧️💧☔🙏💌🤳

Kinda wish they had something where if you're header is on fire you can automatically drop and disconnect on the go

@fraidykat

Жыл бұрын

And a tank, pump and reel on the combine to then fight it once disconnected?

That's crazy. And I imagine just that header alone probably costs more than a brand new sedan.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

100-125k usd

Cook tractor parts has a combine salvage yard in clinton Missouri they will prolly buy what's left they are good people and will prolly pay better then anyone.

Glad you saved the combine

How did it catch fire

Thank God u got the header disconnected

Horrible sight, but so glad no one got hurt and the combine was saved

Good save. Glad no one was hurt

So, a draper head can catch fire, has its own oil to burn, and is a bitch to unhook when it is burning. No draper header for me.

Молодцы, спасли комбайн.

insurance looked after it? or was it on warranty?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Insurance covered it, and would have covered the combine if we were to have lost both the head and machine. That's what insurance is for, so you dont have to do what we did.

We got a fire…here let me take the time to video it and fumble around with a fire extinguisher with one hand. 😅

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Yes

The worst thing about hillco combines are the manual header pins

It can be rebuilt. Metal don't burn.

Awesome 😎

Hey be glad it was just the combine head and not the whole combine. Thank God everyone is safe though. However it might be a good idea to do some fire Extinguisher drills and inspect your Extinguisher every year to make sure they're in good working order. Just a thought.

As often as I see videos of combine fires, I wonder why they don't have a fire suppression system on them like we have in race cars? They can certainly put big enough fire bottles on a combine to snuff out fires before they get big enough to do a lot of damage.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Smart thinking. We are seriously looking at getting a tender for the bankouts. 250 gallons may be enough to put something out. Our fire extinguishers are rarely enough if theres flames.

@vrfarmerguy

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers if you do get a system it will have to be something with that fire suppression foam. That is the only stuff I have ever seen that immediately smashes a tire fire or burning oil.

@ChevyConQueso

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorStruthers Extinguishers are always too small it seems. Whenever I see a small kitchen sized one on a machine I laugh. People don't realize how fast they go empty.

Guess he does not know how to use the fire extinguisher..

I had a piece of equipment that caught fire and it was a bad bearing in the grease and the bearing got hot enough that started the fire and then with the the dust from the the crops help spread the fire made it bigger and it took off from there

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

This is what we believe happened to us as well

Also a simple air hose dust off once a day will keep things like this from happening usually but there are a lot of variables bearings and gearboxes that go out hydraulic hoses bust a lot of different things can cause a fire but I worked in the combine Salvage for a couple years and have worked on Farm Equipment my entire life nine times out of 10 it's a lack of maintenance. I'm sure lack of maintenance was probably not the cause of this fire. The gearbox that runs the sickle bar is a terrible design in all Draper heads case MacDon deere. But who really knows sorry about your luck fellas but for the most part you guys took care of business and didn't lose the combine too. It use to break my heart to see a burnt s780 or a case 9250 come in on a truck burnt. I know the lose at hand and a lot of small time farmers would be out of business if this were to happen to them. I wish everyone had to work a season on a farm once in their life ......💯

There's alot to be said for having a few slurry tankers full of water sitting on the headlands?

good job

Kind of surprising none of these Farmers have water trucks I see this a lot

Does the dust catch fire an start the fire?

@TrevorStruthers

5 ай бұрын

The straw on the head caught fire when one of the roller bearings on the head went out.

He literally got fired from that job. 😂

where was this?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Waitsburg washington

are no ready water tank traktors? ohh no!

But how come?? Wild 🔥

get ahold of AKE safety euipment about their exstinguishers. you will be glad you have them. you mite have had a salvagable head if you would have had em. at least check em out

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

I will pass it along ty

At least no-one was injured

How does a header catch fire?

@TrevorStruthers

8 ай бұрын

It was a failed bearing that lit some wheat stuck in the header on fire, which lit the belt and the rest is history

Can we donate you?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Theres super thanks functionality i believe but i am not sure how it works. We dont have a patreon or anything.

A lot of fire extinguishers are a lot cheaper

Where did tis happen?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Dixie and waitsburg WA

That header must have a lot of plastic parts and canvas. Plastic is wonderful. Good advertising for MacDon.

@kmac7504

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter what brand front it is, they all burn the same.

@scottrayhons2537

Жыл бұрын

@@kmac7504 mine wont burn. It don't have canvas or tires. Metal doesn't burn.

@kmac7504

Жыл бұрын

@@scottrayhons2537 sure but take a look at 90% of new fronts. All the same unless it's an auger front

@scottrayhons2537

Жыл бұрын

@@kmac7504 I don't want any new junk cause its all just junk

@kmac7504

Жыл бұрын

@@scottrayhons2537 but it will out harvest your old front I guarantee

Scrap iron now good save on combine

What Started The Fire ?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

A bearing on the center belt started some chaffe on the header which lit the belt on fire

I feel bad I have 3 of those and we’re renting 4 for me and I’m 11

How did it started

@TrevorStruthers

5 ай бұрын

Header roller bearing went out on one of the belts and it lit the straw stuck on the bottom of the header. They have water tankers behind their bankout wagons now.

Also good excuse to get a fd2

maybe you should mount a 100 gallon tank to the combine with a pump system to a header on the combine head.

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

A russian said the same thing.

Guy's, who ever told you too use those Dry Power fire extinguishers on a Class A fire is Crazy as Hell. Those extinguishers is used for Class B Fires Fires in flammable liquids, combustible liquids, petroleum greases, tars, oils, oil-based paints, solvents, lacquers, alcohols, and flammable gases. You need a Class A fire extinguisher... Fires in ordinary combustible materials, such as wood, cloth, paper, rubber, and many plastics. Those Dry Powder Extinguishers just smother the fire The other one will cool down the fire and put it out.

@toledojeeper2932

Жыл бұрын

Never spray water at grain chaff , it will go up in flames and spread the fire .

@dobsonrunfarm9329

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, when fighting combine fires, you're potentially dealing with both oil/fuel and dust fires. This one was the exception, mostly dust, usually combine fires are around the engine area with fuel involved.

@scottholbert2742

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the amount of plastics used to keep things lighter now days. They seem to burn even hotter

@joescheller6680

Жыл бұрын

The powder draws to the heat source. Look it up We had a instructor tell us that you spray in the general area and it will find the source

@deannelson9565

7 ай бұрын

So basically what you're saying is you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about when it comes to combines! You realize these big machines have huge hydraulic tank fuel tanks oil sumps all over the goddamn place and grease on damn near everything not to mention DEF!

Dang that’s a bad day. Sorry, glad nobody was hurt.

Such a large machine part, why hasn't it got a fire extinguisher system incorporated that can be activated by the driver? It'd save hundreds of thousands in money.

@Bigsoot7393

Жыл бұрын

You can have them on the machine but not the head as the head has to be able to be removed for travel

@lancespearsman

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigsoot7393 Thanks for your reply, It's just that I've worked in my youthful days manufacturing various machines and some of them required having extinguisher spray bars fitted, these were made in such a way that they were stand alone from the main machine, a cartridge on the detachable part was loaded with an extinguisher and just required a coupler leaver on the detachable part.

EUA?

Least you saved the combine

A couple of caans of spray paint and it will be as good as new

I know the problem you did not have a Deere header. The combine got mad..

@fraidykat

Жыл бұрын

John Deere sent the destruct code update...

Oh shit bro you ok?

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

No one was hurt luckily and the combine was saved.

Well done got it off 👏

For the investment you guys have in equipment a water truck with a fire hose would save you tons of money..

wow... hate to see this. glad you were able to get the combine off.. what started the fire

@TrevorStruthers

Жыл бұрын

Bearing in the center belt got too hot. Lit it on fire

ouch!

New hoses and paint job should be working again.