Colt-Berdan I: Russia's First Military Cartridge Rifle

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In 1867, a Russian delegation came to the United States to source new small arms for the Czar. In addition to purchasing Gatling guns, they met with Hiram Berdan and agreed to purchase a trapdoor single shot rifle he had designed. Berdan had been very active in the years immediately after the Civil War trying to sell breechloading conversions to any interested party, from New York to Egypt. The design that the Russians agreed on was a purpose-built single shot rifle instead of a conversion, chambered for the slightly bottlenecked .42 Berdan cartridge and using an in-line striker instead of the side hammer more common to trapdoor conversions.
Colt would produce 30,000 of these Model 1868 Berdan rifles for export to Russia, with the first example ready in December 1868 and bulk deliveries running from March 1869 until May 1870. Berdan himself immediately set about improving his design, and sold the result to the same Russian delegation in 1870.This was a single shot turnabout action, commonly referred to as the Berdan II.
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  • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
    @PrototypeSpaceMonkey3 жыл бұрын

    Malfunction: Failure to eject Cause: Insufficient Gusto

  • @TrueRainsie

    @TrueRainsie

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drill instructor: No, YOU are a failure to eject!

  • @SlavicCelery

    @SlavicCelery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gusto Glock is known for inventing the pistol. It's why it's so reliable. (clearly not serious...but people will correct me on this one I feel it)

  • @thejackman687

    @thejackman687

    3 жыл бұрын

    According to most 19th century military minds any issue is due to a lack of gusto!

  • @Aelric78

    @Aelric78

    3 жыл бұрын

    Recommended mitigation: Apply more gusto.

  • @HanSolo__

    @HanSolo__

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glock 19 Proudly patented and made since 1919.

  • @steirqwe7956
    @steirqwe79563 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact in Russia "Berdanka" stays as slang for high caliber and/or obsolete hunting rifle to this day.

  • @nikitaponomarev2011

    @nikitaponomarev2011

    Жыл бұрын

    I didnt ever see one russian say it and i russian borned in russia

  • @steirqwe7956

    @steirqwe7956

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nikitaponomarev2011 A z-gen perhaps?

  • @lucasbado2216

    @lucasbado2216

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nikitaponomarev2011 IDK, my dad uses that term and it he was born in the late 70's in the USSR...

  • @user-wd1pd7dd3p

    @user-wd1pd7dd3p

    Жыл бұрын

    More likely any obsolete weapon at all, but yese

  • @thelasttaarakian

    @thelasttaarakian

    Жыл бұрын

    Russia is dumb

  • @shooter575
    @shooter5753 жыл бұрын

    I love this time in history when everyone knew cartridge arms were the future but no one knew in what exact form. Wide open time for inventors.

  • @parzavaal5335

    @parzavaal5335

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wanna go back in time and give ARs and AKs to the US... maybe after the civil war...

  • @c1ph3rpunk

    @c1ph3rpunk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@parzavaal5335 would be good until you needed to get ammo manufactured. Or parts. Or mags.

  • @ColinJMonge

    @ColinJMonge

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@parzavaal5335 check out the book "guns of the south"

  • @justindunlap1235
    @justindunlap12353 жыл бұрын

    They actually have a berdan gold separator at our local frontier museum.

  • @Thy_Boss

    @Thy_Boss

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fer separatin the gold and sech

  • @justindunlap1235

    @justindunlap1235

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Thy_Boss why yes indeed, quite the smart design too, if ya don't mind a little mercury.

  • @hancehanson4000

    @hancehanson4000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justindunlap1235 *What's the name of said-museum? (& locale?)

  • @MarkLaLone

    @MarkLaLone

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hancehanson4000 wouldn't you like to know, weather boy?

  • @hancehanson4000

    @hancehanson4000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkLaLone *'weather'-boy? . . . t'fuck izzah "Weather-Boy"?!

  • @gerryg1056
    @gerryg10563 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely turn of phrase you have Ian, "...and that will bounce the cartridge out, as long as you open it with enough gusto."

  • @sebastianriz4703

    @sebastianriz4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favorite Ianisms is "The whole drum goes kerchunk"

  • @andersjjensen

    @andersjjensen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sebastianriz4703 "I best hold on to this cross pin while I disassemble it or the whole mechanism goes sproing out on the table" is mine.

  • @anzaca1

    @anzaca1

    3 жыл бұрын

    A lot of early cartridge rifles did require you to open the action aggressively to properly eject the case.

  • @ianfinrir8724

    @ianfinrir8724

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@anzaca1 You really had to want it.

  • @matteblack5805
    @matteblack58053 жыл бұрын

    Brings whole new meaning to "shoulder your burdens"

  • @baomao7243

    @baomao7243

    3 жыл бұрын

    The guy is a beast. “Beast of Berden”?

  • @cyth5366
    @cyth53663 жыл бұрын

    I just have to imagine Berdans interactions with Colt. B: I swear I’m not lying the Russians really want 30,000 of this gun. C: what about the 15,000 for New York or the 22,000 for Egypt? B: …

  • @daniilspiridonov

    @daniilspiridonov

    3 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @cyth5366

    @cyth5366

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daniilspiridonov 1:32-1:50 ish

  • @FitzPenn

    @FitzPenn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hiram, are the Russians here with us right now?

  • @allangibson2408

    @allangibson2408

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ask anyone quoting on anything... Russia also got Colt to make manufacturing tooling that the Russians never used (it got adapted in Russia for the Berdan II instead). The Berdan II was 50% faster to load and fire.

  • @zdwaffles

    @zdwaffles

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the only gun you’re allowed to buy in Nys anymore because of the dumbocrats

  • @Vlad-xx8xc
    @Vlad-xx8xc3 жыл бұрын

    No matter how hard I try, the name "Berdan" always brings the primer to my mind.

  • @LukeBunyip

    @LukeBunyip

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Hi I am Othias, and this... ..."

  • @bobthompson4319

    @bobthompson4319

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao I said this in a few videos. You best me to it this time.

  • @rushthezeppelin

    @rushthezeppelin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Broken depriming pins come to mind....

  • @51WCDodge

    @51WCDodge

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rushthezeppelin Yeah, pity he didn't invent something to take the **** primer out!

  • @mrfluffytailthethird

    @mrfluffytailthethird

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ rushthezeppelin hydraulic depriming Is the best way Make a dowel rod that fits the case mouth Fill the case with water and stick it in a case holder and stick the dowel in and smack it

  • @russbilzing5348
    @russbilzing5348 Жыл бұрын

    I've always found it ironic that the European continent should wind up using the rifle primer created by an American and that the US of A should prefer using a primer created by a European.

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko92813 жыл бұрын

    Captain Gunius (Russian spelling, actually Hunnius) was actually a Finnish officer serving in Imperial Russian Army.

  • @bacillusanthracis8399

    @bacillusanthracis8399

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finland was part of the Russian empire until 1917, when there was no Finnish army or Finnish officers ))

  • @thatdude3938

    @thatdude3938

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bacillusanthracis8399 Finnish officers in RIA, what struck you as wrong? Grand Duchy of Finland did exist as a part of RE

  • @jukkatalari3896

    @jukkatalari3896

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bacillusanthracis8399 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Guards%27_Rifle_Battalion

  • @alinanet94

    @alinanet94

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jukkatalari3896 yes, this article says exactly that: "Finnish Guards' Rifle Battalion, it was part of the Imperial Russian Army", as the Grand Duchy of Finland was a part of the Russian Empire.

  • @smithsmithony5401
    @smithsmithony54013 жыл бұрын

    I love how you use time-appropriate flags for all your thumbnails

  • @adambielen8996

    @adambielen8996

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am particularly impressed by his use of the correct Austrian flags. As they had a number of them throughout the 1800s.

  • @laierr
    @laierr3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: in Russia single-shot breechloader rifles still called "Berdanka". Technically, Serbu RN-50 is a sort of berdanka.

  • @zenolachance1181

    @zenolachance1181

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too early

  • @Piromanofeliz

    @Piromanofeliz

    3 жыл бұрын

    It the PTRD a berdanka, too?

  • @laierr

    @laierr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Piromanofeliz PTRD is bolt action. Berdankas can't have a bolt.

  • @Piromanofeliz

    @Piromanofeliz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@laierr but the berdan 2 has a bolt and it is the most famous berdan rifle

  • @laierr

    @laierr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Piromanofeliz well, it's a colloquial name, not an exact technical term. So, technically, I guess, you could call it "berdanka", no one could stop you. There are no rules. But usually, it just means a "cheap-ass single-shot civilian rifle".

  • @Strelnikov403
    @Strelnikov4033 жыл бұрын

    The Berdan is easily one of my favourite antique rifles of all time, if not my favourite. It's just so esoteric and neat.

  • @KOTYAR1

    @KOTYAR1

    3 жыл бұрын

    *берданка* =D

  • @andersjjensen

    @andersjjensen

    3 жыл бұрын

    And this particular example was so nice that you'd hang it on the wall.

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale69013 жыл бұрын

    For being 150 years or so old to my eye that is an rather elegant looking rifle. Might be almost useless as a combat rifle now a days but it sure looks nice

  • @MarvinCZ

    @MarvinCZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Note the words "combat rifle". It could hunt but it would be hopelessly obsolete in combat. It can still put a hole in someone but the battle would be almost over before you got off another round.

  • @sashimanu

    @sashimanu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and no. A hole would be quite sizable and devastating, but there will be no second one.

  • @dragonhealer7588

    @dragonhealer7588

    3 жыл бұрын

    One shot stopping 😊

  • @user-ov7ci8tp8v
    @user-ov7ci8tp8v3 жыл бұрын

    Damn what a beautiful gun.

  • @51WCDodge

    @51WCDodge

    3 жыл бұрын

    Venables was in buissness till 1985. As this was being marketed to probably British Aristocracy, or some rich American Johhny come latley. I'll bet it spent time in the workshop being tarted up. Dazzle = Diamonds :-)

  • @justin42899
    @justin428993 жыл бұрын

    The Russians did convert some of their 1857 six line muzzleloaders to breech loaders. It became known as the Krnka (anglicized to Krenk) in 1867. It was similar to a snider conversion, but whereas that opened to the right the Krnka opened to the left. It had a strange hammer where it was modified to have the striking part cut off, and a new central one placed in to be in line with the central firing pin. Some were still used up to and in the Russo-Turkish war 1877-78. It was not the easiest to use after several shots due to black powder fouling as it was hard to extract casings. These are very difficult to find (at least in the U.S.), and the rounds are practically non-existent. It was specifically a 15.24x40mmR cartridge.

  • @PaulP999

    @PaulP999

    Ай бұрын

    Hey, wait a moment....isn't Krnka the name of the bloke designing these items? A Czech I think, first name Karel? designed some of the earliest self load pistols?

  • @filipnovotny4918

    @filipnovotny4918

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@PaulP999yep

  • @nilsmadej9091
    @nilsmadej90913 жыл бұрын

    Finally! The first Berdan is finally filmed! I have searched so hard bud I couldn't find any, as hard it was already to find anything on Berdan II aside from C&N Arsenal. Thank you Ian for all the great work you're doing!

  • @konstantin88181
    @konstantin881813 жыл бұрын

    So this is why here in Russia people call vintage rifles - "Берданка" [berdanka] =)

  • @atomic_wait

    @atomic_wait

    3 жыл бұрын

    Berdanka donk?

  • @nikitaponomarev2011

    @nikitaponomarev2011

    Жыл бұрын

    Нет я не слышал такое

  • @konstantin88181

    @konstantin88181

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nikitaponomarev2011 подозреваю, что ты много чего не слышал или не знаешь, так как далек от темы

  • @johnib5905
    @johnib59053 жыл бұрын

    Nothing like a Forgotten Weapons video first thing in the morning to start the day!

  • @akyloren10050

    @akyloren10050

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s awesome. I love getting to learn something new every morning

  • @Sam_les_brise

    @Sam_les_brise

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s my afternoon cofee break or my knowledge minutes comiing back from work each day in EU

  • @DGAlpha85

    @DGAlpha85

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or in the evening, after coming home from work.

  • @johnnytrigger5512

    @johnnytrigger5512

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Scott Reynolds 🥱🥱😞

  • @Bluefalconspiracies

    @Bluefalconspiracies

    Ай бұрын

    First thing for me right after coffee enema

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped3 жыл бұрын

    Hiram Berdan: Charrrrggggee! _Soldiers charge_ _Berdan tugs at collar_ Hiram Berdan: Oh would you look at the time! I'm supposed to have a strategy meeting with uh... GOTTAGOBAI!

  • @KenworthW900HG
    @KenworthW900HG3 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully we enjoyed it? When was the last time any of you failed to enjoy one of Ian's videos?

  • @OscarLimaMike
    @OscarLimaMike3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful workmanship. The fit and finish and materials are outstanding.

  • @johannderjager4146
    @johannderjager41463 жыл бұрын

    Always wondered what the first Berdan was, but all I would find is the Berdan II...

  • @ericsundell9978
    @ericsundell99783 жыл бұрын

    This was really cool to see, always wondered what the Berdan 1 actually looked like up close and the history behind it. Thanks for another great video as always.

  • @SteamCrane
    @SteamCrane3 жыл бұрын

    Ian's earlier video on the Berdan 2 is 5 years old, but well done, very worth watching. That Berdan 2 had a rough life, but looked serviceable. Sounds like he may have a more minty one to show us now. Looking forward to it!

  • @m16owner
    @m16owner3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ian for all the amazing work that you’ve done so far and for the work you will do in the future. It’s always a pleasure to watch your content as it is well researched and the production quality is always top notch thanks again

  • @rileyhiggins4753
    @rileyhiggins4753 Жыл бұрын

    I own the Winchester carbine in 44 Russian that the Russian government passed on.

  • @benjaminforman1616
    @benjaminforman16163 жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to find alot of this stuff, I'm glad you've found it

  • @Idelacio
    @Idelacio3 жыл бұрын

    Damn, that wood looks new it's in such good condition.

  • @51WCDodge

    @51WCDodge

    3 жыл бұрын

    Venables was quite a prestigious dealeras up till 1985. Wether that is orignale wood work Iwonder. Being a sthey sold to the Aristocracy I'll bet quite a few man hours in the workshop went into it.

  • @Idelacio

    @Idelacio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@51WCDodge The thought had occured

  • @GCho733
    @GCho7333 жыл бұрын

    When the US had relatively warm relations with Russia...

  • @Kladyos

    @Kladyos

    3 жыл бұрын

    Before the dark times, before the Bolsheviks

  • @ristoalanko9281

    @ristoalanko9281

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was the time when the Russians came with lots of gold to buy LOTS of guns from Colt, Remington, Westinghouse and Smith&Wesson.

  • @kutter_ttl6786

    @kutter_ttl6786

    3 жыл бұрын

    Up until the Bolsheviks came into power the US was a fairly big arms supplier to the Russians. Both Remington and Westinghouse delivered nearly 500,000 Mosin-Nagants to them and the 1911 was a popular pistol (51,000 delivered) that inspired the later Tokarev.

  • @jameskazd9951

    @jameskazd9951

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kutter_ttl6786 and lets not forget one of the coolest lever guns ever, the Winchester 95's chambered in 7.62-54R and took Mosin stripper clips. three hundred thousand made for WW1

  • @adambielen8996

    @adambielen8996

    3 жыл бұрын

    Russia was one of the few countries that openly (and loudly) supported the North during the Civil War. So this obviously created good will.

  • @PatriotsFan7O
    @PatriotsFan7O3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful rifle, Ian. Thanks for sharing this awesome piece of firearms history with us!

  • @natus1
    @natus17 ай бұрын

    It’s another version of the 1873 breech loader rifle Springfield trapdoor rifle

  • @RonnocYad
    @RonnocYad3 жыл бұрын

    The Firearms News magazine from Febuary 2021 has a great article by Paul Scarlata that also talks about the Berdan in Russian service and its use in the Balkins. Awesome photos too.

  • @williamackland7775
    @williamackland77753 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work Ian stay safe out there

  • @GhostMacross01
    @GhostMacross013 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a super rare demonstration of the Berdan trapdoor. The Berdan bolt action was most visible to the point the document info material for Berdan trapdoor was very difficult to obtain.

  • @gregoryrasputin4430
    @gregoryrasputin44303 жыл бұрын

    Ian, I believe you already did a video on Berdan II in 2016, haven't you? great video btw!

  • @martingardener90
    @martingardener903 жыл бұрын

    As Ian Say's - That rifle is really "minty"!

  • @zneytram1432
    @zneytram14323 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this video. Seriously

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz3 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Thanx Ian.

  • @aleksanderpopov5060
    @aleksanderpopov50603 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather had a rifle just like that he kept hidden until 1991, I’m looking for a picture of him with it but as I remember it was a door for cartridge type of a rifle

  • @mihailteplony4155
    @mihailteplony41553 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the Informative video. When it comes to some very old or primitive small arms, then in Russia we still use such a colloquial synonym as "Berdanka". And the russians in the name of the Mosin rifle do not mention the name Nagan at all, unlike the americans. Nagant is famous only for the revolver in Russia.

  • @509Gman

    @509Gman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most of the time we Americans call it just “Mosin” as well, only when being more formal do we add nagant.

  • @MrHws5mp
    @MrHws5mp3 жыл бұрын

    Errrrm, re "we'll do a video on the Berdan II at a later date when I have access to one of those"... you did a video on one in 2016 Ian: it comes up as one of the two recommended videos at the end of this one... :-)

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick47903 жыл бұрын

    "Fun Fact": Ian DOES have a look at the Berdan II in a 2016 video.

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail5453 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sweet. What a nice iteration of the trapdoor system.

  • @DeviantOllam
    @DeviantOllam3 жыл бұрын

    I've always seen cartridges for sale at gun shows or otherwise being referred to as either boxer primed or berdan primed but never honestly thought about the people behind those names. now I wonder if there are other kinds of primer packaging and formatting over the years!

  • @SlavicCelery

    @SlavicCelery

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a whole lot of early style primers. Those two pretty much took over and still rule the roost. One of the early versions of primers you may have already dealt with...paper cap gun. Paper caps are basically primers. And some of the early multiple firing primer systems essentially used the same sort of system.

  • @MarvinCZ

    @MarvinCZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    One style that comes to mind, though not center-fire: The Lefaucheux, aka pinfire cartridge.

  • @benjaminnickerson3961

    @benjaminnickerson3961

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you go to cartridgecollectors.org/?page=glossary and use Ctrl+F to find mentions of primers you'll find enough information to put into a search engine. There's also the "Pistón Internó" and "Otras Sistemas" tabs on old.municion.org with a lot of well condensed information if you don't mind that almost none of it is in English.

  • @xt301
    @xt3013 жыл бұрын

    Not long from now I tried to collect some information about Berdan II, but it didn't go well. I can't wait to learn more from here.

  • @pbr-streetgang
    @pbr-streetgang3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼

  • @diesel7weasel
    @diesel7weasel3 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten weapons did a video on a Berdan II back in 2016

  • @versoarmamentcompany
    @versoarmamentcompany3 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @Uathankicks
    @Uathankicks3 жыл бұрын

    Nice piece of interesting history!

  • @TadVarn
    @TadVarnАй бұрын

    In Lithuania we use a slang term "bardankė" for old huge hunting rifles or smoothbores. Sometimes even as a funny term for our more modern service rifles. Paramilitary union still use some of Swedish G3 - AK4MT, that is a little more obsolete and fits this term better, but is still a very capable gun. That is not in any way an original lithuanian language word and it surely came from russian language slang when held occupied by Soviet Russia 1940-1941 and 1944-1990 and by Russian Empire 1795-1915. Now I understand where EXACTLY this slang came from. Thanks, Ian! And a cheering salute from my DD MK18 for all our American pals and their support for our freedom !

  • @bassassassinnn7459
    @bassassassinnn74593 жыл бұрын

    I'm up early on account of my severely broken ankle. Thank you pain for bringing this to my attention at 5 am!

  • @stefanmolnapor910

    @stefanmolnapor910

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ouch, get well soon!

  • @bassassassinnn7459

    @bassassassinnn7459

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stefanmolnapor910 thanks! It happened Friday and I have yet to be seen by a specialist. I can't stand my American insurance. Fingers crossed I'll get that appointment call today. Cheers.

  • @alonenotlonely1179

    @alonenotlonely1179

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bassassassinnn7459 I'm so thankful that I live in a country that has universal healthcare. Hope that you get your appointment soon.

  • @bassassassinnn7459

    @bassassassinnn7459

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alonenotlonely1179 thanks. Yeah I have full coverage here in California, but so far the doctors seem to have no sense of urgency. 3 broken bones in my ankle, and 3 torn ligaments and tendons. Still have yet to receive any medication to help with the pain. Be very happy for what you have where you're from! I wish I was in that position.

  • @k.t.1641

    @k.t.1641

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alonenotlonely1179 lol that doesn’t mean you don’t have to wait either. Despite what you hear from braggers.

  • @troy9477
    @troy94773 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Don't think i have heard of these. Berdan sounds like a complex character with perhaps a bit of scoundrel mixed in. The period from about 1860 or 62 to the early 1890's (or late 1890's to i clude the 98 Mauser) is a fascinating period of innovation. From paper cartridge muzzleloaders to large bore rimfires to centerfire, trapdoors to single shot bolt actions and then repeaters, black powder to smokeless powder needing special steels.

  • @Strelok762
    @Strelok7623 жыл бұрын

    One of 4 missing from my collection, whoa!

  • @agustinperretta1043
    @agustinperretta10433 жыл бұрын

    Really nice looking rifle

  • @Darth-Nihilus1
    @Darth-Nihilus13 жыл бұрын

    I was looking at one of these for 1/6 scale. I didn’t know that they also chambered it in 7.62X54R.

  • @lonewolftek

    @lonewolftek

    3 жыл бұрын

    There were some conversions of the Berdan II to use 7.62x54R, but all of the Berdan I's were in .42 Berdan (4.2 line or 10.7x58mmR). I can't see this action being adapted to smokeless powder - it's essentially identical to the Springfield model 1873.

  • @225casey1
    @225casey13 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching your videos since the first intro, and with these odd cartridges could you throw up a pic of the bullet for the first bit of you explains the round the firearm uses? I love your vids!

  • @voidsmasher
    @voidsmasher3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks I finally understood what Berdanka is. :)

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser89983 жыл бұрын

    wow what a rifle....

  • @koisrespect2754

    @koisrespect2754

    3 жыл бұрын

    1 MONTH AGO U WRITE

  • @cujotwentysix7519

    @cujotwentysix7519

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@whenyougodown228 Patreon?

  • @jmace5964

    @jmace5964

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why he's called early riser

  • @whenyougodown228

    @whenyougodown228

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cujotwentysix7519 What?

  • @johnjenkins8782
    @johnjenkins87823 жыл бұрын

    Nice locking system!

  • @jimd8008
    @jimd80083 жыл бұрын

    Another interesting story. Thank you

  • @K1W1fly
    @K1W1fly3 жыл бұрын

    As Gold mining history is a real interest of mine, I was familiar with a "Berdan" used in gold processing. I started watching this thinking there was no way this rifle would be related - A real surprise to find they are!

  • @achtunger5528
    @achtunger55283 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing.

  • @wildtoddb2
    @wildtoddb23 жыл бұрын

    In the video you mentioned you would do a video on the Berdan II.... you already have... 5 years ago.

  • @davehurst5784
    @davehurst57843 жыл бұрын

    Good video! That rifle is in fantastic condition, and will probably sell in the 5-digit range...btw, it is listed on the auction as being in "rare .45 caliber" instead of the cyrillic marked Russian issue weapons in 10.66x57r. So, what is the caliber? Fwiw, the Berdan II, 4.2 linya vintovka Berdana obr.1870g, was produced at Birmingham Small Arms, and later at all three Russian Arsenals, not just Izhevsk and Tula. About 3 million were produced, so many many more than the BI.

  • @astridvallati4762

    @astridvallati4762

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Berdan II made by BSA, was with the Machine Tools supplied by Greenwood and Batley of Leeds; this contract was to "Prove" both the design, and The Machinery. G&B Also engineered the machinery to Withworth Inch specs ( Imperial Russia used Inches and Liniya ( 1/10 inch) and 1/10 Linii...ie, 1/100 Inch...the Withworth system introduced the Thousandth of an Inch into Russian Engineering. Tula, Ishevsk, and Sestroryetsk were fully outfitted by G&B for the BdnII, and later, when the Vintovka Mosina was adopted, both the Withworth system and most of the Berdan equipment with modification, as well as New Machines from G&B unique for MN production, were used. Doc AV

  • @AbananaPEEl
    @AbananaPEEl3 жыл бұрын

    It blew my mind when i learned that you could talk about "Berdan" and for three separate things, you can say, "Yes. That Berdan"

  • @Sheevlord
    @Sheevlord3 жыл бұрын

    This particular example is in a remarkably nice condition.

  • @goldenhitmonlee777
    @goldenhitmonlee7773 жыл бұрын

    Yo Ian, I'm super interested on how you feel about the ongoing NGSW program and the rifles involved. Hope u do a vid discussing it

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788Ай бұрын

    Awesome thanks 👍

  • @MrJansenenjansen
    @MrJansenenjansen3 жыл бұрын

    Great gun! Up to the next gem. 🙂

  • @douglasthomashayden2566
    @douglasthomashayden25663 жыл бұрын

    7:55 There's an Oxford in CT, where Hartford is, FWIW.

  • @user-cy1rm5vb7i
    @user-cy1rm5vb7i3 жыл бұрын

    еее, легендарные Берданки)

  • @ivansidorov6464

    @ivansidorov6464

    3 жыл бұрын

    я всегда думал "берданками" называют некоторые из двухстволок, а оказывается это вообще однозарядная винтовка))

  • @KOTYAR1

    @KOTYAR1

    3 жыл бұрын

    еее

  • @thatdude3938

    @thatdude3938

    3 жыл бұрын

    Легендарная это вторая модель

  • @sashimanu

    @sashimanu

    3 жыл бұрын

    (обязательный коммент на русском)

  • @Jesuslolowns
    @Jesuslolowns3 жыл бұрын

    Literally just got to hold one of these a couple days ago, what a coincidence.

  • @Kosake86
    @Kosake863 жыл бұрын

    Uuuh, Ian? You do have a video on the Berdan II already...

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084Ай бұрын

    That rifle is in fantastic shape to be 160 years old.

  • @dwi2921
    @dwi29213 жыл бұрын

    Gosh I want one of these.

  • @rays.5764
    @rays.57643 жыл бұрын

    Forgotten Weapons and C&Arsenal need to collab more.

  • @maewinchester2030
    @maewinchester20303 жыл бұрын

    Rad, we need to get ahold of one of these one day.

  • @Fracturedspleen
    @Fracturedspleen3 жыл бұрын

    Ian you did a video on the Berdan 2 five years ago at Rock Island

  • @geodkyt
    @geodkyt3 жыл бұрын

    Did Ian forget he did a video on the Berdan II about 5 years ago?

  • @derekbowbrick6233
    @derekbowbrick62333 жыл бұрын

    May the forth be with you.

  • @conman3538

    @conman3538

    3 жыл бұрын

    Go away

  • @judgegrinch1139

    @judgegrinch1139

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@conman3538 No need to be rude

  • @skyguard155

    @skyguard155

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tito died this day :(

  • @derekbowbrick6233

    @derekbowbrick6233

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@skyguard155 Do you mean Josip Broz?

  • @skyguard155

    @skyguard155

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@derekbowbrick6233 Yes, Josip Broz Tito

  • @konradfrancis2572
    @konradfrancis25723 жыл бұрын

    didnt you do a video on the berdan II back in 2016?

  • @jayhansen4918
    @jayhansen49183 жыл бұрын

    I didn't think he'd ever go back to Rock Island lol

  • @Blakk69
    @Blakk693 жыл бұрын

    Berdans II (or some modifications of Berdans)were in service in secondary units, like armed civilian guards in Russia up until 1980ies...

  • @stickyrice3664
    @stickyrice36642 жыл бұрын

    I really like the idea of "trapdoor with striker". I wonder if there's other example like that.

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill32573 жыл бұрын

    The gold rushes still are ongoing. You are in one of the main states for it. More gold has been found in the past 10 years than the previous 90 combined.

  • @jacobhuisman3489
    @jacobhuisman34893 жыл бұрын

    Did you not have a video on the Berdan II 4-5 years ago? Or am I mixing in C&rsenal again?

  • @kohinarec6580
    @kohinarec65803 жыл бұрын

    Strangely elegant, these old firearms.

  • @alifr4088
    @alifr40883 жыл бұрын

    Finally the rifle i always want to see the review by gun jesus

  • @toyotek2
    @toyotek23 жыл бұрын

    Very cool rifle.

  • @alun7006
    @alun70063 жыл бұрын

    A beauty!

  • @maxkronader5225
    @maxkronader52253 жыл бұрын

    Wow. The last time I was this early there was ammo on the shelves at gun shops.

  • @gresvig2507

    @gresvig2507

    3 жыл бұрын

    I chuckled, and then I was sad.

  • @thwiftlythwept7023
    @thwiftlythwept70233 жыл бұрын

    great vid! The older the better, generally.

  • @maxmephistru
    @maxmephistru3 жыл бұрын

    “But when Martyn-Solsky arrived, the left-handed man was breathing his last, because he had cracked his neck on the pavement, and could utter intelligibly only these words: "Tell the Emperor that the English do not clean their guns with brick-dust. Let them not clean their guns so among us; otherwise-God preserve us from war-they will not be fit to fire." (The Steel Flea, Nikolai Semyonovitch Lyeskoff, 1881)

  • @mrfluffytailthethird

    @mrfluffytailthethird

    3 жыл бұрын

    brick dust?

  • @herosstratos

    @herosstratos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrfluffytailthethird en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Cross-eyed_Lefty_from_Tula_and_the_Steel_Flea?wprov=sfla1

  • @johnfisk811

    @johnfisk811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrfluffytailthethird Period metal cleaning powder made from fired brick type clay. Used in oil. It is how muskets barrels were kept mirror bright. Impecunious soldiers would make their own by rubbing two soft old bricks together and mix it with water instead of oil.

  • @maxmephistru

    @maxmephistru

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrfluffytailthethird yes

  • @redheadmetalhead247
    @redheadmetalhead2473 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to add one of these to my Combloc collection

  • @idk-vz8ys

    @idk-vz8ys

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're not nsbm fan right?

  • @-Seeker-

    @-Seeker-

    3 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't be a Combloc rifle :P

  • @isaiahcampbell488
    @isaiahcampbell488Ай бұрын

    This thing is very sleek in form, it's like if an antique firearms designer was also a minimalist millennial.

  • @dass1333
    @dass13333 жыл бұрын

    Ah a minty fresh rifle.

  • @Eveseptir
    @Eveseptir3 жыл бұрын

    It's beautiful. I want it!

  • @Hamachingo
    @Hamachingo3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. I NEED THAT SWEATER, what is it? Where can I get it!?

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    3 жыл бұрын

    www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-merino-wool-hoodie/30651

  • @GunsmithSid
    @GunsmithSid3 жыл бұрын

    I handled a famous collector’s serial number 2. This seems at odds with the no serial numbers until approved in Russia. It was in beautiful condition. I don’t remember confidently if it had Cyrillic writing on it but I don’t think it did. Definitely a Colt Berdan striker trapdoor. Would have been about 20 years ago.