I hate it whenever anyone says that the victim "let" themselves get raped. It's ignorant and disgusting.

@invadertifxiii

5 ай бұрын

literally came to the comments to say this, no they dont LET

@kreigguardsman3355

5 ай бұрын

Yes I intentionally let myself forcibly get assaulted by people. Totally my fault. Something Andrew Tate would say Bloody monsters

@JJNurs

4 ай бұрын

Seriously cannot believe that line was uttered in law & order SVU.😒

@calie6607

4 ай бұрын

@@JJNursyea the prosecutor and the psychiatrist were totally off on this one.

@crypticfangs489

4 ай бұрын

I think he answered his own question on why the boy didnt report it when he claims the victim let it happen

Okay, maybe there's more to college life than I know, but WTH would anyone want to join a "brotherhood" that does things like this?

@ishikawagoemon4397

6 ай бұрын

Because they think its cool and it's mostly just boys being a brain dead idiot

@Teriyakioxo

6 ай бұрын

There was a hazing death in Europe where it was explained that the guy who died came from a poor background and was convinced that the connections he would make through the fraternity would set him up for financial success. Some people probably justify it to themselves that a few weeks/months of torture now in exchange for a life of privilege is worth it.

@dietotaku

6 ай бұрын

@@Teriyakioxo yeah, pretty much. greek life is a lot like a gang, if you endure the initiation you're afforded the strength of the whole fraternity/sorority backing you up. resources, connections, socializing, sheer numbers to help you get what you want.

@wolfy7890

6 ай бұрын

At my college we have to do seminars on not to haze people and not to SA people, or anything of any natural that causes harm or anything.

@ayameisastar

6 ай бұрын

@@wolfy7890yeah mine too. Our “hazing” was a scavenger hunt where we did stuff like take pictures with the school statue and in front some of the frats and local restaurants

Not the prosecuting attorney sitting here victim blaming. Good lord. “Why didn’t he report it?” Give me a break. It’s hard enough for a woman to report it. Can you imagine how much harder it is for a man to report being raped?

@AnastasiaIsabella

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@royalkitty8918

3 ай бұрын

right!?

@holliewalther7174

2 ай бұрын

This is entirely true. The shame people feel can be very overwhelming. Although it is never their fault it doesn’t really matter. Victim blaming is never the answer

@Armaria2203

Ай бұрын

Literally 😪😪

@Armaria2203

Ай бұрын

Victim blaming so sick even when they said “he let it happen”

I remember this case. The guy responsible for all of this ended up being so sick that his own LAWYER turned against him, exploiting a legal loophole that let them get crucial evidence back in at trial.

@detmstr341

6 ай бұрын

What made me sick is the victim's father represented the suspect accused.

@WarGrowlmon18

6 ай бұрын

@@detmstr341Once the father realized that the guy really was guilty, he used that to help them bring the guy down.

@detmstr341

6 ай бұрын

@@WarGrowlmon18 Well, at first, I was sickened and asked, "Why would the victim's father want to defend the accused suspect of his son's death?"

@WarGrowlmon18

6 ай бұрын

@@detmstr341I think that he just didn't believe that the guy actually did it at first.

@LeMErin21

5 ай бұрын

You remember this episode or was there a real case it was based on?

I wish they kept in the part where they arrested the frat guy responsible for all of this and Stabler says, "you have the right to an attorney. In the event that Mommy and Daddy can't get you one...."

This is why more and more people need to speak out on the harms that some people in college organizations can face. I know people who faced hazing and never was in Greek life. My friends have met parents of a frat member hazed to death and they only condone the frat while not Greek life. The parents speak out every year about hazing to all Greek life students.

@courtneyparrish8576

16 күн бұрын

You can speak out but when you have judges .lawyers, people who work in college schools that pledge they will cover it up

@xwrtk

16 күн бұрын

@@courtneyparrish8576 Understood. The frat members at fault for the hazing death had reputable lawyers but still lost the case.

I almost joined a fraternity in the late 70's and that particular one turned out be real trouble. One of my older relatives was a member and was at that time on the board of the fraternity so even though I never became a member I knew more than the average non-member. Girls were being what is now called date-raped after being drugged. That fraternity meant a lot to my relative and he was so disgusted that he wrote a letter to the future father-in-law of the chapter president to tell the man what a sleaze his daughter was engaged to. My relative also wanted to shut the whole place down and "re-colonize" with all new members and he was kicking members out. My recollection is that some had the option to resign from the fraternity or go to jail. My relative died in an un-related highway crash during this time so I never knew what happened next.

@christopherallen8822

6 ай бұрын

Your relative sounds like a real great guy, Andy.

@sansastark4040

6 ай бұрын

❤❤ MM 😊mnmmmmmmmmmnnnn b

@alexandersison2030

4 ай бұрын

The way you tell it, it kinda sounds like his death wasn't so unrelated.

@andrewbrendan1579

4 ай бұрын

@@alexandersison2030 It really was an accident. My relative's car was hit from behind by another vehicle that slid on ice, pushing his car into a head-on collision with an oncoming coal truck whose dumb-a** driver was going too fast around a curve, was over the center line and, I was told, was already being followed by the police. None of the people in the crash had any connection with one another and it was something that couldn't be planned; just a "perfect storm" of circumstances that ended in an innocent person's gruesome death. To the best of my knowledge the guilty driver was uninjured. Later there was a wrongful death suit that was won by my family's side.

@Sarfnic

3 ай бұрын

sad to hear

This episode really emphasized How being a bully Could lead to certain consequences .

Can we all take a second to guffaw at the “I got something” - “What is it?” and a fucking human body emerges without any musical or editorial acknowledgement

@malayacarey69

6 ай бұрын

It's so ridiculous but I love it 😅

@feraltaco4783

6 ай бұрын

​@@malayacarey69for real. 🤣 🤣 🤣

@MrNicodepies

5 ай бұрын

Straight up jump scare lol

@elementSe34

19 күн бұрын

There is literally music there.

I thought a confession under sedation wouldn't be admissible?

@jeffreymeehan3116

6 ай бұрын

Correct.

@WarGrowlmon18

6 ай бұрын

In Will's case, he got a lighter sentence in exchange for helping them to put away the sicko (NOT the word that I want to use here by the way!!!) responsible for all of this. The guy was so sick that his own LAWYER helped put him away in the end!!!

@sonrouge

6 ай бұрын

I don't think he was sedated. Plus he's clearly aware of what's going on.

Tyler deserved to be in jail. He sold intimate videos of himself with unsuspecting women and made money off of it without their consent, assaulted several members, and god knows what else. This guy was a psychopath.

Spoilers in case anyone hasn't viewed the episode yet, The fraternity leader was responsible for beating/abusing the pledges with the murder victim in this video. He almost doesn't get charged because his lawyer (the father of the murder victim) gets the club ledger thrown out due to it being stolen evidence. However, the lawyer then has it re-admitted using a legal loophole, where the fraternity leader is forced to tell the court what he did to the abuse victim. It's skin crawling.

Victim blaming infuriates me so much

And after this it drove him to become a lawyer with his best friend who moonlights as the devil of Hell’s Kitchen.

@oneleafaday348

3 ай бұрын

My first thought was, "Is he Foggy Nelson?"

the fact that fraternities or sororities are still allowed in some places knowing stuff like this still happen baffles me

@MrPolicekarim

6 ай бұрын

Maybe they do it, to maintain at least some sort of control. Like they tolerate them existing, so long as they don't go too far. I know that maybe sound stupid, but that is 1 only 1 reason I could think of.

@foolslayer9416

6 ай бұрын

They're social cesspools.

@otakuwolf4ever985

6 ай бұрын

It's enough to make a grown man cry.

@user-iu6tn7rl6e

4 ай бұрын

Has to do with money..The parents make large donations so their children can stay in school..

@Dwight_

3 ай бұрын

Fraternities aren't like this but incidents do happen sometimes.

Foggy really cleaned up after this.

@Futuretense101

6 ай бұрын

EXACTLY what I thought!

"I got something." "What is it?" *Bloop, here's a body*

@kickstand2407

Ай бұрын

That happened to a body of mine when he worked at K-Mart

3:30 anyone else find it odd that they don't react to her saying she was being filmed without consent? I mean I know the guys dead but that's normally the kind of crime they investigate and they show zero sympathy

@marianabobadilla1872

Ай бұрын

yeah every single video there was worthy of an SVU ep itself, IDK why they just pass them

@Delly16

Ай бұрын

Might have been cause the kid who did it was dead so there was no way to proceed with it?

@marianabobadilla1872

Ай бұрын

@@Delly16 but they could've 1 taken them down 2 prosecute everyone involved, including the guys that knew of it

I thought about rushing a frat when I first started college back in 2013, but I was an shy, awkward, high functioning autistic without meds that was way too trusting and eager to connect with people. I don't think I would have survived the hazing.

I love how abrupt the body found clip is lol

@MrNicodepies

5 ай бұрын

Straight up jump scare lol

Why is it when a victim becomes a killer do the police do something yet they don't help whe. the victim reports it

@thebyrd433

27 күн бұрын

Same pattern everywhere - it's not just in college. Bullies in grade school get to beat up on whoever they want, but as soon as a victim stands up for themselves, it's the victim who gets busted.

Idk why but it always irritates me when the detectives bust into a hospital or surgery and interrupt. Yeah sure it might be serious but let's interrupt anyway!

@calvinallen3424

6 ай бұрын

The doctors on ER would never let them do that

@feraltaco4783

6 ай бұрын

Like, they are going to really get anything coherent. Nothing would be admissible in court.

@MrRepoman197

6 ай бұрын

​@@feraltaco4783somehow they made it all stick!

@calie6607

4 ай бұрын

Yea, this always drives me nuts. And I don’t know what the law is on that anyway. I don’t know how much that would be admissible in court considering the circumstances and if the hospital is even required to let them talk to the patient under the circumstances. Reminds me of that nurse who was arrested I think for not allowing them to draw blood from I believe an unconscious patient. Pretty sure she won’t a pretty hefty lawsuit.

@phoenixmoon5580

2 ай бұрын

I heard rumors that they do this because the patient might die in surgery, and then the detectives have nothing to follow up. Also, if the patient survives surgery you are then just getting more information/details from what they said earlier. There is another crime drama that seems relevant here 'Silent Witness'. However, yes, the priority should be life... but if the detectives caused sufficient delay they could just be creating future work for themselves. You know, guaranteeing themselves a future pay cheque. This of course only occurs in drama/story world.

this is why i never joined a Greek house while in college. and lived at home.

@ameliabedelia7018

5 ай бұрын

Are you cute?

@TheKisame808

5 ай бұрын

tf???

The add was perfect on this video, since right when he was gonna show what was on the pc, an ad on steel pans showed up Perfect timing

I’m honestly glad I didn’t give in to the pressure of joining a sorority. I know it’s good to try and branch out socially when you’re in college, but the way these groups described themselves made me feel as if I would be signing some kind of lifetime contract, almost like a cult.

He confessed, yeah on his way to emergency surgery, after purposely crashing into a wall.

Ned is superb playing different characters on the law and order shows. But,plays a great lawyer as well

What exactly are the benefits of being in a fraternity?

@sweetroll1723

6 ай бұрын

Connections

@dollarbill125

6 ай бұрын

Connections, colors, you're basically famous on campus depending on the frat, girl's trying to get close to you, etc. Personally never saw got the craze about it since I could get all of that without pledging. After hearing the stories and a frat on my campus getting trouble for hazing I didn't bother.

@99mrpogi

5 ай бұрын

You won't get bullied You will have more friends

@DrOrr

4 ай бұрын

@@99mrpogihaha if you’re not weak you won’t get bullied regardless. Frat boys are soft

@Tamsyn12003

3 ай бұрын

I loathe them but at certain influential universities in the US, frat brothers (or sisters) will help get you key jobs in important industries post college. Like being a Freemason.

As a professional violinist I can say that nobody would put their expensive bow in a place like that. You would use the cheap one. 😂

Wow Olivia's sparkling attitude inspired me to watch till the end of this video

RIP RICHARD BELZER

People have no idea campus life have the worst kind of animals on board goading each other to do horrible things. Ugh. I'm glad i finished college. But the big ones always have stories.

I remember watching this when it first aired.

Yeah I'm glad I didn't go to college

Did you kill Tyler? Yeah, I’m sorry 😶…

I like the twist at the end of this episode.

I love this episode I can’t believe the dad of the victim is the dad from Kim possible

I was a loner at college. Never once did I even consider joining those greek fraternities. The only organization I ever joined was theater. If I was ever told something like that as an initiation, I would leave immediately, regardless if anyone called me a quitter. I’d at least know that a real man knows his limits.

5:29 that is so out of pocket

Getting a confession out of a dude delirious from a car accident? No way that holds up in court.

Woah- why is this video cut like this?

That’s me and you are?…🫱🏻 Arresting you…😂😂

*plot twist* He later became a defense lawyer with his best friend who is blind.

Ah, when are they gonna ad season 5 to KZread?

This is why I have a hard time with Fraternity’s, it’s like the background of them leads you to want to join and belong only to end up putting yourself at risk of getting hurt or even dying! I get the guy wanted out of it, but killing the dude wasn’t the answer! He simply could have just went to the police and the dude would get punishment- now he’ll have to live with the fact though that he’s the one going to jail instead of speaking up and putting his abuser in jail.

That’s it. I’m never ever going to college. No matter how much daddy wants to pay me.

Campus darkside crime some alibi never know to public !

Pongan los episodios de la ley y el orden UVE en español Gracias

These shows would be really boring if everyone did what they should do, which is say nothing and ask for a lawyer.

That's very disturbing on how the kid wasn't gonna pay three grand for replacing his violin equipment after the college student got assaulted and murdered with it and got thrown into the water containment center.

I love Olivia Benson

Foggy Nelson!

Violin strings are made of horsehair, you learn something new everyday.

The golden age of SVU

The guy who murdered the college student got tired of being pushed around, bullied, beaten ,assaulted sexually, and others while being part of a Brotherhood Fraternity Pledge Class. Murder and sexual assault is disgusting and unacceptable for anybody to kill another person in a gruesome way.

@user-fz5yk6ss2p

18 сағат бұрын

Murder and Sexual Assaults is disgusting and mind blowing for anybody to go through when somebody else commits these terrible acts/crimes.

These boys, what was they thinking 🤔 doing those things to each other

Why the American education system is a mess

They all need to go to jail, hiding what they know

They shouldn’t be talking to the cops without a lawyer.

What's insane is these still exist to this day. I visited a buddy who goes to Oklahoma State and he pointed to a fraternity house that is known for date raping people and its still allowed to open its doors. It's sick really.

@julesmasseffectmusic

3 ай бұрын

USA rich rule

This show has often put college kids in a terrible light. Making them look bad

@xxoxEVAxoxx

4 ай бұрын

1 in 5 women and 1 in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college. There’s a reason they do this

@james-p

4 ай бұрын

Especially wealthy ones.

@joewhitehead3

4 ай бұрын

@@james-p Oh yeah. That too. Kids of wealthy parents think they’re untouchable because those parents don’t always teach their kids any better

No need for CSI NY

Frats are just another form a gang, just different context and backed by money and racial power.

Tv would have us believe that,people never as for a lawye!

Fulton Reed should have gotten Gordon Bombay to represent him. He would have had that thing thrown out before he was out of surgery

@WHOOOOOOOOCARES

3 ай бұрын

Quack quack. Ducks fly together

@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102

2 ай бұрын

He wants to provide legal services to disenfranchised people in Hell's Kitchen. He should know better.

Ice T is a savage.. love him❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

A victim? You guys, the threat was “do this, or you won’t be able to join a fraternity.”

This was the Serena Williams episode.

@Dylan-Frost

2 ай бұрын

Not sure about that but I know that Kristen Schall was in this episode (voice of Louise Belcher and Mabel Pines).

2:18 “…even got one with Pink hair” Omg guys she has dyed hair, ain’t that something 💀like, ok my guy, that’s the least of our concerns rn

@xxoxEVAxoxx

4 ай бұрын

It’s just identifiable. I have pink hair. When people don’t know me they say pink haired girl. It’s not bad lol

I get it’s a show but so unrealistic. No one with half a brain speaks to cops without a lawyer.

@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen

6 ай бұрын

But there are a lot of people who don't have half a brain. So--it's realistic.

@that.ll_do_pig

6 ай бұрын

There's thousands of hours of police interviews available on KZread that prove otherwise

@kaybee4132

6 ай бұрын

Watched several crime interrogation videos this week - happens on a daily.

@ibcheel9021

6 ай бұрын

The most unrealistic part is when the psychologist stated the last sentence of the video…

Not one of their better episodes.

I didn’t like what he did to those girls

Foggy Nelson

Ruptured spleen isn't something to delay

That coroner is Angela from ANTM.

Some people committed suicide while I attended a University. One jumped from a library building onto the sidewalk. I walked past by him that early morning. I mean his body. It must have been around 5 a.m. or something. Another committed suicide because he was outed by another student. People can be so cruel.

Foggy nelson

The ADA sucks sometimes

Why didn't the woman wit the pink hair dye her back? Its not like it looked good.

🐒🐒🐒🤯🤯

fk

fp

This is such a goofy show😂 the young actors r so bad.

This is why I'm so happy that Denmark doesn't have the stupid frat culture

Isn't that the guy from daredevil??

@amandaljohnson

5 ай бұрын

Yep it's Foggy