this is spot on. 2 years of training of my 6 years in Navy Special Warfare didn't amount to anything in the civilian world. quit frustrating to have been an E-7 and then enter the "real world" in an entry level job. it's demoralizing, embarrassing, and a shame

After watching this presentation I believe that this is a re-occuring theme, not only in the U.S but in the U.K and here in Australia. The transition from military to civilian is (from my experience) been one of my toughest challenges in my life. Making myself competitive in a civilian employment environment is one of our biggest obstacles esspecially with education and qualifications. It's honestly been a full time job actually trying to gain a full time job. This presentation was very accurate in all the areas he covered.

@Roblx518

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Stott civilians are basically mindless fucks. All that good enough doesn't get what should have been done accomplished.

@stanleylucas789

6 жыл бұрын

There was a very good article I read that talked about the difficulties of ex-service members. People roughly of their same age have already graduated College or University or have worked in some field in the civilian world whereas they are usually just getting started. This lag also applies to all facets of life such as dating, buying a house, starting a business, having kids, etc. That lag, particularly for someone in their twenties has a very big impact on their lives. What doesn't help and I know I am going to step on some toes here is the attitude from some ex-military that they are inherently better than all civilians regardless of skills or qualifications. That attitude is not going to work in your favor when you are trying to blend in. There is nothing wrong with talking about your military experience and it will probably be an unavoidable subject in an interview, but you want to come across as honest and humble about it, not arrogant and cocky. When dealing with institutions such as Colleges, Universities, Trade Schools, etc and businesses or corporations, it might be helpful to read bios of the people who work at these places and try to find the ones with the highest percentage of veterans. Those contacts and people who can relate to you should help work in your favor.

@MrTeddy12397

4 жыл бұрын

that's what happens when a country has a professional army disconnected from the rest.

@hostiletoxictomdowneyburne6469

4 жыл бұрын

I get told I work to hard and long, overly competitive, and too rigid w deadlines.

This man seems incredibly kind and genuine. I like him, a lot.

Really important subject. Special Ops and also men/women in regular forces have exceptional skills but on leaving the army, so few of them get into a situation where they can be used to good effect. They not only have skills but a great attitude. They should not be lost to the economy.

dear sir, really thank you for what you have done for this country. I'm Vietnam era USAF vet. I graduated with a 2 year degree in "82", 120 credits double for what was needed. I go to UNF Jacksonville Fl. and was told I was not well rounded enough and would have to take EXTRA classes in addition to their regular classes. At that moment I learned a very valuable lesson. It truly is all about the money FIRST, and education second. keep that fire in your belly. sincerely mark... class of"84"

Our veterans, especially sf, in my opinion are the most underrated and under appreciated people in our society. There are few people I respect more, and honestly look up to, than these sf guys. So much of what these guys say, and how they go about their business, is relatable to me in my profession in the fire service. I often tailor a lot of my talks on leadership within the fire service after what these folks have to say about the subject. Their leadership is impeccable and their capabilities, if given the opportunities, are vast.

suprisingly bad audio for a ted talk

@WBush-uc9pe

5 жыл бұрын

It's craptacular!

Amazing what he said and how he showed his skills in preparation, Networks, coordination, Legislation, diagnostics to make a job work to perfection. Because he needs to operate at a high level of skills. Colleges are competitive, I believe once he gets in one University they should leverage it to other Universities. I had Veterans in my classes and thought them the most focused, determined competitors in my class.

From 1 to another thank you for your service to our country. I was 15 tango crew chief on a uh60 and so much of my skill set and training was non transferable in the civilian world as well

we were taught to adapt and overcome. that can apply to all of lifes challenges. "BE" the change you want to see

Great presentation, reminded me of my transition from ODA to civilian life. One key skill set became immediately clear as a demand, our ability to instruct and lead in any civilian capacity..

I was at PB Razor 06-07 and i remember hearing and watching the Al ‘Askarī Shrine get blown up.

Well Done!!! Public Speaking is feared greater than death for most! Thank you for your service to this Nation and proud of you for getting up there in front of a large group of people and thousands on KZread! Many will never know what it takes to speak publicly and or serve the way you have! PRESS ON WARRIOR!!! And that goes for all our Troops!!! GOD Bless You!!!

Thanks to all the men that are our elite and what you sacrifice and do for us and our country

A 22 year old with real world experience is a direct threat to academy and the industrial "educational" complex.

@johndifrancisco3642

6 жыл бұрын

grey man, I hope so.

@thinkingagain5966

6 жыл бұрын

grey man Disagree. There are quite a few 22 yr olds with "real world" experience but are still broke n working minimum wage

@nextworld9176

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Grey Man. I Disagree with your platitude and offer this Very Gray observation. A 22-year-old man with 4 years military experience is just a 22 yro with only 4 yrs exp limited to an extremely insular, highly indoctrinated hierarchal work environment. He's got a leg up on many civilians, but he really is still a newbie. I was there. I grew up an Army bases. I served 10 years Navy enlisted overseas flying intelligence missions against commie countries. Then went to college. Nontraditional education credits are limited because work-based and life-experience-based knowledge doesn't teach the full requirements of the course. After my degree, I went back overseas for 10 more years, this time as a USAF officer. Came back, earned my MBA. Transitioning is TOUGH! Mainly because the civilian world has no central mission, no central doctrine, no central philosophy, and no common values. In short, the military mind might never succeed in civilian life. At 62, I've been a "civilian" for 20 years now. From my perspective, the only threat to education is the natural workings of an economy based on greed without ethics. Everything is expensive, so colleges are expensive to build, maintain, operate and recruit for.

Proof positive that our academic system is becoming completely isolated from reality.

@germacam3498

3 жыл бұрын

Just watch the video of the Columbia students heckling a veteran while he was speaking at an event.

It's all about money. If they give him credit for military experience, they don't get paid for the class.

@iainhowe4561

7 жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, challenging a credit course costs money. The institution makes money on PLAR (Prior Learning Assessment & Recognition) credit. Not sure about the US, but I work for a Canadian public institution and we would want to help this guy graduate on time and free up the seat. Maybe a private institution without those government directives and with too many seats to fill would make a different decision?

@Imissthefuhrer

6 жыл бұрын

Iain Howe we have something similar, called CLEP test. Paid $75 got 16 college credits in German.

@TheIfifi

4 жыл бұрын

That's too simplified. I live in a country where I am paid to study, my class is an EXPENSE not a profitable thing. It's the same.

the difference between military and civilian world is this: one actully learn and do in the first year while the other have to study for 6yrs in ave and then do and learn

Great presentation brotha!!!

Thank you for confirming my thoughts. I tried going to college in my late 40s. While I only did one enlistment in the Army, I had over 30 years of experience in the real world. Some of the classes were at a level so far below where I was at. I understand that they were directed at an 18 year old still living at home. I found it so dry and boring. There was only two classes that I got into. Photoshop and EMT. I dropped out quickly.

Most SF vets are self driven, leaders, innovative, collaborative and hard working individuals. They are beyond schools and to shoehorn them back into the normal school systems is just wasting time and talents. They can do so much more for the world and for themselves.

I went to college from the Gulf War. An elective class was called Moral and Ethical Decisions. The professor attempted posturing comparing his experience with the students. I answered with my own combat experiences regarding leadership, decisions of mortality, etc while accountable for others at 26 years old. An exchange student interrupted me stating vets were unthinking murders, etc. Other vets related to me as hands on my shoulders kept me seated. Upon the student embarrassing himself, I elaborated on "train up" concepts to understand their training, economy, living conditions, leadership, etc. It indicated if we were fighting an army of volunteers or draftees. Knowing the weapon systems indicated efficiency, functional fault tolerances, etc. Living conditions revealed physical conditioning, etc. Is it necessary to kill your opponent while simply "knocking them down" would suffice. Those decisions were made long before arriving to their country. Knocking a weapon from their hands without retreiving it, is equally considered as a surrender. A lethal shot is not always necessary. Once conveyed to the student of the unknown practices, his disposition immediately subsided.

Let's be honest, what you did yesterday doesn't matter. I'm an EOD tech. I proved I can do a very difficult job, just like the next SOF guy. If I step back into the civilian world I got to prove my self again. That's the issue with SOF in general. You are not special. No one is. At the end of the day stop thinking anything is owed to you and get back on the grind. Prove yourself you did it once do it again. That's your value. Your ability to adapt and overcome.

@williamparks5331

6 жыл бұрын

I forget what the quote is from but, "you are special, just like everyone else."

patrol with IED. It's hard coming home I know. Good for you, I feel what your going through. I shot a person I have a hard time living with that. I takes a lot of guts doing what your doing talking about your problems. I have TBI/PTSB...

“ sorry your international training from the Army doesn’t count for your credits” * proceeds to cuss him out in four languages*

This explains a lot about why vets seem a forgotten and neglected group

Dude!! Our service over lapped. I was 1st SFG 2 BN. '01-'05 What battalion was this guy?

@johnv5129

7 жыл бұрын

420

@terminalvelocity6659

4 жыл бұрын

nice

I know this talk is dated…but there are universities out there who are military friendly…there are schools that will translate those experiences and military schooling in to actually give credits towards your degree. Campbell University in NC is military-friendly and allowed value to the SF community.I was a 18D and greatly benefitted from the translation.

Ran into these issues. Ended up losing my certifications as well. Was heavily influenced by special operations medical cadres.

God bless.😇

I wish this would have been available when I left Grp. Instead, I went to the trades, as these were the people that I could hide among and get along with.

Its ridiculous that we send people halfway around the world to executive national policy, then tell them, what they spent years learning and doing on the battlefield means nothing.

@dantheman4421

6 жыл бұрын

+Clinine Mills Ok you and the 40 people who liked your comment need a lesson in grammar and geopolitics, as well as, and this is sad because you're obviously American like I am, firstly, we don't 'send people halfway around the world to execute national policy', we send them to execute INTERnational policy. That's a duh. Secondly, what John Barns said is 100% accurate; the adjustment to civilian life after having BEEN IN A WAR ZONE is what is the problem. If they can become well-adjusted US citizens again, here in the homeland, shiiiit. Did you even LISTEN to what this guy in the talk said he was handling and managing in Iraq? He was in a super high level management position of essentially ANY large manufacturer, company, or distributor here back in the US(he was handling the equivalent in Iraq). He'd be hired there over a college grad because he has the real-world experience! To summarize, what +John Barns said was 100% accurate, the second half of his statement too, I mean.

@johnbarns7355

6 жыл бұрын

thanks man, a lot of people have the misconception veterans coming back are gonna end up as alcoholics, criminals or dead due to suicide. people always assume the worst when it comes to out soldiers, and ignore everything else. veterans don't need your bloody sympathy, they need love, and a helping hand that's it (usually). they are way more capable than any civvie could ever be.

@waydebaker7743

6 жыл бұрын

John barns as a combat veteran that has returned stateside and literally became everything you described( 10 suicide attempts, homelessness) I appreciate what you said. No one really knows how to help us. Everyone says they support the troops, but it's really just a saying people use to make them selves feel less guilty. All it takes is just a simple conversation that you believe in our transition and a hand shake. We don't want much. We just don't want to be treated different. Just a little understanding. I'm sorry.

@waydebaker7743

6 жыл бұрын

I also appreciate what you said Mr. Mills. The support we need is very simple really. I've actually been to samara, the place this guy is talking about. I was there after him. And he's right, we can't translate what we've done in the military to the civilian world because there's really no experience. But like you said, once we get adjusted, there's literally nothing we can't accomplish. Thank you.

@brianmcnellis5512

6 жыл бұрын

Clinine Mills Why? He can go work for companies like Blackwater tomorrow that's what he knows.

This is what I plan on doing. Enlist, Go Rangers, get GI Bill, College, More military, maybe law enforcement, die.

@leldubs2722

4 жыл бұрын

Police 159 same bro

@sallykauth2115

2 жыл бұрын

@Police 159 I hope you realize all your dreams. How is it going so far?

Does Next Ridgeline network and communicate with SF strictly or do they provide services for other former SoF members?

@kflo2525

7 жыл бұрын

Ken Landry good points

Everybody talking about the sound being off Probably some guy that just went to college straight out of high school

Great talk. Veterans are one of the most underrepresented groups at top schools like mine. I am working on trying to change that. If you would like to get in contact with me please do. Just comment bellow and I will respond with a way for us to get in contact.

Well put brother. DOL

@Blazekid1906

7 жыл бұрын

You a Green Beret brother?

@Sniper18B

7 жыл бұрын

+DemoLegends yes,

@Blazekid1906

7 жыл бұрын

Brian Whitney fuck yeah

@Sniper18B

7 жыл бұрын

+DemoLegends you a Green Beret?

@Blazekid1906

7 жыл бұрын

Brian Whitney Nah, my man the 75th is where i want to find my home, following my cousins footsteps.

We should have way that any Special Forces of any branch vets once they rotate out should have a bachelors degree in agreement with their training past.

It appears to me the civilian are afraid of hiring ex military people because they know they would excel at the job and take away the attention of being the “boss” compared to a ex military personnel. You should have pride in that. Most are jealous that you had the balls to do what most won’t.

It is not that the training we received was substandard, it is they would lose money if they give credit for your training or experience. In fact I would bet that most Military training is superior to college professors. Military trainers have been there and don that while many college professors work on theory alone.

Anyone else think the audio sounds really poor?

Navy Special Forces isn't like Army though. We didn't do as much relationship building.

yeez the sound is like a bad signal between news reporters xD

pretty much every combat arms MOS isnt translatable other than security in the civ world

@adamchristensen2648

6 жыл бұрын

bcove90 Leadership is translatable everywhere.

@petroleumcrypt707

6 жыл бұрын

bcove90 It’s not like they only know how to shoot and kill. They perform other valuable technical work that could easily translate into a civilian job.

@kevinreed7770

5 жыл бұрын

I have a friend that was a 11b when he was active duty army. He's been in firefights. He even has as arcom with valor for saving a few lives. He's now an 88m in the national guard. He works for a small company that replaces railroad tides

The problem is that when your military trained, it accounts for nothing on paper. I have a best friend that was in the navy for about 6 years, he was good at his job, but when he got out of the service; he couldn't get the civilian job he thought he could get because he didn't have the paper trail certification/degree to back up what he knew. So he had to go back to collage to "learn the system" again in which he already knew like the back of his hand since he had to constantly fix it in the service. It really don't matter what you do in the military, from being a cook to like what this guy was; spec ops. Since the military don't have a paper trail like a collage does and it's not seen as a degree from the service; it's going to be difficult. He even said that before he joined spec ops he had a struggle with high school; probably doing the minimum to graduate and that was it. I have the same issue. Sitting in a classroom and doing book work drives my mind crazy after a while and I can't focus. But I can focus when it comes to auto repair. I can see the issue and fix it. I took the A-5 ASE exam and just barely passed it since it was a lot of theory and book work studying. Go in a shop I can do brakes no problem. It's just the paper trail and going from a highly structured chain of command where you know what's expected of you in the military to a very relaxed civilian world were you may not always know what is expected of you. Back to my best friend, he knew more of the system that he was in collage to work on then the professor he had who was teaching the class.

it is exclusive for green berets? what about rangers or delta?

@tomsbeststuff2134

6 жыл бұрын

Xavier Martinez Yes. Just for SF. No Rangers or Deltoids. The JSOC types have the gold-gilded, 1st class treatment. We got nothing. That's why the GB Foundation was born. The SF groups took more casualties per capita than ANY other units, deployed more, and weren't taken care of. That's what the GBF is for. Don't worry about Delta and the like. they're taken care of just fine. The SF Regiment will take care of its own.

@tomsbeststuff2134

6 жыл бұрын

Den Must be all those years of experience you have to make that statement. There's no hierarchy there. Different missions, different guys. Stop reading comic books.

@tomsbeststuff2134

6 жыл бұрын

josh - Your link is a joke. Extremely little true information there. BTDT GTTS.

Dude should have shut up, signed up for the class, not showed up, took the midterm and final, and got it over with like anyone else who was ever forced into a class they were not interested in. It's college dude! They have to ensure that all graduate have a certain amount of knowledge or else the degree is worthless. Anyways, thank you for your service. It's not often that I get to call out a SF guy :)

You CAG guys and your mild mannered calmness haha.

My self and many others ive know have went through simular nonsense. Sad.

Sound guy worked on blue and red with rooster teeth

CLEP tests my friend. CLEP tests.

@tetrabromobisphenol

6 жыл бұрын

That's only for freshman and sophomore level classes. Sadly you cannot test out of alot of the upper level courses.

One Th I g ive found with former SF guys my best friend is ex SF and he found the skills he execelled at dont work in the real world he found that to give his cliche movie line example I excel at killing people the civilian world has no real slot for a guy who excels at killing people so he felt the best thing he could do is get into shooting guns he is now a instructor at a school and he will tell you I get to play little boy ninja soldier all day now that is in issue I see too many guys get out a d love that aspect of it and go and think that this is going to be their career after getting out early to realize that it isn't

I work in HR, and the sad truth is despite everyone valuing Veterans and their service, there is this perception (maybe justified) that the years they spent in war zones, really dont yield much experience that is applicable to most corporate office jobs. Most times you will find a civilian applicant with more relevant work experience at a comparable age.

@adamchristensen2648

6 жыл бұрын

EasySnake What civilian HR offices and personnel tend to miss is the leadership experience veterans have. They are trained to understand their goal/mission, environment, personnel/team, obstacles, etc., and get results in the most efficient, effective way possible.

@jag5798

6 жыл бұрын

Ill have to disagree with EasySnake. I have worked with a lot of prior military and depending on how many years they served in the military, the less years served they are better able to transfer into corporate life a lot easier. In the military, leadership is dictated by “you do because I say so”. There is no debate by subordinates. That’s not leadership needed in civilian society. My training in the military of 5 years did not translate to civilian. The work ethics taught by my parents did.

@adamchristensen2648

6 жыл бұрын

JA G I don't know when you were in the military, but your simple description of leadership is one based on 'positional authority' it exists everywhere, not just the military, and it has nothing to do with quality of leadership. Good leaders develop leadership qualities and characteristics in themselves and others. They are goal driven and inspire and motivate others. I don't know what your military experience was, but it sounds like you didn't have very good leaders during your time in and thus didn't really learn what military leadership is.

all Veterans struggle with problems transitioning into the civilian world. i know because im still trying to figure it out myself as a US combat Vet. sounds like you are only patting Spec. ops on the back.

@jk-76

4 жыл бұрын

Damn bro, no need for that. Was he supposed to talk about someone else's job? I know, as we speak, veterans from every branch and every aspect of service making their lives their own. Not making other people rich was my goal and so far so good. I don't understand this animosity. I have never thought someone telling a story about themselves and their experiences was anything other than that. No need for that chip. If you served honorably then be proud and don't think someone is trying to be better than you. That's some destructive thinking...

During Mr. Miles talk, he describes having soft skills that were honed during his military service but needing/wanting to build his hard skills. He is disappointed when he isn't given credit for his military service. What he fails to realize is real-world experience is only a portion of what the class curriculum will include. With all due respect, it sounds like he wants to get a degree but doesn't want to complete the courses.

You don't have to take any classes if you can "cleft-out" if you want too. Study materials are available. We all experience this devide as military veterans. Special forces will not and should not have any considerations that set them apart from a tank-terret mechanic who's hydraulic/electronic skills won't get him hired as a civilian either. If your millitary skills are indeed transferable, there is a civil service job for the asking! Mercenary work is allways available. You're an "Airborne Grunt" I would have used you as crew level maintenance Personnel cleaning up hydraulic fluid.

@etoolfool

6 жыл бұрын

Brian McNellis Special Forces soldiers do have advanced skills. They Absolutly have an advantage over regular military personnel. For good reason too.

Work on that delivery Miles. The vocal pauses are killing me.

@shawnrainey6889

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah ...I bet the dude loses sleep at night over your opinion

Like my Management Professor teaching illegal labor practices for his contribution?

Colleges are safe spaces today not places of learning

If you actually listened to him he doesn't say much. He did his tour, went to college and didn't like it. he built up this anger against the system. That's all there is to this video. Ted you really let us down... there's only a paragraph of information in this giant video

@Hairy.Whodini

6 жыл бұрын

alex grenlie Spoken like someone who has no idea what the speaker is talking about. Swing and a miss.

the transition sucks in every way!

This is very lack luster talk...moving on.

yawn

Come to Israel. The networks of the type you are trying to build exist here.

I can't imagine being in Special Forces with Hillary as president, Trump 2016

@yungprod0343

7 жыл бұрын

LilWiL I can't imagine being in special forces with trump as president,Hillary 2016

@davidturov5947

7 жыл бұрын

you're kidding right? she like KILLED 2 SEALs because of negligence. Can't compare killary to Trump

@DisDatK9

7 жыл бұрын

Giovan Simileer yea.. totally can't imagine why I would want a president that actually supports the military. That would be fucking stupid!

@onlinegamesful

7 жыл бұрын

Willie well four months later and Trump is getting Navy Seals killed

@ghosti79

7 жыл бұрын

LilBlackman : that never happened yet lol But Renner benghazi when Obama and Hillary abandoned those Americans and got some killed. yeaaaa history rocks

whats your point?your skills didnt translate to civilian life,just like i cant be a doctor after being a bus driver

@tokillthedragon

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Robson his point was that he already had a lot of the skills that they were looking for but because he learned those skills in the military, they somehow didn't count in the civilian world and he had to take classes on how to do things he already learned how to do.

@Bourbon101LRSD

7 жыл бұрын

Here's an example of what Blake is talking about. If you are a Special Operations Medic/Corpsman, the level of medical training and authority you have is equal to a Physicians Assistant. Those guys perform minor surgery, advanced trauma medicine, in some cases they are the only medical provided for miles for both American, allied forces and local nationals. Now fast forward a few years, you're out of the military and enrolling in college. You present you're certificates and DD214 and you're told " we don't recognize that training"

@barelyaninconvenience

7 жыл бұрын

ok so the civilian officials want to cover there arse by making ex army get same certification as everybody else,should be no problem for highly trained person?

@Bourbon101LRSD

7 жыл бұрын

You'd think it wouldn't be a problem. that's just one example. Others may not have such a skill set, but have lead and managed others in combat, were accountable for thousands if not millions of dollars of equipment, and did it while people were trying to kill them. Yet people who have done nothing but cry about having to repay student loans get hired first. If they were good enough to be sent to war, they are good enough to hire when they get out

@420Smokeapotamus

7 жыл бұрын

Why would you want to learn all that stuff again? LOL. That sounds idiotic, and is a complete embarrassment. As a medic in the special forces alone, it takes years to graduate and be put out in the field. Not to mention, all the Iraqis, Afghans and people in general hes probably worked on, perfecting his skill even more. I'm pretty sure he was invited to this though. They read your story, if they like it- you get an invite. That's all TED talks are.

War for OIL! Clap yo' hands!!

We should have way that any Special Forces of any branch vets once they rotate out should have a bachelors degree in agreement with their training past.