Ity's great to see some ones else's interpretation of this concept, i'm sure between the 2 theres a semi functial vehicle, well done James.

@jamesbruton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for helping out with the video and testing!

@jaxsonsimpson-harris3113

2 ай бұрын

You two should work together on a Version 2 of Colin's Riono Tank and use the best of both to make something that's unstoppable, also maybe get a more powerful motor like a little diesel engine that has a load of torque.

@lukefrahn8538

2 ай бұрын

Isn't it a requirement to have wheels that float?

@DetroitMicroSound

2 ай бұрын

Have either of you guys considered an ArcDroid for your shop yet? I bet they would sponsor you in a heartbeat! Great units, and can expand your shop's capabilities a lot. You're welcome. 😉

@DMSparky

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for participating in the video!

"I have learned from your mistakes Colin and repeated them exactly" had me laughing, love these two together.

@kingmasterlord

2 ай бұрын

like a peanut butter hamburger helper sandwich

@FMFvideos

2 ай бұрын

when did he say that? I can't find

@misconstrudel

2 ай бұрын

@@FMFvideos 17:39

In terms of aesthetics, Colin's is "Mad Max battlefield robust", whereas James's is more of a slimmed down "planetary explorer" vibe.

@eTiMaGo

2 ай бұрын

which kinda syncs with their personalities too :D

@scottbotgo4218

2 ай бұрын

People build their personalities​@@eTiMaGo

@eTiMaGo

2 ай бұрын

@@scottbotgo4218 everything I build is an unstable mess, that makes sense 😂

@DeclanMBrennan

2 ай бұрын

@@eTiMaGo LOL

@matthewmccalister5594

2 ай бұрын

He's the quiet genius behind the operation... And Colin is the mad scientist blowing shit up :D (in the absolute best way possible) I want to see more collabs! James making a robotic version of the flying bike?! Or a 3-D printed knife skirt??!

This video has so much englishman in a shed showing off his latest toy to another shed living englishman energy, and I love it.

@eTiMaGo

2 ай бұрын

pretty good summary of all British engineering really :D

@pileofstuff

2 ай бұрын

in the words of James May : "blokes mucking about in sheds is what made this country great"

@pcka12

21 күн бұрын

​@@eTiMaGoincluding HMS Dreadnought 1906?

The rust and weathering on the Rhino has only gone and increased it's awesomeness. 👌

Jame's 3D printer, filament, and bearings sponsors are the only kind of KZread sponsorships I don't skip, he's actually using their products in all his projects and the ad reads are short and succinct!

@blaaeeke

2 ай бұрын

Thats because they arent ads, its just him mentioning his affiliate link

@Vok250

2 ай бұрын

And we actually get to see the products at work!

@MrRedstoner

2 ай бұрын

There are other channels which do similar things. For one I'll mention Blondihacks, some of her tools are given to her, but we see her use them and even abuse them from time to time.

@teresashinkansen9402

2 ай бұрын

I heard he uses up about 5% of the worlds filament, also he had to have installed his personal substation to power all the 3D printers.

@goosenotmaverick1156

2 ай бұрын

​@@teresashinkansen9402 that's a lot of juice lol We did a couple Bitcoin mining setups. Normal home service (in the US, 200a service) can provide power sufficient for roughly 25 antminer S9s (which I'm sure are likely ancient by now, we did this a few years ago, and that stuff progresses fast) but 25 was the limit for continuous use in a safe manner. Just for a fun side note about the power requirements.

Got all nervous watching those expensive electronics going into the bog! Still really cool project and always great to see you two collabing.

You two together give me some Jamie and Adam vibes. You guys need to collab on some engineering monstrosity now! Pull some ideas out of a hat, a big animatronic steel head

@CalebHansonlets

2 ай бұрын

Jamie and Adam ended up basically hating eachother. They never really got along

@runed0s86

2 ай бұрын

Why stop at the head? They should go full gundam!

@vljYWOK

2 ай бұрын

They already did a colab. Check out the Ironman suit on Colin's channel and there is a video on burtons about his contribution.

@MrRedstoner

2 ай бұрын

@@CalebHansonlets Not hating each other. They respect each other professionally but are not friends

@tylerpoore97

2 ай бұрын

@@MrRedstonerWas just gonna say that was a bit sensationalistic.

James + Colin = brilliant dream team. SO SATISFIED!!!!!!!

"I've learned from your mistakes Colin and repeated them exactly!" 😂

"Upgrade: Old bugs out, new bugs in". This is definitely an upgrade over Colin's :D

I guess one problem is, that on the wheels, even when spread out, you have a lot of ground pressure on the "bars". Only one bar at a time is touching the ground. I'd try some kind of net or fixed track in between those bars. Like on some tractors, designed for low pressure on the ground.

@geesehoward700

2 ай бұрын

dont tanks have tracks not wheels?

@hansdietrich1496

2 ай бұрын

@@geesehoward700Yes. I don't talk about putting tracks covering the distance between the wheels, I mean the track covering the big gaps ON the wheel.

@poopbutt238

2 ай бұрын

Could also put something inflatable in the gaps, like rubber bladders with about 10psi in them.

@hansdietrich1496

2 ай бұрын

@@poopbutt238True, but they'd also need grip on the outside. So putting a net all around each wheel would make sense.

@stephensaines7100

2 ай бұрын

I agree with your observation, but not how to address it. Even simple 'teeth' added to the wheel webs/struts to all but the non-cambered driving edges would work wonders. What might happen with webbing is the web actually exacerbating the slip by getting caught in the surface it runs on. On smooth asphalt/concrete, I could see it adding traction. On soil, it could snag very easily.

Such a power coupling. Even if it was a "failure" it's still fun seeing you two work together.

I love how low-key the last quarter of this is. Two inventors having fun with their inventions in a muddy ravine.

The most impressive thing about James's work is that all of his 3D printed and CNC'd parts fit together so well

Furze music, too? 🤘

@stevefrancis4949

2 ай бұрын

Teeth on the edges

I like that James is so experienced that he can make devices like this relatively quickly

@TheDevilWAH

2 ай бұрын

I remember James starting out, his channel really shows how as you gain experince by trying and failing, your skills develope quickly. I often notice him now almost skipping over parts of the project as though they are to "simple" to be worth mentioning, that in a past project he struggles to undersand and get it working. James understanding of kinematics is a good example of this, it consistently developed over the years with each project untill it has become another tool in his belt.

Incredible Robot Wars vibes from some of this, especially the ditch bits where the availability of a 14-year-old who could remember to invert the controls when reversing might have saved the day.

Dome the wheels and fill in the hollow space with spray foam insulation. It'll add byuoancy, there'll be no empty void that'll fill with water in need of draining, and prevent the paddles from digging down into the water and mud.

@jamesjacoby

2 ай бұрын

Pretty soon we’ll loop back around to inflatable rubber tires 😂

@ColinWatters

2 ай бұрын

+1 I thought the whole idea was to use the wheels as floats.

I usually watch these videos because of the relaxing nature but this one had me on the edge of my seat!

I like seeing two makers with different skill sets try to make the same or similar things. This scratched that itch wonderfully.

I would like a video where you try to iterate upon this design and improve it. You could: -Add steering -Put a limiter on the roll -Space the front and back a little further apart so the wheels don't hit each other on a tight turn -Add some buoyancy so it can work like a paddle boat (but don't forget to distribute the weight properly so it doesn't tip) -Anything else a civilian such as my self didn't think of

@goosenotmaverick1156

2 ай бұрын

Some filler in the wheels to spread out ground pressure would be helpful in the mud and grass,

@ExiledSenpai

2 ай бұрын

@@goosenotmaverick1156Even better if that filler is a highly buoyant material; perhaps some sort of foam.

@davidbenton5393

Ай бұрын

Oh and you should lower the cg and make it heavier that should help with the slippage some

As proof of concept that’s brilliant. Some steering authority and waterproofing (splashing will always be a risk) and that would be a workable solution.

I like Collin's playground: he has a casual swing and a humongous anti-gravity machine

The circumference of your wheels is different across the width of the tyre, effectively giving a different circumferential speed across the tyre's width. So you automatically lose any static friction and the faster- and slower-moving parts of the circumference will be pushing against each other. There won't be any linear propulsion from a completely submerged wheel unless it is on the bottom. It's beautiful 😃

Keep in mind this "Rhino" is only model size! If it was big enough to house a driver, it could effectively take on rocks (and water depth) 2-4 times bigger. Think of it this way: A normal curb is about the height you can expect a normal car to drive up. But a small RC car obviously can't do it. Whereas a huge minig truck can easily go over a much larger boulder. So it's not really a fair comparison when you give the same challenge to two "Rhinos" of different size. With active steering and full-size, I reckon it would do splendidly!

My suggestion would be to fill the wheels like Collin did, but slightly deeper and using a mesh instead of a solid plate. Setting them sunk in a bit more will keep the grip your getting from the edging, but also add in some extra in the softer mud without the wheels basically tuning into shovels. And using the mesh keeps them from filling with water and reduces the weight.

This is the most James Bruton Colin Furze project ever!! Or is it the most Colin Furze James Bruton project? The linear actuating camber is inspired 😊

Lovely team-up and the unit worked well. First time full success is hard to come by! We'd all be kicking ourselves - why didn't I follow through with the idea to put in some kind of mid-pivot steering! But hey, ver 1.1 ! Nice work.

the design work involved..superb! well done on your continued excellent projects

I always enjoy it when you're with other content creators. That look you gave Colin while in the water towards the end reminded me of starting the pulse jet all those years ago. I know how hard it must be for the stars to align to film this sort of episode but they are worth the wait. One of these a year is an absolute treat :)

I'd love to see this run with an actuator for steering. I feel like that was it's biggest weakness

James, this project was one of the best exercises in experimental locomotion I've seen you do. I'm sure you learned a great deal, especially after comparing this scaled version to Colin's Rhino. Well done!

Great video and project as alwys!! Thank you James:)

Pretty cool. Nearly got stuck there at the end!

Very clever and I hope you and Colin had a fun day! ⭐👍

Good work dude

JCB you say... James & Colin Build! (new channel, you get together, design something awesome, he builds the frames and metal bits, you 3d print and code everything else...) this would be the greatest maker channel

Great video!! I'd like to see this again with more improvements

VERY cool to see your take on a similar design.

With slightly better controlled steering and a little more weight to give bite, I reckon you have a pretty good design. Big ups for having Colin come to give an assessment, calling on the king of badgers to review your work is the mark of success

Testing at the Lamb & Furze proving grounds , love it , thanks JB

This looked like phenomenally good fun!

I love colin, he always seems so willing to help people.

you and Colin need to do some more collabs. You guys are awesome!!

I know you probably get this all the time, but I am envious of your genius. Oh, a rhyme in one line!

that looks great! hopefully this convinces more people to make tanks like this

Really fun watching the two of them together, plus some real nail-biting footage there! Will it make it? Will it drown? OH NO! Oh, whew...

I love your colaborations with colin

Ya know, in other people’s videos I have never seen footage of Colin Furse not being kind and supportive. He seems like such a good guy

Steering and waterproofing. I would really like to see another collaboration making a revised version with lessons learned.

Let's just appreciate that Colin could have just hidden in his tunnels and ignored James or he could have just done the typical KZreadr half-arsed cross promotion but instead he went out into the cold, muddy fields with James and did all the unglamourous behind the camera work without taking over the video. Legend.

Oh man! You guys should collab more!! This was very fun!

The music was a nice touch!

22:39 NOT ME THINKING YOU JUST YEETED AN ENTIRE REAL DUCK 😂😭

Seems to me it would be much more effective with the dish of the wheels facing inside instead of out, to ensure a wider track and more stability. Especially as camber is added, it would lower the frame instead of raising it. But also controlled steer angle looks to be needed. Looking forward to version 2!

Colin is just objectively a great guy and i love it!

Great video! You can see that theres some potential here with a some revisions. I think you 2 really compliment each other

This was a great vid. Great build, and the actuators to change the camber was awesome, and even better watching you guys have some fun driving it in the mud and stuff! Id love to see you BOTH work on this design and make a better one! Possibly? 😅❤🙏🏼

In relation to its smaller size, all those obstacles were massive! I think it did remarkably well. 👍

Besides the active steering, I'd think that adding some serrated metal edging to the wheels would help with grip. The rubber strips protect the plywood edging, but actually reduce grip on slippery surfaces. I envision the rubber strips staying there, and the serrated edges hanging over them.

I love these two together.

when it in rhino mode, the hole in the beam make a little sad face xD

Engineers when you tell them not to reinvent the wheel:

Love your video. This is awesome

Love to see it again with an active steering mecanism! I'm sure it will be amazing.

I think this is a hugely promising concept. What looked very obvious to me 1) The vehicle is too narrow for the wheel radius. With the wheels at full camber, the wheels almost touched in the middle underneath so it was almost riding on a hemisphere; no wonder it was quite happy to roll over. 2) Having each wheel as a hemisphere is the wrong geometry. The radius of curvature of the blade ends should be more than the radius of the wheel. So you'll end up with a truncated gherkin sort of shape. That way as the vehicle tips, the track gets wider & more stable. "Paddle wheel mode" as you said. 3) Active steering. I think you already decided that. Retain the differential wheel speed tho.

Floating wheels! Powerful active steering!

Colin's tank looks so cool with all this rust! 🙂

needs a diff lock lol. great Job James.

Now for a part three they should build one together, James's robotics know how and Colin's metal fab skills. Make a rideable one with the best chance of working!

1:50 The wood grain shows through the chrome paint so well that I struggle to convince my eyes that it's not just selective black and white footage 😂

for whatever reason, i find myself falling asleep while trying to learn about robotics, i guess i dont know enough for any of it to make sense to me, james reminds me of the genius teacher in school that i dont understand his lessons because hes too smart so i end up falling asleep

The background music for the build in this video is definitely the type of music for a bank heist set up. It really brings the whole video together

Love the Colin Furze-esque music choices!

Honestly, it did a LOT better than Colin's version. Your issues were mostly around that articulated link in the middle, it really needed to be powered in the yaw axis so you're not just relying on tank-steering, and angle-limited in the roll axis to maybe 15-20 degrees. As a first effort (well, first improvement on Colin's design) it's really impressive, but would need more iteration to actually be useful.

Like other have said love to see more colabrations between these two. one is angle grinders and sledge hammers, and the other is 3D printers and soldering iorn. Its great fun seeing them togather and i bet they could build an awsome project. Remeber Colin building that huge AT-AT, now think about James getting to do the robotics on it..... We all want to see that don't we?!

Fantastic video!

nice to see that Colin showed up !!i I deprecate that. good luck on the project

Coolest collab in the KZread maker community!

Super cool. I think American 4x4 truck tires would be a good fix for the terrain; considering lots of vehicles get stuck in the wet English mud. They always put studs or chains around them especially in the winter if its deep enough freezing for the area. I think the loss of grip is mostly a tire tread issue.

"Hooray! let's try the ditch" he said with his Vulcan enthusiasm

Awesome build bud - and nobody was injured! :D

What an awesome collab. You'd make a great team.

Great collab!

Limiting the slip *electronically* rather than mechanically should be relatively easy by adding intelligent servo control to the motor supplies. If you can't sense through the motor proper, via the drive module, then you can add an external loop(s) and simple sensors externally that then interrupt/modulate your motor feeds. Mechanically, some sharper edges on the curved part of the wheel struts would be very simple to add.

Furniture studs in the wheel ribs for a little badger claw traction when required!

Never let Colin anywhere near your project. He will get you in trouble and make you go broke

It would be really cool to make it buoyant and see how well it drives on water, like an amphibious vehicle!

Well done James that was not bad at all.

I would say that’s a result! It honestly faired way better than I expected

More really great work it’s inspiring to see ideas been worked out looked at reimagined I’d like to see a six wheeled version with slightly bigger spacing between the wheels of Jameses version And smaller wheels on a dumper truck conversion to get over the underpowering really good program

Colin had a good thought about powering the articulation joint. I'm not sure why it even has it because a skid steer does not articulate. It may help in extreme situations releasing the machine from being stuck but not during normal driving. The controls seem to need some kind of logic behind them. Manually running all the motors looks a little like flying a quadcopter manually.

The background music is exceedingly ingenious and well-done. Deh- deh- deeeh, de de ne neh- neh- puh, tch; puh, tch; puh-tch Deh- deh- deeeh, de de ne neh- neh

I think I agree with Colin - you needed a way to actively control the orientation between the fore and aft. 4WD works on a truck because the angle of the wheels to each other is actively controlled. And I do think that making the wheel "domes" solid might have given better traction as well. Thought arguably the biggest problem there was not enough mass to create enough down-force. It looked a lot like driving an empty pickup or van on the snow - too much power, not enough mass.

This dude is the lawful neutral version of Colin's chaotic neutral

Just a tip, you should bubble fillet the ends of your pockets/slots so that when you slide square boards into them you don't have to deal with the tool radiused corners interfering with the square corners of the board. Just makes things fit together much more easily

Nice combo

2 big brainers coming together. i like that. we need more content from you both

shape wise the convex shape if anything causes a loss of grip on harder ground, it has to sink in to grip, perhaps make something like a frame that is designed to flex and crumple by a small amount to maximise contact, like letting the air out of tyres to increase grip