My G3 has kept me alive on three continents.. and I will not give it up.

@Burrito69killer

3 ай бұрын

are you a mercenary?

@Manyak-dg8xz

2 ай бұрын

Hes never left his home state

@hotrodsather

2 ай бұрын

Which ones?

@ichibanxeo6447

17 күн бұрын

Kitchen, bathroom and living room

Used G3 in the Greek military as a conscript. I have seen a lot of G3s getting nasty beatings from soldiers. Didn't see bent receivers ever. The guns were quite functional with no issues. Cosmetics is another story. The guns would look like trash after 2 or 3 months of daily guard duty from new, but would function ok. Officers, special forces and professional soldiers would always prefer the FAL as it was still available to them. Consensus was that the replacement of the FAL by the G3 was a mistake. Auto was pretty much useless on the G3 for me. In training, after running, jumping over obstacles or crawling under barbwire it was pretty much impossible to control. Sure. Rested in the shooting range I could fire full auto and hit the target with half of the rounds but actual combat is not like that ...

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the post!

@magoid

4 жыл бұрын

I think you touched on a interesting point here. People often say they can do this or that at shooting range. But forgot that outside that environment, things are no rosy and the abilities demonstrated at the range will deprecate fast on the real world.

@Ricardo-eg3wn

4 жыл бұрын

Do you believe you would have performed any better with a fal? I think the simplicity of the g3 as far as maintenance and function carry’s weight over the fal. As well as the optic that was made with it.

@Balutheswabian

4 жыл бұрын

My issued G3A4 worked flawlessly over 4,5 years. it jumped with me from, went through the mud, worked absolutely fine in Somalia. No issues. Full auto was never an emphasis in training and our units often scored very highly on the KD ranges. The Spanish themselves never developed the CETME rifle. It was developed under Werner Heynen and Ludwig Vorgrimler who lead the German Development Group with people from from the british and the US occupation zone, which acted as an semi- external development group within CETME, because the Spanish wanted the know how. The initial trial models were based on the Mauser 06H. There were two Models. No.1 and no. 2. The first was a gas loader, the latter was recoil operated. Caliber was the 7,92x33. The 7,62x 51 mm was later requested after the gas loader was inferior to the recoil operated system and NATo wanted to adopt the 7,62x51. FN could´nt deliver the requested amounts of ordered rifles in a reasonable timeframe. Germany ordered 100000 rifles of the FAL. Was issued, but the German industry was to be rebuild, and they formed a RFP for a new rifle. Two Contenders made it in the semi finals, which was the G2 ( the swiss Stgw 57 in 7,62x51) and the G3. The G2 was too heavy and too expensive so the G3 got it. The reason the FAL was so widespread, was as the UK adopted it, all the commonwealth nations adopted it too.

@ioannisloukeris

4 жыл бұрын

@@Militaryarmschannel Thanks for the great job you are doing with the channel.

I love how the G3 gets it reliability by violently shitting itself with every round. So getting it caked in mud or frozen over isn’t ever too much of a problem, it thrives on lack of maintenance

@weasle2904

4 жыл бұрын

Delayed blowback has more excessive wear on the parts with higher pressure rounds. This is why it kinda sucks in 5.56 due to less material being there but still being high pressure. Its only good given a low pressure per unit area

@minhducnguyen674

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the idea of the G3 was if you can't pay for a FAL you can still get a G3 with good enough quality. Once the G3 beat itself to death, which will take a long time , just get a new one. Stamped steel guns are not meant to be repaired.

@rosomak8244

3 жыл бұрын

G3 reliability is in reality good but a far cry from stellar.

@Terminxman

3 жыл бұрын

I've never fired a G3, I was debating between a PTR clone and a DS arms FAL at one point and just the way the G3 operates was a turnoff to me, and then watching people fire it, it seemed uncontrollable and disorienting. went with the FAL and I love it, shoots very nice, i think the G3 is inherently more accurate but it's not really meant for sharpshooting

@jwilliams3170

2 жыл бұрын

I’m reliable because I too violently shit myself

The G3 was our service weapon in the Danish Army. I don't recall having just a single issue with it. Nor any of my buddies. It did not had issues or a bad rep among soldiers, except from the claw on the bolt of course :) Not an issue though. If you don't want to lose your pin for the front guard, just push it back into the guard when released from the weapon.. Ours all had the "AK" mag release and third pin in the trigger assembly. Ventilated front guard with a aluminum heat shield. It's a little wild on full throttle without bipod. I don't remember ever seeing a service G3 with the "folding" stock as you call it. Excellent service rifle. Interesting fact if you read this. The DMR variant has a cut out with checkering on the bolt for the shooters thumb. This was made so the shooter could close the bolt silently without the H&K slap, which is needed for locking the rollers.

@killert_7759

3 жыл бұрын

Survival Russia isn’t the DMR variant called like the MSG90 or something?

@Fahad-jf8pz

3 жыл бұрын

its also the service weapon of Pakistan Army

@pray4mojo35

3 жыл бұрын

Mmmm danish.

@ojh022

3 жыл бұрын

Aluminum box magazines has the weak point, they were trash

@francopantaleon

3 жыл бұрын

@@killert_7759 A

Norwegian G3 actually had a free floating barrel, the G3-F and the ring for mounting rifle grenades. The MSG90 is not an improved PSG1 however, it’s a cheapened and lightened PSG1 to be more mobile, but was not built to the same accuracy standards. Basically the PSG1 was designed for police and counter terrorism use, while the MSG90 for military and designated marksman

The South African military used both of these guns. The fal was called the R1 which was made under license by fn and the g3 was called the R2 which was also made under license. As a South African, this is a real awesome video for me.

@PrinceAlhorian

3 жыл бұрын

My father told me about both rifles, he served with both on the border in Namibia. He preferred the R1 for his own reasons.

@BosvarkDelta

2 жыл бұрын

No the R2 has the shorter barrel and folding stock G3 was not called the r2

@taproom113

2 жыл бұрын

Viva Rhodesia! ^v^

@henrykeyter53

2 жыл бұрын

No, the FN FAL was produced locally, under licence as the R1. The R2 was a folding stock FN FAL, used by the parabats. The G3 was used in very limited numbers as the R3, that's why the Galil's stated at the R4.

@m26pershing98

Жыл бұрын

@@taproom113 Rhodesia is gone (rip bozo lmao) and it will never come back. Get over it nerd.

I was in German armed forces serving as a Jäger (rifle infantry). We were trained to diassamble and reassembly a G3 in indeed 45 sec laying blindfolded on our back and placing all parts on or body. It's just a matter of training.

@rosomak8244

3 жыл бұрын

45 sec... pretty lame ;-) OK. I was able to push down the ejector spring just with my thumb (schraubstockhand).

@raimarhoeliner1798

2 жыл бұрын

I remember our Bundeswehr Waffensalat challenges. 3 guns, G3, Uzi, P1 to be assembled blind folded as fast as possible. I liked it.

@frankpienkosky5688

Жыл бұрын

@@raimarhoeliner1798 this is the first time i've seen one torn down....have yet to go that far with mine....but it just keeps on shootin'....

@sn4tx

Жыл бұрын

Ahahaha Portuguese army here. Same, same. The time he took to disassemble and assemble the G3, I Recon I could do it 2-3 times blindfolded. And believe me I’m not exaggerating. We had competitions in pitch black or blindfolded. Even today (some decades later), I’m confident I could still do it faster than he did. Well he would do much better if he wasn’t talking to a camera. Loved this video. G3 was my girlfriend for a long time. 😂 loved this video

@Slippindisc

Жыл бұрын

Ar15 can be taken down (field stripped, not armorer level) in probably 15 seconds.

I would like to point out that is not carbon build up, but is in fact an emergency portable black camouflage production facility, after all German efficiency is always at work

I served in the German Bundeswehr and carried the G3 before the G36 was issued later during my time of Service. For training we sometimes used (quite terrible) plastic cased blanks which regularly caused malfunctions. To remedy the problem with the front sitting charging handle while shooting prone we were taught a little trick. One would simply clip on the end of the leather sling to a little hole in the charging handle. That way, to clear the chamber, one simply had to pull on the sling. In many ways I actually preferred the G3 over the G36. It felt more like a true rifle. The G36, while cool looking, sort of felt like a toy.

Two things to mention that play into eachother. One: Stamping is actually a more modern method of weapon production, it's just that it's cheaper than milling which leads to point two: The G3 was cheaper to produce. For example when the swedish army trialled both guns they actually found the FAL to be slightly superior but they both performed admirably and since the G3 was cheaper that ended up being the adopted rifle. When discussing military firearms one can not forgo to mention the price/ease of production of the guns since that is always a very important factor.

@buddermonger2000

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder in what categories it was found to be superior in

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

@ Joel Martinsson - Re: " When discussing military firearms one can not forgo to mention the price/ease of production of the guns since that is always a very important factor." You've hit upon what may be the crucial factor in the longevity of the CETME/G3 design, as opposed to its greatest Cold War-era competitor, the FN FAL. The FAL Is an excellent rifle, but it is complex, has a lot of parts (field-stripping is easy, but detail stripping is not and requires tools), and is also costly and time-consuming to manufacture. In particular the forging, heat-treating and machining of billet steel. The G3 on the other hand, can be made in a faorly-spartan factory, requiring the use only of a barrel-making machine, and requires much less work with high-strength steel and replies instead on stamped sheet metal and composites/plastics. These are one reason why many nations today still use the G3 designed, either on a limited basis or in general military use, whereas almost no one still uses the FAL as a front-line military weapon: India, Argentina and Brazil are the only countries of which I am aware. Whereas Iran, Greece, Turkey, the Baltic nations of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Mexico, and many others still have G3s or CETMEs in their armories. One other factor is that the G3 design tolerates extremes of heat and cold very well. The FAL, on the other hand, while being extremely robust and reliable, has suffered occasionally from problems in the desert - and perhaps also in the cold. The latter, I would have to research... not sure on that. But the G3 works well in the ice, cold and snow. Joel, are you a Swede? I am half-Danish, as my mom is a native of Denmark. My late father was an American, but learned Danish, too. Some of our best family friends are Swedes as well as other Danes and Norwegians.

@matso3856

Жыл бұрын

Dont also forget that unlike the G3 in the video , Sweden had always had access to the best steel in the world (its own) Ive seen at least 10 different conscripts drop this thing from much higher then second floors and nothing changed , dropped from trucks/lorries and not a singel one had to be adjusted by a gunsmith , I always thought they took the G3 over the FAL for its robustness and that Sweden had/have conscripts teenager that just dont handle most things with care. Been trying the german aluminium magazines and they are not as good as the swedish ones (easy to break the lip by a large margin). I find it funny that the army got rid of it and only the national guard used it up until Afganistan , and now its back in the army for sharpshooters , with minor improvements like adjustable stock and a picatinny rail ontop for mounting aimpoint or larger optics , however the housing remains the same due to the very good accuracy despite being stamped. Edit: I forgot to mention , swedish built its own under license , and I guess to confuse people they call it AK4. One more thing to consider , they use the ammo as the KSP58 or GPMG (m240 in the US) , making it easier for logistics.

@janmale7767

24 күн бұрын

Ease of production and cost! Very important 👍

While the USA was urinating on the FAL Italy was having a BM.

@Shitbird3249

4 жыл бұрын

Comedy for gentlemen children only.

@nunyabidniz2868

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent wordplay, Bruce!

@bluecaptainIT

3 жыл бұрын

Italy: so basically, USA, you're telling me this M14 is just a Garand in 7.62x51mm and Magazine fed? USA: Exactly! It's also better than a Garand in every way! Italy:... Really? *snaps fingers* Beretta. Show them. Beretta: As you wish, my lord. *Burps BM59* USA: What the hell is this?! Italy: A Garand that is better than your M14.

@ggurwlcom420

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael Dinneweth if you ever try to browse and read the stories of most of US weapon acquisition programs it is mostly decided by lobbying and lobbyist politicians/ military officers. So the acquisition weren't exactly driven by the field experience needs.

Hopefully both rifles are still around by the time I move to America :)

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

Get moving! We need more gun owners to help in our fight to keep our rights!

@Leadfarmer337

4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to having you here.

@2TrillSenna

4 жыл бұрын

Vote Libertarian, Democrats are wolves and Republicans a wolves in sheeps clothing. I moved from Mexico in 2000. Welcome !

@firestorm165

4 жыл бұрын

I've honestly got a bad feeling that we may be looking at the last days of the 2nd amendment. If those that support it aren't seen to at least denounce the use of the military against peaceful protesters very quickly then once the smoke clears the left are going to say "Well we had a tyrannical government and the 2nd amendment was completely useless so why should we keep it around?"

@herknorth8691

4 жыл бұрын

I moved here in 2010. You won't regret it! ETA: like Esteban said, vote Libertarian when you get here.

Calling the FAL's lower receiver "sheet metal" is like calling a B-52 bomber little. Its more like plate steel. I love my FALs.

@jeyendeoso

4 жыл бұрын

is like calling Tim as "little Timmy" hahahah

@Britcarjunkie

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, when compared to a 747, a B-52 IS little!

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing about folded steel: it's stronger. A lot of people want their lower receiver to be milled, or a cast or a billet, typically because they're looking for aluminum. Forged steel, has had the absolute sh*t beat out of it, leaving behind a highly refined piece of metal.

@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobiasreaper3650 I really leave that to the engineers. What has the highest stress/pressures v weight v strength. I've seen all steel firearms to aluminum parts to plastics. I just see the FAL as being a very strong and rather heavy rifle that as dependable as the sun raising in the East. But that lower is so thick and heavy, its got to weight a couple of pounds alone. That to me was 7 miles past over kill.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962 I was told that by my dad... An engineer.

Bundeswehr: we need your FAL FN: NON...take a walk!!!! Cetme: aguanta mi cerveza!!! H&K: ich habe Schnaps!!!

@cadian122

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment lol

@robgoodsight6216

3 жыл бұрын

@@cadian122 ...completely forgot my comment! hahahah

@thehoneybadger8089

3 жыл бұрын

Germany could have had the FAL built by Steyer in Austria.

@robgoodsight6216

3 жыл бұрын

@@thehoneybadger8089 ...Germany??? Yes...but because of pride and other stuff...they build their own...

@robgoodsight6216

3 жыл бұрын

@ebrandon98 ...someone would say...just a coincidence. but the G3 and the Cetme... extremely similar...

In 8 years of service, i never saw a broken reciver on a G3. The only fragile part on the rifle is the plastic stock and handguard. The more than 30 years old plastic becomes britle in verry cold climate.

Germany: "Give us rights to build the FAL" FN: "Go pound sand!" Germany: "Give us a break. We owned your company once. We brothers."

@williamjeffersonclinton69

4 жыл бұрын

Belgium just needed to cry a river, build a bridge and get over it before they could go back to being drinking buddies again.

@Turgz

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is, germany looked for another rifle because FN couldn't deliver enough FALs in time.

@noncomplier5385

3 жыл бұрын

Think about this. If FN let Germany legally produce copies of the FAL. The G3 wouldn't of been invented. :( Both rifles are beautful.

@bluecaptainIT

3 жыл бұрын

FN Herstal: You want our rifles? Buy them! West Germany: But you're not producing enough for us, let's licence production over here! Belgium: Hell no! We're not falling for that trick again! Get wasted!

@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluecaptainIT g3 entered the chat.

In my Servicetime in 1985 i had to use a G3. I was a conscript like the others. We did’nt need to use our gun to save our life. We did’t know anything about weapons, and so we tread our Guns, with no respect or sense for sensibility. We kicked it, threw it, and did other nasty things to it. But i had never a malfunction, i could get the target up to 400m. It was reliable, precise, and easy to maintance. I wish i could get one of this old G3 today, with woodhandle and stock. Today i would be proud to have it.

@paul8158

3 жыл бұрын

leave your country, it's going south anyway, and you may get one... which essentially means, get out and save your ass, in Germany all is playing against the average Joe.

Serving in the Greek army thirty years ago, I had the opportunity to have both rifles. For 8 months the G3 and 10 months the FN. So I can have a detailed view of these rifles. G3 is harder and does not get easily clogged. FN has better accuracy. Both rifles are good, but I prefer the FN.

@rookie3315

Жыл бұрын

Actually fal has less accuracy because of the tilting bolt lock, but maybe just the g3s of greek were badly made or somthing idk

@NOMM4DER

Жыл бұрын

​@@rookie3315 Somerhing a rookie would say to a veteran.

In the past i got the chance to test a old military g3. It was converted to civilian use. The owner used it to hunt. It was one of the best guns I ever shot. I shot on a hunters target at 100m with a sight. On my first five shots I hit 10, 9, and three more 10s. I never shot this rifle and a hunters target before. I liked it very much. Greetings from Germany.

@CalvinL.Stevens

2 жыл бұрын

Leider sind funktionstüchtige, original HK G3 in Privathand in Deutschland eine Seltenheit. Den MKE Nachbau würde ich zur Not aber auch nehmen.

@Icewolf81

2 жыл бұрын

@@CalvinL.Stevens Wenn ich es richtig in Erinnerung habe dann war es auch der letzte Einsatz des Gewehrs. Wahrscheinlich wieder so ein Mist mit dem Waffenrecht. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Der Besitzer wollte noch seine Restmun aufräumen. Weswegen weiß ich aber nicht. Aber so weit ich weiß war es früher ein Original BW G3.

When I was in the Norwegian Army we used 20 seconds on disassemble and 40 seconds on assembling the AG-3 as we called it

@Xirque666

Жыл бұрын

That was the minimum time we needed to match I think as well

What really makes the action of the G3 family of weapons sing for me is the combination of brute force and split second timing. The spring-loaded claw that makes the reassembly of the bolt such a trial (especially if you have a little grease on it or your hands) keeps the bolt and carrier locked together while pressure from the rollers on the locking piece builds. When that force exceeds the claw's ability to hold on, everything starts moving at full speed, with virtually no delay from acceleration. The delay is that split second the retaining clip can hold on before it lets go, and the few millimeters of play between the locking piece and the bolt. Just don't be at about 2:00 o'clock from someone shooting one of these. The cases are definitely a secondary projectile.

The fal is an awsome rifle. My grandpa used one during his time in the military. And he owed his life to it.

Hi Tim, thx for a great channel! I was issued the G3(German manufacturer) in the Danish army and in the national guard, used them for about 15 years untill we got the Canadian C7 :( The thing that stands out to me as the best about the G3 is the precision and the diopter sights, specifically the round hood on the front sight wich makes it real easy to align the sights perfectly every time, I really dont like the bunny ears on other rifles. Maybe its because i started shooting in the local club when I was 10 yo and all the rifles there had round sights and the targets were round too.. I had no problem hitting targets at 600m every time with the G3. We zeroed them at 300m and left the diopter at 3(called combat viser) except at night, the v-notch were for nighttime shooting. In all my time in service I have seen only 1 G3 receiver bent, the soldier fell from the back of a truck and landed on the rifle.. The G3 handguards in Denmark and Germany were simpler and way more narrow than the one in this video and they were loose so they would rattle in the field untill we pinched a small piece of wood between barrel and handguard.. the furniture came in 3 variants, real wood, black or green polymer, they were usually mixed up so we had rifles in all kinds of color variants, this made it easy to find your rifle fast between all the others, this is a problem with the all black C7 The only problem about the reliability and cleaning of the G3 were the chamber flutes, we were not issued a chamber brush, only the machinegun helper in each squad had one we could borrow, it was easy though to identify this problem before it got bad, since the spent casings would get black stripes from the gunk in the flutes, the darker stripes the more need for cleaning.. The bump on the stock have never been a problem to me, just hold the rifle firmly against the shoulder and it wont hit your eyewear.. The loading handle was never locked back and slapped in my army, we pulled it back using only the thumb and indexfinger untill it hit the back and slipped thru your fingers, way faster.. After loading it thousands of times, the loading handle will wear the slot it rides in to a knifesharp edge and your fingers will bleed every time you load it untill you dull it with sandpaper.. To assemple the boltcarrier, just put in the locking piece and turn it half a turn, press the bolthead all the way in, push it back out untill the rollers are in and then turn it home, its real easy when you get it right :) Please keep doing what you are doing, cheers from Denmark

@rainerbehrendt9330

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I had a G3 as conscript in the German BW. Not a Problem with Number 1 in basic training. Worn out but accurate and easy going. Number 2 (Number 1 had to go for maintenance and a new paint job, nobody likes a shiny battle rifle) was a run down weapon with too many accidents on the road. The bold carrier need extreme force to charge. I handled it like a musket. 1 Shot, 1 twohanded charging motion. I did the next best thing for my safety and dropped it on the feet of our weapon NCO. This G3 had a bent boltcarrier. Number 3 was fine again. Never had a problem with the bolt carrier assemple. If you knew the procedure it was straightforward and easy. Tim's way is complicated and really not the normal way. My only complaint about the G3 is the missing bolt closure device. There's only one way to load a G3, the Klack Klack loud way.

We had the SLR (FAL) in British army. Brilliant piece of kit. Then it all went horribly wrong and we got the joke.

@Dusty9931

3 жыл бұрын

I cried when they took my SLR away.

@medic7698

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dusty9931 I just swore a lot trying to keep the bloody SA80 zeroed.

@Dusty9931

3 жыл бұрын

I tried not to break it.

@medic7698

3 жыл бұрын

Difficult with that heap of crap. My regiment was issued it just prior to an NI tour.

@Dusty9931

3 жыл бұрын

Least said soonest mended.... .

I love it both of them I served as a conscript in the Greek Army and I used the G3A3 and the FN FAL Para version the last one at Greek Turkish Border and the Para version was really awesome a Bad Ass rifle my best friend during my Army Time

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

@ Christos - Respects from an American for the resolute way in which Greece has stood against the Turks. If it was up to me, Ankara would never have been invited into NATO in the first place.

@lakisg2289

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Nice hearing your point of view. Those salvaged Mongols sould never existed in our area.. Is our duty to send back home, or for some pilaf..

@BabaRonaldo

Жыл бұрын

@@lakisg2289 First of all, the Mongols were genetically more similar to the Koreans and the Japanese, and the Turks were tall and large compared to the Mongols, the Mongols have slanted eyes.

@BabaRonaldo

Жыл бұрын

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Let's get to the main subject, turkey was taken as a buffer zone against nato soviets. nato chooses its members according to its interests, not for Hellenists like you.Well, I'm asking you, do I prefer a country with 80 million population and an army that has experience in all kinds of guerrilla wars and army wars, or a simple half-candidate for NATO.

@GeorgiaBoy1961

Жыл бұрын

@@BabaRonaldo - "Hellenist" - what kind of juvenile nonsense is that? I don't give a tinker's damn why Turkey was selected to be in NATO, they had and have no business being in the alliance. For starters, the Turks - who are an Islamic people - are the oldest enemies of European civilization. Second, their interests do not align with the West and virtually never have. Admitting them to any otherwise western alliance is opening the hen-house to the fox. Apologists will counter that Ataturk "secularized" Turkey, but that's rubbish. Turkey is reverting to what it has always been throughout its long history, an explicitly Islamic nation, and their current President - Mr. Erdogan - is simply one reflection of that. In any conflict with Turkey, I would side with Greece, every single time. That clear enough for you??

...ah! Here's a chance for me to roll out my "G3/HK story". Back when I was a young trooper, in 2nd Phase of SF School (Weapons), one of the instructors told me this gem: an MTT (mobile training team) was sent to Saudi Arabia (I think it was, although it may have been Pakistan, Oman, Antarctica or the Moon...it was almost 40 years ago). They'd just gotten in a load of G3's (the HK demonstrated here, but full auto-capable) as a change of primary firearm. They found that the soldiers had trouble with the cocking cycle of the rifle. The rollers would lock and the troopers didn't have the juice to pull the charging handle back. One day, soon into training, in the way that soldiers all over the world have of mickey-mousing around a problem, the 11BS instructors (now, it'd be 18B's) saw their work-around. The Saudis (Omanis, Pakistanis, Martians, whatever) took a length of parachute cord (550 cord, for those of you who know the drill), attached on one end to the cocking piece, the other tied to the sling fixture in the rear of the rifle. The 550 cord had a bit of slack in it. The troopers would put the rifles down the about knee level, put their foot on the 550 cord, and draw the rifle up to their chests...and that'd be enough beef to break the roller and chamber a round. The 550 cord wouldn't get in the way, and *SHAZZAM* the troopers would have a working, loaded rifle. Personally, I've never liked cocking a G3/HK, and MUCH prefer the function, looks and everything else about the FAL. It's just pretty. Anyway, that's my "G3/HK story"...and I'm sticking to it. Hope that it amuses all the old weapons guys out there....

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but can they cock a WWII PIAT? The old joke by the late great Ian Hoag - the small-arms and weapons historian - was that when a British trooper knocked out a Tiger tank with his PIAT and got the VC, it should have been just for cocking and firing the darned thing, and not destroying that German tank! The mainspring in the PIAT was a real bast*rd to cock and lock back... just a great big bloody spring.

I want one of each, but if I had to pick one, I'd pick the G3. I've always liked that rifle. It's just cool looking.

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

They are great rifles.

@Darth-Nihilus1

4 жыл бұрын

I have a HK91 and hands down my favorite 7.62 NATO rifle I own but the FAL when gassed right is nice to

@joesgarage5385

4 жыл бұрын

@@Militaryarmschannel They're like children, I love them both!

@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093

4 жыл бұрын

That is why I bought an HK-91 way back when. Because it is cool looking. Actually using it I learned to hate it and eventually traded it to a landlord for a year's worth of rent. I still have an M1A and AR-10.

@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093

3 жыл бұрын

@Vince You're just sad that you can't afford one even with a full year of your 'salary.'

Thank you for making these videos. It's been over 30 years since I held a G3 and it was very interesting to see it broken down. It's strange that I have a memory of it being a bit tricky to disassemble or assemble at first, but once you learned a few tricks it was very simple and fast. Problem is I have absolutely no memory of what those tricks were. What I do remember is the frustration with the non captive take down pins, and that there were only two storage positions for them. I remember that it seemed like every time you took off the hand guard that third pin made a run for freedom. While watching the video I tried to visualize how I was taught to handle the bolt but got nothing. I do remember that it took some time to learn how to reassemble it in the dark. Like a really long time, especially when the instructors gave you the pieces for your rifle in a plastic bag. There was probably some trick to it making easy to the degree that I didn't really think about it. It's one of those things that probably would come back if I got one in my hands again. Another thing is I didn't remember it as running dirty, but then it was the only automatic rifle I've used so it was just the normal state for me. I do remember that it took a while to understand how the roller delay blow back system worked. First time I had it spread out in front of me I just couldn't wrap my head around the principles but after assembling and disassembling it a few times the coin eventually dropped.

Here in Portugal we have the g3. It is still in use. At the moment we are equiping many G3’s with the spuhr conversion kit. It is an amazing gun, incredibly soft shooting and the hk slap feels amazing. It is old, but is still on of the best guns ever. But I prefer the FAL.

@Darth-Nihilus1

4 жыл бұрын

I have an HK91 with an HK21 club foot and I really love it

@umarmars47

2 жыл бұрын

Why though?

One word to describe the Ergos of the G3: Teutonic

@shanevaughan2440

4 жыл бұрын

Correct

@bobby398

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Patter I don’t know who that is

@Shadow0fd3ath24

4 жыл бұрын

funny way of spelling "shitty"

@thehoneybadger8089

3 жыл бұрын

Hispanic, actually.

Hi.... I was quite familiar with both the G3 and the FN when I was in Rhodesia - the G3's were generally the Portuguese ones. I had a choice of either when I changed forces and I chose the FN, primarily because I had used it more and I found the Strip/Cleaning of the G3 cumbersome compared to the FN - not to mention took longer if "on the clock"... But like you stated, the cocking/loading was also awkward on the G3. To be honest, the only thing good about it, is the Round....lol. Sorry. Just cannot beat the 7.62 "Sleeping Tablet"! Thanks for a great Video - they're always great if it has an FN staring!

@ldkbudda4176

3 жыл бұрын

But you all LOST to Kalashnikovs in 7,62x39!!!!

@perseusrex614

3 жыл бұрын

@@ldkbudda4176 holy fack thats one ignorant comment...

@andrewwatson9805

3 жыл бұрын

@Wild Bill: Same experience.

@perseusrex614

3 жыл бұрын

great to know, thank you. Respect for your service.

@henrykeyter53

2 жыл бұрын

@LDK Budda You uneducated swine. Neither Rhodesia nor South Africa lost their wars on the military front. Both the Selous Scouts and 32 Battalion said the AK's can only kill a scared terrorist once the weight of the bullets is too much to bear.

We used to hammer the FALs on the ranges with the British Army at Catterick... The worst I've seen was a 57 pattern flash eliminator explode. They were subject to recall for this! The ergonomics were some of Enfields best work!.. However during Desert Storm the failure rate was exceptionally high... No weapon likes sandy conditions, but the FALs suffer badly!.. Great vid!

The endless reliability of the G3 will always over rule it over the FAL. I love the FAL. Looks beautiful and shoots smoother, but it can handle debris as good as the G3 can.

@ommsterlitz1805

Жыл бұрын

Like you said the FN FAL can handle debris as good as the G3 can.

I ended up selling my AR in favor of buying a rifle I would never have to worry about. I bought a G3 and I’ve never looked back. It goes boom every single time and I’ve never had a single issue with it. Sure, it has some quirks like absolutely destroying brass or being pretty heavy, but overall I’m extremely happy with it and intend to start using it for feral hog control this year.

@alexbrutlag6022

2 жыл бұрын

So I just bought the PTR 91 version of the G3. How does it do with cheap steel case surplus ammo since it’s the only thing available right now?

@jeremiahcherry5283

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexbrutlag6022 hit and miss. Some people complain that theirs only runs on brass, others say theirs only runs well on steel. With mine, it fired steel fine but is struggling with brass. Mine is brand new. So in time it should work itself in.

@raskal5988

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremiahcherry5283 how is it now?

I love them both. Grew up a child of the cold war and these two were my favorites. Today I own two PTR 91s (HK 91 clones) and I'm hoping to add a DSA FAL sometime next year. Thanks for the review! I always appreciate G3/FAL content!

Thanks. I really enjoyed this video. I have always been more interested in pistols. But actually learning about the G3 and HK 91 rifles, instead of just looking at them on gun store racks with awe circa 1985 is a treat and a service. This was my second battle rifle video of yours to see and I felt the need to thank you. I just watched an interesting vid from 2aEdu about WWI milsurp rifles. Thanks to you two guys, now I'm hooked. Heading back to watch your vids on the FAL. Proud to see a fellow Hoosier is so knowledgable, but humble, and not full of all the "guru hype."

Hey ! thanks for your nice videos ! I am a Greek conscript and now National guard volunteer , i've lot's of experience with the G3 and the H&K 11. I have operated but not shot the COLT m4 and have shot a few times the AK 47. I am an athletic guy at 6.4 and 92 kilos and been playing basketball and doing crossfit for a significant amount of time... never been in real combat situation but from simple training manouvers with the army i can tell you a couple of things that for me seem to be the most relevant to a tactical situation. Despite my strength and abilities , if you have to run to a position either charging or fleeing, or even if you need to advance uphill and have to use your rifle at the same time, the much lighter fully loaded AR is a huge advantage. Another thing you gonna need is reliability which i must say i had bad experiences with both the AK and the G3 , with the G3 being somewhat easier to unjam. Forget bullet speed and power if you are out of breath and can't even hold your weapon up because it weights almost double as the AR ... other than that all of them babies look and feel good when they go bang !

A one up for the G3 is that it’s still in service today in some armies where the FAL is not with few exceptions like Brazil

@eduardoantunes3825

4 жыл бұрын

Even in Brazil they are slowly being replaced by the IMBEL IA2. The replacement process might take a few years and I would guess some FALs will remain in storage or eventually be used by conscripts.

@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu

4 жыл бұрын

That is because FN considers the SCAR - H as the spiritual heir of the FAL, they don't produce FAL components anymore. However FAL is still in use in several armies around the world, where is kept in service through local armories or contracts with companies like DS Arms

@hansstrouf

3 жыл бұрын

@@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu FN no longer makes Fal for 45 years, it no longer has the machines to make it, digital machines have replaced all conventional machines, there is no more genius like Saive inventor of the FN Fal or FN Mag or Vervier inventor of the FN FNC and M 249 , Today everything is designed by computers .

@justing42

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t make the FAL junk....see M1 Garand

@Therealguymins

3 жыл бұрын

I love both guns but FALs just scream third-world country military to me. G3s have an iconic silhouette on par with an M16 or AK-47 that I don't think will ever look out of place in a modern setting. I mean, G3s pretty much look like long MP5s, so...

I’m in California, the ptr 91 variety was the most affordable.308 I can get easily. Or could at the time. I had never used one before and loved learning it’s quirks. With iron sights it shoots very accurately, and it doesn’t kick too bad in my opinion. I still love it because it just feels like a tank when you use it.

I've owned both... The takedown/reassembly of the G3/91 was so much a pain in the butt, that it overshadows the pitfalls of the FN/L1A1 (poor rear sight and having special gauges/locking shoulders to match bolt)...

Yay for the FAL! Yay for the G1 (I have a number of FALs built from G1 parts kits). "Right arm of the free world," "Be a man among men," and all that. Gotta love 'em.

@riffraff9000

3 жыл бұрын

@Vince I get twenty bangs out of mine. They all run like a top. \m/

I already see the FAL winning but the G3 is still more beautiful to me. The strengthening ribs all around the upper receiver, clean angles on the lower receiver, distinctive diopter sights, no pins sticking out, apparent accuracy/precision advantage. The FAL is still pretty but the G3 is smoother looking.

I bought my FAL, a metric version, in 1992 with an STG58 receiver and I love it. I upgraded to the newer plastic furniture and added the bolt cover scope mount. The sights were fine but my eyes were not at that point. I’ve fired many rds through it with no problems. Glad you chose it because I own one I suppose if for no other reason. Well done video as always!

My 1st service rifle was a Garand, and my second was the G-3. The "hump" on the G-3 does not get in the way of glasses in any position IME. More important, the hump can save your life. Its made like that so your head stays as low as possible and the sights are as low as possible. Your head being a inch or less higher or lower is the difference in if it stays on your shoulders or not... Both great rifles, both will serve very well. G-3 has the edge IMO because its more handy and more reliable. Has better sights too. Good vid, thanks.

@jackkrinkov9273

2 жыл бұрын

The Garand?? You must be really fucking old!!!

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackkrinkov9273 the fact he's using KZread is impressive

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

I do love me some HK ring sights.

@perseusrex614

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackkrinkov9273 Good deduction there sherlock, that must have hurt.

@frankpienkosky5688

Жыл бұрын

@@perseusrex614 my Hk91 has accuracy to match all my sporting rifles...and still hits hard all the way out to hundreds of yds...like most of these guns though, it is practically uncontrollable on full-auto...adding that feature did add considerably to its value though....if you don't have to lug it around all day..[along with the weight of the ammo]...it is definitely preferable to the AR.....

In my Army days (early 90s) the G3 was (and still is) the weapon to use. The Portuguese armed forces uses it to this day, bu it's being replace by the SCAR. They wore made in Portugal under German license. Our version had the flap for the magazine release, the hand guard had one pin on the front and one pin on the back to release the hand guard (just like the picture you showed).This weapon was a beast, heavy as hell but, it could take a beating and keep on working. There was a recurrent joke in the army, if you could break the butt stock while falling to ground to assume an immediate prone shooting positing, you wore awarded a beer! Needless to say, first you had to survive the push ups of the platoon Sergeant to get the beer!

My country used both in the 70's to early 90's. The FAL was used by the military & the G3A4 in conjunction with MP5A5 was used by Law enforcement.

As a former member of the German Navy I have experience with the G 3 and I can underline your statement/opinion about this rifle. It is a robust and precise waepon, yes, but .... that thing was always a pain in the ass for cleaning it, even after only one shut it was internaly completely dirty and not easy to clean, having checked the result of the cleaning process by the drilll-sergeants, it was almost unpossible to satisfy them. That was the one big disadvantage and the other was (at least for myself) the unprecise trigger-point, which was for every shot a little different, nevertheless, I had good shooting results with this weapon. I can't say something about the FAL, but I trust your expertise and the fact that this weapon was Germany's first choice speaks for itself. Very good review, thank you.

Tim I enjoy so much when you review "classic/vintage" firearms because of the historical background you present. Very informative and entertaining. Keep it up sir!

Having been a conscript in the Greek army, i have had the luck to use the most iconic firearms in the western world. First month of duty, basic training with the M1. Then, next ten months or so, my standard rifle was a G3A4 (folding stock version) but i have also fired the G3A3 (the one you show in your video) in several occasions. Last but not least, during the last six months i was transferred to a unit where standard rifle was the FAL. Being a sergeant, i was issued the PARA variant (again with folding stock). I will have to admit i also liked the FAL just a little bit more. The G3 was easier to use "out of the box" whilst the FAL needed some getting used to. Sure, it was longer and a bit heavier but it was a joy to fire.

The G3 series, when you have one from a reputable maker, is nearly bombproof. They are so modular you can do dozens of things with them the FAL cannot do. And I can do a sweet trigger job on them quite easily. Of course the new ones have a dual spring system in the trigger than helps tremendously. Your buttstock is simply too short for you. I usually put a spacer soft rubber pad on mine. Can still see through the sights just fine. A little bit of dayglo paint on the front site post helps. I do wish it was designed to hold open on the last round as a factory install, but we are able to modify our magazines for it and it works just fine. Have to say, looking only at the video, the FAL appeared to have more and sharper recoil. Maybe the shooting position. For competition, and lately for all around use, I use 130 grain bullets. The rifle loves them, more accurate (lately), and recoil is hardly felt (comparing), dependability is excellent. I have not tried this with our FAL's yet. I have probably put 1/2 a million rounds through G3's, in the field. A quarter that many through various FALS. The fact you were able to hit your HK against a tree to get it working again says a lot FoR it. It is also much easier to service the small items on the gun (trigger assembly, put in keeper pins, etc) than an FAL. There are substantial improvements in the newer "G3"'s. Including a welded picatinny rail. Come on your guys, welding it helps the gun, and you are not ruining the Mona Lisa. It is a gun. The G3 is also a lot cheaper to manufacture than the FAL. I could never completely rely on an FAL in the field for long term use. They are tough but they are touchy in the rough stuff and when truly dirty just make a better club than a gun. I have never seen a G3 stop from dirt or much. I have used my first G3 for over 40 years, and modified it so much it looks like a space gun now. I have attached part of my sling to the forward bolt lever, and use it to retract the bolt when I can't reach up that far. Works perfectly. You also didn't mention that a G3 can take down two enemy at the same time. The way the shell ejects, banging off the port and bouncing forward can protect your 3 oclock ! Haha ! Even left handers don't mind it. I install a rubber bumper on the rear of the port to keep from denting brass and reload for that gun on a regular basis. Oh, nice trick for reinstalling the roller bolt, lock and firing pin, good method. Summary, final opinion of using a 7.62 NATO of full auto for the average soldier. Stop that. It is only for extreme emergencies, and is a well known way to "disarm" your self by running out of ammo, and still not hitting anything.

~2004, My dude carried a G3 in Iraq as a contractor. He said he took it apart to clean it and had to phone a two bros to help him reassemble it. He said he just went down and bought an AK bec he was the only bro not running one!

Neat getting a chance to learn the history and design of some of these rifles. Keep up this series!

My dad had a Springfield armory G3. Loved that thing. True battle rifle

Another excellent video. A few years ago, I made the decision to pick up one of the two platforms covered in the video. After examining both platforms, I chose the FAL for the reasons you stated. One critical reason I chose the FAL over the G3 platform was the recoil impulse. The G3 wobbles at the end of the recoil cycle due to the massive bolt and bolt assembly slamming itself to the rear. It is clearly visible in your video. The wobble is disruptive and it detrimental to quick follow-up shots because the shooter must pause ever so slightly to allow the rifle to settle and to reacquire the target.

This was very well done, so nice to see a review of the HK91/G3 by a person very familiar with the weapons system. Thank You

Best weaponry youtube channel. Extremely concise, informative, yet amusingly presented.

YES! Ha! totally agree the reasons for the FAL, I have had both several times, and have remained with the FAL. I too, find the G3 type hard if you are wearing glasses as myself. On rapped fire, it jiggles your glasses so much, fells like you are watching a earthquake movie. I do love both, along with the M1A, but the FAL is my choice.

My understanding is that PTR makes licensed copies, whereas every other company like centuray arms etc. is making "clones" Thanks as always MAC!

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

PTR bought the tooling, and possibly the license, from a country no longer making them. However, their current production methods are nothing like the original production methods. They've modernized by using CNC. When I visited Turkey and MKE they were still making them like it was 1970. The PTR has evolved into a decent rifle. Early examples lacked fluted chambers and stuff, but today's rifles (I have one) are quality made IMHO.

@Minuteman4Jesus

4 жыл бұрын

@@Militaryarmschannel I know this is a bit off-topic, but the shirt you wore in this video is a style & pattern I find interesting. Maybe you could hit me up privately & tell me more? Minuteman1969 at protonmail dot com.

@marcuschauvin7039

4 жыл бұрын

Ptr makes an excellent G3 copy

@bigcitydiddystraighttalkmi7834

4 жыл бұрын

The nice thing about PTR if you don’t like some of the parts you can replace them with HK factory ones

@Islandjud

4 жыл бұрын

@@Minuteman4Jesus it looks like a Baltic design to me. Norwegian maybe?

It's not often that my mind is changed, but a good argument from someone well informed makes a difference. thanks!

My dad carried a variant of the FAL (R1), he said that it would jam if you loaded it with more than 18 rounds (could be the mags they used) and it didnt like the sandy conditions of the border, hence the R4 (Galil) being adopted. My dad has always said though that due to the accuracy and immense hitting power of the R1 he really liked it. Awesome video, I learnt a lot about both guns.

I absolutely love my G3 favorite rifle in the world. It is hard to describe the feeling you get when you shoot this rifle. It is more than accurate enough. It is extremely reliable and it is very fun to shoot. What more could you want from your rifle.

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, a last shot bolt hold-open and a redesigned charging handle location would be nice! And a better trigger, too.

The G3 or FAL are much more practical than the overpriced SCAR 17S

@Rikarth

2 жыл бұрын

You are entitled to your opinion, but i am glad you are not in charge of small arms procurement haha. There are modernized G3s which work fine but they aren't as good as a SCAR, Not only is the gun more light weight, but your wallet will be too! Now that's tactical.

@robbywoolums9071

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not. The SCAR is better in every metric. Are those advantages worth the price? That’s up for the buyer to decide.

@JohnDoe-xu6uu

2 жыл бұрын

Yep the scar will never be as widely used and iconic as the g3 and fal. And the price will keep it out of the hands of most civilians.

@Carnefice

Жыл бұрын

@@robbywoolums9071 the SCAR is a failure

@shockwave6213

Жыл бұрын

The SCAR is a damn good rifle but FN has their heads up their asses if they think a gun made with so many polymer parts has any business being anywhere near the price of a mostly stamped steel gun, let alone double the price.

Excellent Demonstration and Best Insightful Knowledge of mfg and background I have ever seen in one place. G1 Mention AA+ and comparisons of FAL and other era iron shows MACs encyclopedia of knowledge!

Your talking about the thin sheet metal bending and binding up the bolt. I agree, I have a cetme and the charging handle tube got bumped leaving a dent in it. The charging handle would work afterwards.

As a Swede I´m happy to see you dress accordingly. The military co-operation has always been huge between our country´s. BTW, the Swedish AK4 variant of said G3 (nowadays obsolete, but anyway) is awesome in arctic climates. Very reliable indeed! Great video, keep up the good work!

@TonyMontana-lu3yb

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who noticed he's wearing Swedish camo.

@mikaelhammar1935

Жыл бұрын

Ak4c still in use in Sweden

Love them both...kinda like you love all of your children, and each has different strengths. HK design is more modular and I believe a more simple to maintain design, while the FAL is extremely durable and softer shooting. You really need both in the collection!

We had it when I was in the Norwegian Army in 2008. I only used the rear sight on the 200m setting, due to the trajectory of the round. It's basically "flat" at 200m and 30m, so at those two distances, the sight picture is exactly the same, so I didn't really bother fiddling with the rear sight at all. The whole bolt/bolt-carrier disassembly part made me smile, it definitely was a bitch to learn at first, and as you said, it's all about technique! Stay safe! Cheers!

Thankful for all the info you provide us, I'm not sure when you filmed this but I hope you didnt mess up your RC and/or other parts of your back just for us :) Hope you're feeling better!

Suprised to see Portugal mentioned!! 🇵🇹🔥💪🏼 Much love from this side of the pond!!

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@hanneswegener3295

4 жыл бұрын

Greetings to Portugal from Germany! ~ a G3-brother

Might be interesting to compare a modernized FAL versus a modernized G3. I'm not sure what's out there in terms of modernizing a FAL, but Spuhr is doing a lot of interesting stuff with the G3.

@RexApplegate

4 жыл бұрын

Trouble is the fal was adopted in a battle cartridge instead of an assault cartridge as intended, and between that and the generally superior Stoner system coming out the next decade, it never had a chance or even really a reason to truly be optimized before it began getting ditched by first world nations. Accuracy, recoil impulse, sand ingress, weight, these are problems you can't fix on them if your goal is modern standards.

I bought a STG.58 parts kit from Tapco, yes that Tapco, over 20 years ago when they were selling Mil Surp in Georgia.

Big gun guy here. Love the rifle. My G3 story goes like this. About 1990 I went surfing in Playa Linda, Mexico. Very remote area. A buddy and I were robbed by Mexican police wielding G3's. Believe me when I tell you, staring down the business end of that rifle isn't my idea of fun.

Every time my dad took us to Mexico, the officers always came and inspected our paper work, they carried a G3. Always loved this gun since I was a lad.

Two days ago I was at a gun show. On one table was a new DSA (FN clone) FAL for $1600. On another table lay a C308 (G3 clone), $700. I went home with the C308.

@kfitz77555

3 жыл бұрын

Dang that's a deal! Which state was the gun show in?

@Plata-ori-plumbu

3 жыл бұрын

@@kfitz77555 Miami, FL. Turned out the seller was a pawn shop 1500ft from my house.

@buddermonger2000

3 жыл бұрын

To my knowledge the C308s have a reputation of being very poor quality rifles as they're cut up and hacked back together. Better off with a PTR for a G3 (still cheaper than that FAL and DSA has gone down in quality anyway I've heard).

@Plata-ori-plumbu

3 жыл бұрын

@@buddermonger2000 The old wood-stock C308s had a lot of problems. The polymer-lower ones nowadays are PTR bodied. Only the sights, internals and a few other parts are CETME. Even the stamped receiver is PTR, labeled "Century C308 Sporter."

@buddermonger2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@Plata-ori-plumbu Got it. Thank you.

great video. one pointer I learned for the HK type rifle is palm up when pulling back on charging handle. So much more confidence your not going to tear flesh on the sheet metal hook

I used the SLR FAL in the 70-80s and never had cause to curse a failure . It was a friend to me and a death sentence to my enemies. Loved to then and still , do it saved my life more times than I care to mention . It’s like that old saying “ when to going gets tough, the FAL gets going”. .

@opinionatedpossum1945

Жыл бұрын

Where did you serve?

I had the opportunity to use both rifles as a conscript in the Greek army signal corps back in 1987-1988. The FAL was very highly regarded by both officers and soldiers. The G-3 not so much. Both were very reliable and very accurate. The FAL had sights which allowed one to aim at 600m as opposed to 400m for the G3. But we never trained beyond 300m. Both were nice rifles but i liked the G3 better. It was very accurate and simpler to operate and maintain for me. Later i was issued the HK-11 which i absolutely loved. The biggest drawback for the G3 was the awkward cocking lever. Other than that, it was a great rifle.

The G3`s we`ve had in the German military had different handguards. It was indeed a good rifle

Great video. I have never owned or shot either rifle. Mine was the M-14. As I had never shot a semi-auto until I ended up in the Army of King Lyndon the First I loved my M14. That's the name of the game I have discovered. A Grunt loves the rifle he has and will be using in the bind. Your conclusions were fine and after reading many of the comments it seems that most men who had to have them loved the one they had.

I really wanted a PTR G3 clone of a H&K G3 , just wasn't in my budget. Thanks for the history lesson of the H&K G3 , Tim !!!!!!!!! Another awesome video MAC !!!!!!!!!!!!

Most entertaining KZread creator thanks Mac for all the great content you produce

@Militaryarmschannel

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Another awesome video! I thought those stamped HK recievers were pretty robust, really surprised to hear that experience. On the other hand, shooting it literally pounded the problem away.

@joesgarage5385

4 жыл бұрын

I'm a big delayed roller lock fan and I've noticed there are variances of hardness/qualities of sheet metal, particularly among the clone manufacturers, Just like mentioned about the claw pinching the receiver, some seem easily bent while others are strong, as though they were milled. I don't think it's out of the question that a batch of sheet not to the same spec getting through and or not hardened properly by Ebo or HK.

@LifeisGood762

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesgarage5385 That makes a lot of sense.

Thanks MAC for all these quality videos! I really appreciate your work and commitment.

Great review of both rifles. I have the Greek SAR8, an Imbel Brazilian FAL, and a Springfield M1A. I love all 3 rifles, each for their uniqueness. I find all 3 to be reliable and would never hesitate to grab either one and put it to good use. I really do wish they shared a common magazine, but I have enough of each. A common magazine would've just been nice from the gear swap aspect.

We always knew how this would shake out. The king of the 7.62s was always going to win. As is right. It is the way.

When I Served in the Greek army I used g3a3, g3a4 and fn para. I liked all of them but I fell in love with my fn para! So sad they stopped using them.

Good break down. I accidentally came across this video in researching videos on anything about the PTR-91. I enjoyed the video since it well indepth of the military history and basic PMCS. Thank you for tge heads up about only use HK claw mounts not knock offs.

Just got a PTR 91. It is the GI model with the pic rail welded on the top of the receiver. Scope is on the way. Have an Underwood M1 carbine with a pistol scope forward mounted. Love that set up. Wanted one with more reach. Hope to love it as much. Just getting it broken in. Time will tell.

Loved My FAL. Was disappointed when we converted to M16 family of weapons. I learned to appreciate it being a lot lighter to lug around the countryside.

@minuteman4199

4 жыл бұрын

@@8166PC1 Indeed it does. The FALs we had weight about ten pounds with a full mag, and were only semi auto. They were awkward to carry around compared to an M16. On the plus side of the ledger I could hit targets at 600m with it, possibly father, but that was the farthest I ever got to try.

If I had to take one into battle, it would probably be the G3. Not having to worry about gas settings, great reliability in adverse conditions, a more stable optics mounting platform, and slightly shorter overall length, are the main reasons.

Great comparison video! I had a HK-91 years ago, and it was a great rifle, but just too heavy with the big bolt carrier group clunking around…. it just cycled ‘weird’ to me. And the crud factor cannot be understated. With the fluted chamber using hot gas to blast the cases loose, EVERYTHING inside the receiver is caked in carbon quickly. It never failed to go bang when needed, had zero AD malfunctions, never jammed. Made a good ‘OHH H&K!’ trade token. Never had a FAL, but I’m interested, if one comes along.

I first fired the SLR as a boy of 14 in the Army cadets, I then went on to use this weapon in the Regular British army. This weapon is the nuts! I have fired the G3 in Kenya and did not get on with it, it was over reach for cocking the rifle, the recoil was over harsh on the forward action causing the weapon to dip forward and pulling me off my sight picture. I am a firm SLR fan. Love the show by the way man, very informative.

"You have chosen wisely". Loving this series your doing Bro, Thumbs up!~John

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Thanks brother!

Finally a G3! Very nice video :)

Portuguese Navy between 94 and 97 and my service weapons were the HK G3 and Walter P38 9mm. Love the G3. Its sturdiness and easy to use and clean. The 20 rounds mag were more than efficient. Best rifle ever. The Portuguese G3 had the release flap instead of the release notch. More practical.

We used the SLR L1A2 (UK license built FAL). We very rarely used the SUIT sights. But often used Starlight IR night sights. ( which were Huge) made the rifle bit heavy and cumbersome.... but if you was in a static position like trench or building. It was ok. I remember the rifle kick would catch many guys out. Many getting black eyes. Also getting hit by the extracted cases on the range... Often found it prone to over heating. If you fire 60 rounds it got hot. Also found it prone to gas stoppages. So having to adjust the gas setting. Seen many illegal mods made... normally involving putting match sticks in the trigger cier. To make it full auto... ( 1 bang from first round in chamber. Then constant auto bangs till it ran out of ammo or had a stoppage.) We also used the LMG magazines if we could get them as 30rnds instead of 20rnds.... but the problem was the LMG mag is meant as a gravity freed mag. And has weak springs... so this could cause stoppages... What I remember most was how everyone always complained about the rifle... and how everyone wanted the G3's, or the AK, or the AR/m16.. ( having used all of them I'd now say I prefer the SLR/FAL). What's also interesting is how many older guys berate the newer rifles and say they want the SLR... and how wonderful the SLR was... (it wasn't.... it was a total PIG). Yes it had some advantages over hewer rifles.. but it was very good at 1 or 2 task types.. but terrible at many other tasks. Ie in woods, jungle or in buildings... where as newer rifles tend to be all rounders... not great at any one task.... but versatile enough to use in all different situations. One really big plus for the SLR.... was it could be easily converted for left or right shooters. Something many rifles can not do... ( or they can... but government won't buy them). I do have some fond memories of my SLR ( and few bad ones to). If we were allowed them in UK. I'd probably have one for my collection... infact I think we may be able to get single shot centre pull versions that comply with UK laws..... Will have to look). As we were always told.... If you run out of Ammo.... you could always poke the enemy with it.

Two beautiful rifles. I really like the G3A3 though. No.. wait the FAL. Wait, no. I want both.

I have owned both the FAL and G3 in rifle and paratrooper versions and for me the G3 is just a more versatile gun. I have a PTR pistol that I SBR'd to make a G3KA4 and until 2020 was my goto gun! The only reason it is not now is POF came out with the Rogue!

Well done, with excellent points made. Please continue with this series!

You got my approval of the fall I've been looking for a budget 308 battle rifle and thanks for helping