The stress and emotions they're feeling in this Bootcamp are some of the same when you get your first job in the industry. For the first year of my entry-level position, I felt like I was drowning the entire time. There is just so much to learn especially if you are full stack. One of the best aspects of programming is that your employer will pay you to learn. No matter how many years of experience you have, Google is your best friend. Never feel like you have to remember everything. I still Google basic stuff every day even after 10+ years. I'm not sure these accelerated Bootcamps are the best, but if it helps you get a job it's worth it.

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

"One of the best aspects of programming is that your employer will pay you to learn." So true!! Thanks for sharing your advice. 🙏

I completed the Le Wagon web development bootcamp in Singapore last year and experienced the same stress and emotions that these students went through lol

@esq5011

2 жыл бұрын

But did you get a good job at the end?

@billy.n2813

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

I like these real life documentations of the journey learning to become a software developer. Are there any other similar documentaries on this journey that people have watched and would like to recommend?

Was looking at attending Le wagon this doc is great thanks guys.

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! 🙏

excellent docu-series!

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🤗

I always enjoy the soulless stare at the monitor look because I can relate

love this!

@alishapayne4121

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

In a bootcamp currently : (

To be honest ... This seems like an unhealthy way to learn anything .... let alone programming where you need to take mental breaks often !! The dude said he did a continuous 10-hour programming session ... I really can't get behind that !! As a programmer myself, I would discourage anyone who would want to follow this approach !! They all seem so exhausted !! I feel sad for them!

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

Bootcamps are intense indeed! What do you think is the best way to learn? 😊

@v0nnyboy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Honeypotio Stretching out the Bootcamp a little longer so as to allow some breathing space would be a good start! Programming is a hard skill to learn, but one does not have to make the whole experience torture for people enrolling in bootcamps !! At this rate, they'd be burnt out even before they join a company!

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point, yes!

@xjuhox

2 жыл бұрын

@@Honeypotio You need to have many breaks to do stress-masturbation. That is, circle jerking should be an integral part of any successful coding bootcamp.

@awwtergirl7040

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I highly doubt there was *good* learning going on after the 2 hour mark. Diminishing returns after 1 hour usually.

Vielen, vielen Dank, BERLIN, dass Sie meine Programmierfähigkeiten und Computerkenntnisse erstaunlich perfekt (absolute Perfektion) sowie makellos makellos und makellos exzellent in höchstem Maße gemacht haben! Ich bin völlig erstaunt und verblüfft über diesen perfekten Erfolg! Das Anschauen dieser Videos ist sehr inspirierend, kraftvoll und motivierend!

awesome

What really happens is a lot of money turns into networking opportunities and a potential job offer. For some, it's a good thing ... but others are just wasting money. Did I mention it's a lot of money?

@sangomalsa

2 жыл бұрын

It can be expensive but its still considerably cheaper than a 3 year degree.

@edwardcullen1739

2 жыл бұрын

@@sangomalsa Right, but does it have the same value?

@PerryCodes

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardcullen1739 Depends on the organization - but for most, not even close. Especially further on down the road when you're going up for promotions against those with a Bachelors or Masters Degree. Full disclosure: I'm going on year 27 as a profesional developer with no degree.

@edwardcullen1739

2 жыл бұрын

@@PerryCodes Yep, this is my concern. I've NEVER been a "degree snob", until my last engagement. Working with people who are predominantly self-taught has really opened my eyes - I'm now doing more infrastructure-focused DevOps / platform engineering, whereas previously, I was in more of a build/developer support role, where the degree ratios were MUCH higher! It's made me realise just how much one learns from a (good) degree. It was actually saddening/frustrating, because the guys in my team were all smart and hard-working, but lacked education. (Let's just say I wouldn't necessarily want to go head-to-head on a test of raw intelligence! Qualifications != proof of intelligence ☺️) Most importantly, they didn't understand how to organise their knowledge. I think this is, in part, due to the tendency for private business to no longer take responsibility for training staff (at least in the UK). I think the other side is that the nature of IT had changed dramatically - the complexity is exploding, the knowledge/skill requirements are undergoing step-changes, rather then the far more gradual change of the back-end of the millennium. That last part is important - there are plenty of self-taught people with 10-20 years on me who are at the top and successful - Uncle Bob, for example - but this is a reflection of the state of things THEN; "nobody" knew anything, so the requirements/demands/expectations were different. Now that ANYBODY can sign-up for Azure for free and spin-up a VM in about 10 minutes (including the sign-up process!) they think "everything should be that easy" and "why can't WE be like this?" If you want to do even an entry-level job and you don't know how to do even *some* automation - some programming - and have a *solid* understanding of basics, like DNS, x.509 and basic firewalls, you're stuffed; it's going to take you ages and if you got it to work, you're almost certainly going to do something fundamentally insecure. To be clear, I'm degree-educated, experienced and *smart* (though, there are many who are smarter...) yet I find myself struggling to handle the complexity at times! I think the value - and objective - in a "boot camp" is - should be - in helping people to quickly determine whether professional software development is the right thing for them; it's a life-long vocation (I'm still learning and am getting to that point where I need to go back and re-learn stuff because the little grey cells aren't as young as they were...) and it isn't for everyone; you *need* a real passion and aptitude for it in order to be truly successful. Since starting to look into the subject/business, I'm hearing some real horror stories - "you will have nightmares" are words that should NEVER pass *any* educators lips; you DO NOT LEARN EFFECTIVELY WHEN STRESSED. This is basic, basic psychology. Nobody who completes a course should be angry/resentful of the way the course made them feel/how they were treated. This is already a LOT longer than I was expecting, so I'll stop here, with one final thought: this industry smells worse than a GOTO infested monolithic application that riddled with embedded SQL! Full disclosure: I'm a little behind you in the experience stakes. 😉

@ivanmvh

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardcullen1739 The same horror stuff that you says of bootcamps occurs in degrees careers all depends of your vision, strengths and weakness. I see you in a bootcamp!

"Rake it till you make it" lol.

Le Wagon has a decent reputation from what I can remember. The Bootcamp I went to was scum. They tried to pull an upsell scam on me without asking, lied about the program, the teaching was embarrassing... if the instructors even bothered to show up they certainly had no plan. This so far just feels like a dramatization of "learning is hard." Not really a look at the reality of most bootcamps.

very emotional but that lady singing , my ears }:

Google is my flashcard

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

We should put this on a t-shirt 💥

i just following w3schools concepts topics from top to bottom.

Cool! Our whole channel is dedicated to bootcamps. Check it out! 😉

I don't buy it. I'd rather have a secure stress-free zone to grow instead of this, i believe this is just out of reality and is pure entertainment for corporations. If you want to learn, you better love it and have it related with a good thing. I learned programming at age of 13 creating shapes and having fun with scripts on the command line. Creative programming is a good and fun way to learn. This looks like a military base to me and you have to pay haha. Is sad how this programs take advantage of people needs and dreams. Savage mode!

@xjuhox

2 жыл бұрын

You pay to drink water from a fire hydrant...

@stpedro-ht9ng

2 жыл бұрын

A learning structure like this would not be good for fueling a genuine passion in programming.

@ivanmvh

2 жыл бұрын

Not all people have the same luck that you, many people needs a quicky change is theirs lives because they need to pay theis bill , their food. They can´t wait for death and reborn as a rich child.

@ivanmag646

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what i am talking about, companies taking advantage of this need. There are other ways of learning without suffering. And if you only come to this career to pay the bills, believe me...be ready for your worst nightmare. I am sorry you are frustrated and think that you have to be rich to learn things.

@ivanmag646

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivanmvh You can learn things for free and having fun, i will be happy to help :) just because we have the same name. Are you me from the future? Oh man i lost my handsomeness.

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Kya yaar phir se vohi

"You will have nightmares." Well, that's not a good sign - if you're *that* stressed, you are NOT going to learn effectively! Also, Ruby is a dead language; a walking corpse. Literally the only place it's still used of any commercial significance is in Puppet. 6:36 in and I'm not hopeful...

@lorandhorvath4466

2 жыл бұрын

So Shopify doesn't have any commercial significance? Well, what planet are you living on?

@v0nnyboy

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly !!

This is forced stuff, you won't really learn properly in such a hurry. Why the hurry? Are they trying to get people to hate programming? Nah... not buying it, I can learn on my own.

@diceymaan

2 жыл бұрын

The brain has an amazing capacity to pick up information. They won't be able to learn and digest everything from the 9 weeks, but the brain picks up things in store and it will be handy later on when they have task on hand. And a lot of codes overlap and there will be plenty of repetition to learn the most important foundation.

I am in Ironhack atm almost done with our final project , it has been crazy lol I have had too many days where I doubted myself but things are starting to make sense ;D I am excited for my new career.

@Honeypotio

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your new career, Mr Spicy Hamster! 😎

@latinstuff1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Honeypotio