CNC Surface Mapping... ON EARTH!

Ғылым және технология

ADVENTURES! in surface height mapping and CNC.
I think this is sometimes called surface digitizing, but I can see this coming in real handy for non-critical machining work such as engraving, perhaps.
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  • @fastx1914
    @fastx19142 жыл бұрын

    Finally! Someone has figured out a way to use the warped wood being sold at Home Depot!

  • @150flyer4

    @150flyer4

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they’re sold out of that as well. I wonder if warped wood sits in a shipping container for months on end, comes out straight??

  • @PsiQ

    @PsiQ

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...It's not warped, it has a surface map integrated, it's a feature !

  • @assassinlexx1993

    @assassinlexx1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    You still need a loan officer approval to buy more then one 2x4 .

  • @joejoemyo

    @joejoemyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    This one got me. LOL!

  • @Xenronnify

    @Xenronnify

    2 жыл бұрын

    That made me laugh way harder than it should've 🤣🤣

  • @DavidGuyton
    @DavidGuyton2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't see a single wizard in this video. Not even an elf.

  • @eddiezebeast

    @eddiezebeast

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's hidden inside the Maho

  • @jamesmarks8099

    @jamesmarks8099

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found a troll though!! 😂😂

  • @DavidGuyton

    @DavidGuyton

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesmarks8099 haha

  • @gildedbear5355

    @gildedbear5355

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, of course not. This Old Tony never shows his face.

  • @jutde

    @jutde

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gildedbear5355 except for that one time. But we don't talk about that.

  • @richardwhitfield1078
    @richardwhitfield10782 жыл бұрын

    Hammerhead. Best delayed laugh I've had in while. Took a couple of secs to sink in.

  • @mymechanics
    @mymechanics2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video as always!

  • @djamelhamdia134

    @djamelhamdia134

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello there!

  • @JamesLee-sw6ss

    @JamesLee-sw6ss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tony’s video is great, however, I’m gonna need you to make new one :)

  • @koronakorona1588

    @koronakorona1588

    2 жыл бұрын

    we are waiting on yours videos too🙂

  • @Dysiode

    @Dysiode

    2 жыл бұрын

    Always love to see the youtube makers coming together to chat in the comments of each other's videos :)

  • @MrGofarkyself

    @MrGofarkyself

    2 жыл бұрын

    I watched the videos too many times…. I make a new one.

  • @johnnyryall1400
    @johnnyryall14002 жыл бұрын

    As a 30+ yr commercial painting contractor, I couldn’t be less concerned about CNC surface mapping..... I’m still gonna watch this whole video.... more than once.

  • @godspi4609

    @godspi4609

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same..I'm in scaffolding and I have no business near a CNC...but like you said here all the same

  • @billstrahan4791

    @billstrahan4791

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course! Other videos you ask "Does this content matter to me?" These, you ask "Does This Old Tony matter to me?" And the answer is YES. Yes he does.

  • @godspi4609

    @godspi4609

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@billstrahan4791 just can't quit em

  • @davekavanagh7599

    @davekavanagh7599

    2 жыл бұрын

    Carpenter here 🤣🤣🤣

  • @wirekat

    @wirekat

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tried to quit but couldn't

  • @Adventure_Van_Upgrades
    @Adventure_Van_Upgrades2 жыл бұрын

    So pleased to see some fresh machine work videos coming from T.O.T HQ , man we've missed you !

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 NUDE.YOUNGGIRLS.TODAY/TATSUHISHA >>>>> Ⓖⓔⓣ Excited *Heavy Sex* 💋🥰

  • @VikingAtLarge
    @VikingAtLarge2 жыл бұрын

    Tony, your idea for the map -> invert -> cut inversion -> stick together process at the end makes me think you could machine some *ridiculous* halves of geometrically complex billets for the damascus/forge-welding guys to then twist and fold. I don't know *what* geometry you'd want to stick together, yet (with a lot less work than it takes to make those 'mind-bendingly close' EDM clearances), but I'm really excited thinking about novel steel-also-steel-but-different composite structures you could make, then acid-etch (or CNC-TIG braze some aluminum bronze filler onto, too, for gold-colored parts?). I dunno, I need a few years to build the 'too small for a building permit' shop in my parents' yard and work my way up to any of that, so I'm hoping for some instant-er gratification.

  • @Arachnos27

    @Arachnos27

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see new TOT videos I click, that would be cool to see.

  • @grimmcreole44

    @grimmcreole44

    2 жыл бұрын

    the trick to get to the electronic dance music clearance sale so precisely lays in knowing what you want, and factoring in the time to pick it out just before the stock runs out

  • @birdwave

    @birdwave

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@grimmcreole44 ok I'll help with the clearance sale and you help with whatever the hell anyone else said

  • @floorpizza8074

    @floorpizza8074

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@grimmcreole44 "the trick to get to the electronic dance music clearance sale so precisely lays in knowing what you want..." That's exactly what an AI would say. Go away. It's not your time to rule the earth... yet.

  • @three6ohchris

    @three6ohchris

    2 жыл бұрын

    You lost me at "Tony," but I trust you because your name is Felix... And I think that most people named Felix are trustworthy. Right? So anyway, whatever you said, I'm really excited for. Yeah!

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade2 жыл бұрын

    I frequently do CNC circuit board engraving and have been using a similar technique for many years, but since the circuit boards are conductive and copper is relatively soft it doesn't need a special probe, instead the probing relies on the engraving bit making contact with the copper surface to form an electrical connection to let the software know the bit is touching the surface. Mapping the surface is essential for good results as the engraving depth is only 50um in order to make very fine traces. Cheers, Jake

  • @ketturi

    @ketturi

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was about to comment the same thing. Without probing and surface mapping, even slight unevenness in copper clad or in mounting would results big variations in the width of engraved tracks. This trick also works with other non-conductive materials, if you glue thin copper/aluminium tape over the surface. Just remember to connect the probe cable to the part, once I forgot to do that and CNC machine happily turned circuit board into punch card😅.

  • @tjtwig1226

    @tjtwig1226

    2 жыл бұрын

    Holy mackerel!

  • @Hunter271828

    @Hunter271828

    2 жыл бұрын

    @TheStuffMade, I used your videos to learn how to do PCB engraving! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this TOT video.

  • @TheStuffMade

    @TheStuffMade

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hunter271828 Always good to hear the videos were useful. Cheers, Jake

  • @RG-bd5qt
    @RG-bd5qt2 жыл бұрын

    At first I thought he was using a clapper, but then I realized he’s working on a flamenco interface. Soon he’ll be able to write g code with nothing but castanets and a pair of tap shoes.

  • @edwardhugus2772

    @edwardhugus2772

    2 жыл бұрын

    @RG • 51 Would a long line of G Code be called a G String? I can hear the copyright lawyers screaming already......

  • @wtfiswiththosehandles

    @wtfiswiththosehandles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardhugus2772 I dunno, but each of these probed points are probably called G Spots.

  • @MikelNaUsaCom

    @MikelNaUsaCom

    2 жыл бұрын

    careful there, we don't want to get into string theory... =D

  • @edwardhugus2772

    @edwardhugus2772

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wtfiswiththosehandles and, yes they would be. 🤗

  • @edwardhugus2772

    @edwardhugus2772

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MikelNaUsaCom I'm afraid it's a bit too late now... that horse has already left the barn.

  • @Bbeaucha88
    @Bbeaucha882 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone else wonder if This Old Tony was ever That Young Anthony? My leading theory is that he fell out of a tree fully grown asking people if they wanted to hear him talk about his CNC router. Like a dwarf from LoTR.

  • @TrevorDennis100

    @TrevorDennis100

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was he also born with those stumpy finger nails? I've always wondered about those. Is he a black belt karate expert who uses those fingers as deadly weapons, for instance. Does he nibble away at his finger nails while worrying what to put in his next video? I think we should be told.

  • @OvertravelX

    @OvertravelX

    2 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t seen Anthony Michael Hall in a while…

  • @AMRosa10

    @AMRosa10

    2 жыл бұрын

    TOT actually broke the Spacetime Continuum. What you were unaware of is that the person that appears in these videos as TOTs son in this multiverse is actually TYT trapped in this dimension.

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    2 жыл бұрын

    Judging from those hairy knuckles he's actually a hobbit.

  • @headcheesefry

    @headcheesefry

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AMRosa10 The whole "I'm my own grandpa" thing was portraid in an episode of a cartoon called Futurama. I believe the episode won an emmy.

  • @torbjornahman
    @torbjornahman2 жыл бұрын

    Coooool! Looking at the first shot of the shark I thought, wait a minute that is not a flat surface... Next - mapping surfaces with laser scanning!

  • @tjtwig1226

    @tjtwig1226

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you in the comments. You're videos rock Torbjörn.

  • @cameronflack2254

    @cameronflack2254

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, i was trying to figure out if he just set the cut depth more shallow over the higher surface. Im glad i know the truth now, but wizardy is cool too

  • @Kruglord

    @Kruglord

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've had the same thought! A properly calibrated triangulation laser scanner could scan the whole surface is seconds, and very reasonably get sub-mm precision. If you used an time-of-flight setup, you'd probably be able to get nano-meter precision, but that would get very expensive, haha

  • @peterw1534
    @peterw15342 жыл бұрын

    "I was walking backwards real slow and everything, even staring at it the whole time, I couldn't have been more cautious" LOL been there before. Especially the slowly walking backwards while staring at it and blindly groping behind you for a tool or whatever. As SOON as you're too far away to save it, or look away for a sec, it drops. No matter what. Gotta love that!

  • @martinfisker7438
    @martinfisker74382 жыл бұрын

    Myths say that every time you skip a ToT video, an innocent thread tap breaks

  • @scottsolar5884

    @scottsolar5884

    2 жыл бұрын

    The legend is real.

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 NUDE.YOUNGGIRLS.TODAY/TATSUHISHA >>>>> Ⓖⓔⓣ Excited *Heavy Sex* 💋🥰

  • @nerfherder4284

    @nerfherder4284

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, we can't have that!

  • @daveys

    @daveys

    2 жыл бұрын

    It may or may not be true, but I don’t dare to try and find out.

  • @Self_Evident

    @Self_Evident

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, every time you even _think_ of a tap, an innocent tap breaks, and you just lost the tap game...

  • @ukp42
    @ukp422 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing, just about to have my dinner, here in Scotland. Something to watch, and eat my curried haggis supper. So I'll say, great video 5* before watch it in a minute and expect to be entertained.

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 NUDE.YOUNGGIRLS.TODAY/TATSUHISHA >>>>> Ⓖⓔⓣ Excited *Heavy Sex* 💋🥰

  • @snarknado6430

    @snarknado6430

    2 жыл бұрын

    You only did this for top comment, ya shill. Also if you really are a scot, why such good English?

  • @angrydwarfjewellery255

    @angrydwarfjewellery255

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same , jus London location

  • @Tuonico87

    @Tuonico87

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same but italy

  • @grumpyone5963

    @grumpyone5963

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stole my comment. Who doesn’t like a great TOT video over dinner. Such interesting content. 🇬🇧

  • @masterofnone
    @masterofnone2 жыл бұрын

    How can I be so sure I will never use this in my life time but still enjoy this video more than any other commercial content created during last 30 years? Happy new year TOT!

  • @Whytho2000
    @Whytho20002 жыл бұрын

    This is so cool! As an engineer, I was able to do a similar thing in my job. I took a 3D model of a computer board, and took the surface heights of all the components to make a negative, with over sized holes. That negative would contact all the parts of the board while avoiding the delicate components. Then you can put weights on top of the board to ensure the board is contacting the entire surface when gluing to a heat sink.

  • @grimki11er
    @grimki11er2 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say when my favorite youtubers put something new, I rarely watch it immediately. ThisoldTony is the exception! great content and very entertaining. Also I started 3d printing recently and I have to say that Tony actually helped me in unconventional ways. You helped me developed my designing mind and helped me approach certain issues in a new often easier way. so thanks! and keep up the good work!

  • @gabewhisen3446

    @gabewhisen3446

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow he actually liked a comment that was not from a collab account cudos grim you have the silver keyboard

  • @grimki11er

    @grimki11er

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gabewhisen3446 hahah thanks! I spoke from the heart! I actually suffered 3 big losses this year like Tony and i know encouragements like this help eliviate the pain a little.

  • @JacobProbasco

    @JacobProbasco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. ThisOldTony is like a Christmas chocolate. Rich, velvety, and gone too soon!

  • @Gigator

    @Gigator

    2 жыл бұрын

    I 100% concur with your first sentence. ToT is the only "bell" I have activated, because with him I want to watch the video as soon as possible. Others, even some of my oldest and dearest channels, I can wait a few days until I have some breathing room to enjoy the video at my own pace. But with ToT, I know I will watch it a second and third time to really let the humor and information sink in deep. I think I've watched half his videos three times, a quarter even more and many I'm only partially interested at least one or twice.

  • @jima1135
    @jima11352 жыл бұрын

    I can't begin to explain how excited I am to be notified you just uploaded! Thank you!!

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @_P0tat07_
    @_P0tat07_2 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I don’t mind at all if Tony pumps out a few wood videos. I’ll watch em all!

  • @andersjjensen

    @andersjjensen

    2 жыл бұрын

    If he takes up crocheting I'll still watch. I don't give a rat's ass about what he does... as long as he narrates it! :P

  • @humphreybumblecuck5151

    @humphreybumblecuck5151

    2 жыл бұрын

    His machinist friends will nutcheck him

  • @SianaGearz

    @SianaGearz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wood watch them as well.

  • @pompeymonkey3271
    @pompeymonkey32712 жыл бұрын

    We do this in astrophotography too. :) The calibration is done using "flat frames" that capture the non-even illumination of the field due to optical limitations.

  • @lwizzit

    @lwizzit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, or the appropriately named ‘bias frames’. Where do you stand on darks?

  • @w4shep

    @w4shep

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds really cool and pretty easy. I mean, it's not rocket science... um… never mind.

  • @ewaldauer395

    @ewaldauer395

    2 жыл бұрын

    We do this in microscopy too! You want to generate a mosaic image of high-res images of a larger sample, and all have them in focus, even if the specimen holder, the specimen itself and the coverslip aren't flat? Surface mapping ftw!

  • @pompeymonkey3271

    @pompeymonkey3271

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lwizzit Bias and darks are more about system noise than contour mapping, so I deliberately stated flats. Darks are essential for correcting hot or cold pixels, while bias is more about finding the pedestal (or "DC" component, if you like) of the read out values. I'm just about to change from a CCD to a CMOS sensor, so I guess I'll be challenging my own mindset on those! ...

  • @austin5060
    @austin50602 жыл бұрын

    15 minute break at the factory and a 14 minute video. Perfect!

  • @PatrickKQ4HBD

    @PatrickKQ4HBD

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Hey Raul, get back on the line! And what are you grinning about?" 😂

  • @TheMNWolf
    @TheMNWolf2 жыл бұрын

    Some 3D printers have this technology too. Both of mine probe the surface of the print bed before they start. One uses an induction sensor and one uses a physical probe. They're also set up to zero out the surface as the print height increases.

  • @ErrorTH

    @ErrorTH

    2 жыл бұрын

    i did want to mod my printer (ultimaker spinoff) into probe scanner but had very hard time finding good guides on it

  • @eideticex

    @eideticex

    2 жыл бұрын

    I use manual mapping on mine. Initially I used manual mesh mapping, which is a measure the points then your good to go... until you clean your machine or nudge it and change the geometry in subtle ways we can't even see with our human eyes. Moved on to billinear mesh leveling which allows me to specify a z-offset and tilt to adjust it when things change. Pro-tip do not use a 10x10 grid, that's 100 points you will have to measure multiple times to get it honed in, stick to something more sane like a 3x3 unless you really need that level of accuracy.

  • @tolga1cool

    @tolga1cool

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean Bltouch?

  • @Icefumy

    @Icefumy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ErrorTH Best way would be buying the antclabs bltouch, and making your own custom firmware using marlin or something, if you can code a little.

  • @Sembazuru

    @Sembazuru

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was going to mention that until I saw your post, so I'll just expand on it here. ;-) In the 3D printing community this technique is normally called "mesh bed leveling". There are various methods of probing the bed surface. All current Prusa printers and some others use inductive sensing to find a metal underlayer of the print surface (and thus require a z-level offset to account for the thickness of any surface layers/treatments on the metal). Others use a BL Touch (or similar) mechanical probe. And the newly announced, but not available yet, Prusa XL printer uses a strain gauge in the hot-end assembly to touch the surface with the nozzle to probe (there may be other printers that do this, but I'm unaware of them). Several of the 3D printer firmware families (I know Marlin does, I suspect Klipper does but don't know for sure, not sure about the other firmware families) have the mesh leveling built in and use gcodes like G29 or G80 to initiate the probing routine. Often the way the 3D printer firmware applies the surface probing is they use the full value of the mesh to the first layer, and slowly over the next few layers decrease the effect of the surface mesh z adjustment until it isn't applied anymore.

  • @syskonenS
    @syskonenS2 жыл бұрын

    Checking what year it is was perfect! The fact that we're two weeks away from 2022 when it still feels like 2019 boggles the mind! p.s. I definitely wouldn't be against another christmas story episode :) one of my favourites.

  • @K3NnY_G
    @K3NnY_G2 жыл бұрын

    I missed thig man so much... Genuinely glad to have fresh content coming across my feed again. Thanks for all the work you do Tony, hope getting everything re-arranged wasn't too much a headache.

  • @JordyValentine
    @JordyValentine2 жыл бұрын

    These always impress me watching them lightly move around, I feel like if I wrote the code it would just slam full speed into the work piece

  • @maxmendel7411
    @maxmendel74112 жыл бұрын

    This is just like auto-bed leveling on a 3d printer. Awesome stuff Tony!

  • @1Barrel2u
    @1Barrel2u2 жыл бұрын

    I have to say that your stories (video's) are always fun as well as very fully packed with good information. Thank you for helping me to enjoy life.

  • @sethg6157
    @sethg61572 жыл бұрын

    So happy to see you around again. Just the perfect Christmas gift!

  • @ALTheFoxBlackthorn
    @ALTheFoxBlackthorn2 жыл бұрын

    This video was perfect for me. I have been curious about how to do this for awhile (surface mapping) to engrave some components. I just didn't know where to start looking to get more info. Now armed with the correct terminology I can find out more. Plus I was dying when you said "It turns out I'm the reason I can't have nice things" Hope that probe tip replacement works out and thanks for another awesome video. It always brightens my day when I see a new video pop up in the notifications.

  • @johnlawler1626
    @johnlawler16262 жыл бұрын

    28 years machining and I never knew this was possible, Great Video thanks for sharing mate 👍

  • @danielnorman8595
    @danielnorman85952 жыл бұрын

    Happy to watch, thanks for producing another video. we appreciate you

  • @zanderchiasson8064
    @zanderchiasson80642 жыл бұрын

    So glad youre back!! Loving having your videos again!

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero51702 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for someone to explain this to me in a way I can partially understand and nod my head like I know what you are talking about.... Thanks a lot ToT, I'm so much smarter than I was before I watched this video.

  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo2 жыл бұрын

    Love this surface mapping! With each video of yours, I feel I'm being pulled closer and closer towards CNC.. ..not the same, but I'm still dreaming to implement a good solution for non-planar 3D Printing, using 3 axis... 😌

  • @chaos.corner

    @chaos.corner

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's a video or two out there with non-planar 3d printing. You'll always be constrained by head geometry. What are you thinking you'd like to do?

  • @markkalsbeek5883

    @markkalsbeek5883

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chaos.corner make the head swivel over 2 axis :p

  • @al4x5

    @al4x5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markkalsbeek5883 That would be 5 axis then

  • @JNCressey

    @JNCressey

    2 жыл бұрын

    here's an idea: imagine a bubblegram, but the medium can fall away, and the "bubbles" become solid like a sintering 3d printer.

  • @brianrydzeski6108
    @brianrydzeski61082 жыл бұрын

    Ho-Ho-Ho. Merry Christmas, Tony. All my best to you and yours. Thank you for all the video gifts over the past year.

  • @kevinm594
    @kevinm5942 жыл бұрын

    I've been re-watching a your old videos just to get my TOT fix. So happy you're back :)

  • @pole120
    @pole1202 жыл бұрын

    I'm so pleased to have you back lately. Thank you for your videos, they are always top notch.

  • @windyhillfoundry5940
    @windyhillfoundry59402 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see cmm scan technology applied to cnc now. Now if my customers who send me one half of a broken casting would get this my world would greatly improve. They could scan the actual half, increase for shrinkage and invert for the missing side to send a solid complete pattern

  • @boiclyde
    @boiclyde2 жыл бұрын

    I love your CNC vids. It's what brought me to your channel and I stayed for the content.

  • @leopardontheprowl
    @leopardontheprowl2 жыл бұрын

    I like the wood projects. I like the variety you provide.

  • @slartythecyclops4643
    @slartythecyclops46432 жыл бұрын

    TOT the Bob Ross of material shaping (mainly metal), humourous yet informative & very relaxing! (happy accident? Who knows) Just know I missed him while he was off air & really glad he's back :-)

  • @beartastic-ftw
    @beartastic-ftw2 жыл бұрын

    tried this on super janky chinese router to do pcb milling ages ago - weirdly accurate! thanks for another great video!

  • @goldenpiston8449
    @goldenpiston84492 жыл бұрын

    Woah! Another this old tony video! It must be my lucky day. Thanks so much for the awesome videos, they are always so much fun to watch. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @bdailey1878
    @bdailey18782 жыл бұрын

    So good to have you back TOT. Hope all is well or healing with you and yours.

  • @fabianherrera5427
    @fabianherrera5427 Жыл бұрын

    love wood videos wish you would do more woodworking tbh .. its really cool to see a machinists perspective to woodworking

  • @sebastiengomez3855
    @sebastiengomez38552 жыл бұрын

    I use a manual method of this on the cnc at work. we have some dodgy plastic that comes in sheets of 2440mm x 1220mm and i machine both sides to make tops and bottoms for speaker cabinets. this plastic is recycled and has a surface that fluctuates up and down up to 3mm, nightmare to get countersinks to be flush with the surface, so, i probe (this probe can only do z check) every location i have to put a countersink in. what i do is every time the probe touches off i pass the z value to a variable, my machine they are E### and just increment the number by 1 for every new location, then when i go to countersink i just call the offset for that location. The software i use doesnt have the ability to do surface mapping, the machine is 30 years old. and this was the only way i could do it efficiently and fast. the machine has a cassette drive and floppy disk lol. Wish i could use fusion and mach. Im trying to blag my boss to give me and the team fusion, and he said yes but hes dragging his feet on it lol. As for mach i dont think we can convert the machines OS. its too old. Thanks for the excellent vid as always. love you T.O.T.

  • @monad_tcp

    @monad_tcp

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, inverse perspective transformation would be hard to do without a PDP11 to do the complex multiplications used in linear algebra (lots of matrices), you couldn't do the derivative analogically (unless you wanted to build a Babbage's analytical engine yourself). better stick with modern digital electronics. I don't understand any of this about gcode, but I do understand the mathematics because I write computing graphics software for 3D point cloud reconstruction. its just a world matrix transformation of the gcode points into the surface mapped, we are literally warping the world space.

  • @monad_tcp

    @monad_tcp

    2 жыл бұрын

    you are basically doing a lerp, a linear interpolation of the 2 points (current, aka offset, and the recovered), that kinda works. nice trick.

  • @sebastiengomez3855

    @sebastiengomez3855

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​ @Luiz Felipe thats really interesting, i didnt think of it as a matrix. did a bit of stuff on matrices at uni when i was studying computer games software development. thanks for that inciteful reply

  • @LarrysMachineShop
    @LarrysMachineShop2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed , So happy Tony is back, We all missed you man! Awesome Video !!!

  • @yobentley7274
    @yobentley72742 жыл бұрын

    Way over my head, but I still enjoy watching. Thanks Tony,

  • @Chef_PC
    @Chef_PC2 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap, I haven’t been this excited to click on a notification in a long time.

  • @JamesLee-sw6ss
    @JamesLee-sw6ss2 жыл бұрын

    So now the question, can you then export your surface map from Mach 4 into solid works, so now you have a 3D scanner? :)

  • @SianaGearz

    @SianaGearz

    2 жыл бұрын

    The surface map file that it outputs is pretty much CSV format, as far as i can gather, very easy to parse. I could whip up a tool to convert it to a mesh really quickly if someone gave me an authoritative example file.

  • @JouanOne
    @JouanOne2 жыл бұрын

    So glad you are back in action TOT. Missed you a bunch!

  • @JoshuaNicoll
    @JoshuaNicoll2 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear lord I forgot how fun it was seeing a new TOT video and taking a break from what I'm doing to watch it, man we missed you. It's good to be back on speaking grounds Tony

  • @GumbootsOnBackwards
    @GumbootsOnBackwards2 жыл бұрын

    I love you, Dad.

  • @FoxtwoPC
    @FoxtwoPC2 жыл бұрын

    As an engineer/physicist new to CNC and basically unaware of precision and leveling I fixed all my alignment problems with a 3D printed a version of the Raith? I think? multi-axis probe...That tool with a raspberry pi + 1000+ lines of code (in bash script bc python is the worst) to map, analyze and change gcode, and drive my machine basically gave me the ability to make features with 100ish micron precision/repeatability in acrylic/PC...Then I got a resin printer and my mill has been gathering dust...Again ToT hits on a subject so close to my heart :)

  • @carveroutdoors
    @carveroutdoors2 жыл бұрын

    Always cool to have some new ideas to approach my old man. Thanks Tony!

  • @Rosscrymble1
    @Rosscrymble12 жыл бұрын

    Great to have you back Tony, happy Christmas and keep up the fantastic video's

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei42522 жыл бұрын

    Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family, Tony. Here's to a way better 2022! [edit] That hammer head joke! There are baby hammerheads everywhere hammering on the boat of the guy that should have bought a bigger boat because of that joke.

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 NUDE.YOUNGGIRLS.TODAY/TATSUHISHA >>>>> Ⓖⓔⓣ Excited *Heavy Sex* 💋🥰

  • @timbeard871

    @timbeard871

    2 жыл бұрын

    OMG! I just got the hammerhead joke. More caffeine.

  • @drivenba
    @drivenba2 жыл бұрын

    This principal would be awesome to use for something like a low-cost router build where big machinery/expensive operations aren't available (like flattening the gantry face on TOT's first router build). Spend some time with an indicator manually creating your own surface map of the tubing installed/loaded and have the software make it perfectly flat for you.

  • @bretonkyle

    @bretonkyle

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is basically how auto-leveling 3d print beds work. It probes the bed and applies that mesh to the gcode to move in parallel to it.

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comedic pause after the hammerhead shark. I didn’t need the time to get it, but was able to enjoy it longer!

  • @cygnet1963
    @cygnet19632 жыл бұрын

    Might be nothing new to some people but I didn’t know about it and now I do! Thanks Tony! My favorite you tube channel. Your videos are great. So glad your back!

  • @JETHO321
    @JETHO3212 жыл бұрын

    I'm a gunsmith, all manual machining. I dont even know how to turn on a cnc machine but still love these videos just because it's TOT.

  • @karatos

    @karatos

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, same here. I have run CNC machines in the past but I am mostly stuck with manual machines without even DRO. Still pretty pleased with stuff we can turn out though. I machined a custom railed PCC receiver a few years back, it had about a foot of 1913 rail on top. I cut every single one on the wheels. Jog .375, cross, jog .019, return, jog .375, cross, jog .019, return, for 31 individual slots. Came out clean and to spec.

  • @JETHO321

    @JETHO321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@karatos I don't have the luxury of a dro on either of my two lathes or my mill. But I damn sure set indicators all over lol.

  • @Goondonkofficial
    @Goondonkofficial2 жыл бұрын

    Never considered this, pretty cool to see how it works. -future mechanical engineer

  • @isaactrockman4417

    @isaactrockman4417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same same

  • @mousethefoo1230
    @mousethefoo12302 жыл бұрын

    This was dope Old Tony, Glad to have you back!

  • @erickerickson7665
    @erickerickson76652 жыл бұрын

    I literally gasped when I saw that you just uploaded. Thanks TOT for creating excellent videos

  • @lambofwrath95
    @lambofwrath952 жыл бұрын

    I nearly rolled my eyes when you explained the intro engraving. Not gunna lie, I loved that joke, and would totally do that to my hammers if I was able to God I love the dad jokes!

  • @nbprotocol5406
    @nbprotocol54062 жыл бұрын

    Use the tool itself as a stop. command it to the position you want and stop the block against it.

  • @noahrichardson4046
    @noahrichardson40462 жыл бұрын

    I can not express just how ecstatic I am that there are new This Old Tony videos. I'm an electrical/electronics guy and the closest I come to machining work is my current project of rebuilding my grandfather's Dayton drill press from 1984. Good square work man!

  • @andreasfrohler7560
    @andreasfrohler75602 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you are back in the zone. Making great content.

  • @guytech7310
    @guytech73102 жыл бұрын

    ToT: Which wizard did you use for the surface mapping? Was it Gandolf, Merlin, Dumbledore? How how did you summon the wizard? --Thanks!

  • @TrevorDennis100
    @TrevorDennis1002 жыл бұрын

    I am wondering why the engraved letters appear to have such perfectly square corners when the tool used is round. If you look at the ends of the horizontal bars of the letter E @3:40 the ends are sharply defined and squared. It also looks like the tool depth was enough to make the full width of the characters in one pass. That is not making sense to me.

  • @joshwillis1726

    @joshwillis1726

    2 жыл бұрын

    The v-shape of the tool is used at different depths to essentially get different radii in the corners. You can see as it cuts that the tool is moving up and down more than the height map would require so that it can engage different amounts of the tool. Close to the edges of the letters the tool raises up until basically none of the tool is engaged. Engraving bits can't make flat bottoms while retaining that tight radius, so if you needed the engraving to have a flat bottom for whatever reason you would have to use an endmill with an acceptable radius for the corners. Most likely you would end up with a much less rigid tool that way, and it would have to cut much more slowly or you would need tool changes.

  • @TrevorDennis100

    @TrevorDennis100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshwillis1726 Goodness! Yes I can see how that works, and it is very cool. CNC of some sort is something I'd like to have in my (mainly wood) shop, but I have not been sure how much I would use it. It's that sort of added value you described that makes it a lot more interesting.

  • @davidb6576

    @davidb6576

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious about this too. Josh's explanation makes sense if there's multiple passes, including extra cutting at each sharp vertex, but we just see a single, continuous motion. A truly sophisticated servomotor spindle and CNC control could "map" where the cutting edge of the tool is, and scrape that tool edge into and out of a corner to get this effect in a soft material, but that's not the case here.

  • @madhatte73
    @madhatte732 жыл бұрын

    This may have been the most useful video you've done so far, at least for my purposes. Thank you!

  • @natewertz7428
    @natewertz74282 жыл бұрын

    Great content as always, ToT! Good to have you back.

  • @redKnight1992
    @redKnight19922 жыл бұрын

    can you still *do* the introductory ted talk, eventually? :)

  • @sheriina1925

    @sheriina1925

    2 жыл бұрын

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 NUDE.YOUNGGIRLS.TODAY/TATSUHISHA >>>>> Ⓖⓔⓣ Excited *Heavy Sex* 💋🥰

  • @stevensexton5801

    @stevensexton5801

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL, I'd to see that one too. "How I became This Old Tony", would start out with him crawling on the floor picking up metal chips and eating them.

  • @MrKotBonifacy

    @MrKotBonifacy

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did, methinks... at his 100K subs video... : ) Time flies when you're having fun, eh?

  • @redKnight1992

    @redKnight1992

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrKotBonifacy I literally just watched this video when I got the notification for this one :) Personally, I‘d love to see a feature film length video of ToT just rambling about… Let’s see what the 1M sub special will eventually look like!

  • @zeDoSauRus
    @zeDoSauRus Жыл бұрын

    never thought of this! will surely use it. thanks Tony!

  • @ChimeraActual
    @ChimeraActual2 жыл бұрын

    When I first saw your tittle I wondered how you would integrate lidar with CNC, or the other way around... So enjoyable watching your vids!

  • @ChadOHara98
    @ChadOHara982 жыл бұрын

    Just finished a final this morning for advanced engineering analysis. This video lifted my spirits.

  • @nat7278
    @nat72782 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back Tony

  • @banger-fn6du
    @banger-fn6du2 жыл бұрын

    thank you for your content. you are by far my favorite creator of content, and by that ...I mean content creator

  • @noahlopez4819
    @noahlopez48192 жыл бұрын

    Tony, I love your work! That engraved block was beautiful. Your Etsy store must be blowing up!

  • @grottyboots
    @grottyboots2 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! It's amazing to see what can be done with modern hobbyist-level CNCs. I did similar "map the surface" projects using Fanuc CNCs and Renishaw probes. The most complex mapped large pipes (up to 20m [787"], 2m diameter) so we could machine features accurately. 2-3 hours of probleing, hundreds of data points, all done in Fanuc macro language and PLC. My best probe story... a careless operator cracked the glass body on a TS-27R probe. Still worked, accuracy wasn't noticeably affected, with a replacement probe a few weeks delivery. But the humidity (this was in India) would seep inside the body, condense on the inside surface of the glass, and could eventually cause problems with the electronics. So I had someone provide a condom; poked a hole in the tip, rolled that sucker on, problem solved! We used that probe for at least 6 months, replacing it every few weeks as required. I tell this story anytime I see a probing videos. So this may be a repeat. Cheers!

  • @physicsguybrian
    @physicsguybrian2 жыл бұрын

    "someone smarter than me..." I love your humility Tony but Sir...you are one sharp cat! Great video! TY!

  • @bladerunner757
    @bladerunner7572 жыл бұрын

    In bed recovering from a surgery this morning and was so happy to see a new TOT video when I woke up!

  • @senorjp21
    @senorjp212 жыл бұрын

    Yo, Ton. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Just wanted to say I think it's great you put things on ice while you focused on your family. Respect

  • @dz1sfb
    @dz1sfb2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks This Old Tony. I saw hammer handle checkering video before this one and was intrigued by the surface mapping and wanted to know more about how that was done. Low and behold, I find your previous video and the answer to my question. Tool cool!

  • @SteveBrecht
    @SteveBrecht2 жыл бұрын

    Blue Probe... drove one of those for many years and loved that car into a rusty forlorn high mileage heap. Was moved a little to see one immortalized into your video. Excuse me while I go wipe away some fond memory sniffles.

  • @Nwtesla
    @Nwtesla2 жыл бұрын

    Man I laughed so much with the last emoji face XD. I'm so happy to have you back!!!! Nice video as always! Best from Spain.

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound2 жыл бұрын

    Mapping is Awesome. So easy for the machine, once it "learns". Cool!

  • @adamadamson848
    @adamadamson8482 жыл бұрын

    14 minutes of my life I don't really mind losing. I have no idea what you did Tony, but you did it well.

  • @FullSendPrecision
    @FullSendPrecision2 жыл бұрын

    Never used a CNC but I've always wondered about this! Thanks TOT! I wear your shirt with pride!

  • @jamesjennings4668
    @jamesjennings46682 жыл бұрын

    Always glad to see new clips

  • @whoami1248
    @whoami12482 жыл бұрын

    He really got me with his first one... I was expecting him to machine borders of a country on to that hammer and calling it surface mapping. But the actual thing was even better, thumbs up for that.

  • @KabonkNo1
    @KabonkNo12 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the examples at the end. Thanks!

  • @andrewboyd9371
    @andrewboyd93712 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see you're putting up content again. I like your stuff.

  • @francoishirigoyen1925
    @francoishirigoyen19252 жыл бұрын

    Not only are we all willing to map our surfaces, the guy demonstrates the process while being more and more good looking. I see melting hearts everywhere now

  • @GBWM_CNC
    @GBWM_CNC2 жыл бұрын

    That's a great video. I always enjoy your work. Keep doing, I've learned so much from you! 😁

  • @andrewgetwin
    @andrewgetwin2 жыл бұрын

    Enjoying to learn from you. Thanks 👍

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek2 жыл бұрын

    I had to watch this twice, just because it is all so cool. Thanks so much.

  • @jamesshelton308
    @jamesshelton3082 жыл бұрын

    This is something I have seen in 3D printers that allow it to work with slightly warped or unlevel print beds. I always wondered why that didn't seem to exist for cnc machining. Turns out it does! Thanks for the vid.

  • @jasondk5127
    @jasondk51272 жыл бұрын

    That was cool! 😎 Thanks Tony! Your the best.

  • @kingsleywray6632
    @kingsleywray66322 жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a mill, or a shed or any tools but I love watching you work. Vicariously I am a machinist. Lol. Thanks for sharing