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That's part of the reason, and the other is we didn't have very good batteries compared to today. Interestingly, some of the pony motors had auxiliary electric starters. One major advantage of pony motors is cold-weather. You could never start a D8 cat in -10F with an electric start (without preheat), but with a pony motor it's no problem. The exhaust from the pony goes thru the intake manifold on the big engine and the pony also warms the big engine water. Fantastic design.

An engine so momentous it infact needs another, smaller engine to start it. Epic. The name on the manifold is absolutely correct.

"That's a lot of engine to pull with a rope.." "Yeah, the 600cc engine used to start this monster is pretty hard to tug with a rope.."

This was at the Tuscarawas Valley Pioneer power show in Dover, Ohio August 2009, saw it there, Love the SOUND! I didn't see them start it up, the pony motor was built a few miles up the road from this show. Thanks for posting!

I love the sound of the small starter engine.

just got home from Dover last night, that engine is something to see

Great sounds! I always love seeing a pony engine starting up a big diesel - the changeover of exhaust notes is just so awesome. Love old Cats with pony motors, too.

@ericchevy1999

4 жыл бұрын

i always enjoyed pony motors also. i can honestly say this is the only gasoline engine with a pony motor I've ever come across.

@Jay-fb2lv

2 жыл бұрын

This is a gasoline engine, not diesel.

Starting an engine with an engine....pretty cool stuff. Learn something new every day

I love it! A V-12 with a pull starter like a lawn mower!

The gasoline powered starter motor is often referred to as a "pony motor". The older Waukesha diesels on cranes and generators used this setup. Much more compact and lightweight compared to the amount of lead-acid batteries that would otherwise be needed to crank one of these monsters, especially in the winter!

Runs clean, no smoke, NICE!

that is one amazing piece of engineering, thanks for uploading.

That engine runs pretty clean. I like it.

this is my Dad's engine, he is operating it. it is started with a smaller pony motor (Hercules, made in Canton, Ohio) to start the V-12. Was a water pump for storm sewer in Saginaw, Michigan. 6 engines in a row pumping, this is engine #6. Also, runs 50 gallons of gasoline/hour under full load. any other questions just ask, glad to answer them!

@JoseRicardo-ty5rg

9 ай бұрын

Esse motor foi fabricado em que ano?

@fricky172

9 ай бұрын

@@JoseRicardo-ty5rg We don't know for sure. My Dad says it was put into service in Saginaw, Michigan in the 1950s. Não sabemos ao certo. Meu pai diz que foi colocado em serviço em Saginaw, Michigan, na década de 1950.

i cant belive you have a four cylynder motor to start that beast haha this is the best

Ein herrliches Triebwerk! Der Startvorgang ist auch toll!

That big engine is like a grandfather.

You know you have a big engine, when you need another smaller one to start it with! I love fun facts!

The pony motor is a 4 banger, Damn!

It just sounds badass.

I seen that engine at the Maumee valley show in new Haven Indiana. Awsome to see it operating in person the very pernounced exhaust!! , I remember It belonged to a guy from Columbia city Indiana. The 4 cylnder pony engine is the same one used in the Allis Chalmers model "G" rear engine tractor .

it takes an engine to start an engine

I worked on the Waukesha Climax 2475 natural gas V-8...

The small motor is generally used on older diesels, before glow plugs, warms the cylinders with warm exhaust making it easier to start the engine.

Now thats a great engine. Slow speed and long life! I seen that engine in person at several shows.The 1,200 rpm speed makes it ideal for a large 6 pole 60 HZ generator. The pony motor is the same little engine used in the Allis Chalmers model "G" rear engine tractor......Makes a Ferrari engine look like a toy!!!

It's a British Coventry Climax engine, they also built racing engines in 4 and 8 cylinder versions for F1 in the 50s and 60s.

@garyvanrheenen181

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think this is British Climax. I think this a Climax built in Clinton, Iowa. They made large V8 and V12 stationary engines. Some of them ran on sewer gas.

Look closely to whats attached to that pully he is spinning, he is really starting a 4 cylinder pony engine.

@a.dudeman7715

9 жыл бұрын

Slade Snow Which is then used to start the main engine itself. Just in case anyone was curious.

@nojoek152

8 жыл бұрын

+Slade W. Its nice to see ricer engines used for for somthing!

@E-FC3S

8 жыл бұрын

Very true

@jaggass

8 жыл бұрын

+A. DudeMan i cant imagine the compression ratio on this

@chasp_0784

8 жыл бұрын

+michael jagger i cant imagine it being any different to a regular gas motor?

I believe I saw this little twiddler at Lanesville, she's a cutie all right. I waited around for the firing up but I don't remember the small engine. I do remember reading about it being a back up pump if the electrical one's failed. I recall it was real low on hp, 300 or so, but I imagine it did have a bit or torque. She sounds good, it'd be nice to hear her workin against a load again.

Cool... and engine to start another engine.... I like this idea.... MORE ENGINES, BIGGER ENGINES.

That one word stood out beyond them ALL... "Climax"

incredible, like totally awesome

thanks for the info, interesting engine

I love the pull string starter motor

I've seen motors this size used up in the panhandle of TX to pump irrigation water. They run pretty damn hot on natural gas. Mind you the V-12 weren't very common and used for somewhat larger applications vs. the standard chevy 305 v-8, but they were awesome to see and hear in action.

that's a beast...

Climax is a very appropriate name for that engine.

wow... so this thing has what looks like a small 4 cyl. engine (see 4 spk plugs) to start. that is pretty cool lol

six of these things running at once under full load must've been quite a sweet (and loud) sound!!

This sound will be dream in the night ^^

Many rural areas were not supplied with electricity until the late 1940s. Even those that were connected as the grid expanded frequently did not have enough electrical power to run the types of machinery necessary. Big engines like this, while not efficient by today's standards were a vast improvement over steam, and safer to boot. Most major industries and municipal services today IE sewer and water, have massive generators to keep the electric systems working in case of a power disruption.

I want that starter motor. I could build an awesome sounding gokart with that little thing.

That engine is like ROOOAAAARR when they floor it

LOL you use the little engine to start the big one. Nice.

This is ideal engine to my Mario cart!

@hitdapipe Modern starters that run on compressed air are replacing gas powered pony motors. They are simple and highly reliable (as long as the air supply is kept dry). You still need to store the compressed air somewhere or provide it from an external apparatus. The pony motor setup is completely self-contained.

thats going in my car for sure!!

To all the people wondering how you could crank the engine without a power source: engines as big as this usually have some kind of adapter at the starter sun/pinion gear which would use planetary gear reduction, to fit a socket or hand crank onto.

That looks like something that would come out of Saginaw for sure.

You are absolutely right, but I do believe there were reasons for selecting gasoline over Diesel. Diesel engines were not truly new when this engine was in service, however you were not likely to find local mechanics who were trained to repair the complex fuel injection systems of a Diesel. Most farmers (and employees) and local garages were quite familiar with gasoline systems. Diesels also require much cleaner fuel, which was serious problem for many years.

Can'ty say I've heard of that make before. Chugs away at low revs nicely.

Thumbs up for the engine being called CLIMAX

litres lol but thanks for the conversions mr Girrafe , my lady loves climaxes!!!

Yes, I know all that and it still applies to rural Alaska. My point is that diesel generators are much more practical for power generation. Gasoline in stationary and mobile applications really only has a use in light duty applications. Plus diesel is much safer when used in a stationary application since it does not have flammable vapors under normal conditions, like gasoline does.

starting an engine with a nother engine?? awesome!!!

i love it,,im guessing pull star the starter motor lolol,,very cool

Thats cool. Small engine to start the v12

It has small displacement only 3.2 litres for 12 cylinders, so it's not making very high pressure inside the cylinder, that means its easy to start.

That's the first time I've seen an engine on an engine as a starter!!! lol

This is a different one from lanesville, i thought it was the same also, but the exhaust is on the other end of the engine and the trailer is different. I compared from the pics i took a few days ago. Very cool. Did you notice that at lanesville the exhaust melted the insulation from the telephone wires directly above it? Lol

how does that little motor start the big one? is there a belt and pulley assembley to trun the big one over until it fires?

At the Denton, NC show there is a permanent display of a straight-8 Climax gas engine. I don't know the displacement, but the size is about as big as this V-12, or maybe bigger. What a great sound it makes. I sure wish someone would upload a video of it or another one.

@JoseRicardo-ty5rg

9 ай бұрын

Eu tinha um vídeo dele e perdi.

that thing must put out about 5000 hp!!!!

that is one pissed off V12!!!

what is something like this normally used in?

Is that the engine for the Ferd F-teenthousand?

@goober239

9 жыл бұрын

CEOkiller God bless this comment! xD

@Vitesse1971 No, the engine was built in Clinton, OH by the Climax Engineering division of Waukesha Motor Company. The pony motor is a 4-cylinder 20hp Hercules gas engine.

@hammerogod really? cool. what part of oklahoma?

Jesus christ, that thing is big!! I wonder if it'll fit in my Golf..

Ya,they call them donkey engines,back in the day an electric starter that could candle that torque yet stil be reliable was almost impossible.I love the good ol days.

The sound reminds me the sound of Tatra 815 (diesel V12)

@ericchevy1999 Excellent clip! May people have commented on fuel price and how much it uses per hour/min. But more importantly, how long does it have to run before its job is done? 30 minutes or all day etc.? Thanks!

super

thats the first time i seen something like that.

0:55 Nice deathmetal xDD

Lead gas ?

What kind of HP and TQ numbers does this thing produce? Its a monster!

So any idea how many rpm's this baby turns?

@stevenfirst yeah quite a few older engines used set ups like that

thats so cool! it has a smaller engine to start it?

You know you have a large engine when you need another one just to start it...

@ericchevy1999 That litle engine started with the rope is caled an aux (auxiliar) engine!

How many gallons of water does it pump per gallon of gas?

you guys are destroying the enviroment!! WEUU I LOVE IT hahaha

@85projectcar You would probably need quite a large electric motor to start that thing, more than likely one that requires a power outlet, which would limit where you could take this motor. They say it was used to pump water, so I would say that they would want to move it all over the place.

did they also put these in heavy equipment? Like Yukes, dozers, front end loaders?

@ericchevy1999

7 жыл бұрын

Miller not too my knowledge those typically had screaming Jimmy's

we should make a dirtbike with this engine.

Thats a good engine name CLIMAX

that's going in my monster truck

climax ftw !:D

wow that sound of the v12 is from hell!!

how hard is it to start with the rope

Ahh i love these meetings... Nevermind the actual engineeres who made them.. these guys get togeather and rev their engines.. and say... look what i bought!

He starts a smaller engine, known as a "pony motor" with the rope and then the small engine acts as the starter for the big engine. John Deere "D" tractors also used this type of setup.

was this at the lainsville tractor festival? pretty sure I saw this in person.

(3 i like the manly pull start!

did the engine use to run on natural gas or some other source of LP Gas

@MrPinto1970 it was used to pump flood water in saginaw michigan there were six of these lol just imagine how awsome that woulda been

Where was this powerplant built?

I bet that was insanely loud