NO - Jesus DID NOT "follow" Moses, Jesus was and is BEFORE TIME - Moses obeyed Jesus!! "Before Abraham was born, I am!" - John 8:58

@xqusyte554

15 күн бұрын

exactly John 5:46-47 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

@haseebtariq7916

15 күн бұрын

Dude Christianity is an abrahamic religion so how can Jesus come before abraham

@xqusyte554

15 күн бұрын

@@haseebtariq7916 Abraham met Jesus before Jesus had a phyiscal body he had a spiritual one

@KY-lu8bp

10 күн бұрын

@@haseebtariq7916 because if Jesus is God who exisited before Abraham. Also Spirit of Jesus also guide prophets(1 Peter 1:10-12). it measn Abrahamic religions is religion of Jesus.

Sam shamoun wouldve ended her in seconds due to knowing all of the quran

@KOVACHOT

16 күн бұрын

obviously

@mmr1137

16 күн бұрын

He would point to fact that Quran say that Torah, Prophets and Gospel are revelation from Allah. Whrn she said yes he would ask can allah lie to peoole? She would say no. Than he would quote Bible. Than she can say some classic glibberish muslim bs and Sam would say now you said Allah is lying! You do blaspheming against Allah because you first confirm what Quran say Bible is word of God and then you are telling me this. Are you saying Allah lied to us? And then it is game over.

@urgaalnoir5268

16 күн бұрын

all are liars , from moses to jesus to Mohammad , it's just a bunch of liars fighting around and non of them can prove that god is by his side !

@antichrist_revealed

16 күн бұрын

I doubt he would have shut her up. Sam doesn't know who Jesus is, and so anyone can outwit him in any debate.

@Orthosaur7532

15 күн бұрын

​@@antichrist_revealedYou obviously have not watched any of his debates.

I can’t believe she uttered the words Mohamed as the successor of Jesus. I think I need to vomit.

@Samuele-hm2jv

16 күн бұрын

I actually go really confused when she said "why do you accept Jesus as a successur of Moses but not Muhammed a successer of Jesus it's cause Muhammed contradicted Jesus Jesus didn't contradict Moses. Sorry for bad English

@InitialPC

16 күн бұрын

yep, Jesus was so great He taught we should free slaves, pray for our enemies, forgive, stay chaste Then mohammad comes along, takes slaves, has child brides and tortures idolaters

@IAmTheStormWithin

16 күн бұрын

@@Samuele-hm2jv your English is fine. I completely agree, Mohamed also contradicts nonbiblical evidence so he is debunked even without the Bible. Since Muslims always say the Bible’s been corrupted.

This woman is unbearable

@THEREALETHANFELIXREIGNS-sc4yl

16 күн бұрын

True this why their doctrines which was taken from agnostic book of Thomas.

@Samuele-hm2jv

16 күн бұрын

​@@THEREALETHANFELIXREIGNS-sc4yli actually got really confused like i feel like my braincells were having a civil war or something that made no sense what she talked abou

@Samuele-hm2jv

16 күн бұрын

She said that cliffe accepts Jesus as a successer to moses but not Muhammad as a successur of Jesus, but Jesus didnt write about moses it was moses himself

@THEREALETHANFELIXREIGNS-sc4yl

16 күн бұрын

@@Samuele-hm2jv Even though Jesus didn't write anything that doesn't mean Jesus is less than what the Bible teaches. If you open your mind you will understand the people who wrote Qur'an read agnostic book of Thomas yo

@THEREALETHANFELIXREIGNS-sc4yl

16 күн бұрын

@@Samuele-hm2jv Yes,have you ever lived around a child who asked genuine questions and gives good answers and is mature than the young girl? I read the book of Genesis 1:1-2 and book of John 1:1(which feels like a spinoff of Genesis) I wish there would be more intelligent and clam people. Even a drunkard would be better than the young girl.

You can't talk about Christmas with a goose, bro.

Jesus was before Moses and came to fulfil the law He gave Moses to write down. Beginning and the end. The Alpha and the Omega.

The Quran does contradict itself. Sam Shamoun and GodLogic break it down

For what I can tell, if we use those arguments of hers, that just means there's also no way to prove Muhammad's trustworthiness and Islam as a whole

John 5:46-47 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Cliffe uses logical reasoning and observations to prove his point.

Girl, let the man speak ffs...

YAY 🎉

Galatians 1:6-9 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Revelation 22:18-21 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

I had a similar debate with a Muslim he focused mainly on the deity claims of Christ he tried to tell me the in John 8:58 when it says, “Before Abraham was born, I am” he said because I am was a reference to God it should be read “Before Abraham was born, God.” I responded with yes exactly he claimed to be God. He then said no Jesus was saying God existed before Abraham. I was speechless he proved my point but still couldn’t believe it. I then I asked him why did the Jewish leaders in the next verse try to stone him for blasphemy. He ignored me and asked a different question

@fraspqr

15 күн бұрын

@@jeffbob4559 I am is very particular because Jesus used I am in various times thorughout the bible to conferm his identity. Such as before the jewish leaders when they asked him if he was the son of God. He responded... i am. The same I am used 'before abraham'

@OGWarriorGamerXD

11 күн бұрын

I don’t think he was well educated on the topic and They stoned Jesus because they didn’t believe him well they wanted to Stone him because they didnt believe in him. Jesus hinted many times that he is God “Jesus answered, ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’” (John 14:6, NIV) And Revelation 21:6: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life.” Revelation 22:13: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” Revelation 1:8: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Maybe one day she’ll quit praying to Satan and find JESUS!

The Bible came 600 years earlier before the Quran lol the writers who wrote the Bible in NT heard & seen Jesus more realistic than the Quran writing about Jesus lol

Amen ❣️♾️✡️☦️✝️

@Live-jk1pn

16 күн бұрын

You Christians and Jews are ridiculous. You both don't recognize each other.😮😂

The same logic the woman used against Cliffe could be shoved against her religion also.

Jesus warned us that the Devil is a deceiver… in the Qur’an Allah admits he’s the greatest deceiver of all time ( chapter 3 verse 54)

According to Jesus’ admissions, as well as the Bible’s prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah.

the sermon of the mount is a clearly a contradiction of moses laws !!

@aaronkristo858

16 күн бұрын

Give specifics

@urgaalnoir5268

16 күн бұрын

@@aaronkristo858 if you read it, it clearly says :you've been told this and I tell you that. It's clearly an overriding laws that Jesus came up with

@aaronkristo858

16 күн бұрын

@@urgaalnoir5268 No. You need to give specifics.

@petrabanjarnahor229

16 күн бұрын

Yeah It's better than moses law.

@aaronkristo858

16 күн бұрын

@@urgaalnoir5268 Give specifics

The jews say Jesus contradicts Moses.

@InitialPC

16 күн бұрын

because He doesn't follow their traditions, they don't even follow them

@Theboar2

16 күн бұрын

@@InitialPC Moses allowed them to divorce their wives when ever they wanted and then Jesus said that you are not allowed unless because of cheating and that Moses only allowed it because they were stubborn. He even admitted himself to disagree with Moses word on this point so insignificant details that contradicts eachother is not a valid argument to dismiss someone entirly.

@InitialPC

16 күн бұрын

@@Theboar2 where did moses say "go ahead and divorce whenever you want" because the only thing I could find was a verse from deuteronomy where he says divorce is an abomination before the lord

@Theboar2

16 күн бұрын

@@InitialPCMatthew 19:3-9 The Pharisees approached Jesus with a question about divorce to test Him: Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." "Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

@InitialPC

16 күн бұрын

@@Theboar2 That's not a contradiction. A contradiction would be Moses saying its ok to divorce your wife for reasons other than sexual immorality. Jesus explicitly says "anyone who *divorces* his wife" Which means you are still *permitted* to divorce your wife for reasons other than sexual immorality, but if you do and marry another woman you are committing adultery.

Historicaly, Jesus is not God. What is this christian talking about ??

@fraspqr

15 күн бұрын

Historically.....Yes he is. Jesus = God

@Mletzko

15 күн бұрын

Jesus is God

@srinugrohoprahastono7701

15 күн бұрын

Biblically, yes Jesus is God. Historically ?? No he's not

@fraspqr

15 күн бұрын

@@srinugrohoprahastono7701 Biblically...Yes Historically...Yes You have no proof that is isnt

@srinugrohoprahastono7701

15 күн бұрын

@@fraspqr i do have proof. Jesus was human historically. Thus he cannot be God. Checkmate