.22 was popular in Germany back in the day, because you'd save the skin/fur from foxes, and .22 did of course minimal damage while still being effective over range. Especially in Drillings, where you'd have an "einstecklauf" (insert barrel) that'd run through the shotgun barrel.

@jesusoftheapes

3 жыл бұрын

The .22 is the most popular caliber ever made period .

@coaxill4059

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I've always been curious about postwar German gun culture.

It also gives you the option to teach new shooters with a .22. This would be a very cool feature if you're trying to teach a young shooter to effectively use a gun that they'll later inherit. Very cool.

To answer Ian's question at 2:00, the manufacturer Christoph Funk Gewehrfabrik went out of business in 1960, after the Soviets helped themselves to most of their machinery in 1945. It seems they spent the post-war years only producing arms parts and precision instruments, but not complete arms anymore.

@VorpalDerringer

9 жыл бұрын

That's unfortunate, this is a neat idea.

@adrianlarkins7259

9 жыл бұрын

That is indeed unfortunate. It's a fabulous rifle. Today, I think it would cost too much to make thereby putting the retail price out of reach of the average persons pocket.

@Skyliner04s

8 жыл бұрын

+decnet100 Hey, put a +Forgotten Weapons in your comment. Ian always appreciates this kind of info. :)

@janikesina7813

6 ай бұрын

Soyviets

I think it was for not just small game, but also for Fangschuss, the coup de grace on a game after the hunt. Fine rifle it is , and would cost much to reroduce today .

@ashleysmith3106

3 жыл бұрын

Save on centrefire cartridges !

@quentinburns8298

8 ай бұрын

the popularity of such guns is indeed at least one effect of European gun laws. With gun registration, the number of guns becomes an issue. So case of the more common Drilling configuration, you get a rifle AND a shotgun. I think they've made a few with all three barrels different such as a 16 gauge and a 7, 8, or 9 mm centerfile rifle barrel side by side on top and a 22 lr on the bottom. Usually it's two 16 gauges and then any one of the various rifles popular in Europe on the bottom from 22 lr on up. We had a Savage 24J with a 22 mag on top and a 20 guage on bottom.

That is freaking sweet! Who ever won that auction won a jewel. Congrats!

when i was sixteen, i was weak in the knees thinking of bridget bardot, enjoying her, but knowing that i would never really have her. i'm 62, and i feel the same about this arm. i want her soooo much!!! and i know that i will never have her. but it has been a pleasure just seeing her!! thanks again, ian!!

That looks like a very fine sporting gun. Your demonstration explains to me why you don't see this sort of thing. It's complicated and probably requires some very skilled craftsman and good materials to make functional and safe. Really neat idea though.

German craftsmanship + mechanically clever design. This would be a fun "Have you ever seen one of these?" guns to entertain fellow firearms enthusiasts. Would be nice to take out on a hunt as well. (Squirrels or deer). Another good one! Thank you RIA & Ian.

@AleXxTM123

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, these .22 extra barrels where there to be ready for everything. The big caliber for wildboars and roe buck, the small .22 for the occasional rabbit or fox or maybe a trash panda. Today a lot of hunters shoot foxes with regual caliber since it's mostly for pest control and not for the furr.

I'm from Erfurt, Germany and Suhl is about 60 minutes away from here. Never thought something from here would make into one of your videos.

@ForgottenWeapons

9 жыл бұрын

Oh, there are plenty of guns from Erfurt that will be getting into videos sooner or later...

@TheTheofrei

9 жыл бұрын

Suhl, in Thuringia I think,is a big deal with historic firearms manufacturer, those gunsmithing guilds have been making arms for over 400 years.

@TheBackdrafter80

9 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons Hey. I'm from Thuringia too and lived about 40km away from Suhl. There are still rifles made in Suhl. After the reunion of Germany in 1990 only a small company named "Suhler Jagd- und Sportwaffen GmbH" remained. As the name says they are manufacturing rifles for hunting and sports. The brand under which the rifles are sold is "MERKEL". They managed to expand a little in 2010. Homepage is: www.merkel-die-jagd.de/ Really beautiful stuff. And the Book about Christoph Funk says that the upper barrel was designated for hunting deer and stuff and the lower barrel for hunting smaller animals like foxes or bigger birds and for training. -> www.korsholm.dk/media/wysiwyg/PDF/Funk-Suhl.pdf

@thorstenmetalhead9666

4 жыл бұрын

another example of Suhl guns has been the Hym SR30 Straight pull ;-) Das ist auch aus Suhl.

@AleXxTM123

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTheofrei yeah there is a really nice small but really well equipped museum about the craftsmanship there. Went there with my dad once, it was really beautiful.

Damn do I love this freaking channel!! Even going back to the old videos you always learn something new about some other weird gun that isn't widely talked about

It's like a bolt action drilling. Very interesting find.

@davidkermes393

3 жыл бұрын

Not a drilling (triple barrel), but a ZWILLING (double barrel).

@hemlockoutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

REPETIERBERGSTUTZEN

My father bought me a gun like this when I was younger and it is a quite odd gun, I forget the order but it was an over under sporting rifle but one of the barrels shot a shot gun shell while the other barrel shot a rifle bullet.

This is a good idea, often while big game hunting you get the chance to groundswat a grouse(totally legal in Montana) but you can't justify the noise or ammo expenditure of using your centerfire rifle (also you need to know exactly where the point of impact is a extremely close range cuz it would be pointless to hit anything except the head).

Ideal for a post-apocalyptic world. Put a silencer on the .22 for taking out small game/sentries and then when the main battle begins open up with the main gun.

I would LOVE to own a rifle like this!

Very interesting rifle i would love to have one of those but my bank account says no you may not lol thanks for showing us that

@highvelocity6529

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you to get rich and buy anything you want brother .

@uncommonsmiley6820

4 жыл бұрын

Hello are you still alive please say yes

@assassinbassin3072

3 жыл бұрын

@@uncommonsmiley6820 idk why but that made me laugh so hard

@Waddellaw

3 жыл бұрын

RIP northernnorm65

@noobsforuse1015

3 жыл бұрын

Same

What a cool execution of the striker assembly & breach!

Thanks for doing all these videos from RIA, they've been very interesting.

This gun actually seems very practical to me. If you are hunting deer but get caught out in bad weather or maybe even get lost, you could kill a varmit with the .22 to eat while you wait out the storm or the night.

Wonderful rifle! Thank you for covering it.

That is a unique and well made firearm. Thanks for making this video.

what a beautiful weapon 💓 Thanks Ian. Without your efforts, I would never have had the privela

I always love seeing rifles made in my birthtown :)

I still want to see Moe's 5 in 1 gun from The Simpsons.

What an interesting and beautifuly made rifle. This would be great for hunting trips where you are hunting multiple species. The 22 for small game like rabbits etc and the 7 x 57 for Deer.

I really enjoy your videos, you explain everything with such detail and your passion for firearms shows.

Impressive engineering and craftsmanship. The .22 action might also have been handy if you shot a deer, found it down but still alive, and needed to dispatch it at close range.

@VanHalen2TheTop

3 жыл бұрын

i would rather finish it at a range with the 7mm mauser, a wounded animal is the most dangerous after all

@robert8984

3 жыл бұрын

Shooting deer with a .22 is illegal in Germany. 222 Remington is the weakest calibre that you are allowed to fire at any deer in Germany. (See: Article 19 German Hunting Law)

@Stephen85

Жыл бұрын

@@robert8984 yeah, but finishing one off that has broken hips from the bigger barrel isn't really what that law is trying to prevent.

what a beautiful weapon 💓 Thanks Ian. Without your efforts, I would never have had the privelage of viewing this maste

I really like that, I wish that feature could be put on modern Hunting Rifles. Thanks for sharing. Excellent Video.

I had a over-under 410 shotgun and .32 carbine, both were full length mechanisms with the .32 being a straight pull bolt. It was a better talking piece than it could do anything useful.

Lovely design. Matches no other from the time

Great idea, beautifully executed. Upper level Boy Toy. I would bet that the .22 action was operated more frequently showing it off to hunting companions than in actual hunting situations. Nice!

You do videos on lots of fascinating guns but this one really blew me away. I love it! Almost tempted to place a bid. I'm also entertaining sinful thoughts about trying to get somebody to add a .22LR barrel to my Ishapore 2A1...

I love your videos keep up the good work man!

Grandfather owned a rifle similar to this but it was a shotgun under the barrel in I'm guessing 18 gauge and it came with what appears to be an insert barrel in .22 LR. Main barrel is in 7.92x57mm. I own it now but I have yet to hunt with it. Anyways, point is, combination guns are always cool and seem to be, to me, a relic of a bygone era that deserves to come back.

Wow this is a gem of a vid

That's a really cool rifle and a really neat idea. Some other manufacturer over here in the states should make one in 30-06

This may have also been an attempt to get around weird gun laws in Europe, such as waiting periods, official permission, and licenses for each individual firearm. It has the added bonus of being able dispatch wounded large game with the .22. Thanks for the video on this unique and interesting piece.

@SpaceCowboyfromNJ

9 жыл бұрын

That was my thinking as well, though I think in addition to the waiting periods some European countries also limit the total number of firearms you are allowed to like 3-5. Since it is technically a single firearm you would essentially get two firearms without the second one counting against your total

@johnburnett5377

9 жыл бұрын

Exactly, limitation on total number of guns was one key point I forget to mention.

@Asko83

9 жыл бұрын

More likely it price and weight are the issue. Shotgun/rifle combinations were(are) really popular in some parts of Europe because with the price of one gun you can hunt multiple types of prey and particularly in mountain regions carrying one gun while hunting is much better than having a shotgun and one or two rifles. (For example I've seen triple barreled guns with one 12g shotgun barrel, one largebore rifle barrel for deer/elk and a smallbore barrel for birds.)

@decnet100

9 жыл бұрын

Asko83 I think along those lines too. These were definitely pre-WWII guns (as I've written elsewhere, the manufacturer stopped producing complete arms after 1945), and in that time the home country of this rifle restricted who could obtain and possess arms, made them go through paperwork for each gun, but if you were a regular hunter, then at least the federal law didn't have too many restrictions on the number of hunting rifles you could own. So I'd say it was indeed more of a convenience/flexibility/weight feature. Price might not have weighed into the minds of buyers of this particular rifle, as Christoph Funk Gewehrfabrik was known as the maker of very high quality, innovative and also rather expensive firearms - I'd suppose you could have easily bought three cheaper guns for the price of this back in the day.

@decnet100

9 жыл бұрын

SpaceCowboyfromNJ I think that was not so much the case in Germany, the Law of 1928 for example limited hunters to 10 rifles (more than that would be considered an illegal arsenal, in the light of ongoing armed groups of all political extremes plotting to overthrow the fragile democracy after WWI) which I suppose was at least not that much of a restriction that hunters would automatically seek to combine different guns into one without any additional benefit.

That is very cool! I would love to have such a unique gun! Likely rare and pricey.

Nice rifle!.. Thanks for sharing!.

Great video. Again.

A very interesting & high class rifle indeed.

Beautiful!

Beautiful rifle

Pretty cool!

That rifle .... rifles are really cool !

Wnderful rifle. The engineering variety is one great reason to collect firearms.

It is the melding of two different rifle into one. This is a very clever design adaptation in that a standard Mauser actioned rifle can have the tipping breech .22 mounted directly under the main barrel in 7x57mm. Therefore you did not have to go to the expense of a Swilling style (two barrel) hunting rifle being hand made at great cost.

This is now my favorite gun.

really cool rifle.

What a cool gun! I wonder if this could possibly be a commercial success today, or if anything like it is still made??

As a german, i would say that the small barrel is for training. you can train with the cheap 22 rounds and hunt with the larger ones. no one with a hunting license shoots at squirrels in germany, believe me.( and you need a license even for a .22)

damn that was one neat rifle i have not seen something quite like that before but it looks like it would be fun as hell to use

Thanks so much for this video. I am a hunter and collector of guns and I thought I had seen just about everything but you continue to offer guns like this that I didn't even know existed. I love seeing these complicated German guns. It takes a bold mind to set forth the engineering to make a time consuming endeavor like this. I am just wandering what do you estimate this gun is worth?

that is super cool! I don't think I have ever seen a rifle with a swing out chamber like that. I want it, too bad I don't have a few extra grand.

Probably the weirdest thing I've seen all week, and definitely one of the weirdest actions I've ever seen. Love it Ian, keep up the good work! PS: could you tell us how exactly the front end of the chamber/bolt lovechild thing seals against the barrel?

@ForgottenWeapons

9 жыл бұрын

The seal is provided by the brass cartridge case.

@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA

9 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons Maybe I was a bit unclear, let me rephrase that: How is the swing-out chamber sealed against the barrel?

@ForgottenWeapons

9 жыл бұрын

littlegrabbiZZ9PZA When you rotate the bolt handle down, it locks into a slot in the barrel that prevents it from opening when fired.

That's really slick

Christoph Funk... that is an EPIC name... lol

Bizarre and very cool. I love this channel. *BGM.41

Neat bolt system for the .22 barrel.

Great video and stimulating thread! Love the idea of coup de grâce, and its hunting applications. Much like a tank, or modern missile launchers... Could the .22 not have been an early application of a range finder for a marksman??

i dont want to just release the leaver for the 22 accidently slips his finger off... pretty much doing what he just said he didnt want to do. their was NO harm done to the gun however... could do that a million times... parts would wear from use before it got all peened out or something

If I thought I could afford it, this would be another one I would love from the up coming auction.

Very cool!

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Lol that intro song is so retro I love it

Way cool what a beauty.

Would love to see this in modern production

The reason for a .22 cal on the rifle is a old German tradition. Say if you are hunting and shot say a Stag and when you went to get it and it was still alive or even a hog, instead of letting the animal just bleed out like we do in America the Jägermeister would go to the animal and use the .22 to dispatch the animal. So this weapon was more or less made in the tradition of not letting the animal suffer an to have respect the animal.....Now there are other traditions where if you come back from the hunt and the .22, but that is other stories. Now before anyone questions why I know all this, I am first gen born in this country, my father was born and raised in Germany, and hunting is more of a family heritage than a sport in my family. And have learned the traditions of the old world from my father so they would never die.

@17fatboy04

8 жыл бұрын

the agree it is asshole thing to do. When my father was teaching !e to hunt he told me of you can't kill the animal clean than don't take the shot...He showed me how to respect the animal and the sport...

@Red-ur5xj

8 жыл бұрын

+Rini I was always taught to fire another shot point blank cut its throat or pull out a M1911 and fire one shot to finish it

@nickhowatson4745

7 жыл бұрын

the thing is going to die one way or the other. why waste a second bullet? that's why people carry a handgun. they dispatch wounded animals with them

@17fatboy04

7 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Howatson in Germany they don't hunt with handguns back than, and it is not right to let the animal to suffer, as a hunter to try and dispatch the animal as fast as u can...

@Deadtileyedie

6 жыл бұрын

I've never let a animal just bleed out..i will dispatch asap if at all possible

That's awesome.

this thing is freakin cool

Well that is just the coolest damn thing.

i love this rifle

Cool gun

Cool idea.

Do you keep a portrait in the attic , you haven't aged a bit even desite the occasional Scotch or two 😯 thoroughly enjoyed this blast from the past, thought I'd ran out of your excellent content !

@chilldelsymsteven

5 жыл бұрын

Its crazy watching the old and new. He really doesnt age too much and the quality and filming style is like always the same

I want that rifle so bad! It would be perfect for deer and small game.

very cool

double-barrel bolt-action...sort of.haha Ian you crack me up.

that's cool rifle

that is so cool I want that gun so bad

this is called a "Schonzeit Buechse"; hunters in Germany are in the field (Revier) year around and not just at hunting season; the purpose is to take varmints with the .22 when ever encountered; limits in the amount of guns owned and price is only secondary; And of course the main barrel is for hunting game in season

would love to see that on the range.

Yeah that's a very cool rifle, it almost also looks like it could be a magnum 22 magnum round cuz it looks a little bigger than a 22 long rifle case on the camera.

Weapons taught me discipline!

Would be interesting to see POI of both projectiles when both triggers are pulled.

Nifty!

It seems to me it'd be possible to design it so it also would have a .22 box mag inserted in the rifle as well. Though it'd have to be put in such a way as to not obstruct the mechanism between the trigger, thumb switch, and firing pin.

The Germans love the doubles and drillings, they are craftsman.

Awww, a dad and his baby.

I could put that to good use , would love to have it !

Great vid thouroughly enjoyed watching it. Living and hunting in Germany I get to see and experience many of these great firearms. But I noticed that you said it wasn't a double set trigger. I could be wrong but in the video it appears that the 7mm mauser trigger has a set screw. This would indicate a Ruckstecke vs. the Deutsche Stecke that the dual trigger setup would normally indicate. Did you try pushing the forward trigger forward to set it like on a drilling?? I'm no expert on this yet but I am a huge fan of the German trigger setups. All of the drillings produced here have a set trigger of this design where the forward trigger is a set trigger as well as a trigger for one of the shotgun barrels and the rear trigger fires only one barrel, be it shotgun or an einstecklauf, or full length rifle barrel insert.

Finally something to take care of those pesky squirrels that only show up when you’re deer hunting.

I would love this, but I wonder how close both barrels are zeroed next to one another.

You could also use tracers in the .22 to make sure your sighted and on target before firing the main rifle

@missano3856

5 жыл бұрын

Shooting at a big game animal with a 22 is a very poor idea.

Ian, speaking of double barreled sporting rifles, do you think you'll ever be able to get your hands on a Steinkamp SW1? It's a bullpup "break action" over/under rifle, would love to see an in-depth video on it.

modernise it and make a supressed .22 barrel... small game killer without disturbing to much game...

It would be interesting if the 7x57 and 22LR could both be fire for group size and point of inpact for comparason of drop etc.

@RedXlV

9 жыл бұрын

Since there's separate triggers for each barrel, there's nothing stopping a shooter from pulling both at the same time.

@waltlars3687

9 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the point of impact could you depend on the scope ?

How would you aim this thing? I don't think these 2 particular cartridges would have the same drop since the 7mm should substantially outrange the .22 round.

Would love to hunt with that just wish it had a Lee enfield bolt not a k98 bolt much prefer it