Clear Cutting a Forest

clips from Timber Tigers (1971) by Harvey Richards
available from the Harvey Richards Media Archive, at www.estuarypress.com/environme...

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  • @christuttle3980
    @christuttle39802 ай бұрын

    I worked for MacMillan Bloedel Eve River Division here on Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada and was an awesome company to work for was there a week after I graduated in 1980 to 2005 Built a house raised a family all the trees we logged were replanted and growing for the next cutting cycle

  • @skadill
    @skadill6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome classic logging footage,love it.Well enjoyed!!

  • @bryanreddy5703

    @bryanreddy5703

    4 жыл бұрын

    skadill shut the fuck up boomer

  • @arnenelson4495

    @arnenelson4495

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bryanreddy5703 Your filthy language betrays your "intelligence ".

  • @quadrunnerb4500
    @quadrunnerb45008 жыл бұрын

    Why would dragging logs hurt the soil?

  • @estuarypress

    @estuarypress

    8 жыл бұрын

    Soil builds over time with rich organic materials collecting on top from falling leaves, animal droppings, fungi networks, etc. When the canopy is removed the sun bakes the soil, killing it's living elements. Dragging logs through rich soils disturbs the delicate Web of life and deepens the sun's impact. Deserts grow from this. Forests are turned to scrub.

  • @quadrunnerb4500

    @quadrunnerb4500

    8 жыл бұрын

    Paul Richards So it crushes/tears apart a significant amount remaining life in the soil, leading to leaching? Is compaction the main issue?

  • @estuarypress

    @estuarypress

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Quadrunner B Yes, that and more. We seem to view dirt as a uniform and unpleasant part of life. This kind of attitude leads to short sighted and destructive practices. There are ways to extract trees from a forest without clear cutting and without destroying ecological health. When we begin to value the earth and the ecological balances that have produced our marvelous planet, we may find a way to do things differently. Clear cutting is negative for everyone and everything except the corporations that profit from it. And even for them, it is short sighted and self destructive to act this way.

  • @quadrunnerb4500

    @quadrunnerb4500

    8 жыл бұрын

    Paul Richards Well it can be and often is, but as with most things, it has its place.

  • @estuarypress

    @estuarypress

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Quadrunner B Destruction has its place in a planet headed for disaster and a species, us, headed for oblivion.

  • @shaan737
    @shaan7375 жыл бұрын

    hi. Can I use some part of this video for my project. please advise

  • @estuarypress

    @estuarypress

    5 жыл бұрын

    Please contact me via email. pauldr44@gmail.com

  • @beachfiredude
    @beachfiredude12 жыл бұрын

    @3;22 was incredible

  • @Terraceview
    @Terraceview11 жыл бұрын

    Sure it doesn't.

  • @stevet8121
    @stevet81212 жыл бұрын

    I logged old growth Redwoods back in the 60's and 70's. I love the sound and feel of a big tree hitting the ground.

  • @DisticTV

    @DisticTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    You love killing the planet then

  • @gangesexcavating
    @gangesexcavating12 жыл бұрын

    nice wood!

  • @Gagtag1
    @Gagtag110 жыл бұрын

    fml

  • @were2Ligit2Quit
    @were2Ligit2Quit12 жыл бұрын

    look at the date, forest harvesting has become way more sustainable and advanced.

  • @TruthArrows

    @TruthArrows

    6 жыл бұрын

    were2Ligit2Quit Clear cutting any forest, especially Old Growth forests is not and cannot be "sustainable" or healthy... for us or any other living beings. We are truly all interconnected and interdependent upon each other.

  • @HabeasJ

    @HabeasJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TruthArrows clear cutting mimics the thinning done by forest fire damage, which is vital for certain species like lodgepole and ponderosa to survive and thrive for coming generations. Almost all the old growth that will be cut has been cut, which means we're now dealing with a modified forest ecosystem full of second growth, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. . Again, many tree species need fire to reproduce, and in its absence we've taken the place of fire by clean cutting. Places where the most logging is done in the US (Alaska, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho) there are piles of rules and regulations as to the size of clear cuts, the shape, the timeline for replanting, the impact to wildlife, the impact to the watershed, the inpact to recreation, and the list goes on. Over the last century of logging, we've learned as loggers that we need trees to keep our jobs! So we can utilize the already modified forest ecosystem in a way that does not negatively inpact the environment and/ or ecosystem in a major way. We can protect all the things listed above, from the water to the wildlife, and still have enough logs rolling into the mills to keep a few 100k people employed, from the logger to the carpenter . Take care and happy 4th

  • @2007Kingquad700
    @2007Kingquad7009 жыл бұрын

    In other applications clearcutting may emulate natural disturbances such as forest fires/pest outbreaks; however, rather than losing the timber to disturbance we extract the resource (timber) to be used for many applications. The global population is huge, and clearcutting (when done responsibly) provides an economical AND sustainable means to service our needs (i.e. shelter, paper, furniture, (do you wipe?). Alternatives such as plastics and steel involve much more energy demanding processes (release a lot of greenhouse gases I assume you know all about the greenhouse effect?) to produce the end product. I agree with you fully in that every little thing is important - I fish, hunt and buy local products whenever possible and believe we need to seek new alternatives to the non-renewable resources we so heavily rely on. Just don't be too quick to say "clearcutting is bad"... become educated on the issue (I am not saying you are not... I don't know your background), and form a factual based opinion.Read more (10 lines)Show less

  • @TruthArrows

    @TruthArrows

    6 жыл бұрын

    red baron This is obviously an Old Growth Forest and that tree is probably at LEAST 1000 years old... at any rate it's several human generations in age, therefore, NO it is Not Sustainable. Clear cutting any forest, especially Old Growth forests, is extremely damaging to not only the local ecology but since all things are connected it's damaging to the global ecology in general. Humans cannot survive in a lifeless environment.

  • @TruthArrows

    @TruthArrows

    6 жыл бұрын

    red baron I'm thoroughly educated on the issue. *Clear Cutting is BAD* in fact, downright devastatingly destructive.

  • @elonmust7470
    @elonmust7470 Жыл бұрын

    this video is infuriating in that it skips all of the landings...... I want to see how those big trees saved out!

  • @pro353
    @pro35312 жыл бұрын

    @SquawMtnD4G why don't you agree with it? It is almost all facts...

  • @estuarypress
    @estuarypress11 жыл бұрын

    Wake up people. We have global warming and ecological collapse happening everywhere. Time to rebuild. If our economy means we must destroy the earth, then our economy is what must be changed. The earth is resilient and the smallest efforts to live in harmony with it will be repaid many fold over. Every little thing one can do is important.

  • @TruthArrows

    @TruthArrows

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul Richards Excellent comment!

  • @HubertofLiege

    @HubertofLiege

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you baby boomer for exploiting the resource for yourself then advocating for preservation

  • @kumar-jatin-2000
    @kumar-jatin-20003 жыл бұрын

    Sad 😭.

  • @francoislepine4698

    @francoislepine4698

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah, dropping that big cedar at the beginning was pretty sad....that one deserved to stay there

  • @2007Kingquad700
    @2007Kingquad7009 жыл бұрын

    Paul Richards, I disagree with the "clearcutting is bad" mentality. Managing forests is a very complex thing to do and there is no "one cookbook" design as to what type of harvesting operation should be conducted. I will agree that in SOME instances clearcutting is not the best approach (i.e.- unique or sensitive regions such as rainforests); however, this does no mean that harvesting cannot be done in these regions either, rather, a low impact selection harvest may be suitable. This CAN BE beneficial in HELPING to mitigate climate change - as selectively removing these old trees which are often dead (and therefore no longer sequestering carbon -only retaining it) provides growing space for a new generation of trees that are actively growing/sequestering carbon. In other applications clearcutting may emulate natural disturbances such as forest fires/pest outbreaks; however, rather than losing the timber to disturbance we extract the resource (timber) to be used for many applications. The global population is huge, and clearcutting (when done responsibly) provides an economical AND sustainable means to service our needs (i.e. shelter, paper, furniture, (do you wipe?). Alternatives such as plastics and steel involve much more energy demanding processes (release a lot of greenhouse gases- I assume you know all about the greenhouse effect?) to produce the end product. I agree with you fully in that every little thing is important - I fish, hunt and buy local products whenever possible and believe we need to seek new alternatives to the non-renewable resources we so heavily rely on. Just don't be too quick to say "clearcutting is bad"... become educated on the issue (I am not saying you are not... I don't know your background), and form a factual based opinion.

  • @esmith4646

    @esmith4646

    9 жыл бұрын

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  • @2007Kingquad700

    @2007Kingquad700

    9 жыл бұрын

    Eric Smith How long it takes a forest to "Return to its natural state" depends on the state the forest was in prior to harvesting.... An aspen stand will regenerate back to a state where you would not know a harvest took place in around 50 years (rotation age could be shorter).... Whereas an old growth rainforest may take thousands of years to return to its natural state (if ever) if it was clearcut. This is why harvest prescriptions need to be tailored to best suit a particular stand type. *I will note- That yes, harvesting in months when the soil is wet and rutting is an issue can perturb the rooting structure of such species that propagate through root suckering... Winter harvest operations essentially eliminate this.

  • @quadrunnerb4500

    @quadrunnerb4500

    8 жыл бұрын

    +red baron An aspen forest is a young forest in most places. It seems a shame when they lop off a grand section of old growth.

  • @2007Kingquad700

    @2007Kingquad700

    8 жыл бұрын

    Quadrunner B I see what you are saying, and I agree. But be cognisant that the term "old growth" is a relative term. It is often thrown around loosely and has many definitions depending on who you ask. Yes, aspen forests are generally considered "young" (although technically they can be among the oldest and largest organisms on earth... due to their method of vegetative reproduction- but that is of course, not really what we are talking about). But when looking at a 100 year old aspen stand, one could surely make an argument that the forest is "old growth"... some species may require/prefer over-mature aspen - whereas a hemlock stand may not be considered old growth until maybe 200 years of age- a redwood - much older still. I agree though ... it is sad to see large patches of the classic "old growth" forest which we are referring to be cut down - nature truly is beautiful in this regard

  • @quadrunnerb4500

    @quadrunnerb4500

    8 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have put it better. I like how you write your reply so others can learn from it too.

  • @timking5034
    @timking50342 жыл бұрын

    Listen to that tree scream it is so sad

  • @TimberTramp
    @TimberTramp6 жыл бұрын

    Bunch of propaganda....timber is climactic...we can manage timber and actually create better growing conditions.

  • @YOURLOCALROUGHNECK
    @YOURLOCALROUGHNECK4 жыл бұрын

    Idiots are killing nature

  • @YOURLOCALROUGHNECK

    @YOURLOCALROUGHNECK

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aren Nelson do you support people who chop and kill trees

  • @arnenelson4495
    @arnenelson44953 жыл бұрын

    BS

  • @levinche
    @levinche8 жыл бұрын

    Today, clearcutting is much quicker. Less people, more machines, much more effectiveness. Cheaper. Great! :-(

  • @HubertofLiege
    @HubertofLiege5 жыл бұрын

    Piped in sound that doesn’t match the video, just as their facts don’t match reality

  • @heliumblur1144
    @heliumblur11445 жыл бұрын

    Makes me sick to my stomach how we can allow such a thing

  • @quinnrowden1952

    @quinnrowden1952

    5 жыл бұрын

    HeliUmBlUr ‘’ yeah how dare we sustainably use natures resources

  • @arnenelson4495

    @arnenelson4495

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you live in a wood frame house/apartment, sit on a wooden chair, use a pencil, etc,, YOU ARE supporting the Timber industry. Thanks for your support! Keep up the good work, we need you.

  • @AssociationMusic

    @AssociationMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    All of these idiots keep saying we’re responsible loggers...yet 95% of the old growth redwoods are gone forever. They only speak about conservation as they’re arguing to cut more trees down. They don’t have to use old growth redwoods, there’s plenty of other options, this one is the most profitable for them though. Smh..

  • @arnenelson4495

    @arnenelson4495

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AssociationMusic Many are protected and those logged are not gone forever, they grow back not in our lifetime but as related to the age of the earth a short time. Logging gave you a place to live. 95% ? BS.Thanks again for supporting the timber industry!

  • @bridgettesmith33
    @bridgettesmith33 Жыл бұрын

    Devastating and disgusting

  • @environmentalmediafoundati3857
    @environmentalmediafoundati38576 жыл бұрын

    Disgusting