Classical Composer Reacts to The Logical Song (Supertramp) | The Daily Doug (Episode 564)
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to music by Supertramp with their lead single from Breakfast in America, The Logical Song. I had heard this one before, but I had never given much attention to the lyrics or to the song's construction. So, this was quite an eye-opening and lovely listen, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
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Supertramp is probably the most underappreciated band of it's era. So many great songs, sophisticated stuff, but everyone seems to miss them among the Best Of.
@Jaezon
9 ай бұрын
They weren't underappreciated. 2 Grammy's for this album.
@clausappel8086
5 ай бұрын
Most obvious evidence for this is the fact that they haven't been inducted into the R'n'R Hall of Fame yet. Or should I say Hall of Shame?
@clausappel8086
4 ай бұрын
@@Jaezon Best produced rock album and best cover artwork, right?
@rolandobacamartinez5391
2 ай бұрын
Exactly! The composers combo Hodgson/Davies is at the same level that Beatles’ Lennon/McCartney
Breakfast in America is an all time classic album. Great composition & songwriting,
@Edman116
Жыл бұрын
I played that album so much that my needle carved deeper grooves and now it plays Rush Moving Pictures.
@grahamkemble3917
Жыл бұрын
It had the most commercial success, especially in the US but I preferred the three previous albums to Breakfast in America.
@g54b95
Жыл бұрын
@@grahamkemble3917 I agree. There are other really solid tracks on this album, though, like 'Child of Vision' and 'Take the Long Way Home'.
@billjones8503
Жыл бұрын
@@grahamkemble3917 So'd I tbh, but Supertramp deserved a massive hit LP such as BIA before the well ran dry-& they/we got it! Perfect ending to the last yr of the amazing 70's! 🎯
@Willie_McBride
Жыл бұрын
Not a bad song on that album.
That toy whistle at the climax of the song is one of the best moments in all of rock music. It breaks the tension built up in the preceding rising chords in an unexpected and humorous manner. IMHO, the best album of 1979. A real slap to the punkers.
@pencilpauli9442
Жыл бұрын
And it is a sonic recall to the opening verse?
@PhilipvanderMatten
Жыл бұрын
The Wall.
@cjshardcorepunkmusicvault8474
Жыл бұрын
Oh my, that might be one of the stupidest remarks I have ever read - the end remark. If you are not from the UK, 1979 there was great upheaval in UK society and 'punkers' as you called them were all disassociated youth who had nothing to look forward too and the music of the time bore that out. Thatcher was evil. Most street level punks never had the chance at music education and came from very poor backgrounds. Bands like Yes, Supertramp etc all came from privileged backgrounds. So it is easy to see why they were rebelled against. I grew up in the UK and in Canada and was able to have a musical education. Yes I like punk music, not the Sex Pistols, they were a joke but bands like The Clash, The Damned, XTC, Ramones and later hardcore bands Discharge, GBH etc.. I also played jazz and loved bands such as Pink Floyd, Bowie, Supertramp etc. Music is personal and everyone likes what they are drawn too. Saying it was a slap to punkers in just misinformed and ignorant.
@Bjowolf2
Жыл бұрын
And the alarm clock 😉 "Get up - you have to become more logical & cynical!"
@garryiglesias4074
Жыл бұрын
@@PhilipvanderMatten Day after day, love turns gray...
In terms of songwriting sophistication and production for the era, this is almost on par with Steely Dan, which is a high compliment.
@billjones8503
Жыл бұрын
Vy High!
@216Numbskull
Жыл бұрын
IDK about all that my friend, this album was good no doubt but the songwriting skills & production of Steely Dan? You sure you weren't really high when you made this comment? Blah,ha,ha!!! ++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul++
@craigcotter7476
Жыл бұрын
@@216Numbskull better than Steely Dan. How about that?
@216Numbskull
Жыл бұрын
@@craigcotter7476 Yeah sure OK if you say so, you do you it's all good. Let's just enjoy the music altogether how bout that, cool? Right On! +++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul+++
@nazfrde
Жыл бұрын
How to say you don't know anything about music without saying you don't know anything about music.
A huge hit even here in Brazil. I bought the album in 1979. I still listen that record.
I love the nod to Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the "One, two three... five!" count
Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty. - Mark Twain
@user-wz1sv3br1l
Ай бұрын
I love this! I never heard this before. It’s so true.
Supertramp were huge in Canada. This song is one of many to hit #1 on the Canadian charts. The album "Breakfast in America" itself hit Diamond status (1.5 million) in a country with a population of around 24 million. Than means 1 in 16 people had an album, not including seniors 65+ or children under 14 makes it around 1 in 13, pretty incredible statistics. That would be like a modern artist selling 43+ million copies of an album in the USA.
@superior96
Жыл бұрын
That's insane
@TheDopekitty
11 ай бұрын
I grew up in a house with the 8-track of Breakfast in America and many other rock albums on vinyl and 8track thanks to my much older brother.
I saw this band in concert in Winnipeg back in 1979. My God it was the best concert I have ever seen. Not flashy, just musically amazing. They did this thing with the song Rudy that never forgot.
My favorite song of all time! Roger Hodgson is GOD! This song haunted me throughout my childhood. I was 6 years old when this song came out. I relate to it so much now as to when I was young back then. Brilliant song!
@cjshardcorepunkmusicvault8474
Жыл бұрын
Roger was amazing. I loved Supertramp, but I found his solo material after he left the band to be quite amazing, Had A Dream from the album In The Eye Of The Storm is one of my fav songs by him barring Supertramp songs.
@Srt_Kelly
Жыл бұрын
I like “it’s raining again”
@stantheman9072
Жыл бұрын
It’s a great song, but no! Roger is not.
@samhogg2311
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree loved it since I was 14
Love Rogers vocals in this and the lyric is so inventive! And I adore sax .. Ah, soundtrack of my youth.
Their 'watershed' album!!!!!!! Not a bum song on this album!!!!! I played the HELL out of this back in 1979!!!!!!!! One of their ABSOLUTE best!!!!!!!!!
@Pink_Freud_Obscured_By_Crowds
Жыл бұрын
And then Live In Paris came out and I played the heck out of that one😊
@gregsmith1070
Жыл бұрын
Casual Conversations is brilliant
Love seeing Roger Hodgson honored with a Daily Doug. He's a brilliant artist and, by all accounts, a gentle, spiritual soul. His music has been something of a liferaft for me during some very difficult times in my life. I've literally had days when I thought I should just end things, but his music has stirred me to push through.
@misterghee1
Жыл бұрын
Pushing on is what we do get some Ginseng, spirulina and enjoy the sunset 4 ever😊
Such a wonderful band. Thanks, Doug.
Supertramp are one of the greatest group of the era. In 1979 i saw them live in Paris .one of the best live concerts I've ever seen. 😂😂😂😂😊
@jm12green31
22 күн бұрын
Cool man
I never listened to the lyrics & finding out what they are & mean it gives the song an entirely new meaning. And I completely agree. I’m a preschool teacher I’m a naturally childlike person. I love working with open minded wonder filled children. It soothes my soul. Gives me hope. But eventually they hit the wall of conformity & it breaks my heart. I too became a cynic but more of a rebel. Raging against the machine, the mold my family & society thought I should be. I have Peter Pan syndrome. LOL Also as a teacher curriculum is a beast.
@adladl4276
Жыл бұрын
I'll second that.
@Pedro_MVS_Lima
Жыл бұрын
Awesome post, Melissa. Thanks!
the sound of the mattell hand held football game always takes me back to my 12th grade history class in'79. a couple of guys were playing with it in the back of the class and that sound caught the teacher's ear. of course he took the game away. at the time that was state of the art in gaming. how far we've come!
An alumnus of two boarding schools myself (London UK aged 8-13 & Cape Town aged 13-17), the lyrics of this song struck home for me when I first heard it while working in Hong Kong. My youngest and his band played this at his boarding school last year. It proved so popular that it has been adopted as the senior school's theme song for this year's Year Book video. ❤
Hands down, one of the best bands of the 70's--really, one of the great rock bands, period. Interesting lyrics set to smart, sophisticated, cleverly arranged music that perfectly blends prog and pop sensibilities. Their bassist, Dougie Thomson, is an unsung hero in my eyes, seamlessly blending drive and melody and color, while understanding the huge importance of space (a trait the whole band shares).
Yeah, we joke about how pop songs are all I-IV-V7 rinse and repeat, but often their chord progressions are pretty sophisticated and out there. Amazing piece of music.
Brilliant tune. I listened to it for more than forty years. It has always caught my attention as it contrasts to a careful and pleasant melody, the "wild" sax that appears in the last part of the song, but that really highlights everything. Great song. Great choice.
My favorites out of all their great music is #1 The Logical Song, #2 The Long Way Home, & #3 Goodbye Stranger. What I always took from this song was that it was about the loss of childhood innocence. When you are little, the world is new & magical. Everything is full of joy & wonder. But then you start to grow up, go to school where you learn from adults (& other kids) how to look at your world through different eyes. As you continue to mature, you become part of society & are expected to act, think, & say things a certain way. But deep down you are still an independent person with dreams, creative imagination, & opinions that might go "against the grain" of what you were taught and how others think. It's a song of trying to understand yourself & wanting to break free of conformity instead of being "just another brick in the wall" (as Pink Floyd said). The voices are amazing, but that saxophone is on FIRE! Music from the 70's & 80's & a little bit from the 90's is the only thing I listen to. Don't care for today's music; regardless of genre.
The production on this tune is just phenomenal. And the lyrics, so relatable!!!
@UrsaMajorPrime
11 ай бұрын
I see what you did there 😏
Timeless classic, it’s that great!
One of my very favourite songs. The lyrics make are so relatable now I am in my 50's.
Love Supertramp! Amazing albums. Brilliant musicians and great songs Paris album is fantastic!
I was only 9 when Breakfast in America was released. I listened to all the songs repeatedly over and over and still love it to this day. The lyrics in The Logical Song are excellent and helped increase my vocabulary at the time.
Supertramp were a phenomenal band. It's a cliché but they didn't get the credit they deserved. I still love listening to their wonderful music today.
Some extremely good production on that album. Amazing band!
Great song!
Epic song, remarkable & life-changing.
Breakfast in America was the soundtrack to my freshman year of college. University of Illinois, Sherwood Lodge, opium den #1, (Bob’s room); thank you Bob for introducing me to Supertramp, and I forgive you for all those hours of your guitar playing.
The album is the first LP I bought. When CD appeared, it's the first CD I bought.
Thank you Doug . With all of your knowledge that you are gracious enough to share , your humility and warmth is what resonates with listeners .
You have wonderful Style how you explain music how you listen to music 👏 👏 👏
Love this band. A+.
'Breakfast in America' would be one of my 10 desert island CD's. Supertramp is an amazing band with a superlative body of work.
It all began with “Dreamer” for me, and I still rate that song as one of my all-time favourites
Supertramp is the Best
I am since 40 Years a big fan of Supertramp. I have all their albums on CD and Vinyl. I never under-appreciated them. There is no other band with the same sound. Thanks for the video
I was 11 years old when this album was released and I remember listening to the cassette over and over. It had a huge impact on me. I may not have understood the themes, but I loved the sound.
One of my all time favourite songs given a new understanding thanks to this reaction. Superb.
You have an amazing technical grasp of music (to us laypeople) and a great delivery. I so appreciate your analysis. Also, as a fellow old (?) guy, I dig that you patiently dissect these tunes that we all just took for granted for so long.
This is definitely on my list of songs I never get tired of hearing.
Hey Doug, I love this album and Supertramp was a great band with songwriting that was a lot more sophisticated than many people probably realize.
I saw them touring behind this album and incredible concert,they were so good live.
What a unique voice!
Gone Hollywood is such a great song. Almost heavy in Supertramp terms. The guitar riff is outstanding,
@stephen1562
Жыл бұрын
The best on the album
Yes indeed, we transition from the wonder and magic of childhood; through the confusion of adolescence, and emerge as prescription medication or alcohol consumers in order to cope with the harsh reality of our lives... Do as you have been programmed to do - let's all smile and be happy now!
Somebody dubbed the studio version over that stellar live performance. The ear knows.
This song was a great hit here in Brazil at80's too...
When this album dropped I was so excited because from what I had heard I needed to hear more and boy was I right it's a fantastic voyage!!! Great album Doug!!! Thanks for covering this song❤
Fantastic band and a great song. Thank you.
Wonderful analysis from the channel👍 'Child of vision' is also a pure gem (among others) from this masterpiece album.
Genius transcends culture and geography and language in songs such as this
I ran up on your channel by listening to one of my favorite groups. I just celebrated my 66th birthday. This story I'm about to tell you about Supertramp is absolutely the truth. I lived in the Willamette valley in 1978 and 79. My friend and I got tickets to Supertramp playing at the Paramount theater in Portland. I think since then they've torn that place down. I don't think the Paramount theater in Portland exist anymore I'm not sure. But I got the tickets and we went. It's full seating unlike other concert venues. It was amazing! When they started to play most everything was dark. All of a sudden the stage lit up with lights. Rodger and all of Supertramp had pure white tuxedos on. The grand piano was totally white. It was the most amazing sight. I've been to a lot of concerts in Portland in the 80s at memorial coliseum. Never one so amazing as this.
Do It’s Raining Again. The sax outro, perfect.
I like to quote carl sagan: Without the arts and humanities, whats the point of understanding the universe??
My dad gave the band a ride to the laundromat one time. He worked at Peaches record store chain in Memphis is the 70s and bands would stop in on their tour and do record signings. They were on their tour bus and needed to wash their clothes.
A little fact. The sound the comes in after digital, is from a hand held football game from Radio Shack. It was the sound the game made when you were tackled.
Thanks, Doug for a very informative reaction video well done. I was 13 and Breakfast In America was my first album I ever bought. It's still one of my favourite albums and this is my favorite song. At that age I definitely resonated with the lyric, my questions about life definitely ran deep.
Resonates all the way through!
Fantastic song. Perfect.
I have no doubt that you are a very talented composer and I would love to hear some of your music!!!
@FranekComposes
Жыл бұрын
Here is the playlist for Doug's original compositions 💥‼️ kzread.info/head/PLO0n3LrUjxKrRwbEyxtnM3hPmaRUXxItp
saw them live just as they were entering the charts with their first chart single in the uk and to this day still one of the best live bands ive ever seen (and ive seen all the big 70,s and 80.s big bands)
this song was 8th grade for me -how profound this song was to me -thanks much Doug! Luv this channel :-}
Supertramp were a thinking man's prog pop band.... always great thoughtful songwriting and arrangements. 👍💫 Another UK band....Glad you dug it Doug....
Love watching you always great content
This is my go to song when I feel low. Reminds me of my parents, especially my dad. Listening to it a lot at the moment as not in a good place 😢😢
Love that you connected this to The Wall! I never thought about that.
C-7 Abmaj7 G-7 Bb Abmaj7 F7 (inversion A-7b5). Eb Eb lyd Abmaj7/Eb Db 7th 6th 5th This is quite commun but well written for a rock band melodically and overall.
One of my favorite albums all time. Breakfast in America a loaded with radio play hits and a few solid B's sides.
I‘m 16. Love it. I really wish I grew up in the 70‘s….
This song is tremendous. The whole album is.
Great song, thanks for breaking it down through your brain. It's always interesting to get other takes from different mindsets.
Amazing song. Amazing.
Nice one Doug. In 1979 I was 14 and ‘sent away’ to boarding school. These albums are in my DNA, along with ELO, etc. They made me think, and now at 58, with two daughters (19&22), who both experienced my (our) school, I believe we have a more ‘holistic’ view on people/life/society than friends who went through other educations like a sausage factory. I really enjoy your musical autopsies. Thank you.
The funny thing about that song is the dissonant part but almost not noticeable From Eb lydian (Eb A C G) while the melody is Ab (G>Ab and A>Ab) going to Abmaj7\Eb chord
Nice harmonic analysis. I love the altered chords that add complexity (eg: the IV with the A-natural)
I saw them during that tour (November 79) in Lyon whilst I was doing my National Service, astounding band live, unforgettable.
Always a cool song. Never gets old either. 🙌🏻
supertramp rocked!
The song School off their first album kind of mirrors the subject.
@JoriDiculous
Жыл бұрын
You mean third album, Crime of the Century.
Great reaction to a very interesting and important song. Thank you!
This song always reminds me of "Wind up" by Tull. I always forget how much I love Supertramp. Thanks for video.
More Supertramp ❤😊😮
Love this song!!!!
Great episode! I found the "feeling" inherent in Supertramp, Pink Floyd and even Marillion (yet another British band) very southing while growing up in the 70s/80s. While they all lean to the more melancholy side of things, they also open you up to questions. I think it was a good thing.
Interesting fact, Roger Hodgson was a direct contemporary of Richard (Virgin) Branson at Stowe School.
I'm old enough to be a contempary fan of Supertramp at their peak. I fondly remember driving from London to Devon in the summer of 1980 with this at full volume. They are a favourite band of mine and the logical song is genius.
Lots of great songs on the entire album Breakfast in America... My favorite is still Crime of the Century
A beautiful song in IT'S RAINING AGAIN/Supertramp
Wow, I've forgotten this tracks charm. Added to my playlist. Thanks for the breakdown, Doug! Keep it up!!
@joedecker3900
Жыл бұрын
It’s so popular how can you forget it?
I was a part of the band at one show in the early 80's. (ok, i went to a concert really high and sincerely felt like i was part of the show and I played a giant invisible harp!)
We lived and breathed Supertramp in the 70's! Love them!
It's such a great song! I knew about it, but wasn't aware what it was about.
My favorite album of all time. That said, you MUST cover In Memory of Elizabeth Reed by the Allman Brothers. Trust me, it's maybe the greatest amalgamation of blues, jazz rock, and damn near everything else that sounds fantastic. Do it.
Funny I was just listening to this album! Great reaction and breakdown of the song.
Another master piece of the great Roger Hodgson...
This brings back some memories of playing this to death on the jukebox in the University Student Union bar (when I should have been in lectures).