Thanks for watching, everyone! Make sure to check out the links in the description to find my guests and many, many more resources if you are playing a Shaman in Classic WoW. Timestamps: 02:07 - Race Selection for each spec and type of play 15:04 - Leveling 43:01 - General Theorycraft 58:13 - Melee-Specific Theorycraft 1:03:53 - Caster/Healer-Specific Theorycraft 1:17:42 - Consumables & Buffs - Enhancement 1:24:08 - Consumables & Buffs - Elemental 1:29:07 - Consumables & Buffs - Restoration 1:30:55 - World Buffs - Enhancement 1:32:03 - World Buffs - Elemental 1:34:18 - World Buffs - Restoration 1:35:18 - PvE Talents - Enhancement 1:58:02 - PvE Talents - Elemental 2:03:42 - PvE Talents - Restoration 2:11:42 - Pre-Raid BIS - Enhancement 2:27:26 - Pre-Raid BIS - Elemental 2:39:02 - Pre-Raid BIS - Restoration 2:42:47 - Raid BIS - Enhancement 2:57:20 - Raid BIS - Elemental 3:15:04 - Raid BIS - Elemental 3:24:13 - Enchants - Enhancement 3:28:33 - Enchants - Elemental 3:29:55 - Enchants - Restoration 3:30:40 - Rotation - Enhancement 3:36:20 - Rotation - Elemental 3:40:12 - Heal Functions - Restoration 3:47:25 - PvP Gear for Raids? 3:51:12 - General Shaman PvP 3:54:26 - Enhancement PvP 4:07:48 - Elemental/Restoration PvP 4:10:37 - Farming as a Shaman 4:18:26 - Addons & Macros 4:26:25 - Tools & Resources

@erikstark16

4 жыл бұрын

Defcamp & Melderon TV Under raid BiS you wrote elemental twice. Just a heads up

@WarsunGames

3 жыл бұрын

An this is where you screwed up. 1:37:10 No one puts points in to that. They need the Dodge ability Anticipation. That was a big mistake. Not only in PvE but PvP. Shaman have NO DEFENSES WTF are you thinking? Ill just run up to the guy an deal lots of damage. NO! You will be beaten into the ground LONG before you deal any damage.

I need to watch a 4 hour video about shamans it’s very important

Very happy to be a part of this master class. Always do my best to help out fellow Shaman and specifically enhancement Shaman in classic. Thanks again Meld for having me.

@coreymacnamara4498

4 жыл бұрын

Hello from Destromath. Glad to see you still kicking it.

@Holderhek

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreymacnamara4498 A lot of us in the guild are from OG destro. Do you play classic?

@coreymacnamara4498

4 жыл бұрын

Holderhek Yeah, over on Atiesh with the CSM guys. I did see tons of get of fenris in Av

@itsmennoo

4 жыл бұрын

As a fellow enhancement u are my hero Holderhek! Ur so right u know fuck ppl talking shit about meme specs lol I love enh! Love ur attitude haha

@Lagencie

10 ай бұрын

the moment you find this master class 3 years later for HC start and realize the streamer you wanna watch does no WoW content anymore lol ... wanted to go enhancement shami all the way and watch you lol come back!

I've listened to the entire thing, and as usual with Melderon content, it has pleased my shaman ears. Really great information, heard most of it before, but the refresher was VERY WELCOMED and needed. Part of both discords (Shaman and Holderhek's) since long before the video, not active any longer though :( Big thanks to all people involved in the making of this video, really great video, love it!

@herbits

4 жыл бұрын

Long live Parental Guidance! Kind Regards, Magnumopus. Leveling a shaman as an alt right now :)

Just started a Shaman recently, and I'm watching this shit once again.... it never gets old this was so well done Melderon bravo!

This must be one of your best videos buddy. I mean sure 4,5h can seem bit much listening to in one go but since you also added timestamps, easier to paus and come back later is so welcomed. Plus the fact that you included ALL aspects of Shamans. PvE and PvP, races and all the other things. Even 1 unique person of each in it. This comes from someone who just play Shaman as alt but this was just amazing Phil and I do thank the other 3, which I am sorry to say, knew little about before this. Can't know every US player/content creator as EU supporter :D

This is something I have been looking for. I played elemental , enhancement and restore shaman in tbc, so this puts in perspective on classic. Although honestly I’m preparing this toon to eventually have a 60 shaman for tbc, But I wanted to learn how to play the specs while I’m here. Thanks!!

I made it before tbc! Thank you. Could not have gotten shaman 60 without this. I seriously listened to this soo many times. If it wasn't for the enthusiasm of you guys for the game I would have never finished what I failed at 16 years ago. Thank you.

Perfect video for farming. Thank you, stay safe

FYI, when you use nightfin soup you should see two separate mana icons on the display. When you mouse over it, it'll show 8mana/5 on it. Great video.

This was amazing. thanks everyone

guys just want to thank you for such an awesome vid i learned so much new shaman here

Chads taking over the world.

holy shit i love those master class videos, very good work and thank you very much!

Thank you so much guys, this is amazing.

Im Hella late, but thank you so much for posting these guides. They're like the sole reason why I'm a functional shaman in classic, much love❤

Hey there, old timer here and I

Very good guide, thanks guys!

I just went to college. I really like your group mentality. You all have really good points to bring to the table. I'm level 23 now dreading the barrens. I know feel much more confident. Thanks :)

Oh finally. You have no idea how many times I searched this only to be disappointed you hadn't done it yet.

@VintageNarwhal

4 жыл бұрын

Seiichiro Fujimoto literally same

Thanks Melderon, Very Cool!

I'm getting realy hyped to play a shaman for tbc, looking foorward to tbc guides if it gets announced! Love your content!

Oh boy! Thank you very much for this in depth breakdown of shamanism in WoW!!! I almost hit the Crit cap during my last BWL Raid. I forgot to get the R.O.I.D.S. Version of agility which gives us 1,25% Crit. With all world buffs and raidbuffs i had 53,8 Crit with elemental devastation up!

Great work! Thanks

I absolutely loved this video. If you guys ever do another MasterClass, or simply want some more input, I would love to have a sit down and talk to you guys. High Warlord Obiwankenobi-Grobbulus Ele/resto Tauren Shaman since classic release.

oh shit you got holderhek! awesome

Great video! Covers a lot of elements. My only suggestion is to zoom A LOT more on the build because it’s incredibly difficult to read the build; especially on mobile

Ever thought on doing this incredibly amazing guides/vids for other games? Btw good job on this one!

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

It comes down to time really but yeah we've thought about it

It's videos and conversations like this that I miss the most I hope Season of Mastery brings it back

1:55:00 regarding the topic of speccing ele/enhance I used to have a couple buddies who loved this spec way back in vanilla and they were murderers in pvp. We named it the suicide spec because it was basically nothing resto and heavy ele / enhance hybrid. you could output a ton of damage and really destroy in pvp but you were a glass canon. The combo of big crit spells and potential windfurry hits could delete.

This is like watching high level shamans sitting around a campfire in the Barrens, discussing matters of the elements and spirits until the sun comes up.

@v23God

4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful analogy

@TheTechCorner

4 жыл бұрын

The best part is, I started this at 4am. I feel this post on a spiritual level.

Loved the video! Would have nice to have a little bit of time for tanking talk with caperfin though

I am a big fan of ghost wolf 1 sec cast for the fastest movement for a long time and has saved me.

1 note on leveling stats. Dont sleep on Agi/Spirit gear as enh

Made one shaman lvl 60. Now i kinda wanna level another...

Coming from a raiding Elemental Shaman main spec, I have a few thoughts as far as gearing goes: in ZG there’s actually couple big pick ups as far as elemental shaman gear goes. Bloodcloth Gloves (cloth, 19spell dmg, 1% hit), Betrayers Boots (cloth, 30 Spell dmg) and Cloak of Consumption (23 Spell dmg, 1% hit) and if you haven’t acquired Talisman of Eph Power then the ZHC from Hakkar is huge. Truth be told, Natural Alignment Crystal might be the 3rd best Spell damage trinket behind TOEP & ZHC. Come AQ40, tho, Goodmood mentions that Deep Earth is better than Stormcaller because 40>28, which is true, but he neglects that the 3/5 tier bonus has a 20% chance to proc a bonus +50 damage to lightning spells for 8 seconds, so ideally you’re going to want to acquire the shoulders, legs & boots to make optimal use out of the set. I’m probably going to grab the chest as well since the leggings of elemental fury in Naxxramas are so amazing, but ideally you want to keep Mish’undare on as long as possible being that the 2% crit on it is just too good to part with. Gauntlets of Kalimdor are going to be my PVP/Open world gloves, but Dark Storm Gloves are going to be the PvE gloves goal from off C’thun (37 spell dmg, 1%hit). On top of the Belt of Stalk that gives 41 spell dmg & 1%crit will blow Mana Igniting Cord our when it becomes available. Just some extra Elemental insight. -Kinjospyke, Fairbanks

Just a pointer for the other shaman newbies such as myself. If you want your fire nova totem to go off, maybe you're tanking a dungeon or aoe farming drop it about a second after you drop stoneclaw, this way the mobs that you don't have actual aggro on (Stuff you haven't hit yet) will take the stoneclaw as secondary target, instead of the fire nova totem!

Hey guys, great vid. Thanks for the content. Question for ya. Does Spell hit effect fire nova and magma totems?

I am a simple man, I see D&M video, I like! Thanks for this, Shaman is a great class for sure! I'm Druid at heart (Horde ofc) but if Classic has taught me one thing, it's that each class is awesome in it's own way. In TBC when I started, I was a one-class guy, but in Classic I'm a philandering altoholic :P BTW... Would you guys consider putting your VODs in a playlist?

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! Are you talking about streams? Because If so there should be a hardcore playlist on the description

@noneofyourbusiness7609

4 жыл бұрын

@@DefcampMelderonTV I was, thanks for pointing it out! I tend to listen to long streams with commentary at work on some occasions (almost as if they were podcasts, weird I know), and I can't go on Twitch or Discord there, nor can I log on to my personal email :) Thank you and take care of yourselves!

orc for pve and pvp ! you can use shoes!!!

@Ghost-fe1vp

4 жыл бұрын

Watching this while I level my orc. I just got ganked by 2 rogues. If I was tauren I may have survived. Rip.

@joshuaroe1402

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ghost-fe1vp No, no you wouldn't have.

damnit Melderon now I gotta level a shaman :P I think I'm gonna go Troll because I plan on just healing dungeons and maybe raids... but really it's just a side project to do in my off time when I need a break from ranking on my hunter

I got a question !^^ is there a real noticeable difference between 2.6 cast time and 2.5 ? And reducing mana cost of healing spells by 3% and 5%? I mean I do see there is a 2% diff. but how does it feel like in bwl rushing or semi afk farming ?

HYPE!!

What a great discussion and resource this is. I can't count how many times I've come back to this guide for info. I did have a question on the spirit stat and can't seem to find an answer anywhere. I was looking through my old Brady Games official WoW guide, and it claims that spirit also increases the chance of our weapon imbue procs. Is anyone able to corroborate that info?

Bought to roll a tank Shaman in SoD

Great video guys! I'm angry everytime I hear "level a mage" for gold farm. You can do pretty decent gold as a shaman by picking up mining and herbalism. You can farm open world with those two professions and get decent gold (waterwalk mining+fishing in azshara also a viable option.) You can do solo jumpruns as a shaman. Even with resto you can do it in 20 minutes with good gear. It's much much faster if you are specced to elemental. You can solo gizlock and princess with herb and mining in maraudon too (not the best gold I know, but it's pretty stable). Thank you for your great content guys! I enjoyed this one a lot!

1:26:30 I'm certain you see both icons. One with a timer, one without.

Ghost wolf is good for WSG flag runs also you're immune to sap and some rogue abilities which work on humanoids only and pretty much that's it.

I lvl up as elemental. Ppl find it machoistic, but it is probably my only time I can love to play elemental. Just front load everything, and play like a hamstring warrior with earthbind totem. As a lvling dungeon healer, spirit stat helps alot when i lvling.

Hit was mentioned here.. dont forget about primalist leggings if you want hit also. BWL drop 2% crit 1 hit, but no spell dmg... mail legs.

@Blickter

4 жыл бұрын

The equivalencies I've seen suggest that 1% crit is ~= to 7-10 SP, depending on world buffs and itemization. Hit is ~= to 10-13 SP. That puts those legs at 24 SP low end, 33 SP high end. T2 legs and Flarecore are both well far ahead.

the wf proc have 3sec CD ? and how many following proc can we do ?

"there are those Enhancement muscles!" made me lol

@MellonVegan

4 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, our guilds closet enhancer is a bodybuilder and I (ele alt) am a strongman. The only other lifters in our group are warriors. Funny how that works.

Sick.

Great Video! Ty! But can you write some timings in discription or here please

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

They are in a pinned comment

Amazing video, thanks!!

Late bloomer here, lvl44 Enh Shaman, still rockin'da Ravager, (with success) so not really feeling a swap to Elemental... When does it become a matter of not "wanting-to"... But "needing-to" swap to Ele, viability-wise??? Cheers & Thxxx for the guides peepsels! .

in pvp enh sham tauren with earthshaker probably my favorite shit

@manimal9871

4 жыл бұрын

PippTheKid that does sound fun 😂

I have a question for theroycrafting.... Shaman tanking BiS main hand? Flurry axe with rockbiter? thoughts?

Do you lose much when you decide to not take tidal mastery?

Can someone help me out with 1 question.Dont know what the best faction for shaman class- Allience or horde in TBC patch, Ellem or restro spec I mean

What would be the best all around race? Not sure if I would be ele/enhance/resto? Troll?

I see plenty of guides showing "twisting" gear options, which are mainly int/mp5 items. Are these ever an option for enh? Am I just better off grinding 150g for a 2000 mana flask every week?

@manimal9871

4 жыл бұрын

TheBruuz it depends if you want to do low dps personally then you can use the guide advice, if not then you will have time spend the gold and time to min max like Holder recommends.

Im trying to find the part where they talk about WF totem rank 1 and the benefits for warriors beeing the extra rage they generate, over the AP for the hit with WF rank3.. Anyone can help me out with a timestamp ?

hey good vids like you'll videos

Fresh classic coming? Shaman 4 hour tutorial? I’m in

1:32:50 That's also incorrect. Earthshock deals more flat damage and you also profit from the plus nature damage shoulders.

Is it better for 1H and shield or two hander for leveling on a pvp server from 1 on. I like going ele till 30 then switch to enh playing like enhance the whole way through till 40.

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

2h is fastest by the time you are 30. I have an advanced leveling guide that goes through the number e

@Antmf712

4 жыл бұрын

Defcamp & Melderon TV ok great thank you

Can someone tell me the Weak aura he uses to allow him to see when to stormstrike and the internal cooldown is off would be amazing

It is my brithright for sulfurous, but if you make me use nightfall in raid that's fine I guess.

what does egrerious mean DMF int buff doesnt scale? it doesnt stack with AI and ROIDS?

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

its base intellect only

@kostastromvoukis5164

4 жыл бұрын

@@DefcampMelderonTV got it so its like 10 flat int which is preety much not worth the buff slot, thnx a lot!

now that its possible to more or less twink ur shaman by buying stuff from AH while leveling an alt Shaman. Wouldnt it be better to buy a fast 1h weapon with proc chance, that for example has a chance to cast shadow bolt on hit along with a shield? maybe not faster kill speed than ele but u can keep going forever without downtime

Speaking for elemental in PVE, if you try really hard you will top dps in average guilds and can be equivalent to the average mage in good guilds (maybe not the best in the world but the best on many servers). ZG (for me) is the worst raid, so far bc of the constant pulls and mana. BWL is better with a good grp bc mana stops being an issue. MC is a bit worse for me. Funnily enough, I excel at killing trash. Maybe bc by drink-walking I can just blast all the time, i.e. weave in chain lightning and earth shock. Basically, the difference between you and mages, currently, is probably as much as a flask. Maybe less. So it's definitely there but on a, let's say, 600 dps tank and spank, getting those 10% extra via the flask won't make or break your performance. Instead of bringing the 11th mage, you can have slightly less damage and more totems for your melees. If there is no compulsory use of flasks, a try hard ele may even be the best caster for a somewhat good group.

Where are the warcraft logs for these beasts?! :)

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

good point

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

they are there now

@Half_Finis

4 жыл бұрын

trinkets classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c6qJmgTD9Qv7jFtB#fight=last&type=summary&source=2

I'm goin shaman mane on hc classic - i wonder if these guys would switch up their ranking for enhancement shammy on hc .. because i think tauren blows troll / orc away in this game mode

Great video. Melee is french, it is pronounced māˈlā. google, define: melee, they have a sound byte.

imp ghost wolf is more a pvp thing for bgs. and can be usefull in combat to get into a hunter's dead zone.

Why shield talent when u go with 2h weapon?

i just said to myself, "i'll watch this later", im 45 mins in.

This was utterly helpful for me! I have a question regarding enchants for Enhance PvP: Holderhek mentions that haste (attack speed) is useless for PvP and I want more elaboration on why. There are Helm/Leg Libram 1% attack speed enchants in addition to 1% attack speed enchant on gloves. Does strength enchants really outweigh more white damage from faster attack speed or? And attack speed can help give more proc chance for wind fury since it’s faster hits, no?

Do druid next plz most meme class out of them All but one of the best if played by skilled players

holy crap, 4.5 hours long! ANY and ALL questions gotta be answered here shaman wise...lol.

Warriors/rogues/mages are the popular ones at school, jocks, athletes, cheerleaders and everyone wants to get in their group. Shamans are those kids who kinda just do their own shit but everybody still wanna be with them and hang with em🤣🤣

01:57:44 BIG BRAIN enh hybrid that is mana intensive and picks 5/5 shield spec over 5% mana, I know its shit tier talent, but if you're gonna be struggling with mana, might as well get anything to boost it, shield spec which is a defensive talent is a dud.

It's a stupid request but I listen to you guys a lot on Google play and this isn't up as a podcast. Is this something that can be added over there?

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

I will add it! My fault. I likely just forgot

@tenbutts

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I listened to it driving just now.

Fucking Holderhek the chad is heeeeereeee

Would you say the leveling guide here still stands for TBC?

@DefcampMelderonTV

3 жыл бұрын

No, I am going to make a new one soon

@SkarrGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@DefcampMelderonTV cool.

spent all my loot points on 8pc t1 thinking it was dank(guild de'ed a bunch of salamander pants, wild growth, and t2 shaman gear). turns out i just spam max rank chain heal and snipe with lesser healing wave anyway. feelsbadman

@mattek190

4 жыл бұрын

Awww how many MAX (3rd) rank chainheals u cast before u r out of mana ? Seems like healing power in t1 won't let let u * spam * ?..

any chance holderhek would have time to help me learn enhance? :) i could pay if needed

Just wanted to say, I whole-heartily disagree with the gear choices that Goodmood recommended for both MC and BWL. ToEP is clearly better than 23 passive SP and Natural Alignment Crystal is trash for PvE - it increases spell mana cost by 20% and everyone knows that a PvE elemental shaman's #1 problem is mana...

@Blickter

4 жыл бұрын

NAC is relevant on a handful of bosses - namely, Vael, always, and any single target boss if your guild is killing it quickly (~45s-60s). Anything that extends beyond that, TOEP is clearly better. With TOEP you need to factor in fight length. You get 9 casts of 175 increased damage = 1575. If you're using the DM trinket instead (23 damage), you'd need 68 casts to equal things out. That's ~140s of casting LB (you're downranking at this point). This is pretty easily relevant for a lot of guild's kill times, as it's about 2 mins 20s. There's additional implications if you're using cooldowns in conjunction with TOEP for short term DPS, as there is for NAC. So, fight under 1 minute? NAC + TOEP. Fight between 1 min and 2.5 mins? TOEP and Briarwood. Fight over 2.5 mins? Briarwood and DM trink. Obviously always use Tear if you've sucked some dick and gotten your dickbeaters on one.

@Swimming_cooking

4 жыл бұрын

As a side note... The Alignment Crystal is so good for healing on Vael. Half the fight you have 20% increased healing.

I am ready sad, that this is not on spotify, because the screen on youtube is always on. If i could watch it on spotify my screen could get off so I can listen it while my phone is in my pocket.

For some reason it really annoyed me when they couldn’t remember that the nef head reward offhand is an upgrade over spirit of aquamentus

"You will not be under the tanks!" Me. *laughs in fury/prot*

No time stamps?

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

They are right in a pinned comment. Been there since upload

@SpecialDetermence

4 жыл бұрын

Defcamp & Melderon TV oh saw em now sorry

You need to add some bookmarks to this video.

@DefcampMelderonTV

4 жыл бұрын

they are in a pinned comment

eg's mic is so loud tho :(

18:34

so funny that Holderhek dont care about other debuffs with using SS and mentioned the only debuff who a shaman profit the second most of it winterchill 10% critchance with frostspells

2 Math Problems: 1) Each point of weapon skill provides .1% dodge reduction. So an orc with an axe has a 6% chance to be dodged by a level 63 mob. (5% base dodge, .5% dodge per monster level above 60, -.5% dodge for weapon skill). 2) Yellow attacks can be dodged, so yellow crit cap is 94% + 4.8% from suppression. Still not attainable, but important to mention that yellows CAN be dodged even at hit cap.

@MacDaniboi

4 жыл бұрын

Dodge is not a factor.

Breh, invite me on! I am the #1 tank and dps shaman on my server.