It's a bit of a myth that it only affects people in their 50s, it's just that that's the point when it usually gets bad enough that people need help!

@texted8959

3 жыл бұрын

No one thinks that they might not have the energy they once did to keep it more under control.....

@sheenajae

3 жыл бұрын

He's not saying only, but typically.

@thecurrentmoment

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like he just said that was a profile of a typical hoarder, which I interpreted as trying to explain to people an image they can relate to, it that makes sense.

@jamespassas9441

3 жыл бұрын

@@texted8959 Very good point! Now that I'm a bit older, I find I have days when I'm very tired, and find it a struggle to even tidy up.

@Murgatroydian

3 жыл бұрын

As someone much closer to 50 than I used to be, I can vividly see how this becomes the case. A number of factors, but one that comes to mind is that it's often when parents become elderly and/or pass on, but also kids are growing up and moving on. It can be lonely limbo of abandonment for those predisposed to depression and attachment issues. There's a tendency to hold onto relics of the past that can't physically leave by themselves.

One thing that is helping me at 70 years of age is that I am aware that I don't have enough years in front of me to finish any new projects without finishing or discarding current projects.

@tool-nh8mk

4 ай бұрын

Congratulations please tell my inlaws that. And my husband.. i am truly at my wits end with them.

I'm still trying to get my mom to see a therapist. Growing up, she would pile up stuff in my bedroom and I couldn't invite friends over when I was in my teenage years (10-20yrs old)... Seeing her as a hoarder, I turned into a Minimalist at 18 when I left for college lol. All I have are my clothes, body care, journals/books, and electronics. I could easily pack up all my possessions in 3 suit cases. Everything else I can part with easily and anything memorable I'll put in a glass box and set it up like a trophy in my future home. Don't hoard, it ruins relationships and your time to travel to see the world. Your time is money, and when hoarders die, they leave all their stuff to their grandkids, friends or government to pick up.

@robinlillian9471

Жыл бұрын

So, I have to have all my possessions in three suitcases because you do? Extreme minimalists are just as obsessive as hoarders. One did a video where he bragged about the fact that his only piece of furniture was a plastic folding chair. Travel also costs money. Why should people not be able to enjoy their lives, because they might inconvenience someone after they die?

@TheListOf

10 ай бұрын

​@@robinlillian9471See a therapist.

@enclave6285

5 ай бұрын

I don’t think they said everyone has to be a minimalist. They said don’t hoard.

@Mrs.TJTaylor

24 күн бұрын

No one wants ANYTHING that a hoarder has left behind. It’s filthy, bug and rodent infested, moldy, obsolete, broken and otherwise ruined junk, usually acquired from yard sales, thrift shops, trash bins, dumpsters. . .In other words, stuff that other people got rid of in the first place. You can’t even recycle or donate stuff from a true hoarder’s home. It’s too far gone. People nowadays don’t even want items from their parents and grandparents who don’t hoard and who have kept their belongings in pristine condition.

@Mrs.TJTaylor

24 күн бұрын

@@robinlillian9471oooh, a bit defensive, don’t you think? And btw, I’ve never met a hoarder who “enjoyed” the hoard. It’s ruinous in every regard. And I think you know it.

My mother and her husband are hoarders. He pulls things out of garbage. He brings home broken things. He says the parts can be useful, or he says the copper or brass or whatever is valuable. Someone could use it someday. She goes after the freebies. If theres an organization giving away things shell send her friends and gets 6-7 of whatever it is. She has excesses of pots and pants in case she has company (yeah for 200 people maybe) she has a room full of clothes she never wears. everything in the house is just...there, no organization. They have stacks of platic kitty litter buckets in the garage full of stuff...no one is allowed in there. Broken clocks everywhere. Clothes that don't fit. Baby stuff (theyre in their 70s) and broken things all over the yard. Shower full of empty shampoo bottles. Exercise equipment never used. broken toys. Moldy books. and papers, papers, papers. Some of the stuff dates back to the 60s. I had to go to counsuling to deal with it.

When my ex husband collected more shoes, clothes, and books starting around mid-fifties, it was a nightmare. He tried to hide and diminish the problem but it escalated after his father died, also a great hoarder. Deep rooted insecurities, abusive and deceptive relationships,extreme envy and narcissistic personality disorders in both men. Control freak angry men. Never have I seen so many pounds of rotting magazines and papers and crap piled everywhere. They never believed they had a problem. It was just to be accepted with their “brilliant minds” Thank you for your exposure of this.

In my 50's check; obsessively collects clothes check; collects boxes in the middle of the room; go around to retrieve things from the annual council junk collection check; organise things visually and spatially check; collects new things still in their boxes check; I love the shape and colour and feel of things check; highly intelligent check; OMG that's me! ; )

@2Fennie

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, its not easy to part with something I might need or use someday, funny thing when I do need it I can't find it among the piles of stuff I have collected. I 'm trying my best to get rid of my piles little by little.

when you see the bottle cap and want to turn it into a magnet, when you see the tp rolls and want to turn them into art and crafts, when you buy "free clothing" and spend lots of gas getting to the places to pick up, and then you never make those crafts, use the clothes or make a magnet. When you see milk carton lids and save a whole freezer sized bag full, you know, in case of turning it into an upcycleing project, only to still have that bag 5 months later...

@texted8959

3 жыл бұрын

Creative over reach = Time management problem

@texted8959

3 жыл бұрын

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@texted8959

3 жыл бұрын

I can't see my comment...

@er6730

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. I get myself into this sort of situation every few years, and then I get tired of not being able to find what I need, which is the same as not having it! So I might as well not have it! And I get rid of most it. But bit by bit it builds up and then I need to go on a rampage again. I don't think I'm really a hoarder, but could become one. (No thanks!) I do have ADHD and tend to have more creative ideas than I have time.

@robinlillian9471

3 жыл бұрын

Dissolved Echo: What sort of craft project could you possibly make from toilet paper?

These people have suffered a childhood trauma. They have numbed down the event or have suppressed it so well, that they can no longer connect to it. Subconsciously, it is there, undealt with. They cover themselves in a blanket of things for protection. They suffer great anxiety if they have to get rid of anything because then their protection is gone. And they are left with that "hole" that they have been filling up for years. And they can't face it. Also, things have memory triggers for them. And to give things away that have a memory attached to them, gives them a fear of not knowing their past experiences that they had enjoyed. It would be as if they never existed. These poor people are in need of deep innear healing, especially because they can't make decisions about things, and they are hurting themselves. Hoarding is a symptom of something hidden.

@stonedNcreepy

4 жыл бұрын

Well, in some cases this might be true, but it's not true for all of them. I have a hoarding problem too, and I AM traumatized, but I know a lot of people who aren't. It's also known to be something that is genetically transmitted, so you don't need to have major psychological issues at all to suffer from this syndrome. It also occurs as a "side-symptom" of personality disorders like obsessive-compulsive-disorder or obsessive personality disorder that don't necessarily have anything to do with traumatization.

@atennyson4143

4 жыл бұрын

@Elaine McMurren you're a bitch... maybe not a hoarder, but someone who is nasty to others for no reason. THAT is a sickness, ya know, called assholitis

@aartlukaart463

3 жыл бұрын

I did chi-gong and 'saw' in a flash a network of protection in my system that shields me to feel the pain of trauma. If I 'ld feel the pain, I'ld go nuts.

@AA-hv2kg

3 жыл бұрын

@Elaine McMurren I have a ton agree with you. 10000 percent! #truthhurts

@gazXspace

3 жыл бұрын

@@stonedNcreepy your name does reflect that a bit sir

I think a lot of the cause of hoarding is that it is simply a response to a higher than normal anxiety level, especially going back to childhood. Hoarding allows to to exert a personal agency over one's environment. I wonder if anti-anxiety drugs or techniques like deep meditation would allow one to overcome it...

Never realized hoarding could affect relationships. I don’t have it. Someone who lives with me does and I’m trying to understand it because I have built up resentment toward them not ever wanting to get rid of things.

@Doyamn

4 жыл бұрын

Amanda Sanchez I hope you've branched out on your own and live the life you need

@Annedowntherabbithole

3 жыл бұрын

Can you see a connection between narcissism and hoarding?

@birdie9240

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s great that you’re here trying to understand this disorder.

@nevadatan7323

Жыл бұрын

It's admirable that you're trying to understand. As a hoarder myself I think it's a spectrum disorder that we don't fully understand. I myself hoard but can't understand why other hoarders collect the things that they do eg. Trash etc I would very much like to get rid of the stuff I own because I'm aware it's become too much and I don't live normally. But this is where the probs with OCD, ADHD are all connected. It's a neurobehaviroual thing whereby the rational thoughts vs the impulsive and emotional side don't sync up. I hope some of that makes sense eeep!

@whatbringsmepeace

Жыл бұрын

I have several hoarders in my family, all have had a traumatic event that appeared to trigger it, but the bottom line is that it's easier for them to love "things" than people, who may leave them or hurt them. There is no cure. Get out while you can.

I have this problem, seeing the vids on you tube shows me in can get a lot worse! I had a wake up call a few weeks ago as I fell down stairs and knocked myself out. The mess has to go and I am now filling a full size rubbish bin and full size waste paper bin every week. Items of value got on ebay, if they don't sell they go on a freecyle if not taken then they go in the bin. As long as I get rid of more than I bring in I should get there in the end.

@ajg4109

5 жыл бұрын

There's always someone there to help, ask about your local mental health outreach, and pick someone who doesn't make you feel uncomfortable... To talk to and help you.

@fondaflamingo

4 жыл бұрын

Come join us on Facebook!

@colidia

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you! It seems you are more aware of your surroundings and situation. perhaps in your case it was a temporary situation until boom! You realized it was time for a change. That's awesome

The obvious lack of ability to organize possesions is, in my experience, a reflection of real turmoil in a person's mind. Without addressing that disturbance the chances of improving how it manifests externally are next to nil.

@a1clam

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Dr. Frost is so clear and insightful about this problem. The most important takeaways for me from this talk are that this is a problem with information processing and an inability to organize. I would love to hear more about how these two vital issues can be helped in these situations.

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Very interesting to many of us who can feel the slight pull of these problems ourselves! 😎

There's different kinds of hoarding. Some people are deeply entrenched in poverty mindsets and they are basically deathly afraid of losing objects because they won't be able to afford, or will never be able to reacquire those or similar objects again. For these people throwing away things is basically impossible. Even if you tell them the issue and they are cognitively aware that this is the issue, and they know it's a bizarre response to the situation and that there is a Walmart 5 minutes away, they still might never be able to replace those plastic takeout containers if they throw them away and that means anxiety which they flee from emotionally. Another kind of hoarder is the 'it's not trash, it's useful' type. Very similar to the poverty mindset hoarders, except the impetus isn't fear. It's categorical. E.G. "Are you crazy!! That's NOT trash. Why would I throw it away!?' Another kind of hoarding is the ADHD / Dopamine addict type. For them 'it's not the having, it's the getting.' They go into OCD / manic buying sprees because they get some kind of joyburst out of collecting the next thing. Usually it's like a category of things. Such as pottery, or plants, or 'antiques,' or knickknacks, or dishes, or 'things that are on sale.' or some combination, etc. This kind of hoarder never stops the 'getting' phase, while spending next to no time on the 'having' phase which is organizing, decision making, getting rid of etc. so their space slowly fills up while they chase the 'high' of acquiring the next thing, even if it's the hundredth set of dishes. It's not about having the dishes, it's about getting the dishes. The one thing all hoarders have in common is they misappropriate their own time. What does that mean? It means they do things that no one in their right mind would do such as spending two hours hand washing and drying the recyclables instead of just chucking the containers in the can, or driving a couple hours away to buy a neat little knicknack for 5 bucks because 'it's the only one,' or going to seven different garage sales every weekend, or spending two nights a week dumpster diving every other garbage can in town because 'it's free!.' For me, it was the getting. I had 50 bicycles at one point. All of them broken. Not just bicycles, I had a three car garage full of stuff. And two storage bin rentals. FULL. Long story short, you have to decide what sort of person you are and then do what they would do. You weren't born with it, and you can't take it with you. You don't need it, and you'll be fine when it's gone. For me I just gave it away in my mind, then it was easier, because it wasn't MINE anymore, it was just stuff that had to go, and as soon as the pile was gone I didn't think about it again for one second. It was just gone and I WAS fine. I didn't miss any of it. I was totally fine. I have one bicycle now. It works. I can't tell you how much better I feel.

@janiceyoung5958

Жыл бұрын

Wonderful insight. Food for thought for me .Thank you!😊

@jenniferjuarez6622

11 ай бұрын

I am afraid of never being able to regain items I have thrown away. Waste not, want not. I just need a huge house with a triple wide garage that can be my shop.

@Ethericrose

8 ай бұрын

Your comment was welcomed, thank you. 😊 It's the getting for me. I love clothes, shoes, handbags and jewellery . I collect victorian jewellery, and I look at that as an investment for my adult children. The clothes are impulse buys. Altho recently I found a clothes donation station not far from my home and so I've been slowly going through my clothes and taking a walk to donate them. My mantra when sorting them is..." Have I worn them in the last year? If the answer is no, they I bag them up. I've also lost a 21 lbs in body weight, so everything too big is going. It makes me feel good to finally organise things. 😊

@aposematicayu

2 ай бұрын

I'm in this playlist looking for advice because my MIL is definitely a low-level hoarder. She and FIL are having health issues and NEED to move closer to one of the children (two destinations possible), but she has been dragging her feet about getting ready for moving because of the insurmountable clutter. She also does the reusable trash thing (packages, bottles etc), which I honestly do to and some people do, but the thing is she will do it to excess and then buy more of the bottles etc because she likes the drink (so she ends up with more bottles she won't throw out). She realizes that the clutter is an issue, but was offended by how much a cleaner/organizer quoted her last year. She wants all of the kids to come collect things because it's stuff that "we could use". We could use maybe 10-20% of it that are actually family heirlooms. The rest is junk from dollar or thrift stores that none of us have need for. And we have taken stuff off of her hands throughout the years to help, but she kept buying more. I've even refused items and told her we do not need them. Don't know what the best way to deal with this is.

I've been a hoarder since I was a teenager. Just thought I had a lot of stuff until my friends would visit and point out how much stuff I had in one room.

Lol, I just threw away a ton of magazines "I'm going to get to it later" that have been in my house for 18 years.

My sister has been a hoarder ever since she left home for college. she is only in her 30s now. I think it is a stress and emotion related thing for her. She tends to be mostly unorganized with personal belongings but very particular and organized about collecting trash to throw out. She saves loads of wrappers and neatly places them into a bag that needs to be thrown out like a chip bag and she will continue to stuff the bag until it is "ready" to throw out. It is almost as though she finds the state of her house to be hopeless so she organizes all the garbage she is throwing out to have some level of organization in her life. This is repeated this with many things like laundry. She waits until she has a full load of the same clothing item which can take weeks. She also acts as though something bad will happen if she does not do certain things this way- like her clothes will get ruined if she washes them together so it's a little bit OCD. Anyway I think the hoarding problem can be caused by other underlying mental health and emotional problems or a combination of several. I think it is important for someone like this to see a therapist to help with these other issues before getting them to throw everything out, making them feel worse and starting the cycle over again. Now if only I could get my sister to see a therapist...

@marunekochannel

5 ай бұрын

I hope she gets to see a therapist soon, is good to have a sister like you that cares and doesn't pressure her to just throw stuff, being there for her is so important, and minimizing the problem sure doesn't help. I'm in a similar situation of your sister, I'm in my 30s and also started accumulating things when started moving away from home, reading about her situation made me felt identified what you describe, she might have issues with perfectionism, (if you can, I'll recommend you to investigate about clutterbug organization styles, it helped me a bit, at least to identify why i lived like this when i tend to be really detailed when organizing) i do something similar i keep bags of trash everytime i try to declutter, but then they're never full enough to throw away, i got smaller bags so i can fill them quick and try to take the trash out at least 2 times a week... it might be useful if she starts in the smallest room of the house, i always do the bathroom, and everytime i do i feel way better, sometimes it gives me the push to keep trying in other rooms. it's really demoralizing living in a complete chaos, it might help her if she goes out more frequently of the house and does something that feels useful outside, if her house is pilled up with stuff probably she has difficulty doing regular mundane chores cause it takes a lot more of time and usually you feel exhausted just thinking what to do or where to start, also might help her do a list but for really small things like take out the trash once a week or do dishes for 15 min, when you start feeling accomplished at least it can cheer you up and sometimes could be enough to keep the mood up in the mess. I hope she can find a way out, i wish the best for you and your sister.

My mom loved saving shopping bags made of sturdy glossy paper, with the built-in jute handles. She was never a so called "bag lady",....and never lived on the street. But she had a sturdy bag for every occasion. If I visited her and was taking her food back with me, she'd have the perfect sturdy bag. We shop at this one gourmet grocery store, and "the food take-away containers" are so sturdy, I swear you could use them to build something else. The plastic is so clear, almost optically clear. The trays are micro-wave safe and could be washed and re-used a million times. Some are so large we use them to store supplies and small notes in. We store the cats toys, in one. I am glad my city has a robust recycling service. Before the early 2000s, many sturdy plastic food containers were NOT recycle-able. We hated throwing them away, so we hoarded them for a while. It didn't take long until we had hundreds of them. We donated them to an elementary school, for arts and crafts projects.

Having divorced from a hoarder from an eastern country what was difficult for me was that there were sayings and memes in his culture that supported his hoarding habits-- like never ever throw this or that out, " women who want to clean too much are squemish", and this or that thing "has a soul" ...how could I not recognize it, I too must not have a soul! Needless to say now that he is gone I can finally make an organized life for myself and my child!

I wouldn’t call myself a full blown hoarder but I definitely have issues with compulsive buying and clinging on to things. These videos really help me see a different side to things and I really don’t want to end up as a hoarder in later life. Thank you!

@aposematicayu

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for being proactive.

I find that I can’t stop buying things. I keep purchasing things that I think will be useful for the future. I still live with my family but I keep buying things for when I eventually move out. My room is tidy but I have a lot of bits and things in boxes. I can’t stop buying things because I think it will be useful one day. I’ve been buying cups and plates that aren’t to be used now but for the future. I’m worried that eventually this will become an issue. I do find that I’m driven to buy things/collect because of anxiety.

@SHurd-rc2go

2 жыл бұрын

Get help.

@nataliebutler

2 жыл бұрын

When are you moving out? Are these things that you will still like and will definitely use by then? Do you have more than you need already? Just a few questions to think about.

OCD and anxiety play a big part in hoarding. I was expecting lots of negative comments on this but nice to see there's a lot of understanding or questioning to help understand. Something I would always say is to never get rid of a hoarders items, whether out of frustration or by thinking your doing them favour.

@jenniferjuarez6622

11 ай бұрын

Okay, let's talk about the bottle caps. I am 70 years old, and only in the last year, I realized that I am a hoarder. I always focused on the worst cases where people have garbage , food, and animal feces all over their floors. I have too many traits of this to mention at this time, but the bottle caps interest me. I am extremely creative and I enjoy searching through the web site, Pinterest, for fun, unique, and new crafts and art projects. A couple of years ago, I came across signs and art on wood made of bottle caps. My favorite was a crab made of bottle caps.Bottle cap art requires a large amount of bottle caps, and of different colors. The only thing that kept me from collecting and participating in this art was the simple fact that I don't drink beer. And yes, I am fascinated by all the different colors and designs on bottle caps. This is definitely a bullet I missed, and thank you for helping me understand my most major problems. I will immediately quit fantasizing about collecting bottle caps. Thank you again.

@workboots9156

8 ай бұрын

@@jenniferjuarez6622 hey, don't get rid of those bottle caps, you can make little bitty boats out of them, says one hoarder to another.

thank you for these videos. my mother is a hoarder and it has literally affected my whole life along with my family. my dad is at the end of his rope and I am trying again to finally make progress on this and save my family.

@teresat2595

5 жыл бұрын

Melissa La Cour Why should it bother you so much?? If she enjoys hoarding then that's ok. It can be very upsetting & stressful for a so called hoarder to throw out their much loved possessions. There's no need for Family & friends to interfere

@d.dedrick7991

4 жыл бұрын

No, it IS a huge problem for the hoarder AND for their loved ones, especially as one ages. Serious hoarding situations make it impossible for emergency medics, fire, ETC, to safely get INTO a hoarded home in a timely manner, if at ALL, with their necessary equipment to DO their jobs, including, sometimes, saving someone's life, not to even mention the inevitable filth, rodent problems, & home deterioration that results from chronic hoarding. It definitely does concern family & neighbors, as well.

@danip2476

4 жыл бұрын

Theresa T maybe I’m wrong but you must’ve not grown up with a hoarder parent

@evelang182

4 жыл бұрын

@@teresat2595 Sadly, it's the de-cluttering brigade who hold the common zeitgeist. Maybe in Victorian days it was considered more normal to have a more cluttered home. Nowadays, anything less than plain white walls in a home that more resembles a clinic and you're classed as a hoarder. I knew a lovely, gentle soul who was constantly badgered and bullied and harassed to death, just because he liked to collect things. When he died, his grasping family was there trying to see what they could claim to sell, whereas when he was alive they didn't care about him at all, and a supposed friend who went on and on at him about his possessions, especially after reading about Marie Kondo's methods, made his life a misery when he wasn't doing any harm to anybody. And scratch the surface of some of the de clutter brigade and a torrent of hate and vitriol comes out, but so often the so called terrible and bad people labelled 'hoarders' are kind and gentle people and very sensitive. You have to remember the type of mindset much of society has nowadays, so geared towards the medical profession's ideas, everything is medicalised today. The only danger to this poor man I knew was not from his possessions, but the people who constantly bullied him over them. (edited for grammatical errors)

@SHurd-rc2go

2 жыл бұрын

@@teresat2595 It can become a severe health problem eventually.

Hoarding starts at an early age. As the hoarder ages, generally they move from parents home to an apartment then a home. The quantity that is saved grows along with the increased space they have to fill.

Exactly !!! I have stopped getting...I just can't dispose...

@tisapenfield5762

5 жыл бұрын

Wish we lived near each other to support each other.

I would agree the hoarding became an issue in my fifties but the need to collect things was always there. The love of boxes and containers started as a child.

need more on "information processing defecits"

I am a hoarder in my 30 - 40's. I definitely have difficulty getting organizing and getting rid of things. I never set out to collect things per se, but due to gifts from work etc. I end up collecting things like water bottles. I am terrified to throw out receipts and books in case I forget the information they have. I do clean and snake my bathroom drains because I am conscious of how messy hoarding is. I work nights and that has further deteriorated my ability to organize and make decisions. Perfectionism definitely plays into it for me. I do try to follow some aspects of minimalism, but because I revert to the extremes like the zero waste movement that further reinforces the guilt and shame of both keeping and discarding anything. I can wash and dry glass bottles for hours. Keeping the item delays the "wrong" choice of discarding something improperly. But I am not as deluded to think any given item provides me any further value than assuaging those guilty feelings. I also struggle to throw out Christmas gifts that I would consider useless knick knacks that bring no actual value to anyone on the planet, because when I contemplate throwing them out, I become highly resentful of the sister/friend etc. who gave me such an item in the first place and thus forced me into this impossible situation.

My dad was hoarder till he died.... He was a mental illness denier. He thought mental illness did not exist.

But that bottle cap tho

@Lisawhatshersname

2 жыл бұрын

I would've put it into a shadow frame. It was cool! What about food hoarding though? The difference between hoarding and stockpiling isn't always clear.

The aesthetic factor is huge for me.

Useful for hoarders family members, indeed. Thanks doc.

THIS IS HOLDING MY FAMILY BACK MY MOM IS A INTERMEDIATE LEVEL HOARDER AND MY 80-90 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER HOARDED TO THE POINT WHERE SHE HAD TO LEAVE HER HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ajg4109

5 жыл бұрын

Local mental health groups

In some ways though, it's a clever way of dealing with trauma. It's not drugs or alcohol or food and they can walk away from the symptom for long enough to work/shop/socialise. Unlike with alcohol or drugs that diminish you physically over time, hoarding doesn't destroy you physically. I@m not a hoarder! Honestly. But I am in my 50s and I did have a narc mother who eroded me, so I feel like I get this.

Excellent video. Impressed with Dr. Frost.

I'm trying to help a friend who is in her 50's and a hoarder who was recently told that she needed to clean up her apt or be evicted. We've had discussions prior to this about her attachment to things and her perceived comfort gained from owning so much stuff. I think our discussions are helping because she's starting to see her worth isn't wrapped up in these possessions, I hope this is a new leaf for her. Personally, I am the opposite in the sense that I do not like owning a ton of stuff, and clear things out seasonally. No, I'm not super organized, I do tend to clutter areas during busy times in life that can go on for weeks.

I think I am a hoarder as I pretty much share these traits. I'm not as bad as the examples above but I definitely have a hard time with organization. My lease is not being renewed because of this, despite cleaning my apartment up a bit. I can't seem to let go of certain things and it has gotten worse since my mom's death. I also have mental disorders.

@homebody61

2 жыл бұрын

You’re not alone.

@birdie9240

Жыл бұрын

Im sorry you’re going through that. I wish you luck.

Randy, thanks for the good overall synopsis, but you missed a key feature ... people often hoard to maintain tactile connections to fading memories. To throw something away (which maybe considered worthless) often has deep meaning to the hoader's past life, which to them must not be lost. The best help can be to encourage the hoader to move-on to a new future and let go of the past.

It creates a feeling of stability in a changing world. When we haven't faced the Past, moving on is scary.

Your videos are very helpful. No drama. Just good information. Thank you.

@IOCDF

5 ай бұрын

Thank you. Glad we can help!

I was talking about books with a friend. We both love to read. She said, " I only own this many books, on one shelf," and held her hands about 2-3 feet apart. Then I told her about my three bookshelves, 2 bags, and multiple small stacks of books. I realized I don't need and don't want this many books, nor this many of any thing. I am thinning out cognitively, and then will follow up concretely. She was an inspiration.

Glad to know I'm not the classic hoarder. I have 4 generations of precious items. I've barely bought anything in 12 years to get out of debt. Now I have money and don't want to buy anything. Goodwill here I come. And time to spread family momentos to neices and cousins. And last to the dump or first. No boxes, newspapers or magazines.

I gotta get rid of a bunch of clothes. It’s not in the middle of the room but the closet is full.

I'd really like to add that bottle cap to my collection...

thats true :( but i'm not in my 50's iv been hoarding most of my life , and im only 17. it take it too hard when i lose something im not ready to lose

@kannankichu1997

5 жыл бұрын

Same here. Heard about this in my psychology class. OMG! I didn't even know this was a thing!

@evelang182

4 жыл бұрын

@@kannankichu1997 There's a lot of things that weren't a 'thing' until the medical profession (pharmaceutical industry) decided to make it so because they have invented a drug to 'treat' it. Most slight variations in so called 'normal' personality are now given a label and a drug to treat it. Not sure how well they'd do with hoarders though, and often, it's just that some people like to collect things, and then labelled as 'hoarders' by those who don't and who don't understand collectors.

@N.DRC.

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. He should adjust this. If someone under 50 in denial see this...they'd be like...see I'm under 50...I'm not a hoarder.

Spot on analysis

Thank You Doctor for helping me see what I am.

I began collecting stuff when I was a teenager. I loved going through my neighbors trash. I would find cool cigar boxes made of wood, chromed sink nobs, buttons, parts of small machines. Broken pocket watches, misc. game pieces, small mint tins, tiny blue glass medicine bottles. Then I would go to stores that were closing, and buy random mannequin hands, and display items for selling bras, and socks,....partial legs and partial torsos. I'd buy creative shelving, and sheets of glass, that came from larger displays. In the USA, we have way too much stuff. Really well made containers meant to be thrown away, but so sturdy that it feels wrong to toss them out. I recycle a lot, and it does go away and is hopefully melted down and recycled. But I loved finding sheets of decorative pressed metal, meant to cover a ceiling, made out of copper. At one point I had a room full of mannequins, random mismatched legs and arms, torsos from every gender and age group. I collected mostly NOT working musical instruments, brass saxophones, silver plated flutes, guitars, a not working accordion,....bamboo flutes. If I could have,.....I would have collected large car body parts, I have a nice collection of hood ornaments from cars from the 1930s, 40s & 50s. I collected vintage men's ties,...from the 1930s through the 1950s,....almost all silk ones, all with designer patterns and colors. Later in my life, I built display cases for the ties, to show them off and protect them. But alas,....most things I collected are in semi-organized piles. I have a lot of free-standing shelving, and I have hung a lot of shelving on my walls, to show off my collections. One person's house I visited, had authentic snow shoes, made of bent wood and leather straps and a wooden airplane propellor , mounted on their wall. For a short period of time, in my 30s I collected prosthetic limbs. Early, mechanical artificial limbs, some carved out of wood, others were shaped tin. Before a retail store was being demolished, I would take away the old glass, neon signs, the housing and the transformers. A grocery store built in the 1950s, was remodeling and I took away all their interior light fixtures. They were huge plastic, shaped like rounded pyramids, with all aluminum arms and fixtures. If I hadn't taken them, they were heading to a landfill.

They see more usefulness or beauty in things that we wouldn't bother with because for them, it's safer to see that, than to see what's hurting inside themselves. And they don't realize that is what they are doing.

My sister-in-law is not in her 50s. She is quite young. Wish he would make that more clear at the beginning.

That was a pretty cool bottle top.

@NickSBailey

6 жыл бұрын

lol it was a good example to use I can just imagine putting that in a drawer and not throwing it out.

@nmartin5551

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too!

both my mother and father were hoarders, they died with 3 huge homes packed to the rafters with mostly useless stuff, the homes were filthy, moldy, falling down from neglect. they had bought them as upscale lovely homes.. any attempts on our part to help clean was met with stern resistance. they dragged stuff home from recycling till they physically were unable.

I like the bottle cap

The part at 4:25 is what I relate to. I see colors and patterns and textures that make me want to hold on.

My dad has been a hoarder long before his 50s, i guess it's a coping mechanism he's used to feel safer, by acquiring so many things he can't even enjoy his own space, and it's part of what's ruined our relationship to where I'm not interested in even having one with him at the moment (he's also emotionally abusive and yells).

My mom was a hoarder AND a clean freak...so, it was organized, to a degree...Within the 'little piles of stuff' there'd be the disorganizanized parts. That, mixed in with pretty intense anger-issues.....sucked to grow up around that, even though the bills always got paid and there was a house to live in....As a kid; I used to be happier while hanging out with homeless people, alcoholics and drug addicts. Then, became one of them for awhile....Until 12 steps and rehab, where it-&-I turned around...Being able to write this comment, is a really-big-step-up, for me....moving on...heh-heh!

This is my brother. He used to advertise to help people move and bring home what they don't want . Multiple bags, scattered paper work, my late mothers bedroom is a inside shed . I offer to help but my brother gets anxious and off hand and quite offhand .

My dad is a hoarder since childhood none of us realized that it could be a mental disorder. I am in my last year of bachelors and i have decided to do my thesis on this habit of my dad. while doing research and studying the symptoms and causes of hoarding made me feel really sad. Plus, I also realized that his disorder affect me in a complete opposite manner, I became minimalist. I hate extra stuff in my room bed or even on someone's else room.

Koh-I-Noor pencils, I love those!

Thank you very much really really

My mom has been a hoarder from her teens as well as her sister. Not sure why he says they accumulate things in the middle of the room, it starts in the corners and along the walls, underneath tables and behind furniture then it overflows until it reaches the middle of the room, last time I was in my mom’s house it looked like an ant farm…. That was 20 years ago, she refuses help and says it’s none of our business…. I dread the day we have to clean that out

For a while in the 1970s we were collecting 1930s, machine age designed, scotch tape dispensers. And Art Deco inspired kitchen tools like ice crushers, ice buckets, orange juice presses. People would kill to have any of the crap "the Fuller Brush men, would bring to people's houses in the 1950s. Letter openers, shoe horns, hair nets made of real hair, paper weights. Table top brushes and trays, soap dishes. Bosco brand chocolate syrup dispenser bottles. Hoarding is built into our DNA, it can't be denied or stopped.

Excellent video. My wife is a hoarder but does not want to accept it, ha ha.. Because of this problem, we have argued a lot the last couple of years. But problem solved, we got a bigger storage now, ha ha. She doesn't even want to watch this video or any other video related to hoarding. Her excuse is that she has to send a lot of this stuff to her country, which in part is true. She has been sending full big boxes, she has been throwing a lot of stuff, but still there is plenty.

@shapienails3067

6 жыл бұрын

I stopped myself from storing anything . You should add up the cost of the items your storing , then add up the cost to store them . It's not saving you anything and your losing money in the end .

@j12torts

6 жыл бұрын

This is my auntie. Ur wifes mentality is the same as my auntie. Always thinking about family overseas to the point she has neglected her own life. I hate hoarding because it puts you on the path to self destruction, poverty, health hazard, fire hazard. I hate it!

@cynthiaennis3107

6 жыл бұрын

Marcelo Saavedra Well GOOD for HER for what she CAN do!

@cynthiaennis3107

6 жыл бұрын

Shapie Nails Very easily said when you still have your family, your precious memories, your lovely home, your job, your purpose in life & money to spare! How lovely for you! Some of us aren’t so fortunate & were brought up by depression era babies, who...as parents...saved most things just in case they or a neighbor needed it! That is programmed as a child! If that’s not you! How easy!

My mother's problem was alcohol misuse. It inhibits rational thinking of all types and lead her to hoarding. How many can relate?

@shapienails3067

6 жыл бұрын

I was a spotless house cleaner , after my kids grew up and moved out ( single Mom) I kept everything became depressed didn't have them or anyone to take care of . Or see how dirty the house started getting . Started drowning my sorrows , for over 10 years , then my parents passed . My children told me Mom don't leave your Stuff for us to clean up ,like Gram and Gramp did ! That was a huge wake up call Ouch ======> to the Heart :( After a year I managed to cut my clutter in half , working on getting to a quarter of it left ..

@libbyadams7631

4 жыл бұрын

In my prayers.

@theurbanthirdhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

I believe they are comorbid, or simultaneously occurring illnesses resulting from the same traumatic life experiences.

@kevinburk1670

3 жыл бұрын

alcohol and hoarding are both tools to keep from dealing with an issue ithink

Some objects become artistic treasures. In some large cities there are shops that sell ephemera, usually pieces of paper with an interesting design, notation or cancellation mark (such as vintage train tickets, bus passes, passports etc). This is one type of collecting, similar to philately or numismatics. The key is how these things are stored away (organized neatly in boxes, books or files). Container Store or IKEA to the rescue.

@michellefarris3961

3 жыл бұрын

I love old postcards.

There are a few things on the list I don't do , hopefully there's still help for me .....

The acquisition part isn’t difficult once your broke as hell! 😉. It has to do w/GREAT TRAUMA, GREAT LOSSES of loved ones, friends moving out of the area, feeling disconnected from the others, losing one’s home, plus more types of loss to where you’re living out of an apt less than 800sqft after you’ve lived in a 2500sqft condo & your best friends of 25yrs have screwed you out of rent money, you have to sell your place & get half what your paying taxes on (2012)...taking care of everyone else first, enabling them while you end up w/bad credit after not only helping them to keep THEIR place for a year, put a roof on their house, calling it a loan that needs to be paid back soon, since that will become your rent money bcuz that’s how you were programmed & IDENTITY when you feel no self worth bcuz you’ve lost any you‘ve ever had in your life after being on disability so long you no longer have any fucking skills left to get the hell off of it...which, by the way, is not encouraged much, as there is a tendency to get kicked off! I’D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE ON BENZODIAZEPINES! DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT #?? HARD AS HELL...THAT IS...”BENZO HELL” TO COME OFF IT! NOT MANY EXPERTS ON THAT EITHER! Causes EARLY-ONSET ALZHEIMER’S, BUT DON’T LOOK FOR THAT ON THE LIST OF MED SIDE EFFECTS...EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN FIND THE RESEARCH! No...we ALL don’t save everything! Some of us just give the fuck up... . We just fucking give up on living bcuz there is not enough purpose, love, joy or money for any of it...unless it’s to go back to work in the “lets-make-them-more-ill” medical field! It’s a DISCONNECT from living life fully bcuz one can no longer do so, for whatever reason!

@teresaengland100

4 жыл бұрын

woo sad

I see you've met my boyfriend.

There might be a numerical count of items beyond which it is impossible to create any organization.

@gems8582

4 жыл бұрын

Extremely difficult but not impossible if one wants to stop hoarding behaviours. Some items to be sold, given away, donated, thrown away. Step by step, bit by bit, room by room, drawer by drawer, box by box, etc.

WE ALL NEED TO LIGHTEN UP, and give ourselves a break. Sure I checked the front door lock more than twice to make sure I locked it or I rechecked the stove more than once to make sure a burner wasn't left on. The times I didn't recheck the front door lock, at least twice,.....Well, one time I forgot to lock it. I have my rituals and they work for me. I know where my keys are, and that the water is turned off. I'm just saying,.....sometimes it saves the day.

The part of I might need it is poverty a driving force?

My mom is like that but she is SUPER ORGANIZED, everything is super well packed and she knows where everything is. Is it the same disorder?

If something doesn't have value, I trash it. The only thing people should hoard is money. That's literally it.

There is or was a store in Chicago, that sold all the old time trinkets that were inside of gumball machines. Tiny metal whistles, charms, rabbit foots, kissing tiny dogs, lucky charms, a tiny smoking monkey, tiny fake pistols and cannons, dice, peace signs, tops and yo-yos,....even naughty items,....like nudie miniature playing cards, and toy TV sets with nudie film strips inside.

It took me 20 years to realize, that my wife was not a necessary item.

My Father died a few months ago and my Sister and I have currently spent over £20k on rubbish clearance fees, probably reaching £50k by the time we are done, I implore you if you have this problem to please think of your loved ones you leave behind.

Explain to me Flea markets,..you ever go to one? You see people who have saved everything ever made. Door knobs, old keys, ash trays, baseball cards, comic books, hats, bow ties, hat pins, buttons, match books, bowling balls, door stops and irons for pressing clothing. Collecting and hoarding is a national past time. Dish ware, salt and pepper shakers, cups. Decorative wall art that was mass produced in every decade. swizzle sticks, hotel bars of soap, shoe horns.

my mom is a hoarder but she has everything organized. I know she's a hoarder cus she has a whole room full of clothes , has so many empty containers and brings home items that they throw away at her workplace.

Does the hoarder "collect", or can't throw away, or can't dispose of, or eventually does not care to dispose of?

I hope I don’t become a hoarder like that. I am quite messy and disorganised and have clutter and piles. It’s scary as you get used to it and you adapt as it gets worse, it becomes normal and almost like a cosy comfort. I don’t like mess or clutter and I’m always thinking should tidy it should tidy it but I just leave it. Keeping on top of the usual chores like laundry, dishes, bins sometimes feel a big task. At the same time, I do like to chuck things and charity things. I do like to see clear surfaces.

I might keep that lid, too. 🤗

"They save everything" Can confirm!

Excuse me for my bad english, I am french. I have a person I llike who is paranoid, who suffers from syllogomania, and who makes compulsive purchases. I have the impression that the syllogomania is the cause or the consequence of paranoia. The person I like is old, and falls regularly, she is in denial, for her, she has no problem. She rents premises to put more and more objects. At home, it's impossible to move. I am very worried, she puts herself in danger, what i can do? I would really like you to make a video on this on paranoia, the link with syllogomania and compulsive shopping if there is a link. Thanks !

I feel anxiety in houses that aren't full of stuff. I think people who don't have posters or framed art on every wall in their house, are the crazy ones. I was an Artist, and I was also a picture framer. I have many things on my walls,....posters, postcards, framed art. Small artifacts, like carved items, things made of rusty metal. I even have some of my vintage collectible men's ties, hanging on my walls. I have huge collages of photos, all snap shots, pinned to large panels of foam-core, mounted on my walls. I tape post cards, to my walls.

Do you think hoarding is becoming more common in our materialistic society?

@atennyson4143

4 жыл бұрын

Great question! I think, in a way it may be a subconscious reaction to this "SHOP and Toss"... world that we live in today. People seem to think it's perfectly healthy and sane to tear out a perfectly good kitchen... throw it in the land fill, and spend half of their retirement on a new one. THAT imo is insane.

@Doyamn

4 жыл бұрын

I think the word hoarding is grossly over used. People use it took freely and especially if you're not conforming to what THEY feel is normal. However , I think people (all people ) are collecting waaaay too much stuff . Always stuff coming IN the house , not as much LEAVING the house

@mildredpierce4506

3 жыл бұрын

Ama D, collecting a lot of things is one thing but when a person chooses their things over their children, their spouse, their safety or health, then there's a problem. Hoarders tend to be emotionally attached to their things or fail to see the logic in getting rid of them. I've been watching a lot of the show Hoarders here in KZread. Hoarders don't put things in a pile in the middle of the room. They fill their houses to the rafters with usually useless worthless junk that covers the entire floor. They almost never have a working toilet and their refrigerators are filled with rotten foods and bugs. Their hoards have caused their homes to be condemned.

So true

unfortunately my friend does this at 30 year s old. always makes excused and says hes gonna get better.

Hoarding really is the work of the devil. It tears family and relationships apart. My auntie is a milf hoarder but her room is getting to severe. I love her but i hate what this mental health issue is doing to her life. She needs help before a fire breaks out in her room and she cant be rescued.

My mom used to keep old stuffs at the kitchen/dining room or let cooking books scattered in my parents' bedroom. My dad had never complained regarding their messy kitchen or dining room. When I visited my parents' house and stayed there for few days, I like to clean up their house, I like to get rid off unused bottles, leftover food in the fried, etc. I knew after I did it my mom would complain to me, she just said few words, but not angry at me. When my mom forgot her few things that I had already thrown before, I knew I was doing right.

A big part of those who hoard have undiagnosed ADHD

Makes sense. How do I fix me? Bullet points plz.

@gems8582

4 жыл бұрын

-Go through your items and sort them into different categories: Items to be sold, given away, donated, thrown away, kept (you know you must be strict and disciplined on yourself for the items you keep). -Go step by step, bit by bit, room by room, drawer by drawer, box by box, etc. Best of luck!

@fondaflamingo

4 жыл бұрын

Join hoarder group on Facebook.

I suspect a correlation between narcissism and hoarding.

Terrifying. Because i know someone...

Is there an issue with doing laundry?

Do they ever feel embarrassed? Thank you!

@Tawroset

Жыл бұрын

YES!!!!!!!!

acquisition of things difficulty to discard things disorganization and clutter

Omg, that could be me!

???? I've known many hoarders in their 60s, 70s. My mom has been one all her life. It escalated in her 60s

This is true

You can actually make beautiful jewelry out of odd or pairs of bottle caps! That would make an awesome piece of modern jewelry! I have not done it, but others have & some look tacky & some are really very interesting pieces!