Civil War II #1 is Event Comics Excess - Comic Tropes (Episode 31)
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For the final episode of 2016, I took a look at the top-selling comics of the past year. The single best-selling issue was Civil War II #1. So we take a second look at the tropes of writer Brian Michael Bendis and also discuss the tropes of crossover event comics. In fact, there's so much to say, that we'll be back in a week to look at the overall Civil War II story and will discuss story structure.
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You know what's stupid. They could have fixed the Tony Stark character inconsistency with two lines "Um Tony didn't you shoot Banner into space over something he MIGHT do?" "Yeah and because we did that an entire planet was killed and Bruce went crazy all because of something we thought Bruce MIGHT do." BAM. done. Shows character development for Tony and explains why Tony would be against it. because the last time he tried to pre punish someone it backfired BIG TIME.
@giosbizarreart9048
6 жыл бұрын
that would have been good
@patoren3gou653
6 жыл бұрын
as a guy and two robots in space put it. "they. just. didn't. care!
@drdoomprevails1439
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@javialan2503
5 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. The editor could've easily thrown that in there but they were too busy honing for the smash and grab.
@comicbookrantz1263
5 жыл бұрын
That's why (in my opinion) it WASN'T out of character for Tony to be against it, even without added dialog. & that's why I felt using Hulk as the example was appropriate.
Inhumans AKA “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Mutants.”
@notoverwatch6991
6 жыл бұрын
Dan Williams Puberty mutants.
@Adam-hp2xg
6 жыл бұрын
Dan Williams more like I Can Believe It's Not Mutants
@stueygriffith4671
5 жыл бұрын
tv viewers can.... esp. after the first two episodes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhumans_(TV_series)#Ratings
@GeeMannn
4 жыл бұрын
They suck so much. I wish they were just straight up mutants, and if not, stop pretending to be mutants.
@paulakroy2635
4 жыл бұрын
@@GeeMannn inhumans are different than muntants. I think marvel just doesn't write them well
Bendis' dialogue seems as if it's written without any regard to who is actually speaking. The entirety of the Marvel Universe is just one dude expressing himself through multiple speech balloons.
@cruddddddddddddddd
4 жыл бұрын
This. Tom King is an offender for this kind of dialogue. I thought it was quirky when I first read Bendis many years ago-when he was more restrained. Now I cringe when I read it. Can’t do it anymore.
@danielgreen2788
4 жыл бұрын
its basically the voice of the editors waifus that want an golden apron to do the dishes
@Sammo212
4 жыл бұрын
This is 100% true. Bendis also loves to retcon stuff, even issue to issue sometimes, and he has absolutely no mind for continuity.
@kittyanger254
3 жыл бұрын
And 90% of mainstream comic writers do the exact same shit now! No characters actually talk like adults anymore. It's just obnoxious and alienating.
@BanesBasement
2 жыл бұрын
It worked for things like Ultimate Spider-Man, where he had free reign to make characters be however best fit the narrative he was crafting from basically the ground up. For 616 it just doesn’t work.
Bendis. Bendis? Yeah -- yeah, Bendis. He's, y'know, a hack. Hack? Yeah. Totally a hack. Crazy, right? I know. Yeah, crazy. Bendis. Bendis is crazy. And a hack. Oh my God! A hack? Yeah, Crazy. A hack, right? Oh my God! Bendis? Bendis. Totally.
@DemonicRemption
6 жыл бұрын
+SamGuthrie1977 LMFAO! xD I think I enjoyed this comment a tad more than I should have.
@vermis8344
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent writing! Have a job on Superman.
@patoren3gou653
6 жыл бұрын
and he is a hack because....
@DemonicRemption
6 жыл бұрын
+ToQ 3gou Don't expect an answer, because that comment is satirizing how he writes... Though in that regard the answer should be apparent...>_>
@patoren3gou653
6 жыл бұрын
oh, damn it i didn't realize that, i am so autistic
That whole "drinks are definitely on me" bit seems especially wrong from my perspective, since there's a story in the 90s Invincible Iron Man series where Carol nearly killed Tony while drunk and in her Warbird persona before blacking out and ending up in the hospital. Granted, the two reconciled and Tony ended up sponsoring her at an AA meeting after defeating Ultimo, but there's a difference between characters moving past a crippling issue of theirs and going "LOL drinx".
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
This. But its Bendis and when people point out his disconnect with continuity, they are usually right.
What's really frustrating about She-Hulk supporting Carol was in her 00s series, she was actually assigned a case where she had to defend a man who killed someone because he had a device showing the victim was destined to kill him. Jennifer only said he was guilty and only defended because she was ordered to but eventually turned the case on its head by revealing the victim and perpetrator were the same person (it's complicated).
@Oturan20
8 ай бұрын
Ah... Comicbooks....
What bugs me the most about the setup is that Carol used to have precog powers back when Claremont was writing her and Tony almost married a precog named Meredith McCall, and neither of those things are ever mentioned.
@patrulhadomultiverso5562
2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't there be some sort of office where they pay editors to help writers search for background and related stories? I think that would be so helpful
@patrulhadomultiverso5562
2 жыл бұрын
For me the biggest selling point on Marvel is that the universe grows without constantly being rebooted, this continuity and the interaction between characters make not only the comics but also the MCU universe feel alive
31:21 personally, if i ever became preident or editor in chief of a comic company, the first thing i'd do is mandate that any character that is killed off has to stay dead for at least 10 years in real time before they can be brought back it think that would make writers think twice before killing a character
@joeybebop
4 жыл бұрын
It's a good idea but I don't think you'd be able to get it over.
@daegan_ftw
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeybebop Editors in chief don't need to get things over, they are the person to whom things get over.
@Jesse__H
4 жыл бұрын
@@daegan_ftw that's only technically true, within the company itself. Who the EIC needs to "get things over" on is the reading public itself. We're the real Big Boss, and if we universally hate something you've done, your company will lose money.
@davidreyna7410
3 жыл бұрын
Thats really bold. I like it.
Characters not acting like themselves is usually my biggest story turn off. Doesn't matter what medium, if a character acts stupid/evil/unreasonable for no reason other than to create drama, I'm out.
@VincentGonzalezVeg
4 жыл бұрын
thats CrAzY man!
@wephilips6651
4 ай бұрын
This is why I love Kirkmans marvel zombies so much as it could have just been completely ott caricature or people acting randomly but I think he does an amazing job of keeping most characters in character despite the bonkers premise
All of your concerns and questions can be resolved by two very simple and obvious facts: *1. Bendis does not read comics that he does not write., and 2. Marvel editorial never reads Bendis's books prior to approving them*. It's the only explanation for 90% of the content Bendis put out.
@archmage7813
4 жыл бұрын
That is the only way I can figure out why he somehow keeps his job and is still one of the worst comic writers in the history of comics.
@hexum7
4 жыл бұрын
Sean Hanlin Nah, he’s one of the best- continuity errors notwithstanding
@galactic85
4 жыл бұрын
@@archmage7813 he didnt used to be that bad. I liked a lot of his early stuff. His daredevil run had cool ideas and there were some good issues of ultimate Spider-Man. I think the problem is that he got so successful so quickly that he didnt feel the need to try to improve his writing skills and then he took on so many different projects (both creator owned and for marvel) that he couldn't give his full attention to any single story so he got lazy.
@philatio1744
3 жыл бұрын
@@galactic85 i personally really liked usm
"Killing off characters" - I don't rememeber if I came up with that or if I read it somewhere: "In superhero comics, the Pearly Gates are a revolving door ..."
@wdcain1
6 жыл бұрын
I think it was a _Teen Titans_ comic by Geoff Johns where Raven takes Beast Boy to the afterlife and Garfield freaks out seeing the door to the afterlife is an actual revolving door though in the comic's defense, Raven says it's just the cosmos putting things in a perspective so he could understand it.
@LQuatorze
5 жыл бұрын
It's like D&D. A resurrection spell.
@JoJo-rm8lc
5 жыл бұрын
@@wdcain1 Do you know what the comic was I'd like to see the visual for that.
@wdcain1
5 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-rm8lc I looked online and found it: _Teen Titans_ (vol 3) #31. It's the second part of a two-parter where Brother Blood was raising the dead and had a team of zombie heroes he called the "Terror Titans" (and this was a few years before Blackest Night). I really enjoyed Geoff Johns' TT run and think it should be as well regarded as his Flash and GL stuff.
@greysky1252
4 жыл бұрын
Goku knows all about that.
I found this entire event to be completely and utterly pointless because this entire story made no sense from beginning to end
@SciFiFan2012
7 жыл бұрын
Tevya Smolka secret wars (2015) was a huge mess imo, delays, plot points spoiled in other books, crossover books with one or two panels about the 'event'..I am just burnt out on events that "change the earth/universe or character.... forever'!
@TevyaSmolka
7 жыл бұрын
i agree secret wars (2015) was such a miss opportunity
All this logical problems could have beed skipped by making Tony and Carol drunk again.
Couldn’t Ironman being the one to bring up the hulk example make perfect sense. Like he learned what not to do and that’s he motivation to “do the right thing”(great movie too lol).
@GuiltyKit
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they don't bring that up. This would be like if you put Hitler in a comic and just out of nowhere he's like yeah of racism is totally wrong. With no explanation for why he has suddenly reached that point of view.
Johnny Storm's always had a thing for Crystal, so not entirely surprising. He loves her to the Moon and back :)
It's crazy this was the best selling comic of the year and is almost universally disliked.
@seangentry2943
5 жыл бұрын
Crazy? Oh yeah.
@misterbadguy7325
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a lot of it comes down to the fact that the comics industry runs a lot on preorders. Read the essay "Shut The Fuck Up, Marvel" for a good down-low on how fucked a lot of it is.
@zachryder3150
4 жыл бұрын
@@misterbadguy7325 Thanks for the recommendation
@JohnSmith-ox3gy
3 жыл бұрын
@@misterbadguy7325 With a name tied to the Civil War, people had high expectations for sales and quality.
Bendis really does mess up characters. I remember when Emma Frost helped someone with facing bad memories and she said, "You'll wake up feeling like you just took the biggest dump of your life." That was when it hit me that he has a limited understanding of some of the characters he writes. Glad he's DC's problem now. lol
Chris, I think this is one of your best episodes. I've had a lot of time on my hands and have been going back through all your videos, so I've had a chance to see them as a body of work instead of just an experiment or an attempt. The content and tone of this episode is uniquely enlightening and engaging. I'd like to tell you why as well. To begin you obviously were interested in this book. Even though you don't like it in the end it's obvious you invested in reading it. Also, you have a great knowledge of both the lore and the authorship, which allows you to contextualize your thoughts, and you find excellent panels to illustrate examples. And you have a positive, expansive, taste that isn't cynical, or snide, and is secure enough to not take disagreement personally. That's totally to the core of my favorite content you create and I always look forward to your videos. It's always nice to find guys I met like 15 years ago at WWChicago are still making stuff. I always look forward to your episodes.
2016🥺... I remember the golden age of civilization. Your channel has been great to me during this strange 2020. Thanks Chris!
ComicTropes - you should have an episode about retcon tropes. She-Hulk gets angry about Banner's murder and Hawkeye's absolution from the crime and yet she offers her support in CW2. Stake of James Rhodes' death lost when he reappears in Punisher. I'd love to see the new Retcon Trope in comic writing these days.
I remember when *Infinity Gauntlet* came out in the early nineties, I thought, "Oh no, not *another* Marvel event!!" Not too long before we had *Marvel Superheroes Secret Wars* between 1984-85, *THE* original crossover event (and still the best) which went on to gain widespread acclaim, then we had *Secret Wars II,* which didn't really live up to the original's expectations. Then came *Acts Of Vengeance,* spread over many Marvel titles what I thought was a good idea (pitching heroes against unfamiliar foes they're not used to). When this came along, I'd reached event fatigue and decided to give it a miss (and we haven't come to the *Onslaught* saga yet!!!)
@justbny9278
5 жыл бұрын
Acts of Vengeance sounds really different and refreshing from Crossover Events since it doesn't revolve around Heroes but rather the villains crossing over.
@pookypoo1169
4 жыл бұрын
Wow how old are you?
@56postoffice
4 жыл бұрын
@@pookypoo1169 let's just say *veteran* age.😈
Your understanding of a comic as historical product is amazing! I'm watching all of your videos! Thank you!
If the original X-men were removed from the past and brought to the present, wouldn't it create some sort of time paradox? I mean, they would cease to exist in the past and so everything they accomplished would not have happened. Not to mention that they would stop existing in that timeline and only reapear in the future, so there would not be two versions of them.
@jimmyju76
5 жыл бұрын
Think Bill & Ted, only the victors plan would work
@lkcdarzadix6216
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you that's why - Bendis
@SimonBuchanNz
2 жыл бұрын
They were taken from the moment the original run was cancelled ('67?), and the period until it was reintroduced in 1980 has never been addressed or detailed at all as far as I could find. Free real estate, I guess. Note also that them finding out about things that would happen was a central element in the series this happened in: Jean Grey in particular was pretty unhappy about the whole Dark Phoenix thing, and refused to return (as you would), so it's not like Bendis just didn't think of this. And of course, the comic book answer "whatever, don't think about it" is probably the right one here.
@Eisenwulf666
2 жыл бұрын
repeat with me :" they're running out of ideas. " . Time travel has worked well in the past, the movie about "days of future past" did good, so we are doing it again baby! Also it's an excuse to not come up with new interesting characters and reheating old favourites again. Doesn't need to make sense, arguably it never did.
You made me cry, YOu deserve so much more exposer you just... your knowledge and your tact and just hte way you explain things. You got me back into reading comics again you're an awesome man.
I gave up drinking alcohol six years ago...don't think I'll pick up Civil War 2! 😄
Seeing this it makes perfect sense as why people claim Carol is an authoritarian.
The first real cross over series I remember was The Avengers/Defenders War and the Evil Eye. In the late 70's that story was huge, but it was fun. I don't particularly find many of the recent event books to be fun, but rather very convoluted and tedious.
This was a really nice video. Not just your analysis, but it really came across how much you care about comics and how much thought you give to the way the stories are written. Also that "whatcha say" needle-drop on War Machine cracked me the hell up.
I've been binge watching your content lately. Its great to find a comic book channel that just focuses on comics and avoids the drama.
Why are you not the editor-in-chief at Marvel?!? Great video, glad I didn't read this mess!
@ComicTropes
6 жыл бұрын
Well, it's always easier to criticize something in hindsight than to create something from scratch. So I give them credit for trying but I just think it needed more thought.
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
@@ComicTropes while that is most certainly true, I feel like Marvel editors in recent times have made a bad habit of not thinking through all the implications of character turns and doing it anyway because the plot demands it.
@Nocturne22
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe if he spent a year pretending to be a Japanese man to get around editorial rules+express his fetishism for Japanese culture without criticism, he'd have the job by now!
@philatio1744
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nocturne22 what
@lkcdarzadix6216
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nocturne22 dafaq?! Explain pls
In days of future past, we had Kitty Pride from the future. and Cable is from the future. Doctor Doom has future and Past selves. We have Dr. Strange and the eye of Om...Loki, Odin... and Weather reports seeing into the future doesn't sound new or even a big deal. So why have a war over it?
@kyriss12
6 жыл бұрын
zentrucker Because bendis saw minority report and thought “I want that”?
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
@@kyriss12 I mean you aren't wrong. But of course he also saw the first Civil War and was like "I want my main characters to be utterly out of character because the plot demands it as well..."
I had to laugh when 1. The Celestial had minions. and 2. The superheroes dropped the Celestial like it was a second rate supervillain. Obviously Bendis has only kind of HEARD the name Celestial, heard that they were kind of powerful, and though, "Hey. That would be a cool villain to put up against the heroes in my book!" without actually looking up what they were, how they worked, or anything about them. Celestials are so far beyond any of these heroes that nothing they could do would even be noticeable by them, which is why one having minions is so damn laughable. Also of note, the people who wrote Guardians of the Galaxy 2 also don't seem to understand the comic Celestials either because they seemed to think that Ego was one as well, when in actuality, if the Celestials showed up to judge Ego, he wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. These writers... (shakes head)
@kyriss12
6 жыл бұрын
BlackburnBigdragon If I remember correctly the celestials were such a big deal that they rarely made a direct appearance in the comics. You would the aftermath when they visited another planet, a few else worlds stories that ended in the complete destruction of the marvel universe, and a few near misses where they essentially hide and waited for the celestials to pass. They weren’t villains you fought so much as a force of nature you tried to survive.
@BlackburnBigdragon
6 жыл бұрын
Kyriss12: Exactly my point. Now explain to me why one just decided to spontaneously show up on Earth, with a bunch of supervillain-like goons, only to be easily knocked-out like "Glass Joe" in a game of "Super Punch Out". Yeah. Who wrote this comic again? Did he ever READ past Marvel comics? Did he KNOW who the damn Celestials were? It sounds to me that this guy just kind of, "heard of them" and "Heard that they were powerful" and tossed them in. The comic "Marvel Zombies" also had this problem too. They had Galactus show up. The zombie superheroes actually somehow knocked Galactus off of his feet, beat the crap out of him while he was down, and then ate him. I was like, "Um... what? Galactus is made of the Power Cosmic. These guys, zombies or not, wouldn't even be able to penetrate his armor, let alone his... skin... if he has... skin..." I don't know what it was with that time period of seriously de-powering Marvels entities of the universe to turn them into wimps that the heroes could just easily punch into pulp, but given everything that we knew about them prior, it never, ever, could have happened!!! What was next? Spider Man winning an arm wrestle with Eternity? Oh wait. Everything was gritty and ultra-violent back then. It would have to be The Punisher shooting Eternity, ripping his head off, shoving his head into his butt, cutting his gut open (because Eternity will have a gut... a bloody one.) and he'll die horribly. and The Punisher will say a one liner like, "My bullets are eternal!". And The Punisher will be drawn with 1000 times more muscle than he used to be drawn. he will be like the hulk. All veins bulging and teeth gritting... and he'll be wearing armor and weapons all over his body.
@kyriss12
6 жыл бұрын
considering how marvel is currently all about the lol randomness, eternity would probably be beaten in a dance off, and then hand her powers over to some black lesbian transvestite in a wheelchair. I should probably shut up before I give them ideas.
@BlackburnBigdragon
6 жыл бұрын
And there would be another thing. Eternity was a "He". Haha! When did the gender swap into "Sexy Eternity" (Because I know damn well that's what they did with Eternity if they turned him female.).
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackburnBigdragon he's just being a troll. But to answer your statement about Ego, the writers don't "think Ego was an eternal" they made Ego an eternal for the films because they wanted the concept to be more easily accessible to general audiences. They wanted the idea of vast and unknowable power to be closer to home and even in his home in Peter Quill's case. Having magical space giants just show up could be interesting, but at the end of the day they wanted to humanize what is essentially an inhuman concept while also connecting it to the main cast as opposed to something utterly divorced from them. In other words, its an adaptation. You know where you're adapting a source and not coping it beat for beat. New character dynamics are sort of the rule and not the exception. Plus I'd point out the fact that Guardians one foreshadows the Celestials at every turn. Nowhere is the freaking head of a Celestial and we even see one destroying a planet causally. And that's not even getting into the fact that Comic Ego doesn't ever seem as close to as strong as his movie counterpart., but the movie counter part also isn't close to as strong as other Celestials we've seen in the films. So my point ends up being, they're obviously doing their own thing and so maybe take it for what it is? An utterly divorced continuity where characters and events can and will be fundamentally different from their comic expressions.
"Hi, Im Chris. Im not an alcoholic, Im just hitting a lot of tropes..." "HI CHRIS!"
I just have to know "WHERE IS MY MINORITY REPORT?!"
@redhood7778
6 жыл бұрын
MUH CIVIL JUSTICE!
Bendis has cited Aaron Sorkin as one of his biggest inspiration for writing, specifically praising how he writes dialogue, and I feel like that explains a lot about his work
Your complaint about the formerly tough foes being whipped is why I love Hickman. When alternate Terrax shows up in New Avengers, he’s treated with respect a badass minor character should have. It’s one of my favorite moments of the run bc Terrax the Enlightened comes off like a total badass even though they eventually take him out. Edit: the Ulysses character and story would’ve worked way better if they’d scrapped the event and developed it over a period of time, finally coming to a head in a mini-event. But like you said, Civil War the film and all that. Ugh.
Great video my man, congrats on the strong year. I look forward to watching more in 2017!
A lot of people really didn't like civil war 2 since the main plot was in captain America that explained everything and they didn't let us know
@ComicTropes
7 жыл бұрын
Mario U I think any good story should be understandable within its own title. I'm reading all the issues and I have more thoughts.
28:00 sums up the entirety of Minority Report and CW2. The fact that there was no response spoke volumes. It meant, yes this story is about hero vs hero with no resolution.
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
So an even worse version of AvX.
It's that whole shoe-horned in story crossover Marvel seems to love of late. The pacing , set up and conclusion come out of nowhere, go nowhere, ends with little interest and everyone gets on with things, only now we're a character down for no real reason. It read as the quivalent of one person calling another and saying "We should meet up for a war, 8 o'clock good for you? Great, I'll round some people up. Gotta be finished by 10pm though as work in the morning. OK byeeee"
Bendis can't stick the landings. EVER. Great set-up, great tension, but the ending is ALWAYS underwhelming.
Dude your channel is so good - always watching for new content! 😎👍
Crossovers are mostly an engine for getting readers to check out other titles, other characters. It's a money thing. While crossovers were more rare, starting in the 1980's, once they figured out crossovers brought in more sales, it was on...
I love your videos, but I particularly enjoyed this one as you really give a strong opinion. Wish you made more like this..
Love your videos by the way. Really well done always
Great vídeo man, subbed
@ComicTropes
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
I mean to be fair on that Iron man point, if I survived a hulk beat down I'd think twice about messing with him again, so maybe it's just self preservation.
Thanks! I discovered your channel a little less than a month ago and right now it is the only channel I've been watching. I love even your older videos, something unusual for me. Thanks again for you amazing work! FYI, Marquez is a Spanish last name and it is pronounced MAR-kehs or MAR-keth if pronounced by someone from Spain.
Jim Rhodes and She Hulk weren't killed/hurt off panel they were killed/hurt in a previous issue: Free Comic Book Day Civil War II. Which is a different complaint/trope of event comics: important things happening in an issue that isn't in the main series or in an issue that is obscure . But killing Rhodey as a plot device to service other characters is crap. Iron Man's complaint that they shouldn't act on a warning of danger because superheroes might get hurt makes no sense (we're not talking about arresting innocents we're talking about guarding a facility from a robbery).
"It's my last episode!" *GASP!* "...of 2016!" *Phew!*
The celestial was a jobber, lol
great vid, and happy holidays
@ComicTropes
7 жыл бұрын
Lyric1235 Thanks!
You know this is a dated episode when CT talks about the Inhumans being pushed 2 the forefront because Marvel at the time didn't own the X-men film rights.
I appreciate that you made the statement ‘not that i know of’ when reffering to not being an alchaholic. Its refreshing to hear uncertanty instead of outright dismissal.
Re Marvel Pushing Everyone But FF and X-Men: I hate the nerd shirts now that are clearly covers of Secret Wars with the X-Men and the FF characters removed.
I have not wanted a beer in years. You are making me want a beer right now.
Captain America: “Don’t the X-men and the Inhumans have a conflict.” Beast being on the Inhumans: * awkward silence *
Oh my GOD!!! I haVent seen the 1987 "do you know *WHAT* your children are (mutie)" mugshot poster since at least 1990!!! That fucking thing was so powerful! I WONDERFUL spin on the knowing WHERE your children are Network TV bumpers any of us grew up with in the 80's! Great stuff. I always saw it and wished I could be the mutie!
Not sure how I found these vids but 'SUBSCRIBED!'
Nitpicking your nitpick: Spider-Woman can, in fact, fly, and Wolverine has clearly just been "Fastball Special"'d by Colossus. Not sure how Colossus is flying, though.
@unfortunateimperial6019
4 жыл бұрын
Colossus just flexes so hard he breaks the game engine like a horse in skyrim.
@ghuff31
4 жыл бұрын
he farted
Oh!! I remember the celestial scene back when i was reading deadpool!
I just clicked this because your hair looked unusually good in thr thumbnail
i, too, am old enough to remember single issues stories and the "one title, one storyline" approach to comics. all of this crossover, wallet sucking event style has turned me off of comics altogether. good vid.
Watching during lock down. I thought Civil War I had out of character moments. But it was a fun read overall. Civil War II was just plain bad. Hawkeye being the biggest mistake...but after issue #4 I gave up on this. Both Civil Wars read like What If stories. Didn't feel in-continuity at all.
We love you. Good night.
Brian Michael Bendis should write a Devil May Cry comic book. There he could satisfy his thirst for the use of a certain word.
@justbny9278
5 жыл бұрын
You really want a Rank C comic?
Here for the Rainer can. Love that beer, have not had it in 30+ years.
Interviewer: Do you think you’re an alcoholic? “I dont know. I never tried to quit.” ~Rick Flair
Also, the Steve Rogers seen here is HYDRA Cap. I'm still salty over that.
I know I'm super late to this video, and it's a small thing, but when Carol says "depends." And Tony replied "on what?" And they just stare at each other, I think Carol was implying "it depends on whether you can actually take me down if I do something nefarious"
Another fascinating vid, but changing the subject, is there any possibility of you having another look at 2000AD esp Judge Dredd? Your first vid on him was brilliant but IMO there's just so much to cover with this comic and its characters. Just a suggestion and please keep up the good work !!!
I think they need to hire a comic guy as one of the script writers. Someone that actually reads and remembers all this stuff to keep things straight. Writers only know their own stories, they don't read, remember, or keep notes on what was written before they came onboard. They need an outsider whose sole purpose is to keep all this shit straight.
30:42 as a kid i always found that so ridiculous. The greatest minds in the world can create pocket dimensions, invent sentient armor, etc but cant cure cancer. Hahahaha. All your videos are great .
Thanks for the comment on the alcoholism, you’re 110% correct they wouldn’t joke about that
@zaboknowsbest13
2 жыл бұрын
Not true
I’ve enjoyed much of Bendis’ work, but, as this demonstrates, he’s an incredibly careless writer, and neither Marvel nor DC cares to have editors actually do their jobs.
Another great video 🤘👍🇧🇷
25:45 great idea for a What If? What if Hulk and Ultron had a baby? ( it could be the female Ultron that Frank Cho drew)
Wait...Bendis is credited on that Illuminati cover. So...did he forget his own story?
@kelvinphillips7140
4 жыл бұрын
The answer is yes!
Bendis could have strengthened Carol’s argument by pointing out that the possible future that Ulysses saw didn’t happen because they acted on it. Moreover, by not acting on information that you know will cause people to die, doesn’t that make you complicit to the crime itself?
Hey what's the name of that song that plays when he is talking about war machine?
This guy got passion though
17:42, nice Age of Ultron allusion.
17:16 That moment when Brian Michael Bendis makes you wonder if you might be an alcoholic.
Waiting for the Tom King comic tropes, for me he's the one which the tropes are the most noticable
@ComicTropes
9 ай бұрын
I have an episode about his Batman run.
Everytime I hear of something stupid that happens to one of my favorite characters I clench my teeth, shake my fist at the sky and yell "BENDIS!"
Have you reviewed plots in the movies and video games like injustice 1 & 2
In re: to Captain Marvel and Iron Man joking about drinks on me? I am a recovering alcoholic and have been involved in AA since 2013. A lot of times me and some.of.the guys/girls use that exact joke on the way out of meetings. If we can't laugh at our frailties we give them too much power. Just a consideration I love love Comic Tropes
How Minny comics did exmutants first ten 1986 isshues sell ? Including the special isshues and the annual ?
6:50 except for Secret wars 2015 (an event I actually enjoye) which centered around Doctor Doom and acted as a send-off for the Fantastic 4
I think it was established that the past X-Men have been in the present for too long that they became a paradox so they can't be sent back. That's why this story doesn't deal with that.
I would have had Carol say that the Ultimates were combining some r&r and introducing Ulysses to the team and WarMachine was visiting Carol Then the kid has a nightmare on his 2nd or 3rd night in just when people are getting comfortable and high on the previous victory over the Celestial and to impress his girl it would be natural for Rhodey to volunteer for the mission
The movies have done, what, Dark Phoenix twice and Fantastic 4 origin two or three(?) times? Not sure they're looking for anything new or groundbreaking from those books.
@LupineShadowOmega
5 жыл бұрын
Eh, to that I say read Hickman's run of Fantastic Four. That was a recent run that reinvigorated the series. Let movies be movies and comics be comics. Because at the end of the day the types of storytelling on display aren't even close to being the same.
Sometimes something is so painful you have to laugh. As a person who is aware of both Iron Man's and Marvel's history, I buy it. It's a bit odd for the moment they're in though.
I actually like most of his non-story related but narrative related tropes, like characters repeating themselves, a lot of dialogue and not much fighting. It's an style that suits more grounded and character based stories, like Ultimate Spiderman. However, as I haven't read Civil War II, I don't know if that tone was the correct one for this event.
wwhulk was both reactionary and precautionary to the continued damage that hulk caused on a regular basis
Once a hero disregards civil liberties they are no longer a hero.
I missed back when you actually talked about tropes with your sticky papers
That picture is pretty funny because if you stop and really look at Kurt's face he's got this dejected and almost angry facial expression, but if you just skip over his face because he's less detailed standing in the shadow he has kind of a goofy face. XD It makes you have to do a double take.
12:29 I see the cover to Marvel UK Collectors' Edition Avengers United in the video.
Spider-woman used to be able to glide, but right before she joined the Avengers, she was given the ability to fly.