Owning a service engineering business on the west coast of Ireland, until I retired, these would have been the perfect vans. Most days Our vans would do maybe 80-100 miles with the odd day doing 140 and maybe a couple of time a year 190 so I believe this is the perfect van. The Mercedes van, frankly is a total waste of time far to little range for comfort. As I was VAT registered I’d reclaim VAT. We bought all our vans on a lease purchase arrangement so the monthly payment wouldn’t be that much more than an ICE van and was set against tax. The fuel, service and repair savings would easily out way the cheaper diesel van, for me it’s a no brainer.

@SRJCUSSEN

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Colin, good insight. You should get one for your retirement. I'm in a similar situation business wise. I'm on the south coast and travel as far as Belfast and Newry as well as all parts of Ireland. It's a no brainer for me too. All I want is a network of fast chargers (100Kw) and smart charging V2G at home/work.

I've done Amazon van delivery in the central belt of Scotland, that van would be perfect as a usual days milage would be 100-120 miles. One of the things I found most tiring about the job was the constant jerking motion of stop start changing gear and vibration, it kills your back and left leg which then get hammered running up tenement stairs 8 hours a day. I hear that Amazon are building a new warehouse near Glasgow this year with a bunch of EV van charging points, which will I'm sure be a nod to the environmental conference thats happening. Knowing EVs and vans I can say that it's a no brainer, but that will hold no water with your one man and van. The real impact will be delivery agencies that work for Amazon making people drive electric because it's cheaper, the drivers will moan and spit about it, but they will be singing praise after one week. And then all those ex agency vans will hit the second hand market, just in time for the bloke down the pub to see the sense in an electric van.

@MegaTpope

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned env200 for 5 years now I will never go back to diesel and I’ve saved a fortune

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the cost of ownership, need to see the sheet for it to see if is cheaper, and then the big companies will switch. Currently a 6 month wait for Peugeot and Vauxhall version.

The best thing about that van as with any electric van is you don’t have a clutch because that takes it’s toll on you over time.

I love the EV camper idea.

Excellent video, I've just placed an order for a Nissan e-NV 200 Tekna rapid plus with heat pack for under £300 Inc vat on a 24 months contract. Why 24 months, IMO within the next £24 months electric vans will have longer range and drop in price.

This vehicle for me is the turning point .I don't want another ice. Van

When I was multi-dropping for a courier firm, I would cover about 120 miles per day. The interior mirror is a one-size-fits-all thing, for the open-backed - (no steel plate), or the flat-back vans that have a window behind the seat. That van, of course was a manual shift - and once, bored out of my mind, I counted how many gear-shifts I did in a one-day trip, I lost count at over 2000!

@kevinwillis6707

3 жыл бұрын

i saw another review where the mirror actually gives a view of the road behind from the camera when u flip the switch at the back of the mirror.

For certain craftsmen it would be great if you could use the van's batteries to power a mitre saw or tile cutter. And yes, in and around urban areas these would be great for tradesmen and couriers alike.

@Brian-om2hh

3 жыл бұрын

I think the upcoming Ford Transit will have a 110v/240v take-off in the back.... Others are bound to follow suit at some point....

Great review. Good job as I already ordered my e-expert LWB 75KW back in November! Perfect for my business.

A column gear shift would have been good to give the middle passenger more leg room. Good video.

@2008tourer

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought, absolute waste of space there

Thanks for the review - it looks like a step in the right direction, but.... You mentioned that the 75kWh battery is about £6k more than the 50kWh. That gives a price of £240/kWh. Given that Tesla's battery costs are believed to be under £100/kWh, either PSA have got major issues with their costs or they're ripping customers off. That would suggest the battery pack in the base model costs £12k or of the £25k purchase price; at Tesla prices you could reduce that by £7k. And that nadger hazard of a gear selector; I can see why it's there for a conventional gearbox. It's a shame they couldn't do a different version of the dash for the EV version - better packaging would give an extra incentive to buy. Keep up the good work.

Electric camper van makes allot of sense since if using camp sites, most of them have electric hookup.

@jeta1f35

3 жыл бұрын

campsite electric supplies typically have limited output, sometimes as low as 10 amps, so at best you could only charge with a granny lead and there would be no spare capacity for electric accessories (kettle, cooker etc within the van) so fast charging on the route would be the answer.

@dcvariousvids8082

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeta1f35 - Many campers park-up for 2days to a week. Then walk/climb/frequent the pubs of the local area. And only occasionally venture out in the van. For those hours when they’re away from the van, why not leave it on a trickle charge and the next time they’re out and left the van, trickle it again. Rapid charge it when you can, fast charge when you need to; and trickle charge it when there’s the opportunity, (providing the site hasn’t got exorbitant hookup fees). But you’d know how much, before plugging in.

@MichaelEricMenk

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeta1f35 even if you never to set the EVSE to 6A, you will still be able to use power in the van. You have a large battery you can as a buffer. The 12 V battery is charged from the high voltage battery. So you get a constant supply of power.

@petecoventry6858

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but a lot won't let you hookup a car. You could granny charge it from a caravan however

@jenniferbrien3408

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevezodiac491 m

Definitely scope for a camper van conversion. Thanks for the excellent review, Andy.

Thought I recognised some of the scenery, spotted the cemetery at Cowling. Always nice to have the countryside on your doorstep

Nadger spladging. That's a keeper.

"0-60 is... possible" lol , great review. Agree with all your comments.

Very informative and honest review.

Yup. Need more commercial vehicles. Nice one⚡️⚡️👍

I have a LWB Vivaro-E. We’ve covered 4K miles since mid February together. Rapid charged 5 times due to needing to do a bit extra distance, cover around 130 - 140 miles a day on rural A and B roads. Once the weather warms up, I’ll expect more range. It’s perfect for me.

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for info, do you have a 50 or 75 kWh version?

@dataanalyst5704

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree….I’ve a Maxus eD3, happy with the range but can’t wait for the warmer weather to get more !

hi , i'm a multi-drop driver based in/around Edinburgh .. i average 1000miles a week , my 3.5 ton diesel van averages 30-35 mpg .. so this would easily handle the days im' in town centre ( usually 100-130 miles ) .. would struggle in my twice weekly run to Aberdeen

@barriedear5990

3 жыл бұрын

If you can charge at home on a 5p tariff, and can live with a 30-40 minute charge on your Aberdeen trips, would save a ton on fuel.

@ecok

3 жыл бұрын

1000 miles a week 35 MPG and Diesel at £1.20 is £155 a week (1000 / 35 * 4.54 * 1.20). At worst case 2 miles / kWh and best case Octopus overnight tariff of 5p that is £25 a week (1000 / 2 * 0.05) which is a saving of about £520 a month - which sits well next to the extra finance cost :) Lower service cost, brakes might well last 100,000 miles, and so on. Lower depreciation / better final-value too. Can't help you with the static time charging on your Aberdeen days unless you have something you can do at that time - emails that you would normally do when you got home? If so then maybe you could consider that is just time-shifted.

@888johnmac

3 жыл бұрын

a huge benefit for me would also be not listening to diesel drone for 6-8 hrs daily .. if only i can convince fleet manager

@samreijers909

3 жыл бұрын

@@ecok . Asking this as someone who uses the metric system I curious: Do you use MPG but show prices of diesel per liter in the UK? (Because of the 4.54 conversion in your calculation)

@mrclingford

3 жыл бұрын

@@samreijers909 Yes, we do. We're all mixed up!

Some of the country you drove through reminded me of Pateley Bridge, although I'm sure a lot of North Yorkshire looks like that.

Just bought one of the Vauxhall variants in the LWB 75kWh. Can’t wait to pick it up!

fun as always .....

Lots of really useful information here and good to see that at last there is a van available for serious use. My 1 disappointment with your review was the lack of information about the maximum weight that this beast can lug around. My company currentlyuses the smaller diesel Berlingo van with 850kg payload but they are now a few years old and replacements will be needed soon. As we are a printing company our vans carry mainly paper, this is a really dense material and means we always reach the vans weight carrying capacity way before we fill the volume.

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

All can tow up to 1,000Kg and payloads are rated at up to 1,275Kg regardless of size or battery.

My brother works for Royal mail and does under 10 miles per day. He uses the London taxi style vehicle ev. So no problem with range there.

Good review EVM.......🙂👍

Nice vid man👍

Just stumbled on this vid I love the idea of an electric camper van so gonna get saving and that looks like the van for us

@ElectricVehicleMan

2 жыл бұрын

Watch this fridays video!

@graygoescampin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleMan oooooooooooo

@ElectricVehicleMan

2 жыл бұрын

Or watch now as a member! 😉

@graygoescampin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleMan good plug 😉😉

Impressive.... firstly that you are one of the few KZread channels bothering to do e-van reviews, and secondly the Citroen van, which is a game-changer for businesses.... as long as they can price it competitively, which will happen once more e-vans become available and the prices fall. "Van-ness".... The new EV man catchphrase. Perhaps you should be awarding "van-ness scores".

You should review the Maxus eDeliver 3, the first ground up EV van available in uk, a lot cheaper, more range (213 miles WLTP City- the 52.5kwh), and CCS. Fastest 0-30mph I’ve ever done in a van. The test drive immediately made me change my mind from a diesel van, just ordered one !

@ashb8572

2 жыл бұрын

The eDeliver 3 has issues with charging speeds, on a rapid charger it only gets 22kw at times, it's not a viable option kzread.info/dash/bejne/oH5-rqeif6rKe6g.html

Nice van i work on building site i would need the 75 kwh because I do drive more than 125 miles some times maybe one day when cheaper but nice

The biggest demographic for the van is the central London delivery where it will save on the congestion charge

@iainansell5930

3 жыл бұрын

congestion charge exemption will be discontinued in 2025, for EV's...

@joetheprogrammer0

3 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 No idea how much the congestion charge is, but saving it for 4 years could be a pretty significant amount still

@metube9541

3 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 Plus there will be pay/mile charge introduced once we're all driving electric vehicles. Actually, it'll be pay/km. That way it can be raised more as with the gallon to litre con. Gotta, get that TAX somehow and the motorist isn't going to get away with it.

My immediate thought was campervan conversion... You’d need the long wheelbase version. Ideally, a Merc Sprinter/VW Crafter extra long wheelbase & extra high top version would be ideal 👌🏻👍🏻 You could have a colossal battery on both of those vehicles 👌🏻👍🏻

@2008tourer

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but real world range of e-Crafter right now is less than 60 miles because of 35 kWh battery pack- that's way too small! Also 40 keh charging only

@markhamilton7289

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevezodiac491 actually loads of rapid chargers up that neck of the woods. Much easier to put a charger in place than a petrol station.

@MrAdopado

3 жыл бұрын

You could indeed have a colossal battery but unfortunately that would come at a colossal price! That's the big challenge for camper van usage because the battery capacity is the most expensive aspect. Working vans with a daily predictable mileage are a much easier to judge. The cost effective approach (for working van) is actually to buy a vehicle with the smallest capacity battery that meets your needs rather than driving around with a larger expensive batter that's not used to its capacity very often.

Electric camper would be great but you'd need a high top version and need to make sure the batteries etc would be serviced from the bottom and not the floor at the back. Just at to allow for insulation/flooring etc.

Have to agree about the gear selector. I'm not a fan of toggles and push buttons for gear selectors. Citroen have a steering wheel stalk on their automatic C4 Picasso so why not have the same on the van? Keeps it out of the way of the centre passenger and doesn't need you to look down to see what you selected.

@dan123collins

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, gear stick on the steering column is the best solution. Saves space and you don’t need to look down.

"idę spać" (pronounced 'e-di spatch') is Polish for "I'm going to sleep" 😂 That's all I can hear when you say the name of the van. Solid review, as ever, cheers EVM.

It’s a very attractive van at that!! I had a Citroen AX Dimension many years ago. Good little car, but only a blinking supermini!!

Brilliant review. If they had push button or column change gears they could get rid of the plastic lump in the middle. It can get very uncomfortable with that kind of intrusion. I've had a few American cars with push button gears.

I believe you can already buy campervans based on the electric version of the Nissan NV200 van. It's a little smaller than the e-Dispatch (and its relatives) though.

Very informative and I always like to see you driving round Gods county ;-)

A grip wrench onto that selector and you’re sorted.

@Brian-om2hh

3 жыл бұрын

The only problem there might be it's French origin. It'll snap off......

@michaeltwomey9751

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Oooh, I like a good entry.

@dprice74dp

3 жыл бұрын

You saucy tart😉

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

Rear entry!

@diegomatter69

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleMan Good overview, but you missed the opportunity to explain the combined cost advantage of fuel cost savings + less maintenance in detail. That's what tradies won't do themselves.

Rear view mirrors houses some sensors for automatic lights and rain or radar on some vehicles. This isn't just PSA saving costs. My VW T6 has it too despite a bulkhead. Can't see why they couldn't just make a small slim box or remove the mirror section. PSA leccy van sounds excellent, waiting for the ID Buzz Cargo however. 300bhp. My next race van.

@dlittlester

3 жыл бұрын

Handy for checking your hair and lipstick too, I would think! :-)

@andymccabe6712

3 жыл бұрын

Standardised assembly........

@timoliver8940

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they should buy a licence from Jaguar Land Rover and fit their Clearview rear view cam system that can be specced on the new Defender vans

@mondotv4216

3 жыл бұрын

I think a rearview mirror may be a requirement for registration, even if it’s totally non-functional. Plus if you can’t see behind you, rear iew cameras should be compulsory. Especially on a van. Too many children die or are seriously injured in vehicles with restricted visibility when reversing.

@rattymcclelland

3 жыл бұрын

@@mondotv4216 vans that don't have auto sensing wipers and lights don't have the rear view mirror when specced in panel Van form. It's literally only to save money instead of designing a new sensor housing without the mirror.

I'm looking at the Peugeot/Citröen/Vauxhall van for my family In Germany and Netherlands you can get it in 50 or 75kWh flavours Respect to the van peeps that need panel vans, families are going to be a big market too considering the number of VW Transporters you see cutting around

Looksgood

The space below the heater controls must be for an eight track stereo.

people carrier versions are coming too ;-)

Most delivery drivers need to know if you can get two 40 inch x 48 inch pallets in at the back. A lot of times the hump where the back wheels are, make it tight to get them in without damaging goods.

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

If the derv version does, this does. Which it will.

@jur4x

3 жыл бұрын

Generally, all vans are designed in such a way that they can accept Europallete (1200mm by 800mm by 144mm). Even smaller vans have something like 1258mm between the arches.

@YS-cs8yq

3 жыл бұрын

Euro pallets are smaller, standard pallets are bigger. Having worked in despatch, you had to specify the size of pallets else couriers would send a van and you would not be able to fit pallets on.

Good review! I can't wait for a electric van but there not there yet. I do between 120/180 miles a day and It would be nice to do that with out worrys if iv got enough to get home. They need to do 200 miles a day normal driving.

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

So when you park up for lunch you rapid charge if needed. You fill up and same for the van.

The delivery vans are indeed becoming an important EV market.

They’ve got a winner on their hands, but where’s your Hi Vis???

@jur4x

3 жыл бұрын

And safety boots

I’m totally agree that you’ve mentioned that if Commercial EV is a tipping point. Range anxiety often controls consumer’s mind . Once range anxiety no longer on commercial vehicle, private EV will gain mass acceptance.

I like your mention of the reverse camera which you chose to not use at all. Just like me.

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

I had beeps and could see it was clear beforehand.

But can you fit a standard pallet and 4x8 boards/plaster - that is the "joke" - but if identical to the diesel then the answer will be yes

Like yourself I drive a model sr + but with NO home charging , but work round the charging problems. My day job is a service engineer for a large boiler manufacturers driving a transit custom high top permently loaded with spare parts. I drive anywhere between 60 and 150 miles a day in " fast as you can " mode this type of van would almost fit the bill, as you said except for the cost and availability of rapid chargers.

@iainansell5930

3 жыл бұрын

i'm emergency callout over night, i could get a job in oxford, then off to southend, with a 4 hour response time and nowhere to charge at home... i can't see my company buying a van for £34k when they can buy the diesal variant for half that price(they buy, don't lease and buy in blocks, so get quite a big discount- as far as i'm aware, vauxhall are not offering the same for EV vans..)

@MrAdopado

3 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 Clearly its "horses for courses" ... not every work situation is suitable for present vans. Emergency 24hr callouts looks like one of them!

Prices are crazy. 25kwh difference in battery size for 7 grand works out at about £280 per kWh at a time when $100 per kWh has been achieved from a manufacturing point of view. they aren't serious about moving electric models yet as they want to recoup the R&D costs for the petrol/diesel models. just dropped a load hitting euro6 regs too.

"A bit of wind noise". That'll be the bacon butties.....

Van is on a 2 year service life as well so cost less than £100 a year to service the diesel van. Tyres still fine at 30k miles.

I'm an electrician who travels between Bedford, Cambridge & NW London. I average 600-650 miles a week and have had my eye on the 75KW Vivaro-e for a little while now. The 50KW may be suitable, but I feel the larger battery would completely remove any range anxiety (now confirmed by your estimations). Hoping to be able to place an order through our fleet company in the next couple of months.

@ecok

3 жыл бұрын

Bigger battery also helps when you do have to fast-charge - you go further before having to charge, so need to charge less to reach destination :) Larger battery may charge faster too

@MrAdopado

3 жыл бұрын

It's worth stretching to the bigger battery on that mileage IMHO. Remember you are never running from 100% to 0% and you get poorer miles in cold winter. (I'm an EV owner and highly recommend the transition but you have to be realistic.)

The rapid charging is the key to open the market for this van this cant be under estimated GAME CHANGER electric vans are here:))))))))

So, £250 more expensive per month. Lets suppose £90 to fill from empty with 75 litres of diesel, that will take you 500 miles (30mpg in 2nd gear at 30 like the man that went by) and as you said 10% of the price for electric (if you can keep to home charging). Save £81 per fill up, so 3 fills from empty per month equals the additional cost. So if yo do 1,500 miles per month, or about 75 miles a day for 20 working days per month, the electric is cheaper. 75 miles is half the real world range of the £25k version so, a tradesman doing 100 miles per day would be in the money!

Electric camper van would be awsome. I'd love a camper van but the fact that I'd rarely use it makes it hard to justify. Having an electric one with far less costs involved like servicing and tax etc would be good, and I'd probably use it more anyway because it would be cheap to run.

One problem with vans is that charging spaces are not always that long and a 6.5m van would have its rear hanging out in traffic. Charging spaces will need to lengthen if more vans go electric. And I can’t imagine where big 7m+ Motorhomes will charge while on holiday. But things will change, I guess.

A camper van version of this would be a good replacement for our VW T5 camper. Might look into a diy version if they can supply the van with windows and no interior.

nice van 10 grand to dear

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

It needs someone to work out the cost of ownership, especially with clean air zones.

The Sun newspaper should always be stored folded and wedged between the dash and the windscreen.

..”in first gear doing 30 mph..” 🤣

i hope its more than 2.5m/kWh. My ENV gets about 4 in summer and 3.3 in cold winter. yes its a bit smaller , and has less weight as the battery is only 24kWh.

whats the range fully laden?

Can you do the range test then because my friend has an 75 kw one and can only get 160 miles out it

You forgot your hi vis vest

Good van review, if you include these items it would be a great review, in the storage area will a euro pallet or uk pallet slide between the wheel arches, max height of an item being slid in past the rear doors, does the vehicle have access doors on both sides or only one and can a pallet be removed from the side access doors, you might need to take your tape measure on the next review….😍..🚚

Great video and review, though save for range, didn't the Nissan 40kWh E-NV200 do all this? Rapid charging, similar space compared to the short wheelbase model?

@chargingabout

3 жыл бұрын

Charges up to 100kw (so will be lot shorter charging stops), and a bit bigger, wider and longer

Maybe the rear view is for other markets where the steel bulkhead doesn't exist, not required unlike UK, so they just left it there rather than remove it. I could see if it had a 90kWh or even 100kWh pack and they built it as a campervan style could be great for touring around the UK & Europe with possibly even other countries if the charging infrastructure was in place for it. But why only a 7kW AC onboard why not a 11kW as the Van driver, that van needed to be white so it fit in with the Top Gear White Van Man challenge :) , can plug it in for 30min on a 22kW plug and get a decent amount back while away having lunch.

Why do all vans not have a camera rear view mirror? They are dirt cheap these days. Ditto cameras for hgv blind spot (front right) and automatic braking for when they are watching porn at 50mph

@markhamilton7289

3 жыл бұрын

front left corner not front right!

Acknowledging other road users in a van! Disgraceful behaviour.

Hi Joiner here with some questions. I have the diesel version of this van and my manager has offered me the opportunity to switch to the e-dispatch. How nippy is this off the mark? Does the e version still have the volume control on its own stork on the right of the steering wheel underneath the indicator? Volume controls on the steering wheel just aren’t as easy to reach. Also great video, nice to see a fellow Yorkshireman tell it like it is 👍😁

Company I work for has got some Ford Transit PHEVs. Can’t understand why they didn’t go for this or the vivaro e when our average miles a day is 70-90 and that’s being generous...

I'm a water treatment engineer current van is a Renault traffic drive fully loaded all the time average daily usage 150 miles a day up & down motorways into Leeds , Liverpool & Manchester . Big issue would be charging as it's a company van so if I charge at my house over night who pays? I'm out 7am to 6pm most days and eat lunch on the go or parked on a street or customer site so charging every day during working hours would be a pain without good charging network. As I currently fill up with diesel 1-2 times a week for 500 miles of range.

@ziyaa2018

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of home chargers will tell you exactly what you've spent if you need work to pay. British Gas are giving the Vivaro E (the same van) to their drivers and I'm sure their staff aren't paying for their own charging. As for charging on the go. If you're doing lots of motorway journeys then it shouldn't be an issue - there are rapid chargers at every service station. A full battery in the morning + a 20 min top up will give you 200miles (with the bigger battery) and that's in the worst conditions.

Nice looking van, pricey mind. How does the payload compare with a diesel model

Does it have battery cooling or will it rapid gate ..... Plus what rate can you charge it at home / work 7KW or 11KW /single or 3 phase. Thank you very much for this video.... Can you please do a video on the running costs of your Tesla how many miles between services etc

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

Std is 7 kw charging, 3 phase is an option. The pack is cooled and heated and accepts 100 kw dc fast charging as std. Most will charge over night on a 5p rate. Think a video explaining the options an cost is needed.

Put it this way when electric vans are on the roads say bye to getting a charge as all the points will be so busy!

@gunleifjoensen3815

3 жыл бұрын

That will hopefully turn into a business oppurtunity

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully there’ll be more rapid chargers around. The local DPD EV drivers charge at home most of the time.

@Smartsparky

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirHackaL0t. I’ve noticed that actually. 😂😂

Jimmy Sommerville, is that you?

Well I think it would probably be a better camper than the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric!!

Having binge watched a lot of EV van videos this afternoon. This Citroen is way better than the rest, it’s in a different league compared to the Mercedes Sprinter and Vito. And better performance than the VW electric van.

@dataanalyst5704

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Maxus eDeliver 3. Better range, cheaper, better build quality, more creature comforts as standard….and it drives like a dream

Does it have a heat pump for the heater? I Already own a Peugeot Expert (1997) so I'm in line for a new one about now. I wish they'd go that bit further up to 90-100kwh so it really would do a reliable 200+ miles and have some left to run the camper (fridge, cooker, gadgets and heater), but that's too expensive for most people. This 75kWh is certainly useable if you mostly go to campsites. Still a bit limiting for off-grid usage.

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

Most EV cars don’t have a heat pump so the chance of finding a van with one seems unlikely atm.

No need to do a full on camper conversion; just install basic bed, fridge, cooker & kitchen units & you have a stealth camper, make everything easily removable & you soon have a handy van again.

AC power plug in the rear? I wonder what % of the battery it would consume running the Air overnight? Possible to run the Air while parked and charging? Possible to get some power into the battery with 500 Watt 48v solar on the roof?

@MrAdopado

3 жыл бұрын

From my own experience many (most?) EVs need a solid 1.4kW at 230v before they take charge I'm afraid. (Vehicles with rapid charging like this one do also charge on DC ... but that has to be at hundreds of volts.)

@12vLife

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MrAdopado Thanks. Seems the way to go is to find a way to upgrade the 12v battery often inside under the seats used for running in house systems. I'm wondering if that battery is Led acid or Lithium? Wonder if a 300AH Lithium would fit in the tray.

You didn't mention if they was any grants and various tax incentives for electric vans, could you cover those in another video?.

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

You get 6k towards it at mo.

Electric camper is a nice idea but as most campers actually do very little annual mileage I am not sure that it makes economic sense until the price comes down a bit, especially as new van conversions are already an eye watering price.

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking more of it could be used as one of the households cars as it’s cheap enough to run as one.

@gin9991

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleMan That could work as long as its under 2m for car park height barriers, it’s the bigger ones which are used less as you are limited to where you can go in them. Hopefully in the future the manufactures will supply an electrically powered cab and chassis that motor home manufactures can build a coach built motor home on. Actually there is a few few smaller coachbuilts that use Citroen Dispatches and their cousins for motorhomes at the moment I wonder if they’ll be able to supply an electric version of the cab and chassis to build on 🤔

Those jokes are offensive to van drivers because you don't use C and F and W words enough :)

Love them , because I’ve got breathing problems, they would be parked up outside their delivery places . Waiting,say , 15 minutes not chucking out chocking fumes like diesel vans 🤪🤪🤪

@12vLife

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, also the sound of big truck engines driving miles away during the day and hogging the roads. Imagine a world where EV semis barely make noise and drive overnight.

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

Think clean air zones! I can see the value of one.

Nice video, wondering what's it like on juice, with a roof rack and ladders.. Frank here..

@daiashthomas

3 жыл бұрын

Additional drag of roof mounted equipment would ruin the range I think. Until they can quote 400 mile real world figures, it won't serve most of the service industry.

@markeh1971

3 жыл бұрын

The extra drag at speed would be noticeable but need a back to back test to get the result. But if you need the ladders then you need them and live with it. At low speed it’s inertia that causes the loss, so for most it would be ok.

One of the big problems at the moment in making camper-vans or motorhomes electric is weight. I’ve a motorhome and it’s classed as 3500 KG. With a payload within that figure of 700 kg that’s for driver passenger clothes food water and all the stuff one takes with oneself when camping. If you add the extra weight of batteries that it’s going to be over 3500 kg even taking into account the removal of the diesel engine. 3500 kg is the maximum that most people can drive on a standard car driving license. Until batteries become much lighter it’s doubtful you’ll see many electric camper vans

@spondon1200

3 жыл бұрын

its only 120 kg heavier than the diesel version

can you please review the MG 5

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

COVID cancelled it.

The tipping point will be an electric hearse.

@GlynHudson

3 жыл бұрын

These have been available for years!

Like it. Interested in an EV van for my business. When you say real world range is that fully charged to must charge now or is it 80% charged to 10%?

@MrAdopado

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. It's not going to be advisable to routinely run the van from 100% to zero so you need a real daily working range ... maybe 90% to 10% .... so maybe knock 20% off the quoted range figures.

Are the batteries active cooling or air cooled etc. wondering on the long term condition? Of battery

Hi What’s your thoughts on an electric van for a window cleaner? I have a 500L tank for water fed pole window cleaning so there’s excess water on the floor of the van. There’s also inlet and outlet pipes through the floor near the rear of the van. I’m concerned it could damage the batteries. Appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks, Dave

@ElectricVehicleMan

3 жыл бұрын

They’re more sealed than an engine ever will be.

@davidkeen6184

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I’m definitely going electric next van

Great review But someone is taking the piss with that range