This video explains the hydropneumatic suspension system Hydractive 3+ on the Citroën C6.
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@sonnyse7en Жыл бұрын
This is just unbelievable. Possibly the most underrated car ever made 😮
@dosenwurst1012 жыл бұрын
I need a C6 in my life... It's not only the amazing suspension, it's truly beautiful too.
@Snek_1000
8 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget the time they had one at my local Citroën dealer. I even got to sit in it, amazing how luxurious it was for its time!
@jourwalis-8875
Ай бұрын
It is not as beautiful as the DS........
@saedebrahimi68137 жыл бұрын
When I was 24 years old I bought a Citroen GS from Nice in South of France and I drove it to Tehran then I find out Citroen is completely different and very innovative and superior therefore I wish I wish to do it again to renew my beautiful memories before I pass away...
@andrewstones2921
3 жыл бұрын
I will be driving from Ireland and through Iran hopefully next year, in a Citroen.. though it’s a Citroen C4 and does not have the magic suspension but it’s still very comfortable
@bandrma1124
3 жыл бұрын
You had great experience!
@saifullah3628
2 жыл бұрын
Are you still alive
@Ray_27724
2 жыл бұрын
I had a C6 and I have to say that it is one of the most impressive cars ever. The ride comfort is unbeaten and I believe that you memories remain for a lifetime, so for me. It is the best story ever, to drive from South France to Tehran with this car and shows that this car is a real partner in all situations. Thank you for sharing your memories 🙏
@sonnyse7en
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewstones2921 So? Did you do it? What’s the feedback? 🙂
@theraildynasty_5 жыл бұрын
This car has a really good suspension system, but the best thing about this car? It does not look like any other car on the road!!!
@Jan-se9gw
3 жыл бұрын
thats why i love citroen
@kacperandrzejczak1964
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jan-se9gw same
@alexandre007opa
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Peugeot or a talisman
@m4dc4t
3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a soap box tho
@lemonke3593
3 жыл бұрын
@@m4dc4t lol no
@blacquesjacques72397 жыл бұрын
the DS , The SM , and C6 are among my most wanted . I love Citroen . You rarely see them stateside .
@Ibrahimemre9631
3 жыл бұрын
You say "Among" thats kinda sus😳😳
@tyraela11512 жыл бұрын
Well the fact is that when the legendary DS was presented back in 1955 it took 10 years before RR used it and has continued using it under licence. There were many manufacturers that tried to copy that suspension but none reaches it. Citroen`s is still the best!
@jeshkam
9 ай бұрын
It's in many SUVs these days and probably better, but frankly after how many years?
@Halvomeister9 жыл бұрын
As the owner of a C6, I can assure you there is a significant difference between the Hydractive III suspension specifications on the C5 and C6. The C6 ride is more limousine-like than the C5. As Jonathan Price points out below, it's like comparing an E Class with and S Class - different cars for different purposes. Phillip Moran's below comments describe a C5 with seriously faulty suspension, the obvious clue being the 'leaking shocks' he describes. Hydractive III Citroens do not have 'shocks'; they have robust spheres that have service intervals of five years. With all Hydractive or earlier Hydro-pneumatic Citroens, if a sphere loses too much pressure or ruptures, the driver becomes aware as the ride immediately stiffens and feels quite harsh. You wouldn't drive a conventional car with leaking shock absorbers and expect a compliant, comfortable, or safe, ride so why would you expect more of a Citroen? Having experienced 5 Hydraulic Citroens over 35 years, none have ever developed leaks in the high pressure Hydraulic pumps or lines. I've only ever replaced one sphere, which hardly amounts to the description of a system that is too 'complex or expensive', unless of course you believe your cars should require no maintenance and you resent spending anything on them at all. My current C6 has travelled 120,000 kms without any trouble. It is solid, well sorted, performs strongly, and is extremely fuel efficient for a beast that weighs close to 2 tonnes. Perhaps Philip Moran's C5 has had an extremely hard life, been mistreated, or poorly serviced? Having owned a wide range of Japanese, German, and British cars (a few BMWs, SAABs and Mercedes Benzs included) I can honestly say that Citroens seem to suffer no greater a number of faults than their competitors and, as I said above, I've only ever replaced one sphere. Everything wears out eventually so to expect to not have to replace spheres on a Citroen at some stage is simply unrealistic. I've just replaced the shock absorbers on my E Class Mercedes at 155,000 kms but I'm not about to claim that this proves conventional suspension is a failure. It's just different. To understand a Citroen, you must drive a Citroen - and not just around the block. The capabilities of Hydractive suspension are simply world-beating, but they are only fully revealed after driving a Citroen through rough country roads, smooth highways and around cities. Then, the full range of the system's abilities are revealed.
@AlperAkbilgi
9 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@mickdick1138
9 жыл бұрын
i own a C4 Grand Picasso exclusive 2007 and the back has sunk
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
The MineCartKid With Transformers The C4 has conventional suspension, not hydractive suspension.
@mickdick1138
9 жыл бұрын
I know But the suspension
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
@103498170839624310804 At the risk of stating the obvious, this is a discussion about hydraulic suspension, not conventional suspension. I'm very sorry for you that your suspension has 'sunk' on your 8 year old C4. Perhaps replace the shocks?
@senor2509 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that Citroen are 10 years ahead of every other car manufacturer
@MrJeronimo94
9 жыл бұрын
senor250 You're right, BMW is copying this on their new 7 series, they call it Executive drive lol ...
@matthiasbretonnier4015
5 жыл бұрын
senor250 this is not an impression 😁😁
@callumhardy5098
4 жыл бұрын
senor250 Ha ha they were ahead in 1955! Lol
@sssharefff
3 жыл бұрын
@@krisg822 yeah but licensed by Citroen
@davidbt98
3 жыл бұрын
@@krisg822 Sorry but it was Citroën who invented the self leveling hydroneumatic suspension as well as many other stuff like self returning steering or the hydroneumatic assisted brakes, Rolls-Royce, Mercedes and others licensed some of this technologies from Citroen, not the other way around. Remember the Citroen DS was presented in 1954...
@PBS98774 ай бұрын
My parents had a CX and it was superb. Hope Citroen will bring back this unique system in the near future. Their design and level of luxury are second to none. Wonderful piece of engineering!
@walterzaugg675112 жыл бұрын
Sorry for my bad English. Since 2004, I'm traveling with a Citroen. Twice a Citroen C5 Exclusive. From 2010 I drive a Citroen C6. In all the years I had no damage to these vehicles. Citroen is the best you can what happened. Quality and comfort.
@pol125010 жыл бұрын
I have my c6 now for 4 years... and yes it drives really good BUT i also had already some repairs to do! I spend around 1800 € on repairs and maintenance during these years what is, I think, still allright. It is something special and it is just stupid to compare it to, for example, an E class. The E class has got a suspension that is at least 30 years old technologie so it is quite logic that it isn't as refined but therefor maybe a bit more reliable. Big citroen buyers are kind of special people... maybe we are a little crazy be we love them!!!! It takes a strong personality to drive these cars!!
@josecarvalho93884 жыл бұрын
The Last Emperor of Citroen!
@stephen10.11 жыл бұрын
a used C6 is very cheap now and reliable . time to buy it
@g00dfeeling8 жыл бұрын
Want this car.
@fredaydaybae8450
8 жыл бұрын
+g00dfeeling SO much want...the want is redic with this one
@dirkmuc14 жыл бұрын
I do not know if it is the best suspension in the world, but it is the best suspension I have ever experienced. By far. And although its softness the car is never "swimming". Since I own a C6 i am constantly checking the market to buy another one.
@VPPartner9 жыл бұрын
Both the C5 and C6 have sport settings to the suspension which make it a lot harder and help with cornering etc. The suspension on the C5 does not compare to that on the C6. It's like comparing an E class Merc to an S class.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Valid point if we talk about 1st generation C5. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXuKqruHZrS0Y7Q.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/pmWptpmDqZfgibQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5OemsGalMrSYrA.html But the 2nd generation (well atleast more equipt versions with bigger and more powerfull engines) has identical suspension to the C6. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWmT1qWNeruWZaw.html
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
I love Citroen for the good combination of special features and affordability. I would love to have an E65, but I can not afford even its fuel. Furthermore, with such a car I never dare to go camping, a scratch would cost as my Picasso, it would never let my drift (ESP and the rest of the electronics) and a set of tyres would cost like my Vulcane. So I have multiple cars for the different purposes and loves them :)
@montesa352 жыл бұрын
Now I need to buy this in my country with full of potholes and cracks
@arlind530d9 жыл бұрын
Citroens are known for their modern suspensions
@dickn.ormous1064
5 жыл бұрын
Not anymore.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly I have to agree. The cost cutting excuse. Read this: www.citroenet.org.uk/miscellaneous/abandoned/abandoned.html
@kjaersdalen11 жыл бұрын
RR did use genuine Citroen suspension in the Silver Shadow and Corniche. VW Patheon are now equipped with a bad kind of Citroen kind a like suspension about 60 years to late. CITROEN "SUPERB CREATIVE TECNOLOGY". I have flown in your cars since the day i was born in 1972 and i will the rest of my life - LOVE YOU CITROEN!
@GrigorisKontakos10 жыл бұрын
My father owned a Xanthia 1.6L. from 1996 till end of 2013 and recycled it because he also owned a Porsche Cayenne S 4.5 V8 from 2009 and he thought he wouldn't miss it. Recycling Xanthia was his biggest mistake ever. Still better on road than Porsche 18 years later. I had driven it and Porsche all this years. Way better automobile to travel the 400 km way to the village from Athens.
@amj76425
Жыл бұрын
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@chrisrpet10 жыл бұрын
even ROLLS-ROYCE use citroen suspension that meens citroen is one of the best cars
@Jk-oz5qn
3 жыл бұрын
No
@TeslaLiam
3 жыл бұрын
No
@John-ci2sd
3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore. Now if you took the badge off a citroen you wouldnt be able to tell if its a Renault, Peugeot or a citroen.
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
Thanks pal!!! I will ship it to Belgium, where I have business. I bought a few parts on eBay in the past, but some did not match. I will keep you posted. What car do you drive ?
@callumhardy50985 жыл бұрын
It all started just over 50 years ago with a goddess
@iainmclaughlan15579 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the hydragas suspension on my Austin Metro, hydronuematic suspension in the big Citroens looks clever.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed the case. Have you ever seen this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxrrq5wY73ZdZM.html www.citroenet.org.uk/prototypes/activa/activa.html
@Muushondje4 жыл бұрын
As a former driver of a Xantia activa V6 and a XM v6 I prefer the new Progressive Hydraulic Cushion system of my C5 Aircross. Le Roi Est Mort, Vive Le Roi
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
We used to have GS-A, BX, and passanger experience in Xantia back in the late 90`s, drove C5 I. generation, and I drive occasionally my uncle`s C5 Tourer (with sporty front seats). Months ago I also occasionally drove several new C5 Aircrosses and facelifted C4 Cactuses (at Citroen dealership where I worked for a while) both with Progressive Hydraulic Cushions. Just so you know I have some experience in that department. :) Conclusion: Progressive Hydraulic Cushions comes from Rallye world that Citroën once again cleverly modified for comfortable ride - no electronics as you well know (which is cheaper to maintain I suppose if anything goes wrong). Seats are softer than in my uncle`s C5 Tourer because they provide additional cushioning in addition to the suspension. On the negative side - those same seats aren`t designed to hold you as well in corners than those in the C5 II but they were never ment to either. But the real drawback for me is that Progressive Hydraulic Cushions lack sophistication of Hydractive 3+ and all previous generations of that system. and that is sad. I miss something like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxrrq5wY73ZdZM.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6qCqbCMe7KndaQ.html Even this simply does not compare: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIGTtbGQYtu3Z6g.html
@slipperyslope391210 ай бұрын
This is absolutely mindblowing.
@chicorompecabesa12 жыл бұрын
Nowindays we dont have Citroens in the U.S. We had it before. An Citroen SM in 1972. And I saw the oldschool DS in the streets somewhere in Arizona las year.
@villehayry42153 жыл бұрын
The Citroen Xantia was in -94 the winter test of TM (Teknikan Maailma) as best. Because of the handling of the car. When i was in traffic school, i had citroen Xantia -94. when we went to handling circuit i had my citoen slide and come to control. My istructor said= that's how french car should behave. Thats it
@Spurdospaerde692
2 жыл бұрын
To be precise, the car in the Tekniikan Maailma (FI)/Teknikens Värld (SE) "moose avoidance test" was not any Xantia, but a Xantia Activa, first produced in 1995. In addition to the "normal" Xantia's (and XM's) already great Hydractive 2 suspension, the Activa also had separate hydraulic cylinders attached to the anti-roll bars, which kept the car flat during aggressive cornering. This was the only Citroën ever made with this system. The Activa achieved the highest max speeds in the TM/TV test, beating not only any other mass-produced people-carrier, but also every super sports car that was submitted to the test. I think it still holds the record. Unfortunately, in 2017 the cretins at Stellantis/PSA/Citroën decided that steel springs and drilling a few holes in regular shock absorbers are good enough, so now there's no longer any cars with any hydropneumatic suspension made, and thus no longer any point of buying a Citroën over any other marque.
@egecan55233 жыл бұрын
such a refreshing video...
@chutac00911 жыл бұрын
I love it. Astonishing experience of driving this car. Only minus is getting new car. None will be as comfortable as C6. I also have new C4 and it is better than any other golf-class car. In comfort way mostly. I've driven latest Seat Leon and it feels like war machine compared to C4. It is too loud and too hard. And C6 is like melody compared to BMW 5 series(2006, not mine) and VW Passat(2008, not mine either). So, this car is, AWESOME!
@TheJabein12 жыл бұрын
Citroen has achieved something in automotive history that put the challenge to the rest of the world to contemplate with.
@AM4project10 жыл бұрын
So whats new Mercedes?
@antonioliguori99062 жыл бұрын
A parte il design del cruscotto, è perfetta, meravigliosamente Citroen !
@sotirisk2 жыл бұрын
couldn't afford it but a c5 thp with hydractive 3+ does the trick :D
@Crysomemoar10 жыл бұрын
To the ignorant few claiming that the "fancy suspension" will be expensive to repair. You couldn't be more wrong. I'm speaking from years of experience.... rather than speaking out of my arse (like a few of the people on here).
@Sherukka
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, I found that very funny too! In reality it is very, very cheap and much cheaper even than standard suspension to repair and you donut have to fix it nearly as frequently.
@TK42138
10 жыл бұрын
Both my XM's and Xantia had 100 percent reliable suspension. Only minor problem on my present XM was a perished rubber fluid return pipe on the front strut which popped off but that was all. I would rather deal with a suspension sphere on a Citroen than a rusty old coil spring on any other car. A good proportion of my work as a mobile mechanic was replacing broken springs on 'normal cars'. So long as LHM and filters are changed at the correct interval, these cars are fine. Quirky but not scary to work on.
@rui518
9 жыл бұрын
i am looking for more info, but how many times need this suspension to be maintain? what's the mileage to change spheres and oil??
@TK42138
9 жыл бұрын
Depends on the Citroen model and year. On Xantias, XM's etc with the green LHM, I would change fluid and clean the filter every two years but certainly more times than Citroen's original guidelines. The C5, C6 etc used different hydraulic fluid and control system with far more electronic components and supposedly a longer service interval. As for spheres - you'll know when they are failing because the ride quality suffers. On the BX, Xantia and XM, the spheres go rock hard and makes the car undrivable. A failing accumulator sphere will force the system to work harder and you'll hear loud regular clicks, groans, hissing every few seconds from the front of the engine where the accumulator and regulator is bolted to.
@TK42138
9 жыл бұрын
Never had issues with suspension on the two XM's or the Xantia although the rear spheres can put up a bit of a fight when changing them. Sometimes the Xantia and XM front strut low pressure fluid return pipe can perish but they're easy to replace and should be considered a service item. Yet to find a modern car that can handle like a limo or a GTi with just a flick of a hydractive switch.
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
Hi Samu, I LOVE the car! One can not get a better handling car for less than 40 times its price! The next better handling car would be a Boxster (25 to 50 times the Vulcane price). I do have some problems though, as spare parts in Israel are getting hard to find. In general, it is the best cheap driver's car you can buy.
@MatthewN56736n411 жыл бұрын
Yes I know RR used Citroen Suspension, which is fantastic because even they knew it was great. But since the discontinuation of those models RR has tried to create their own suspension systems to apparently "rival" Citroen's: something they failed at. And just to let you know that there is no such VW model as the "Patheon"? But what I do know is the VW PHAETON uses the same suspension as a Audi A8 which is just regular air suspension. Nothing to do with Citroen Suspension! Nowhere near it!
@anastasiabeaudry339911 жыл бұрын
Incredibly amazing! Vive la France!
@MatthewN56736n411 жыл бұрын
Yes it use to be used under licence by Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but they no longer use it. They have made their own suspension systems; all air-suspension based. But they still aren't capable of rivalling Citroen's innovation.
@f15f16ah64d8 жыл бұрын
maybe C6 have best suspension in the world
@carstenweiland7896
5 жыл бұрын
It has truly, bought one 2 years ago, still makes me smile every time I leave the Car. @@chrisrpet
@GamingBelgian
5 жыл бұрын
@@carstenweiland7896 how's the reliability and the maintenance costs? I'm also interested in buying one
@raffaelesilletti-rw4uk Жыл бұрын
Great car for suspension and confort, akword shape especially on the back.
@SPX34555 жыл бұрын
How is this suspension diffrent from the C5 Hydractive 3+?
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
The 2nd generation C5 adopted it. They both have the same Hydractive 3+. Driven it - my uncle`s C5 (II.) Tourer = sublime. :)
@lezbriddon12 жыл бұрын
I will take you reliability comments into account when i go out to start my 20yr old 3ltr v6 xm every morning... I must admit to have a load of engine issues a while ago, all electrical, and all down to a $2 relay, which was not made by citroen......
@beingatliberty11 жыл бұрын
Citroen the best suspension in the world for comfort and ride, but its all a great deal more likely to go wrong compared to the simplicity a spring ?
@christianbenvenuto69213 жыл бұрын
The latest evolution of Citroën hydropneumatic suspension. French engineering.
@neonman1604 Жыл бұрын
Which citroen is the most comfortable? One fitted with hydractive 3+? Im very curious to drive one, but also slightly worried thinking its suspension will spoil every other car lol
@dufonrafal
Жыл бұрын
C5-I C6 is the only one with AMVAR.
@turnbackcrimebotak62026 жыл бұрын
awesome
@Vangelis. Жыл бұрын
Some people want to drive a Porsche, I want to drive a C6 or a C5 with Hydractive III+ suspension.
@ashegheaty9 жыл бұрын
Is it smoother than the magic body role on the new s class and maybach?!
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
Haven't driven a new S Class or the Maybach
@zagyex
7 жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce licenses this so maybe yes.
@gvs37610 жыл бұрын
The C5 & C6 Corvettes used a single leaf spring that acts only as an anti-roll bar. It's only part of an independent multilink wishbone suspension. There are no other American cars that use leaf springs.
@traviss65644 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@LECLAUDIOUS3 жыл бұрын
Who would win One hybrid Prius Vs One comfort boi
@stayrospaparunas30622 жыл бұрын
Road is pupmpy Citroen:no problemo
@justjacqueline200411 жыл бұрын
I want one!
@KurnelyJr12 жыл бұрын
i can see that the suspension is very very sophisticated, because at poor surface you can see the body only move a bit
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
Part2, My total cost of ownership is way lower than ANY Japanese car and I did the statistics back and forth. 2 more facts, Nissan and precise steering are antonyms. I can not sit in any Japanese car for more than 15min unless you install me a customed Recaro / SPA / Sparco :) As for the Citroen, when I retired a 20YO ZX I took out the seats and made them my computer seats to this day:) When I live you do not find many cars past 20YO, due to state regulations.
@daveyr54622 жыл бұрын
I miss my C6 2.7 (Jaguar/RRS diesel engine) and it was the most comfortable car I have ever driven but my god the electrical problems...
@keyser414
2 жыл бұрын
27 jaguar rrs engine? its not ford engine?
@macdieter23558
Жыл бұрын
@@keyser414 The engines in the Citroen may have been horrible, but not THAT horrible!
@kristoffer3000
6 ай бұрын
@@keyser414 It was a Ford engine yes, the OP is just coping lol
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
I am "sorry" to disappoint you, I have 4 citroens for myself and my business. The newest is a C4 which is a shame to the brand. But the 2006 Xsara Picasso is a MARVEL, it is by FAR the best car of its category to this day (by far better than its successor the C4 Picasso bahh). I drive a 1996 2.0L Volcane and it is the best handling car under $K100, and believe me I know, I race Porsches 20+ years ago. I have K220 Km on the car and it is as tight as new, I pay good money for that!
@sbomorse9 ай бұрын
I would love as C6 as my second car. You can pick a decent one up for about £3K in the UK.
@Pertamax7-HD11 жыл бұрын
wew, awesome
@yorrickwi11 жыл бұрын
okay thanks i wasn't sure :)
@gvs37610 жыл бұрын
The Silverado is a pickup work truck. Not a car. Trucks use leaf springs because they are able to handle very high loads. (HD Silverados have a load capacity of over 900 kilos). Have you ever seen a dump truck with coil springs? Citroen has a brilliant history of suspension engineering. The original DS is one of the most innovative cars of all time. But the British, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Japanese and Americans have also contributed to automotive innovation. Modern cars are global.
@galil_6863 Жыл бұрын
I wish it was sold in Canada! 😭
@robertknoxyus90076 жыл бұрын
This suspension needs a revision after some years?
@benjamincharlin6770
4 жыл бұрын
Every 5 years
@AloanMoreira17 жыл бұрын
isn't the 1994 caddy the most comfy car? or the lincoln town?
@loffe9
7 жыл бұрын
NO!
@martian9999
5 жыл бұрын
they wallow. The Citroen doesn't
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
Lmao, fuck no. Most other european cars don't come close to the comfort of Citroëns hydropneumatic, so don't get started with american cars
@Elconbrioso3 ай бұрын
What a great looking car...I am assuming it drives as good as it looks. V rare on UK roads
@benedictroberts6783 жыл бұрын
I dread to think of the cost if this system were to some how go wrong
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
Good thing that the suspension is realible and robust and with a bit of care and maintanence the system won't ever fail you
@Garcia0618 ай бұрын
I wish i hadn’t got rid of my XM. I guess this is the only successor still on the road
@DimachkaS8 жыл бұрын
And if this system malfunctions in any way, youre left w/o a car?
@amopastorcanadense
7 жыл бұрын
best suspension aorund the globe but if it gets damaged....well, it will be as expensive to repair as one fitted on a Ranger ROver.
@burrliburrli
7 жыл бұрын
The mechanical parts in the system has been in use since the 1950's so it's very well tested, and the spheres themselves lasts about 200000km nowadays and costs only from ~40€ per sphere to replace. Compare that to the cost of replacing a broken air cushion, on let's say a Audi A6 Allroad (which does not lost anywhere near as long) and you'll begin to wonder why other manufactures even bother with air suspension instead of hydropneumatic suspension. Especially since they don't even get close to the comfort level.
@loffe9
7 жыл бұрын
Wrong! 1 Ive been driving oily Cits for 40 years and never had one damaged. 2 The spheres can be re charged quite cheaply, unlike expensive spring and damper sets. 3. Cit garages charge much less than Range Rover, Rolls or Bently, who use similar systems
@tyraela11511 жыл бұрын
You`re welcome. Anytime. :)
@faycallazizi374710 жыл бұрын
citroen suspension is the best
@sarasilve79343 жыл бұрын
ho una c6 , e' molto rigida , nonostante ho cambiato tutte e sette le sfere da una settimana , quando prendi un avvallamento ,non ammortizza per niente sbatte subito boom ed e' durissima , poi se la strada all'improvviso ha dislivello ,sbatte all'incontrario , cosa devo fare ,prima che la distrugga con una mazza ?grazie
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
ma la portate ad officine autorizzate..Citroën..?
@sarasilve7934
3 жыл бұрын
certo , evidentemente non capiscono un c...o della sospensione @@-R-I-C-H-7-
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
e quello è! meccanicucci della domenica...@@sarasilve7934 ci vorrebbe Edd China.. questi meccanici ,presunti,invece di sistemare ,peggiorano..
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
certo che la C-6 è proprio una gran bella macchina!
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
@@sarasilve7934 non distrugga l'auto.. per quello ci pensano già i meccanici..
@gvs37610 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Forgot to mention the Swedes.
@h8u4ever10 жыл бұрын
In reply to 2Str0k3: "How many 24 year old french cars do you see on the road still? None." Umm... my 1990 Citroen XM with 300.000 kilometres on the clock still works, in fact, everything works on it! I have seen a lot of 30+ year old Citroen and Peugeot cars on the road for the past 8+ years, I see most of them almost everyday! Just realize that EVERY single car on the road today needs maintenance! The only times your car breaks down is when you don't give a flying fuck about it! (i.e, you don't change the oil, oil filter, coolant, break pads and so on when the respective thing needs to be changed) If the only thing you do to your car is re-fuelling it, your car is going to break down any minute! There is not a single car available today that is maintenance-free! A special message to 2Str0k3: Fuck off you ignorant twat!
@amidshy
10 жыл бұрын
My 1990 citroen BX still works very well too :-)
@stephen10.
10 жыл бұрын
my renault 19 1.8 liters (1993 ) works very well too
@arlind530d
9 жыл бұрын
This is not entirely true
@blu1ine
9 жыл бұрын
i have a 1989 bx 1.9 gti and a 1994 xantia tct both with 200k+ km and they work fine, of course they need some attention time to time but any car with the same age would.
@arlind530d
9 жыл бұрын
Citroen geeks
@DGRWPF11 жыл бұрын
don't forget the train suspension. really, that's what they use in almost all their cars, even in the "sporty" mustang BTW, multilink suspension was invented in the 50's, 60's. They don't use that yet.
@ms_enj2 жыл бұрын
I’m not entirely convinced. This needs more balloons tied to fish…
@macdieter23558
Жыл бұрын
You should have driven one when they were available! A life changing experience!
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
Part4 However, if you survive this via de'la rosa for 10 years and your car becomes 30YO you may claim a special plate for "collectors item". You still suffer rushing the car for 2 technical controls a year but for close to no price (around $35 state fee each) the car's insurance goes for peanuts (10% to 15% of market price). BUT! There is a catch, you better do not make it your daily driver, as a no-driving restrictions on driving at rush hours (0800 - 1000, 1500-1700) is imposed on you.
@yorrickwi11 жыл бұрын
are you sure rr didnt just use air ride like mercedes has done for years?
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
If you type in Wikipedia Self-levelling suspension you also get this: "...In 1966, Rolls-Royce licensed Citroën's hydropneumatic system to fit to the rear axle of the Silver Shadow. At first, both the front and rear of the car were controlled by the leveling system; the front levelling was deleted in 1969 as it had been determined that the rear levelling did almost all the work. Rolls-Royce achieved a high degree of ride quality with this arrangement. ..." For the rest google Rolls Royce. :)
@mertcalc3259
3 жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce currently uses air suspension
@sanjanu16073 жыл бұрын
❤️👏👏👏
@superhipergoku10 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows is the best suspension but paradoxicaly it is going to be unavailable in the comming years in the market.
@nkt12 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Charlotte Green narrating.
@lonzosmith76183 жыл бұрын
doug demuro brought me here
@Jacu273310 жыл бұрын
What!? Give me some more info about it :D
@MatthewN56736n411 жыл бұрын
Also your opinion about how they look is all up to personal taste. It won't take they heart of many people, but it takes the heart of people who truly have great taste. It utilizes great historical design cues, and modern aerodynamic lines. It is actually a masterpiece in my eyes and I have 20-20 vision so don't start accusing me of poor visibility.
@kjaersdalen10 жыл бұрын
SUPERIOR!!!!!
@pauldavies94642 жыл бұрын
I had 3 CXs and they were great cars,at the time a lot of people were critical of them but if you ask them if they had owned one or driven one the reply was usually no. With the C6 it may suffer from the same problem,but who cares let them buy their euroboxes which will never be remembered as they lack any soul.
@GalmTeam11 жыл бұрын
Citroen's suspension is used by Mercedes and other premium manufacturers under a license
@TheSdzisuaf
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It seems that people are idiots. Instead of buying it cheap from citroen they switched to f*** expensive from mercedes. Thus making citroen to stop producing hydroactive fitted cars at all. I won't even try to understand this ultimate dumbness. Thanks for pointing out Mercedes license.
@zeuss19411 жыл бұрын
Unfortunatly, its the hard truth, most of modern french car are a pain to service and repair, older french car like the old AX or Clio did have there drawback but doing some a simple basic maintenance was possible
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
Part3, The state wants old cars off the road, local regulation makes maintaining a car past 20YO utterly expensive. Penalties include: 2 technical controls a year, sky high insurance, no towing insurance, no-low spare parts availability, parts self-import problems, extra emission test and constant hustle by police inspections. They want the car off the road and they make sure you got the massage.
@mjouwbuis11 жыл бұрын
Actually, Mercedes licensed the Citroen system as well. Most notably in the 560SEL.
@--Stewie--7 жыл бұрын
2:36 geldik
@jmcnu1ty
6 жыл бұрын
hassiktir be :D
@nemiroffvodka6716
5 жыл бұрын
ya :DDD
@ScottZ3704 жыл бұрын
Funny Citroen used to be at the top of their game with suspension and now they just make floaty dim witted SUVs
@j2fxxx11 жыл бұрын
It is a little funny to find out that you do not drive a manual transmission French handling car... I want a Xsara VTS Loeb edition. BTW, I visited the website you sent me and could not find the parts I need... I will have ot keep up with eBay.fr
@samados96911 жыл бұрын
You're from Finland, that's normal.
@MatthewN56736n411 жыл бұрын
Well Citreon suspension is the best in the world. Ferrari suspension is not electrocuted. It isn't that exclusive either, Cadillac uses it. It only comprises of magnetic particles. And Rolls Royce only uses a form of air-suspension. Citroen has been using this advanced hydro-pneumatic system since the 1930's. That is how far ahead of technology they were.
@mediamc23114 жыл бұрын
And fiability?
@akumu1721
3 жыл бұрын
Not incredible need regular maintenance but if she wasnt a commercial fail due to the conception time (the concept presented in 98 took 6 yrs to lunch the product)her poor marketing management only like 23 384 from 2005 to 2012 a disaster(someone has been fired for this)she would be selled way more for making it rentable and showing a refiabilised version otherwise a lot of them are pretty nice in fiability but the ones who have problems with call her the affectuously "C666" i bet you wonder why if its the suspension you beter get a garage or come dirrectly to Citroën
@tyraela11511 жыл бұрын
Dream on. This is Citroen`s suspension. Bose made approximation of it but Citroen was the 1st back in the 50`s. This is the 3rd generation and slightly improved - Hydroactive 3+. Get your facts straight and check before you write something you know nothing about.
@vjucker12 жыл бұрын
I've bought mine 6 month ago and it is a fantastic car! the most confortable i eve had...And i Owned a Lexus GS300 before
@motanelustelistu11 жыл бұрын
No.You don't have to dream.Go to a dealer and take it to a test drive :P That won't be a dream i assure you :P
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This is just unbelievable. Possibly the most underrated car ever made 😮
I need a C6 in my life... It's not only the amazing suspension, it's truly beautiful too.
@Snek_1000
8 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget the time they had one at my local Citroën dealer. I even got to sit in it, amazing how luxurious it was for its time!
@jourwalis-8875
Ай бұрын
It is not as beautiful as the DS........
When I was 24 years old I bought a Citroen GS from Nice in South of France and I drove it to Tehran then I find out Citroen is completely different and very innovative and superior therefore I wish I wish to do it again to renew my beautiful memories before I pass away...
@andrewstones2921
3 жыл бұрын
I will be driving from Ireland and through Iran hopefully next year, in a Citroen.. though it’s a Citroen C4 and does not have the magic suspension but it’s still very comfortable
@bandrma1124
3 жыл бұрын
You had great experience!
@saifullah3628
2 жыл бұрын
Are you still alive
@Ray_27724
2 жыл бұрын
I had a C6 and I have to say that it is one of the most impressive cars ever. The ride comfort is unbeaten and I believe that you memories remain for a lifetime, so for me. It is the best story ever, to drive from South France to Tehran with this car and shows that this car is a real partner in all situations. Thank you for sharing your memories 🙏
@sonnyse7en
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewstones2921 So? Did you do it? What’s the feedback? 🙂
This car has a really good suspension system, but the best thing about this car? It does not look like any other car on the road!!!
@Jan-se9gw
3 жыл бұрын
thats why i love citroen
@kacperandrzejczak1964
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jan-se9gw same
@alexandre007opa
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Peugeot or a talisman
@m4dc4t
3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a soap box tho
@lemonke3593
3 жыл бұрын
@@m4dc4t lol no
the DS , The SM , and C6 are among my most wanted . I love Citroen . You rarely see them stateside .
@Ibrahimemre9631
3 жыл бұрын
You say "Among" thats kinda sus😳😳
Well the fact is that when the legendary DS was presented back in 1955 it took 10 years before RR used it and has continued using it under licence. There were many manufacturers that tried to copy that suspension but none reaches it. Citroen`s is still the best!
@jeshkam
9 ай бұрын
It's in many SUVs these days and probably better, but frankly after how many years?
As the owner of a C6, I can assure you there is a significant difference between the Hydractive III suspension specifications on the C5 and C6. The C6 ride is more limousine-like than the C5. As Jonathan Price points out below, it's like comparing an E Class with and S Class - different cars for different purposes. Phillip Moran's below comments describe a C5 with seriously faulty suspension, the obvious clue being the 'leaking shocks' he describes. Hydractive III Citroens do not have 'shocks'; they have robust spheres that have service intervals of five years. With all Hydractive or earlier Hydro-pneumatic Citroens, if a sphere loses too much pressure or ruptures, the driver becomes aware as the ride immediately stiffens and feels quite harsh. You wouldn't drive a conventional car with leaking shock absorbers and expect a compliant, comfortable, or safe, ride so why would you expect more of a Citroen? Having experienced 5 Hydraulic Citroens over 35 years, none have ever developed leaks in the high pressure Hydraulic pumps or lines. I've only ever replaced one sphere, which hardly amounts to the description of a system that is too 'complex or expensive', unless of course you believe your cars should require no maintenance and you resent spending anything on them at all. My current C6 has travelled 120,000 kms without any trouble. It is solid, well sorted, performs strongly, and is extremely fuel efficient for a beast that weighs close to 2 tonnes. Perhaps Philip Moran's C5 has had an extremely hard life, been mistreated, or poorly serviced? Having owned a wide range of Japanese, German, and British cars (a few BMWs, SAABs and Mercedes Benzs included) I can honestly say that Citroens seem to suffer no greater a number of faults than their competitors and, as I said above, I've only ever replaced one sphere. Everything wears out eventually so to expect to not have to replace spheres on a Citroen at some stage is simply unrealistic. I've just replaced the shock absorbers on my E Class Mercedes at 155,000 kms but I'm not about to claim that this proves conventional suspension is a failure. It's just different. To understand a Citroen, you must drive a Citroen - and not just around the block. The capabilities of Hydractive suspension are simply world-beating, but they are only fully revealed after driving a Citroen through rough country roads, smooth highways and around cities. Then, the full range of the system's abilities are revealed.
@AlperAkbilgi
9 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@mickdick1138
9 жыл бұрын
i own a C4 Grand Picasso exclusive 2007 and the back has sunk
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
The MineCartKid With Transformers The C4 has conventional suspension, not hydractive suspension.
@mickdick1138
9 жыл бұрын
I know But the suspension
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
@103498170839624310804 At the risk of stating the obvious, this is a discussion about hydraulic suspension, not conventional suspension. I'm very sorry for you that your suspension has 'sunk' on your 8 year old C4. Perhaps replace the shocks?
I get the impression that Citroen are 10 years ahead of every other car manufacturer
@MrJeronimo94
9 жыл бұрын
senor250 You're right, BMW is copying this on their new 7 series, they call it Executive drive lol ...
@matthiasbretonnier4015
5 жыл бұрын
senor250 this is not an impression 😁😁
@callumhardy5098
4 жыл бұрын
senor250 Ha ha they were ahead in 1955! Lol
@sssharefff
3 жыл бұрын
@@krisg822 yeah but licensed by Citroen
@davidbt98
3 жыл бұрын
@@krisg822 Sorry but it was Citroën who invented the self leveling hydroneumatic suspension as well as many other stuff like self returning steering or the hydroneumatic assisted brakes, Rolls-Royce, Mercedes and others licensed some of this technologies from Citroen, not the other way around. Remember the Citroen DS was presented in 1954...
My parents had a CX and it was superb. Hope Citroen will bring back this unique system in the near future. Their design and level of luxury are second to none. Wonderful piece of engineering!
Sorry for my bad English. Since 2004, I'm traveling with a Citroen. Twice a Citroen C5 Exclusive. From 2010 I drive a Citroen C6. In all the years I had no damage to these vehicles. Citroen is the best you can what happened. Quality and comfort.
I have my c6 now for 4 years... and yes it drives really good BUT i also had already some repairs to do! I spend around 1800 € on repairs and maintenance during these years what is, I think, still allright. It is something special and it is just stupid to compare it to, for example, an E class. The E class has got a suspension that is at least 30 years old technologie so it is quite logic that it isn't as refined but therefor maybe a bit more reliable. Big citroen buyers are kind of special people... maybe we are a little crazy be we love them!!!! It takes a strong personality to drive these cars!!
The Last Emperor of Citroen!
a used C6 is very cheap now and reliable . time to buy it
Want this car.
@fredaydaybae8450
8 жыл бұрын
+g00dfeeling SO much want...the want is redic with this one
I do not know if it is the best suspension in the world, but it is the best suspension I have ever experienced. By far. And although its softness the car is never "swimming". Since I own a C6 i am constantly checking the market to buy another one.
Both the C5 and C6 have sport settings to the suspension which make it a lot harder and help with cornering etc. The suspension on the C5 does not compare to that on the C6. It's like comparing an E class Merc to an S class.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Valid point if we talk about 1st generation C5. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXuKqruHZrS0Y7Q.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/pmWptpmDqZfgibQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5OemsGalMrSYrA.html But the 2nd generation (well atleast more equipt versions with bigger and more powerfull engines) has identical suspension to the C6. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWmT1qWNeruWZaw.html
I love Citroen for the good combination of special features and affordability. I would love to have an E65, but I can not afford even its fuel. Furthermore, with such a car I never dare to go camping, a scratch would cost as my Picasso, it would never let my drift (ESP and the rest of the electronics) and a set of tyres would cost like my Vulcane. So I have multiple cars for the different purposes and loves them :)
Now I need to buy this in my country with full of potholes and cracks
Citroens are known for their modern suspensions
@dickn.ormous1064
5 жыл бұрын
Not anymore.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly I have to agree. The cost cutting excuse. Read this: www.citroenet.org.uk/miscellaneous/abandoned/abandoned.html
RR did use genuine Citroen suspension in the Silver Shadow and Corniche. VW Patheon are now equipped with a bad kind of Citroen kind a like suspension about 60 years to late. CITROEN "SUPERB CREATIVE TECNOLOGY". I have flown in your cars since the day i was born in 1972 and i will the rest of my life - LOVE YOU CITROEN!
My father owned a Xanthia 1.6L. from 1996 till end of 2013 and recycled it because he also owned a Porsche Cayenne S 4.5 V8 from 2009 and he thought he wouldn't miss it. Recycling Xanthia was his biggest mistake ever. Still better on road than Porsche 18 years later. I had driven it and Porsche all this years. Way better automobile to travel the 400 km way to the village from Athens.
@amj76425
Жыл бұрын
The Gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 👇 kzread.info/dash/bejne/npaWltqwic2Xaco.html Book from Clarence Larkin Dispensational Truth, Or God's Plan and Purpose in the Ages 2 Timothy 2:15🎉
even ROLLS-ROYCE use citroen suspension that meens citroen is one of the best cars
@Jk-oz5qn
3 жыл бұрын
No
@TeslaLiam
3 жыл бұрын
No
@John-ci2sd
3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore. Now if you took the badge off a citroen you wouldnt be able to tell if its a Renault, Peugeot or a citroen.
Thanks pal!!! I will ship it to Belgium, where I have business. I bought a few parts on eBay in the past, but some did not match. I will keep you posted. What car do you drive ?
It all started just over 50 years ago with a goddess
I enjoyed the hydragas suspension on my Austin Metro, hydronuematic suspension in the big Citroens looks clever.
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed the case. Have you ever seen this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxrrq5wY73ZdZM.html www.citroenet.org.uk/prototypes/activa/activa.html
As a former driver of a Xantia activa V6 and a XM v6 I prefer the new Progressive Hydraulic Cushion system of my C5 Aircross. Le Roi Est Mort, Vive Le Roi
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
We used to have GS-A, BX, and passanger experience in Xantia back in the late 90`s, drove C5 I. generation, and I drive occasionally my uncle`s C5 Tourer (with sporty front seats). Months ago I also occasionally drove several new C5 Aircrosses and facelifted C4 Cactuses (at Citroen dealership where I worked for a while) both with Progressive Hydraulic Cushions. Just so you know I have some experience in that department. :) Conclusion: Progressive Hydraulic Cushions comes from Rallye world that Citroën once again cleverly modified for comfortable ride - no electronics as you well know (which is cheaper to maintain I suppose if anything goes wrong). Seats are softer than in my uncle`s C5 Tourer because they provide additional cushioning in addition to the suspension. On the negative side - those same seats aren`t designed to hold you as well in corners than those in the C5 II but they were never ment to either. But the real drawback for me is that Progressive Hydraulic Cushions lack sophistication of Hydractive 3+ and all previous generations of that system. and that is sad. I miss something like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxrrq5wY73ZdZM.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6qCqbCMe7KndaQ.html Even this simply does not compare: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIGTtbGQYtu3Z6g.html
This is absolutely mindblowing.
Nowindays we dont have Citroens in the U.S. We had it before. An Citroen SM in 1972. And I saw the oldschool DS in the streets somewhere in Arizona las year.
The Citroen Xantia was in -94 the winter test of TM (Teknikan Maailma) as best. Because of the handling of the car. When i was in traffic school, i had citroen Xantia -94. when we went to handling circuit i had my citoen slide and come to control. My istructor said= that's how french car should behave. Thats it
@Spurdospaerde692
2 жыл бұрын
To be precise, the car in the Tekniikan Maailma (FI)/Teknikens Värld (SE) "moose avoidance test" was not any Xantia, but a Xantia Activa, first produced in 1995. In addition to the "normal" Xantia's (and XM's) already great Hydractive 2 suspension, the Activa also had separate hydraulic cylinders attached to the anti-roll bars, which kept the car flat during aggressive cornering. This was the only Citroën ever made with this system. The Activa achieved the highest max speeds in the TM/TV test, beating not only any other mass-produced people-carrier, but also every super sports car that was submitted to the test. I think it still holds the record. Unfortunately, in 2017 the cretins at Stellantis/PSA/Citroën decided that steel springs and drilling a few holes in regular shock absorbers are good enough, so now there's no longer any cars with any hydropneumatic suspension made, and thus no longer any point of buying a Citroën over any other marque.
such a refreshing video...
I love it. Astonishing experience of driving this car. Only minus is getting new car. None will be as comfortable as C6. I also have new C4 and it is better than any other golf-class car. In comfort way mostly. I've driven latest Seat Leon and it feels like war machine compared to C4. It is too loud and too hard. And C6 is like melody compared to BMW 5 series(2006, not mine) and VW Passat(2008, not mine either). So, this car is, AWESOME!
Citroen has achieved something in automotive history that put the challenge to the rest of the world to contemplate with.
So whats new Mercedes?
A parte il design del cruscotto, è perfetta, meravigliosamente Citroen !
couldn't afford it but a c5 thp with hydractive 3+ does the trick :D
To the ignorant few claiming that the "fancy suspension" will be expensive to repair. You couldn't be more wrong. I'm speaking from years of experience.... rather than speaking out of my arse (like a few of the people on here).
@Sherukka
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, I found that very funny too! In reality it is very, very cheap and much cheaper even than standard suspension to repair and you donut have to fix it nearly as frequently.
@TK42138
10 жыл бұрын
Both my XM's and Xantia had 100 percent reliable suspension. Only minor problem on my present XM was a perished rubber fluid return pipe on the front strut which popped off but that was all. I would rather deal with a suspension sphere on a Citroen than a rusty old coil spring on any other car. A good proportion of my work as a mobile mechanic was replacing broken springs on 'normal cars'. So long as LHM and filters are changed at the correct interval, these cars are fine. Quirky but not scary to work on.
@rui518
9 жыл бұрын
i am looking for more info, but how many times need this suspension to be maintain? what's the mileage to change spheres and oil??
@TK42138
9 жыл бұрын
Depends on the Citroen model and year. On Xantias, XM's etc with the green LHM, I would change fluid and clean the filter every two years but certainly more times than Citroen's original guidelines. The C5, C6 etc used different hydraulic fluid and control system with far more electronic components and supposedly a longer service interval. As for spheres - you'll know when they are failing because the ride quality suffers. On the BX, Xantia and XM, the spheres go rock hard and makes the car undrivable. A failing accumulator sphere will force the system to work harder and you'll hear loud regular clicks, groans, hissing every few seconds from the front of the engine where the accumulator and regulator is bolted to.
@TK42138
9 жыл бұрын
Never had issues with suspension on the two XM's or the Xantia although the rear spheres can put up a bit of a fight when changing them. Sometimes the Xantia and XM front strut low pressure fluid return pipe can perish but they're easy to replace and should be considered a service item. Yet to find a modern car that can handle like a limo or a GTi with just a flick of a hydractive switch.
Hi Samu, I LOVE the car! One can not get a better handling car for less than 40 times its price! The next better handling car would be a Boxster (25 to 50 times the Vulcane price). I do have some problems though, as spare parts in Israel are getting hard to find. In general, it is the best cheap driver's car you can buy.
Yes I know RR used Citroen Suspension, which is fantastic because even they knew it was great. But since the discontinuation of those models RR has tried to create their own suspension systems to apparently "rival" Citroen's: something they failed at. And just to let you know that there is no such VW model as the "Patheon"? But what I do know is the VW PHAETON uses the same suspension as a Audi A8 which is just regular air suspension. Nothing to do with Citroen Suspension! Nowhere near it!
Incredibly amazing! Vive la France!
Yes it use to be used under licence by Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but they no longer use it. They have made their own suspension systems; all air-suspension based. But they still aren't capable of rivalling Citroen's innovation.
maybe C6 have best suspension in the world
@carstenweiland7896
5 жыл бұрын
It has truly, bought one 2 years ago, still makes me smile every time I leave the Car. @@chrisrpet
@GamingBelgian
5 жыл бұрын
@@carstenweiland7896 how's the reliability and the maintenance costs? I'm also interested in buying one
Great car for suspension and confort, akword shape especially on the back.
How is this suspension diffrent from the C5 Hydractive 3+?
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
The 2nd generation C5 adopted it. They both have the same Hydractive 3+. Driven it - my uncle`s C5 (II.) Tourer = sublime. :)
I will take you reliability comments into account when i go out to start my 20yr old 3ltr v6 xm every morning... I must admit to have a load of engine issues a while ago, all electrical, and all down to a $2 relay, which was not made by citroen......
Citroen the best suspension in the world for comfort and ride, but its all a great deal more likely to go wrong compared to the simplicity a spring ?
The latest evolution of Citroën hydropneumatic suspension. French engineering.
Which citroen is the most comfortable? One fitted with hydractive 3+? Im very curious to drive one, but also slightly worried thinking its suspension will spoil every other car lol
@dufonrafal
Жыл бұрын
C5-I C6 is the only one with AMVAR.
awesome
Some people want to drive a Porsche, I want to drive a C6 or a C5 with Hydractive III+ suspension.
Is it smoother than the magic body role on the new s class and maybach?!
@Halvomeister
9 жыл бұрын
Haven't driven a new S Class or the Maybach
@zagyex
7 жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce licenses this so maybe yes.
The C5 & C6 Corvettes used a single leaf spring that acts only as an anti-roll bar. It's only part of an independent multilink wishbone suspension. There are no other American cars that use leaf springs.
Awesome!
Who would win One hybrid Prius Vs One comfort boi
Road is pupmpy Citroen:no problemo
I want one!
i can see that the suspension is very very sophisticated, because at poor surface you can see the body only move a bit
Part2, My total cost of ownership is way lower than ANY Japanese car and I did the statistics back and forth. 2 more facts, Nissan and precise steering are antonyms. I can not sit in any Japanese car for more than 15min unless you install me a customed Recaro / SPA / Sparco :) As for the Citroen, when I retired a 20YO ZX I took out the seats and made them my computer seats to this day:) When I live you do not find many cars past 20YO, due to state regulations.
I miss my C6 2.7 (Jaguar/RRS diesel engine) and it was the most comfortable car I have ever driven but my god the electrical problems...
@keyser414
2 жыл бұрын
27 jaguar rrs engine? its not ford engine?
@macdieter23558
Жыл бұрын
@@keyser414 The engines in the Citroen may have been horrible, but not THAT horrible!
@kristoffer3000
6 ай бұрын
@@keyser414 It was a Ford engine yes, the OP is just coping lol
I am "sorry" to disappoint you, I have 4 citroens for myself and my business. The newest is a C4 which is a shame to the brand. But the 2006 Xsara Picasso is a MARVEL, it is by FAR the best car of its category to this day (by far better than its successor the C4 Picasso bahh). I drive a 1996 2.0L Volcane and it is the best handling car under $K100, and believe me I know, I race Porsches 20+ years ago. I have K220 Km on the car and it is as tight as new, I pay good money for that!
I would love as C6 as my second car. You can pick a decent one up for about £3K in the UK.
wew, awesome
okay thanks i wasn't sure :)
The Silverado is a pickup work truck. Not a car. Trucks use leaf springs because they are able to handle very high loads. (HD Silverados have a load capacity of over 900 kilos). Have you ever seen a dump truck with coil springs? Citroen has a brilliant history of suspension engineering. The original DS is one of the most innovative cars of all time. But the British, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Japanese and Americans have also contributed to automotive innovation. Modern cars are global.
I wish it was sold in Canada! 😭
This suspension needs a revision after some years?
@benjamincharlin6770
4 жыл бұрын
Every 5 years
isn't the 1994 caddy the most comfy car? or the lincoln town?
@loffe9
7 жыл бұрын
NO!
@martian9999
5 жыл бұрын
they wallow. The Citroen doesn't
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
Lmao, fuck no. Most other european cars don't come close to the comfort of Citroëns hydropneumatic, so don't get started with american cars
What a great looking car...I am assuming it drives as good as it looks. V rare on UK roads
I dread to think of the cost if this system were to some how go wrong
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
Good thing that the suspension is realible and robust and with a bit of care and maintanence the system won't ever fail you
I wish i hadn’t got rid of my XM. I guess this is the only successor still on the road
And if this system malfunctions in any way, youre left w/o a car?
@amopastorcanadense
7 жыл бұрын
best suspension aorund the globe but if it gets damaged....well, it will be as expensive to repair as one fitted on a Ranger ROver.
@burrliburrli
7 жыл бұрын
The mechanical parts in the system has been in use since the 1950's so it's very well tested, and the spheres themselves lasts about 200000km nowadays and costs only from ~40€ per sphere to replace. Compare that to the cost of replacing a broken air cushion, on let's say a Audi A6 Allroad (which does not lost anywhere near as long) and you'll begin to wonder why other manufactures even bother with air suspension instead of hydropneumatic suspension. Especially since they don't even get close to the comfort level.
@loffe9
7 жыл бұрын
Wrong! 1 Ive been driving oily Cits for 40 years and never had one damaged. 2 The spheres can be re charged quite cheaply, unlike expensive spring and damper sets. 3. Cit garages charge much less than Range Rover, Rolls or Bently, who use similar systems
You`re welcome. Anytime. :)
citroen suspension is the best
ho una c6 , e' molto rigida , nonostante ho cambiato tutte e sette le sfere da una settimana , quando prendi un avvallamento ,non ammortizza per niente sbatte subito boom ed e' durissima , poi se la strada all'improvviso ha dislivello ,sbatte all'incontrario , cosa devo fare ,prima che la distrugga con una mazza ?grazie
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
ma la portate ad officine autorizzate..Citroën..?
@sarasilve7934
3 жыл бұрын
certo , evidentemente non capiscono un c...o della sospensione @@-R-I-C-H-7-
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
e quello è! meccanicucci della domenica...@@sarasilve7934 ci vorrebbe Edd China.. questi meccanici ,presunti,invece di sistemare ,peggiorano..
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
certo che la C-6 è proprio una gran bella macchina!
@-R-I-C-H-7-
3 жыл бұрын
@@sarasilve7934 non distrugga l'auto.. per quello ci pensano già i meccanici..
Sorry. Forgot to mention the Swedes.
In reply to 2Str0k3: "How many 24 year old french cars do you see on the road still? None." Umm... my 1990 Citroen XM with 300.000 kilometres on the clock still works, in fact, everything works on it! I have seen a lot of 30+ year old Citroen and Peugeot cars on the road for the past 8+ years, I see most of them almost everyday! Just realize that EVERY single car on the road today needs maintenance! The only times your car breaks down is when you don't give a flying fuck about it! (i.e, you don't change the oil, oil filter, coolant, break pads and so on when the respective thing needs to be changed) If the only thing you do to your car is re-fuelling it, your car is going to break down any minute! There is not a single car available today that is maintenance-free! A special message to 2Str0k3: Fuck off you ignorant twat!
@amidshy
10 жыл бұрын
My 1990 citroen BX still works very well too :-)
@stephen10.
10 жыл бұрын
my renault 19 1.8 liters (1993 ) works very well too
@arlind530d
9 жыл бұрын
This is not entirely true
@blu1ine
9 жыл бұрын
i have a 1989 bx 1.9 gti and a 1994 xantia tct both with 200k+ km and they work fine, of course they need some attention time to time but any car with the same age would.
@arlind530d
9 жыл бұрын
Citroen geeks
don't forget the train suspension. really, that's what they use in almost all their cars, even in the "sporty" mustang BTW, multilink suspension was invented in the 50's, 60's. They don't use that yet.
I’m not entirely convinced. This needs more balloons tied to fish…
@macdieter23558
Жыл бұрын
You should have driven one when they were available! A life changing experience!
Part4 However, if you survive this via de'la rosa for 10 years and your car becomes 30YO you may claim a special plate for "collectors item". You still suffer rushing the car for 2 technical controls a year but for close to no price (around $35 state fee each) the car's insurance goes for peanuts (10% to 15% of market price). BUT! There is a catch, you better do not make it your daily driver, as a no-driving restrictions on driving at rush hours (0800 - 1000, 1500-1700) is imposed on you.
are you sure rr didnt just use air ride like mercedes has done for years?
@tyraela115
4 жыл бұрын
If you type in Wikipedia Self-levelling suspension you also get this: "...In 1966, Rolls-Royce licensed Citroën's hydropneumatic system to fit to the rear axle of the Silver Shadow. At first, both the front and rear of the car were controlled by the leveling system; the front levelling was deleted in 1969 as it had been determined that the rear levelling did almost all the work. Rolls-Royce achieved a high degree of ride quality with this arrangement. ..." For the rest google Rolls Royce. :)
@mertcalc3259
3 жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce currently uses air suspension
❤️👏👏👏
Everybody knows is the best suspension but paradoxicaly it is going to be unavailable in the comming years in the market.
Sounds like Charlotte Green narrating.
doug demuro brought me here
What!? Give me some more info about it :D
Also your opinion about how they look is all up to personal taste. It won't take they heart of many people, but it takes the heart of people who truly have great taste. It utilizes great historical design cues, and modern aerodynamic lines. It is actually a masterpiece in my eyes and I have 20-20 vision so don't start accusing me of poor visibility.
SUPERIOR!!!!!
I had 3 CXs and they were great cars,at the time a lot of people were critical of them but if you ask them if they had owned one or driven one the reply was usually no. With the C6 it may suffer from the same problem,but who cares let them buy their euroboxes which will never be remembered as they lack any soul.
Citroen's suspension is used by Mercedes and other premium manufacturers under a license
@TheSdzisuaf
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It seems that people are idiots. Instead of buying it cheap from citroen they switched to f*** expensive from mercedes. Thus making citroen to stop producing hydroactive fitted cars at all. I won't even try to understand this ultimate dumbness. Thanks for pointing out Mercedes license.
Unfortunatly, its the hard truth, most of modern french car are a pain to service and repair, older french car like the old AX or Clio did have there drawback but doing some a simple basic maintenance was possible
Part3, The state wants old cars off the road, local regulation makes maintaining a car past 20YO utterly expensive. Penalties include: 2 technical controls a year, sky high insurance, no towing insurance, no-low spare parts availability, parts self-import problems, extra emission test and constant hustle by police inspections. They want the car off the road and they make sure you got the massage.
Actually, Mercedes licensed the Citroen system as well. Most notably in the 560SEL.
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@jmcnu1ty
6 жыл бұрын
hassiktir be :D
@nemiroffvodka6716
5 жыл бұрын
ya :DDD
Funny Citroen used to be at the top of their game with suspension and now they just make floaty dim witted SUVs
It is a little funny to find out that you do not drive a manual transmission French handling car... I want a Xsara VTS Loeb edition. BTW, I visited the website you sent me and could not find the parts I need... I will have ot keep up with eBay.fr
You're from Finland, that's normal.
Well Citreon suspension is the best in the world. Ferrari suspension is not electrocuted. It isn't that exclusive either, Cadillac uses it. It only comprises of magnetic particles. And Rolls Royce only uses a form of air-suspension. Citroen has been using this advanced hydro-pneumatic system since the 1930's. That is how far ahead of technology they were.
And fiability?
@akumu1721
3 жыл бұрын
Not incredible need regular maintenance but if she wasnt a commercial fail due to the conception time (the concept presented in 98 took 6 yrs to lunch the product)her poor marketing management only like 23 384 from 2005 to 2012 a disaster(someone has been fired for this)she would be selled way more for making it rentable and showing a refiabilised version otherwise a lot of them are pretty nice in fiability but the ones who have problems with call her the affectuously "C666" i bet you wonder why if its the suspension you beter get a garage or come dirrectly to Citroën
Dream on. This is Citroen`s suspension. Bose made approximation of it but Citroen was the 1st back in the 50`s. This is the 3rd generation and slightly improved - Hydroactive 3+. Get your facts straight and check before you write something you know nothing about.
I've bought mine 6 month ago and it is a fantastic car! the most confortable i eve had...And i Owned a Lexus GS300 before
No.You don't have to dream.Go to a dealer and take it to a test drive :P That won't be a dream i assure you :P