Citi Strata Premier | Worst Launch POSSIBLE

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You have a good card, you have a great product, WHY DID YOU DO THIS!
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  • @JacobsPointsAndProfit
    @JacobsPointsAndProfit2 ай бұрын

    Very interesting they launched the card today. I bet they don’t want existing Premier customers applying for the new card and getting a welcome bonus. That’s might be why they product changed everyone’s cards

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s even worse to think about if they are hurting THAT badly.

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausenYea, that would be the obvious reason since now applying for the Strata Premier is voided with the auto product change.

  • @rossinverted

    @rossinverted

    2 ай бұрын

    Going to try to apply for the strata in case they want to buff their stats. Lucky I downgraded my premier a few days ago.

  • @waterfountainsofarizona4587

    @waterfountainsofarizona4587

    Ай бұрын

    I agree with your video smh 💳

  • @ShakaSalmon
    @ShakaSalmon2 ай бұрын

    I'm not exactly sure what the problem is here... I'd understand if anything was lost, but there literally wasn't. They rebranded the card, and added two points categories. On the flipside, credit card issuers remove benefits from their cards all the time across the board, but that also didn't happen here. The reality is that the Citi Premier was way better than it should have been, and the Strata Premier will still be great as the low-end option for the future Strata Elite, but they're only able to do those sort of things by not dicking around with legacy products that hold up benefit negotiations.

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    The fact he compared this to the U2 album/Apple situation is ridiculous.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Just calling out the bad communication. That’s all

  • @Jesus-kt5dc
    @Jesus-kt5dc2 ай бұрын

    Woah, I just checked because you said they upgraded everyone. You're right mine has been product changed.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Less than ideal

  • @PointsPrecision
    @PointsPrecision2 ай бұрын

    In my opinion if they weren't changing the name, nobody would care. It's no different than if Amex randomly announced that they were adding an extra bonus category to the Gold and improving travel protections, but keeping the fee the same. I imagine everyone would either be pleasantly surprised with the added benefits, or they wouldn't even notice. I don't think renaming the card changes that, or automatically makes it a separate product to the point that you would expect to be eligible for another bonus.

  • @SectionChief

    @SectionChief

    2 ай бұрын

    Very valid point. It’s just a re-branding.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    What would help a ton if they actually communicated their intentions with they card and whatever this rebrand/New product is…

  • @SpencerJohnsonOfficial
    @SpencerJohnsonOfficial2 ай бұрын

    No question now that they wanted to lock existing Premier holders out of a welcome offer on the Strata Premier. Granted, they're the same card, but automatically doing this to folks without any communication just makes it feel weird to me. Thanks for the updates as always brotha 👊🏼

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I felt I had to call out the process. The product is great. The process though. Yeeeeesh

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks as always Spencer!

  • @robertjarrell7276
    @robertjarrell72762 ай бұрын

    I’m fine with the automatic upgrade. The interesting question is what effect this will have on the Stratus Elite, when and if.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Sure would help if Citi Communicated anything

  • @shawn.credit
    @shawn.credit2 ай бұрын

    My Citi Premier account was converted this morning, I ordered a replacement Strata Premier card and should have it soon. Odd that it was a copy and paste of the Citi Premier with some previous additions that were removed on the Premier. The 10X on hotels and car rentals is solid I will see how I feel about this card the longer I hold it.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    New card I’m sure will be awesome. That they did what they did to current card holders is a nope to me.

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m definitely not a fan of the new card design whatsoever, looks cheap feels cheap and is easily scratched just an all around fail for a $95 AF card compared to the Citi Premier.

  • @Adiscretefirm
    @Adiscretefirm2 ай бұрын

    I'm a little confused by the reactions, they addressed their biggest weakness, raised the sub, kept the af, and everyone is mad? Amex would have raised the fee, given a $5/wk credit at Hobby Lobby and people would line up. I get bonus hunters being disappointed they can't double dip, but I can't hold it against them that they aren't incentivizing churn, by just changing the name they actually helped by not resetting the time-since-last-bonus timer.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    The card changes were great, I have no issue with the changes. All good there. It was the absolute lack of communication from Citi about when things were going to be implemented. That’s where I got pissed.

  • @Adiscretefirm

    @Adiscretefirm

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen I think stealth launches may become the norm, marketing departments must be sweating to justify budgets when all the details are on forums and blogs 2 weeks before any announcement. I absolutely believe that the current holders should be given an email explaining the changes, that was my biggest complaint about the Autograph news blackout during the transfer partner rollout

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Adiscretefirm that’s the crux of my complaint.

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@Adiscretefirm Uh I just got a notice in my Citi app about the change and what it entails. So stop complaining!!!!

  • @Adiscretefirm

    @Adiscretefirm

    2 ай бұрын

    @@michaelp.3485 I'm defending Citi, the complaint was with WF,and if they sent it out then that's good on them but they could have sent the email before updating the app

  • @jimmyjames6492
    @jimmyjames64922 ай бұрын

    CITI could've given everyone a heads up on this for sure. Wowza. Thanks for the info + video!

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @DugrozReports
    @DugrozReports2 ай бұрын

    FYI ... I attempted to find the T's & C's on my card when logged in, and couldn't find anything that would shed light on the specifics of travel protections. They are mailing me new terms and conditions in 7-9 days. No idea if it will be in there.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m going to bet the farm they won’t.

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    I ordered a new card as well, I was told I’d get one when my Citi Premier reached it’s expiration date I sure was not going to wait that long!

  • @louis2you

    @louis2you

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi Dugroz, in your Citi account look for card services than card benefits. Than look for your card if you have multiple. I was able to see their new guide in detail. I also ordered the new designed card.

  • @avenger7875a
    @avenger7875a2 ай бұрын

    I'm not a Citi Premier cardholder, but I don't really see why this conversion would be an issue for those who are. Apart from the name and card design change, this seems like a more minor shift than the average Amex refresh. The change from PRG to Gold back in 2018 feels like a good proxy that was generally really well received, and that one involved an increase in AF that isn't present here. It feels like Citi did really fumble the launch from a marketing perspective, but I don't think the change itself is a problem or that this needs to be a new product.

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah. That’s why I started off with “the product is fine.” They could not have done this marketing any worse.

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    I found the full protections description. I found the same thing for the Wells Fargo Autograph Journey. They both cover a lot. What we need is a travel insurance expert or two to line it all up for us.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m sure smarter minds than me will be up to this task if asked.

  • @DJOctober
    @DJOctober2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the quick updates as always bro! Absolutely whack! They should give the customers to upgrade in their own - not force an upgrade to edge them out of an upgrade option! Autograph Journey launch was weak, so was this card. Here’s to hoping we get a better launch for the Strata Elite - I hope they learn from the feedback! Love your content. - Ivan

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Ivan. Yeah, I don’t like the process they undertook. But it is what it is. I don’t trust Citi’s product team as much as I did that’s for sure.

  • @yj3881
    @yj38812 ай бұрын

    Citi doesn’t want to give out SUB for existing Premier customers! Very obvious!

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That would be worse.

  • @ProfessorWambsgans
    @ProfessorWambsgans2 ай бұрын

    I remember reading when this was announced that they would change existing Premieres to the new Strata Premier. Can't remember which blog or video, but I clearly remember seeing it.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, but that’s still not helpful especially as posts got pulled down

  • @getsugatenshoFTW
    @getsugatenshoFTW2 ай бұрын

    My Citi Premier was automatically product changed to the Citi Strata Premier, personally no complaints with it but thought it was weird that the transition was made today out of all days and 3 days before the rumored launch

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    As unexpected changes go, this isn’t *bad.* But, it’s worrisome in total

  • @JoseSantiago-yq7co
    @JoseSantiago-yq7co2 ай бұрын

    Citi Strata Premier may not be a first round pick, but it jumped up a spot with a 75K welcome bonus. Although we talk endlessly about multipliers and travel protections, they don't matter much. Wells Fargo Autograph Journey 60K welcome bonus is not good enough. It takes a lot of spend to make up that 15K, so Wells Fargo moves to the second round.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s fair

  • @newagain9964

    @newagain9964

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed. I didn’t even do a 2nd look at journey. It’s ok to almost good card (but partners are weak). But no sub. Go to the back of line!

  • @Jes1919
    @Jes19192 ай бұрын

    Happened to my Citi Premier as well. Wish they would allow it for excising customers to apply for the bonus tho.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’d be nice.

  • @finbarrsheehan8304
    @finbarrsheehan83042 ай бұрын

    Product change to a custom cash then apply for the strata(assuming you haven’t had a bonus within 4 years and if you have it doesn’t apply to you anyway). Idk if I see any issue here, and I think the Wells Fargo situation is a very interesting comparison to basically adding benefits to cards people already had without a credit pull or af increase.

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    I believe you have to hold the Strata Premier for 1 year before you could product change to a Custom Cash. With the auto product change to Strata Premier most folks are stuck for a year.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    There’s ways around this sure. But…this whole situation reads as bad.

  • @finbarrsheehan8304

    @finbarrsheehan8304

    2 ай бұрын

    @@shawn.credit that’s possible, but I kinda feel like the systems internally recognize the premier and SP as the same, plus I’m sure you can call and complain about this for a retention offer/grievance and force them to change it anyway. Dk fs tho

  • @fogrunr5075

    @fogrunr5075

    2 ай бұрын

    It's a 2-year wait in between Premier bonuses.

  • @finbarrsheehan8304

    @finbarrsheehan8304

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fogrunr5075 last I saw the website said 48 months for the strata bonus, but that is a change that would be made regardless of whether you got auto pc’d or not

  • @Big_Jims_American_Dream
    @Big_Jims_American_Dream2 ай бұрын

    Yeah man I’m pissed the product changed me to the strata automatically. Was hoping to be able to product change my premier to a custom cash and then get a signup bonus with the strata

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yikes. That sucks. This whole situation

  • @rossinverted
    @rossinverted2 ай бұрын

    I downgraded my premier a few days ago. Wonder if they’ll approve a strata to buff launch statistics regardless of the SUB gatekeeper timeline

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven’t seen too many data points one way or the other, but worth a try

  • @rossinverted

    @rossinverted

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen was approved and don’t see anything on my terms and conditions (for or against the sub). We’ll see once I get the card and set up the account

  • @JohnDoe-fe2sp
    @JohnDoe-fe2sp2 ай бұрын

    I guess my question is this. Because they product changed everybody does that mean everyone will lose their points that they currently have because I read that when you product change from another card you lose your points after 90 days

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I don’t know because Citi has said exactly nothing shout this. Thy just did a thing.

  • @danielturner8798
    @danielturner87982 ай бұрын

    If there were a downside to the PC, I’d agree. As a cardholder, I don’t see a single downside for Premier cardholders though.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s mostly the principle and the fact they did and said NOTHING in anticipation. Makes me worry what’s next.

  • @danielturner8798

    @danielturner8798

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen - Fair. If the name hadn’t changed and they’d just announced additional benefits, would we care?

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s completely fair.

  • @finbarrsheehan8304

    @finbarrsheehan8304

    2 ай бұрын

    @@danielturner8798no we’d celebrate, I don’t really see the issue either.

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    And here it is! Just starting to watch....

  • @CesarJoel
    @CesarJoel2 ай бұрын

    I don’t the the issue, the card got rebranded and the old product converted to the new one. As a Premier card holder, I’m happy. The best $95-$150 mid tier travel card earner got even better 💪 Difficult to out earn the Premier with the Journey, CSP or the Green. The real $95-$150 👑 Is their card, not ours. They can even cancel the card if they want.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Citi also hasn't moved people off "Discontinued" products before, the Dividend and Prestige are still out there. Something feels off. I gave it props, but something's not right.

  • @CesarJoel

    @CesarJoel

    2 ай бұрын

    I was happy they automatically changed my card. Same card with better protections and a name change. It was a refresh not a new card IMO.

  • @joemcguffin
    @joemcguffin2 ай бұрын

    Not quite sure this is shady, and I'm not bothered by the change that happened overnight...but I had called Citi on Saturday to discuss another matter and asked the rep about the Strata change. She said, "Did you receive an email or message about this?" I replied, "No, I got nothing, but I've heard through other sources online that this change was happening soon...what can you tell me about it and how will it affect me?" She basically concluded with "I can't speak of anything related to this Strata matter." So, then Sunday I look and things all changed. I'm wondering if I'll get a replacement card automagically...or do I need to actually ask for that? The poor communications from Citi is the bigger issue for me.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    My issue is the overall communication. To let it sit there for 24 hours with nothing to me is unacceptable. But is what it is it seems.

  • @joemcguffin

    @joemcguffin

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen yessir - agreed!

  • @joemcguffin

    @joemcguffin

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey Matt,...just got off another call with the Citi reps about this Strata card. I asked if I could request a new Strata version of this card and was told, "At this time there is no option for me to do that for you." then the rep said, "All the new protections and features of the Strata card have been applied to your existing account." To which I said, "yeah yeah...I want the new card - when can I expect to get a new one...?" Rep said, "When your current card expires..." hahahaaaha So, 2027 for me, and by that time, Citi will have done something else to this card, I'm sure.

  • @MattMcGrathOfficial
    @MattMcGrathOfficial2 ай бұрын

    My wife’s Premier was also automatically product changed to the Strata Premier. We do like the Citi Trifecta setup, but that was very shady of Citi to do.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I don’t like the *Way* they did this.

  • @SENDO-X
    @SENDO-X2 ай бұрын

    I think you're looking at this as a new product instead of a rebranding (which it basically is). They clearly did this so people with the card wouldn't get another SUB since its the same card. Im not really understanding the upset...if AMEX rebranded the green card, would you expect them to let you reapply to get the SUB again? When the premier came out, it was never supposed to be the prestige, which is why they didn't convert it. This, however, is literally the same card rebranded.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    They still failed at basic communication pop ups are showing up in accounts today and still don’t list the travel protections. This is sloppy. And even leaving the door open to question this is a massive failure on their part

  • @shawn.credit
    @shawn.creditАй бұрын

    This evening I product changed my Citi Strata Premier card to a Citi Custom Cash. I have other travel cards and $95 for 3x on categories I already get on other travel cards seemed like a waste of a $95 AF. I kept the Citi Premier because I always wanted it since joining Citi but after the lazy ass cheap card design of the Strata Premier I felt cheated for a $95 AF card. A solid 5% card will be nice, I thought about getting the Double Cash again but I already have a few 2% cards.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    Ай бұрын

    Totally fair

  • @djcarlosalicea1638
    @djcarlosalicea16382 ай бұрын

    That's right. Mine was changed automatically without asking. If they were to do that, they should give us the same bonus points opportunity as new applicants..

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s not ideal for sure.

  • @robert8311
    @robert83112 ай бұрын

    I’m not getting the issue it’s seemed it’s common knowledge the strata is just a reprint of the premier do getting the upgrade doesn’t nothing

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    The card reprint I have no issue with. It's upgrading people without their knowledge, that's a slippery slope. See Fargo, Wells.

  • @theartist395
    @theartist3952 ай бұрын

    I suspect that their forced upgrade was threefold 1. Lock out any potential extra SUB they would have to pay 2. Look better for the shareholders in “wow look at the “sign up” rate for our new card” 3. Only have one team dedicated to the strata and not need to leave staff managing the old Premier accounts

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    All potentially valid. I still think that communication was lacking since it was 24 hours to update the splash page on their app. I get that I’m sour grapes. But other banks wouldn’t be given a pass

  • @BallasInc23
    @BallasInc232 ай бұрын

    If they allow people to PC, reapply, and still get the new welcome bonus, what's the difference?

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Because you’re choosing to do that…

  • @BallasInc23

    @BallasInc23

    2 ай бұрын

    The card doesn't exist anymore. It's not like an OG Freeddom. The old cards got upgraded. If they allow people to pc and get the new sub, it's LITERALLY the same thing as saying "hey this will happen soon". I just don't see the big deal UNLESS they don't show the situation i said with the PC and new sub

  • @woodzy883
    @woodzy8832 ай бұрын

    Honestly considering the card. I don't have any citi cards, but without AA as a transfer partner, and a obly whyndam and choice as a hotel chain as well as not knowing enough about bouncing hotel points through partner ships. Its hard to choose this card over say an aspire or AA business advantage. I need to start building out some airline miles for future trip

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Makes sense. Thanks Woodzy!

  • @DinoBurke
    @DinoBurke2 ай бұрын

    Just checked the app. Yep new name to the card which I literally product changed to in early April. Very interesting.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s not great

  • @IceIcelce
    @IceIcelce2 ай бұрын

    I got approved despite being 6/24 new accounts with 5 HPs on EX. So I guess I’ll just take this as an easy 75K points.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep. That’s solid. At least you chose to get and it wasn’t chosen to you

  • @redslate
    @redslateАй бұрын

    Are there _any_ drawbacks to the "Strata?" If there were no lost in features, this complaint seems entirely unwarranted...

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    Ай бұрын

    Recorded the day the card was silently put out with no official communication from Citi as to what they were doing.

  • @MontyTheCardNerd
    @MontyTheCardNerd2 ай бұрын

    Sounds like they're locking existing Premier cardmembers out from a Strata Premier bonus, but even if so Citi could just reflect it in their bonus eligibility language. Could also be that they don't want to maintain separate systems and employee resources for the old Premier and Strata Premier. Anyway, I agree that just converting everyone without prior notice isn't great. What is great is your update here so thanks!

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Monty! Yeah I was trying to separate the card from the communication. Can’t believe there’s people okay with how it was handled. But is what it is.

  • @Xavier_ID.
    @Xavier_ID.2 ай бұрын

    Nice take 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    I think most people here would likely burn at least $100 worth of points to book a $500 hotel stay, right? Okay so I'll book the $500 today using $100 worth of points. Now it's a $400 stay. And Strata Premier gives you $100 back as soon as you click "Book " Now it's $300. And you're going to get 10X c/o Strata. So it's $270 Net out-of-pocket ... on a $500 hotel booking. I say .. Forget status, I've got STRATA. Imagine being able to do that four times per year....book $500 for $270... and only burn $100 worth of points. That would be better than the new Hilton Surpass gives me. Strata just does it once per year. I'll take it.

  • @caribdude8151
    @caribdude81512 ай бұрын

    Yes Sir! 👍

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @beaunoonan510
    @beaunoonan5102 ай бұрын

    Good stuff Matt. I’d be furious.. you have any Citi TY points cards?

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I don’t at this time, this now worries me. But I’d consider them maybe after Chase.

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    100 200 300 dollars per year is well worth it to guarantee I don't eat the cost of two round trip global tickets. The very best travel protections are well worth it. Easy starting point: How much is the very best travel insurance that would cover everything? Use that when you book travel with a card that has no protections. How does that compare to something like the Sapphire Reserve? Break down the algebra.

  • @johnwick860
    @johnwick8602 ай бұрын

    not sure if Citi Mancom is doing worse or its Board... they havent been the same even since Mr Dimon left

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Things aren’t great over there.

  • @michaelp.3485
    @michaelp.34852 ай бұрын

    I applaud Citi for how they rolled this card out. It cuts off the scammers from double dipping on a signup bonus they already got for the same card. Good job Citi! I can't wait to see the new design!

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    This is fair. I just wanted to see things communicated. The communication sucked. That’s all

  • @CallMeLani
    @CallMeLani2 ай бұрын

    You should ahve started with the bad news haha 🤣

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Seriously….noted for next time. Yeeesh.

  • @TheCreditFrog
    @TheCreditFrog2 ай бұрын

    Haha Citi Bank at it again! Thanks for the notice Matt! That sucks.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    None of this feels right especially with the story retractions from FM. Something's off. We'll see. This is troublesome. Thanks Stan!

  • @TravelingonEverydaySpend-yr9nq
    @TravelingonEverydaySpend-yr9nq2 ай бұрын

    Excellent video Just looked at my citi premier and I was changed to the citi strata premier. No notification. Not cool at all. Would have liked to make the choice. Makes me think they are planning something whether it is on the strata premier or the premium card. I am actually considering if I actually want to keep the card. I will give it some time though. Thanks for the video.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    The implications of this are WILD to me.

  • @matthewJ142
    @matthewJ1422 ай бұрын

    I still think it was still one of U2s best sounding albums

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s fair. I haven’t listened to it in some time. Might be worth going back for.

  • @DoYouTakeCards
    @DoYouTakeCards2 ай бұрын

    Citi woke up and chose violence and Matt answered riiiiiight back.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    YEUP.

  • @BallasInc23

    @BallasInc23

    2 ай бұрын

    Sounds more like he chose crying

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BallasInc23 have your credit cards updated in the dead of night without your knowledge or consent and see what happens.

  • @DoYouTakeCards

    @DoYouTakeCards

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BallasInc23 🙄

  • @michaelp.3485
    @michaelp.34852 ай бұрын

    Omg this is literally a nothingburger. Trying to create a problem where none exist. I guess it would have been preferential to you for Citi to have closed all Premier cardholders accounts and forced people to apply for the card it is literally being replaced with.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    So you had no complaints with Wells Fargo.

  • @sunshinecycling
    @sunshinecycling2 ай бұрын

    a) Yes, they should have said something, b) I think this is blown way out of proportion (everyone got a better card for free, c) product changing a card without getting new fees associated with the new card is not something you are telling your stockholders (that's not what this is), d) new cards with new fees will be what you tell stockholders.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s a question of trust. Sure they made the card better. But they had no right to opt everyone in at all.

  • @newagain9964

    @newagain9964

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@MattClausen *capital one has left the chat*

  • @timtime88
    @timtime882 ай бұрын

    Mine was converted overnight

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Less than ideal

  • @seanly274
    @seanly2742 ай бұрын

    Still a keeper card

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    The CARD is great, the people behind the card...have made me VERY worried.

  • @briandole7467
    @briandole74672 ай бұрын

    👀 What’s the problem?

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    People like to complain about anything to get clicks on KZread.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Shitty corporate communication shouldn’t be tolerated and Citi shouldn’t get a pass for making changes to accounts without clearly communicating things?

  • @romineckok.9724
    @romineckok.97242 ай бұрын

    Citi was upgrading cards for years

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    This has been a rumor for a while. Yeah

  • @MattClausen
    @MattClausen2 ай бұрын

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  • @DugrozReports

    @DugrozReports

    2 ай бұрын

    Did you mean to pin this comment?

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DugrozReports I usually pin the buy me a coffee and such.

  • @DugrozReports

    @DugrozReports

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen I thought it was unpinned is what I meant. Maybe it's not displaying on my PC.

  • @yassineramadan840
    @yassineramadan8402 ай бұрын

    I think they did the right move,ok nothing shady, it is all about the SUB.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    And if you can't match to the new one or be eligible for one?

  • @kingsamvisuals
    @kingsamvisuals2 ай бұрын

    I think Wells missed an opportunity to crush this card. The overlapping and weurd categories on the journey doesn't make as much sense as this. You could realistically use this card for everything because the main categories are all present. Worst case u just add a double cash. I'm not interested in Citi. Too many horror stories

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    You’re not wrong. I do think for travelers the 5x hotels and 4x airlines without a portal or most favored airline is a great return but yeah they missed out on really knocking out Strata/Premier. I’d take both over the Sapphire Preferred. But my Active Cash/Autograph pair does quite well. And I have a CSR for travel protections.

  • @kingsamvisuals

    @kingsamvisuals

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen my next card is the CSP for the sub. Not a keeper. That'll put me past 5/24 and then I'm off to Amex and others.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s fair

  • @krs1905

    @krs1905

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattClausen The 60k offer from Wells seems lackluster compared to the Citi and Chase current SUBs for this group of “travel” cards.

  • @JonsCreditAndTravel
    @JonsCreditAndTravel2 ай бұрын

    Hey Matt!!! Good morning. Good stuff man. Appreciate the shoutout. Thank you. The only beef I have with Citi is not being notified before my Premier was converted. All about communication and there was none. Thanks again for the rant. Its justified.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s the point I was trying to make…seems I didn’t do as well as I thought. Oh well

  • @vinup6406
    @vinup64062 ай бұрын

    Couldn’t agree more.. absolutely lost cause. This is perfect recipe having team which is focused to jump off cliff … try this more outside home network.. just to make it quicker. For sure they are headed for top dogs required to accept $1/month compensation in couple of years..

  • @L-Man-Gaming
    @L-Man-GamingАй бұрын

    Citi is a joke. I can’t believe so many people recently applied for the card just because of the elevated offer. People being that desperate for points is hilarious to me. I would easily choose Wells Fargo for cards over Citi. Only thing worth seeing is how the Strata Elite compares to the Journey Beyond.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    Ай бұрын

    We’ll find out soon enough

  • @itsjustwest4811
    @itsjustwest48112 ай бұрын

    So I’m guessing this is a great time for a person like myself who do not currently own a premier card?🙄

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    No one owns a Premier card now. Whether they like it or not.

  • @DT-we2ye
    @DT-we2ye2 ай бұрын

    Legally speaking you are wrong. As long as annual fee remains the same, and there is no cost to the consumer, no issues legally or optically from my view. Happens all the time in banking and finance. Nothing was lost by consumer. Only gains. Not sure why you are senstive about what I would cconsider to be "complimentary upgrades" to the card.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It was the utter lack of communication. While not obligated. It should have been done.

  • @DT-we2ye

    @DT-we2ye

    2 ай бұрын

    ​​@@MattClausenCiti announced over a year ago that they acquired the rights and trademark to the name Citi Strata. Everyone knew it was coming. Everyone wanted it. From your video, it sounds like your issue is that you wanted the cardholders to have the right to say yes or no to completely complimentary upgrades to a card. That is not custom and practice. And that's not how I see it. I'm fine with the free upgrades just being automatically applied with minimum and short notice. I don't need to agree and approve those upgrades before they take hold. And I am fine with their minimalist announcement. We all knew this change was coming over a year ago.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    I just happen to think product changes shouldn’t just happen in the dead of night. I also don’t think it was okay to not communicate anything because it was only positives. It seems I’m in the minority of this sentiment, which feels wrong to me. But it is what it is. This was pure emotion, and I have since moved past it since hey, it’s just Citi. I get issuers can do this and we freely sign up for it. But it didn’t sit right. Seems to sit right for plenty of people and they’re entitled to that sentiment. Is what it is.

  • @DT-we2ye

    @DT-we2ye

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@MattClausen understood. I get what you are saying. I know I would be livid if they, for example, handled it this way and increased the annual fee. I just subscribed. I like your videos. Can you give more reviews on the best credit cards for gas and travel or other spends? You also have very nice hands if I may say so 😊

  • @Trucker-X
    @Trucker-X2 ай бұрын

    FTA 🦧

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @krs1905
    @krs19052 ай бұрын

    The card was also released 6+ months later than expected and then they did this on a Sunday morning. Clown show stuff.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Being THE Wells Fargo fan KZread, I have no leg to stand on on missing time frames.

  • @faisalbilal1107
    @faisalbilal11072 ай бұрын

    Happened to my card as well. Very upsetting.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s not great

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    Then close your account. Citi doesn't need you.

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    So I was smart when I downgraded my Premier to Double Cash last summer 🏝️😎🎉🎉

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr50752 ай бұрын

    No Citi Strata Premier sub for me until Summer 2025.

  • @sayyedal-afghani7896
    @sayyedal-afghani78962 ай бұрын

    Yawn. The Citi ecosystem is pretty lame anyway. Their credit cards are only slightly more exciting than their Savings Accounts which pay 0.03% APY

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s an alright ecosystem. And they have decent airline partners. But fair

  • @NeoSoulCrew
    @NeoSoulCrew2 ай бұрын

    You're being a drama queen. My premier got upgraded and nothimg was lost only gained. I'm not a churned and I don't care they did this.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s fine. It is what it is.

  • @krs1905
    @krs19052 ай бұрын

    First

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks as always Keith!

  • @shawn.credit
    @shawn.credit2 ай бұрын

    The card looks and feels cheap what a complete disappointment compared to the Citi Premier card.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Forced to change to an inferior product; ouch

  • @michaelp.3485

    @michaelp.3485

    2 ай бұрын

    Bullcrap.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    People untitled to their opinion

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    @@michaelp.3485When and if you receive yours we will await your option, the matte look of the Citi Premier looks nicer!

  • @shawn.credit

    @shawn.credit

    2 ай бұрын

    @@michaelp.3485When and if you receive yours we will await your opinion, the matte look of the Citi Premier looks nicer!

  • @gregb5876
    @gregb58762 ай бұрын

    Waste is time watching this. Nothing Burger.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the Watch time though!

  • @kevinManhattan
    @kevinManhattan2 ай бұрын

    Yeah Kinda shady move by Citi. But hopefully you can product change and apply for the welcome offer.

  • @MattClausen

    @MattClausen

    2 ай бұрын

    Not sure. We’ll see

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