"But I have the other slipper...BITCHES!"

@BubbleManStudios

8 жыл бұрын

"OH FUCK"

@davidstone281

18 күн бұрын

I laughed way too hard when Rob went, "FUCK!"

3:39 THANK YOU!!! I have thought this for a long time about Cinderella and I don't get why people dislike the animated portrayal. Here is a girl stuck one of the worst possible situations and rather than either let it embitter her or sit back and do nothing (as is what supposedly happens), she not only works hard but has a loving, sweet attitude about it.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

You people are fucked up, misinterpreting morals like that. How the fuck did you get "sit around and do nothing" from "have courage and be kind"? What the fuck are the similarities? You can sit around and do nothing regardless whether you're a good and courageous person or not, as evidence by the stepfamily.

@NoscoSays

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 I was referring to some people's attitude towards the animated film, not this one.

Feminism is about equality. That means female characters should feel, hurt, and be hurt just like the male ones. How is that so difficult for filmmakers to grasp?

@johnmartin4119

5 жыл бұрын

Phabel Greene it's a lot easier to just pander. Look at the old action films like Rambo or Top Gun where the heroes always seem perfect and never seem to loose. If the goal is the Bear minimum then that's all people will achieve. Especially if a filmmaker is either misguided in what makes a good story is and grew up on pandering or treats filmmaking as a job to make money to feed their self and/or their families.

@yveltalpoderoso1303

4 жыл бұрын

John Martin even in those movies the main characters got hurt or feel vulnerable at times

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

John Martin Well put! Thank you for that. That is the problem with a lot of movies now. Something else to consider though is that men and women have different desires (most of the time), so making male and female heroes experience different things, in my opinion, isn't inequality, just recognizing both need representation but are different, this doesn't justify terrible writing but it does explain why different stories/genres are dedicated to representing either. Obviously there are exceptions, and that's why we have made characters more diverse. Also that's how audiences might identify with heroes of the opposite gender now and then, (at least I do).

@alibrennan5977

3 жыл бұрын

Status quo?

@dannyjorde2677

2 жыл бұрын

Feminism is not equality, though. It's about fighting against the discrimination suffered by women, regardless of whether men also suffer it.

I think the dress tearing scene was a bit more traumatic in the animated version not only because the dress was completely ripped to shreds but also because the stepmother gave Cinderella hope. She told her that she could go to the ball if she had something to wear and finished her chores. Live action Cinderella never had that guarantee. Cinderella had her hopes purposely built up and then smashed to bits.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+Jenny 1010 This makes the animated Cinderella come off as an idiot for believing her stepmother would actually allow her to go to the ball. She spend nearly a decade with that woman, surely she must have picked up on her behaviour and personality during all this time. First she tells Cinderella to "hold her tongue", than she says "how many times she had told her not to interrupt" and then she allows her to go to the ball in a very suspicious way. Jesus, Cindy, you're so stupid.

@annalabagaba

8 жыл бұрын

+0deadx21 sounds more like Stockholm syndrome the stupidity.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+Anna Remler That would have been fucking useful to see, but the animated movie prefers telling over showing way too much, that is when they actually bother to do either. Things are just there, there's no development, there's barely any focus on anything important.

@bryannacassidy1806

8 жыл бұрын

Also in the animated version she almost got to go until her stepmother pointed certain things out.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

Casey J I'm talking about that the animated film is weak, with everything it tried to accomplish movie-wise.

While I have yet to see this current Cinderella, I definitely have to agree that people don't give the animated Cinderella enough credit. People tend to think all she did was wait around and dreamed about marrying a prince, when in reality, she lost her mother and father, got stuck with three abusive people who tried to make every ounce of her life miserable. ANYONE who can put up with all the crap the animated Cinderella did and still find some happiness in their lives is strong in my book. Like you two said, she earned her happy ending through karma. She more than deserved to be happy. :)

"CALL THE DOG! CALL THE DOG! THROW THE CAT OUT THE FUCKING WINDOW IF YOU HAVE TO! DO WHATEVER YOU GOTTA DO TO GET ME THE FUCK OUTTA THIS ROOM!" LMFAO

Cinderella doesn't work as a "strong independent woman who don't need no man". She's basically a girl with nowhere to go being abused by the only source of authority in her life.

I love Rob's point about good female characters not needing to be butch action heroes. Completely agree!

@Actar_Raikit

9 жыл бұрын

mysterioso2006 Tell me about it. But even if they are all portrayed as butch action heroes, the feminists will complain about how they're just "male characters in a female body". Seriously, you can never win because they keep shifting the goalposts.

@Lauren_210

6 жыл бұрын

mysterioso2006 Me too. I can think of plenty of strong animated female characters who are not physically badass/swinging weapons like Mrs. Brisby, Ginger, Miriam, Belle, Tiana, Fiona, Nani, Kala, etc.

@alfa01spotivo

6 жыл бұрын

Lauren210 Sarah Connor, Ripley, Valkyrie, Black Widow, Leia, Wonder Woman

@davidstone281

Жыл бұрын

If u want a fantastic example of a strong female character that's not an "Ellen Ripley" or "Sarah Connor" etc Look at Mrs Brisby in The Secret of Nimh

@JamesRindall

7 ай бұрын

@@Actar_Raikit Those arent real feminist. Those are rich white feminist.

as a girl, I too saw Cinderella as a hardworking girl, not some damsel. I thought it was obvious

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

XxAngiexXRPI In the animated film, Cinderella was not a heroine. She never did anything.

@XxAngiexXRPI

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 I never said she was a hero, she at least tried to get away from her family. She doesn't need to be a hero. This isn't some larger than life story. It's about a girl who has to put up with bullshit all the time in her life, and just wants something to make her happy, to escape the shitty life she has. Should she have tried to leave her family sooner? yes, but she at least TRIED TO DO SOMETHING.

@XxAngiexXRPI

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Doug already states the moral. I'm not going to argue about this. I don't even really like the movie.

@ellie2041

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately a lot of people saw her as a weak damsel wanting someone to come save her which in reality she wasnt expecting that at all. She wanted to go to the ball because she has been isolated her whole life and that she just wanted one time where she could have a little freedom. The shoe fitting scene was amazing to her because she wasn't expecting to have anything other than that one night. So of course she'd be excited about getting to Marry a handsome stranger she met at the dance.

The ship sinks in the titanic? THANKS FOR SPOILLERS! YOU RUINED MY LIFE SOMEHOW BY DOING THIS!

@RasoKye

9 жыл бұрын

I know right? They told me the ship was unsinkable.

@cassandraskyler

9 жыл бұрын

Nice

@GreenSunGreenStar

9 жыл бұрын

Here I thought it was saved by whales and a octopus with a dog's face.

@berpipo

9 жыл бұрын

GreenSunGreenStar that's just the offical story.

@MistressArte

9 жыл бұрын

pipo berber Dolphins helped to save them, or an Octopus in some versions. XD

Im a feminist, and a women. I adore both Cinderella and Snow White as characters. They are patient, kind, resourceful, hardworking, and deserve to escape the abusive situations they were forced into. For the time period of the movies are set in as well as when the movies were made these woman are well rounded and actions make sense. All Cinderella wanted was a night away from abuse, she was rewarded a lifetime of happiness. Female characters don't have to all be 'strong woman', they have to exist, be relatable, and well written

@ezrablock3218

8 жыл бұрын

+SylphofVoid13 Well said. Characters should be good characters, nothing more, nothing less.

@rebeccaclark9131

8 жыл бұрын

+SylphofVoid13 Okay i admit that cinderella and Snow often get far more hate than either deserve and I also do not need my female characters to all be Katniss Everdeen but I'd argue that this version of Cinderella simply didn't have enough spine to be well written. I mean one example is when she gets kicked out of her room, into a room that is basically pneumonia in waiting and her only response is "oh, okay'. This works in the 1950's version because Cinderella is just a child, but in this version she's a full grown adult yet her "kindness" goes to such extent she becomes a total pushover, to the point of being unhealthy. Also another thing that didn't work in this version is that fact that "months" go past between the ball and the shoe fitting and yet Cinderella does nothing to go out and find the prince herself? Why?

@oldiesvideos1826

5 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccaclark9131 The first movie made more sense because there was a stronger implication of Cinderella being a "prisoner in her own home", having been "brainwashed" since childhood to believe she must serve her family, and presumed as knowing very little about the outside world. So it made sense that the ball was her main and possibly only chance of escape.

@TheKat12364

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccaclark9131 Yes this new one tries making her independent enough to go to the market and her friend even asks her why she stays, its my home, which as a motivation make no sense because she ends up leaving it anyway for the prince. the 1950's cinderella is so much stronger

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

SylphofVoid13 I love that. I agree completely. They need to be well written. It's less about their qualities (strong, independent, etc), and more about the quality of those qualities. Just having a personality, virtue, and desires is a good base for any protagonist wether their virtues are courage, fortitude, and simple integrity (Cap America), or the lesson learned be understanding, forgiveness, and swallowing pride for a greater good (Princess Merida (who is underrated and misinterpreted)).

The image of Tim Curry as the Fairy Godmother is now burned into my skull.

@nolandavis1129

5 жыл бұрын

Magruder or nick cage

@randombrokeperson

5 жыл бұрын

Is it such a bad thing?

@micahabrams5899

4 жыл бұрын

I want to see that movie

@johnmartin4119

4 жыл бұрын

Especially if it’s Tim Curry’s Dr Frankenfurther as the Fairy Godmother

You guys said it best though. The reason why the original step mother and even Maleficent are considered the greatest Disney villains is because they're freaking terrifying. They don't need a motivation or complex backstory explaining how or why they are evil. Sometimes that presence and tone that they bring onscreen is just enough. People need to understand that a villain's purpose is to challenge and test the protagonist. To make them go though all these impossible odds that goes against their truths or beliefs. Backstory or motivation isn't necessarily a requirement unless it plays a big part in the story as a whole.

I also noticed a little difference that really changes the ballroom scene. Its common for Cinderella to be in the middle of the ballroom when she first interacts with the prince, with all eyes on her. The original Disney version? The prince sees her in the dark hallway. He leaves the ballroom to chase after the person behind the big crowd. No one else sees her till she walks in on the prince's arm, which causes as much of a stir. Letting him be the first person to see her flows like love at first site on his terms, not by the crowd's terms and influence. Its a little touch that is really cute.

@alexinburtonland

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I literally have been saying that no other version does that! I also picked up the argument of why she’s not recognised by everyone especially the step family…but when I watched it again a) the kingdom won’t know who she is because she’s been kept in that house isolated and b) the step family are behind a crowd and are trying to catch a glimpse of her, it’s only when Cinderella gets close for a spilt second the stepmother almost recognises her but the curtain is closed before she gets a better look. That was so much better than just oh magic that know one can tell who she is…lame excuse

@alexp.d3689

3 ай бұрын

​​​@@alexinburtonland In Perrault's version the prince went out to welcome a guest that just arrived, and when he enters the ballroom with her people start chatting ( Oh,how beautiful she , how beautiful she is,she must be a princess ),she interacted with the sister's and back at home they talk about the mystery girl they interacted with at the ball ,and Cinderella has the attitude of " Tell me more about this amazing, beautiful woman that I DEFINITELY have no idea who she could possibly be ... 😏😂😂 ".Asked for a dress to attend the ball tomorrow to see the mystery maiden, but Charlotte ( the older meaner sister ) shuts her down and says " Yeah to be sure,lent my cloths to such a dirty cinderwench as you are ...I would be such a fool ..!!! ",then the narrator tells us that Cinderella was joking and expected that answer and basically trolls the sister's.Them not recognising her makes sense in Perrault's because it highlights how shallow the sister's are, treating her differently based on what she wears While Cinderella treats them with kindness and respect regardless of how she's dressed

Disney should stop making live action remakes of their animated classics

@Beanoz4

9 жыл бұрын

At least they're better than the DTV sequels

@crazysmith01

9 жыл бұрын

I honestly liked the one with time travel. Apart from that, they are pretty boring

@AlexTalArt

9 жыл бұрын

maybe re release the animated ones on blu ray or something. or do a fairy tale they haven't done yet. but this is just sad, its like they ran out of ideas.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Sophie Talia Cinderella (2015) is a far superior live-action Cinderella movie than any other live-action Cinderella movie you can think of.

@patanu

9 жыл бұрын

Joakim1400 What's that? I'm sorry I can't quite here you over all of this money!

Ella has always been her name, ever since the original fairy tale. The Cinder part comes from how she sleeps by the fire and gets covered in cinders. This is explained in a few adaptations, too. Ella Enchanted and the Rogers and Hammerstein's musical both mention it. Her name was _never_ actually Cinderella. It's Ella. I think that was a mistake on the part of the opening narration in the original Disney film. THANK YOU. I hate how people rag on Cinderella for being anti-feminist. She's not. It's like hating on an abuse victim for not getting out, because _she actually is one_. They don't beat her, but they try and mentally tear her down and physically abuse her by overworking her rather than beating her. The opening narration even refers to her as being abused and humiliated before she was forced to become a servant, and then we see more of her being abused by her stepfamily. She wasn't in a position where she could just up and leave. She had nowhere to go, and she couldn't fight back. People are unfair to her because what ends up getting her out of the situation is a man. Which I think is unfair, it's actually the fact that he's a prince that saves her. They can't stop her from marrying a prince, but they could prevent her from marrying, say, a blacksmith. They're her legal guardians, and nobility at that if I remember right. Like the stepfamily's motivation was just pure jealousy. That's it. They wanted to keep her down because they were jealous. They wanted her to work to make her defeated and rough, but it failed. But they didn't take joy in tearing her down, they took _satisfaction_ that they were putting her in a place that made them feel secure in themselves. In the new version, they take joy in it, and that's the mistake. Even in _Cinderella III_, the château is shown to be nowhere near the town and beyond a forest and a meadow. It's clearly very far out on the outskirts of the kingdom. True, she's shown to be able to ride a horse bareback, but she's also in a situation where she has no choice. She's barefoot on a mountain path in a race against time. What I didn't like was how she treated Lucifer in that movie around that same time. She kinda just left him there. I mean the problem really is that _Cinderella III_ is trying too hard to appeal to a feminist audience when there was nothing anti-feminist in the first place. They turn Cinderella into an action girl who takes charge of her destiny, but in fighting for her prince, it takes away from why Cinderella was in the situation she was in the first place. I love the movie, don't get me wrong, Lindsay was right to name it the least awful Disney sequel, but it sort of clashes with why she stayed for so long. If you ignore that, it's a great movie. Also I have no desire to see this movie because I don't trust Disney's choices for these new live action movies, since they think _Emma Watson_ is a good fit for Belle. Which considering how Hermione was played, I really don't trust her to take the role seriously and be this level-headed brainy young woman with control over her emotions. I heartily disagree that she fits, but Merlin knows I'm the only person on earth who does.

@avrilfantasyrin

9 жыл бұрын

No, stop spreading this lie, no stories or in any adaption of Cinderella is her name Ella, it was made by the Americans, neither the German, Italian, nor French version has this Ella name, because no one at that time wants that cliché

@aromaladyellie

9 жыл бұрын

Cinder came from how she slept by the fire and was always covered in cinders. Ella is logically therefore, her name, unless "Ella" means "woman" or "girl", because Cinderlad followed the same theme.

@avrilfantasyrin

9 жыл бұрын

tiny punkabuu​​​​​​​​ no it's not, Cinderella is only the translated title of Cendrillon ou La Petite Pantoufle de verre in French, there is no such name of Ella except the British and American made up name for her because it has somewhat of a girl name at the end, even her other title is Aschenputtel in German, and Cenerentola in Italian has no indication of the name Ella, or any other name really, The only version that she has a name in it is in the Italian and Egyptian version, as she is called Zezolla and Rhodopis in Egypt, but this movie is not based off either version, so the naming part is completely made up by the director or the famous Twilight : New Moon writer

@aromaladyellie

9 жыл бұрын

avrilfantasyrin Ella is a name, and one with a German meaning, at that. French, too. In both languages they mean "All". English/American meaning is "beautiful fairy". Also, her name is Ella in _Ella Enchanted_, as well, so it's not just made up for this movie. The fairytale book I have implies her name is Ella, as well, and as far as I know, it's a translation of the original, since it talks about how she shares fruit with her stepsisters over three nights, wearing increasingly gaudy gowns. The name doesn't come out of nowhere. One more thing- it's not a LIE. A lie means I'm purposely giving out information I know is wrong. Being misinformed is different. Consider that before you go flinging around accusations. Thanks for the history lesson, but drop the accusatory tone and try politely pointing out mistakes to people.

@marisp2588

9 жыл бұрын

This is the longest comment I have ever seen.

The scenes with the mice in the original, especially the ones involving Lucifer chasing the mice, still make for a better Tom & Jerry movie than the "actual" Tom & Jerry movie.

@alexp.d3689

3 ай бұрын

And they actually influenced the plot,the first one Guss Guss gets chased by Lucifer,ends up under a tea cup 🍶 and Anastasia blames her for putting " a big fat ugly mouse under her tea cup " and without it we wouldn't have the scene with the step mother stroking the cat on the Bed .The second one is Gus and Zack get stuff for Cinderella's dress and try to get stuff the sisters discarded and puts their lifes on the line for the shake of her happiness and directly leads to the sister's tearing the dress ( which in the remake not ONLY there's no bargain with the stepmother, she made it explicitly clear she Won't allow her to go with them, Cinderella is not as overworked and has time to make the dress herself making the mice pointless, and the dress tearing is not nearly as horrifying as the original and it's completely unprovoked .In the original the stepmother manipulates the sister's and they tear the dress while she watches in satisfaction.And last the scene with the key 🗝️

30:30 Exactly! Girls can still be feminine and be very compelling characters at the same time. But nowadays there seems to be this ridiculous hatred of femininity. Restraining women into just the role of "strong woman" doesn't make them better characters, it makes them pretty damn boring and unappealing stereotypes.

@wierdalien1

8 жыл бұрын

+redragon88 isn't that belle?

@alysonblackwood3099

8 жыл бұрын

That's why Margery Tyrell is one of my favorite Game of Thrones characters, she's feminine and knows how to use it. That's something I like about GoT in general, you have a great range of female characters who are all trying to get what they want, whatever that may be, in their own way.

@BloodyRomance1313

8 жыл бұрын

+Alistair Shaw not really. Belle is still feminine, well the "text book definition" of feminine so to speak. But her intelligence, her inner strength, and her love for her father make her unique. People love belle because they see a kind woman who doesn't fall for other people's shit (see Gaston).

@wierdalien1

8 жыл бұрын

BloodyRomance1313 That was my point. In fact I said exactly what you said previously.

@jarekgunther

8 жыл бұрын

Couldn't possibly agree more. A character isn't interesting if you give them a weapon or a confident personality. You need to make them interesting. You need to give insights on their conflicts so we can relate to them. You can't relate to a flawless character.

Dr Seuss said he never went into writing his books with a moral in mind because children can see a forced moral from a mile away. It shows in his writing that he was just telling a story that happens to have a moral. In this movie, the moral is shoved so far down the audience's throat that it's almost like it's trying to kill you.

In the first Cinderella I always kinda thought that she was always being strong to get by and survive, but also because the stepmother might have been looking for any sign of her cracking to throw her in an asylum. That did happen to people a lot back then

Personally , I was in it for the dress....

@crashschwarzen4642

7 жыл бұрын

jaymillymills I am a guy and even I can say, that dress was fucking beautiful

"This is little girl porn" Bet that's not a sound bite you want out there! XD

@kestrelraptorial689

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, poor choice of words there, but you know what they actually meant.

@gokuxsephiroth4505

7 жыл бұрын

Kestrel raptorial Absolutely. Doesn't mean I can't laugh

i gotta say, i now have so much more respect for the animated one

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

A ha. And what's your respect for the 2015 version?

@AlexTalArt

9 жыл бұрын

not a lot

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Sophie Talia Why? Jealous it did a better job?

@AlexTalArt

9 жыл бұрын

no sad that some how it managed to push feminism and good storytelling back 100 years or so.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Sophie Talia Exactly what fucking decade do you think the movie takes place in? I don't know what you expected. Why the fuck does a female character need to represent the entire gender? They're not even properly doing that to begin with. Everyone in the movie is their own character. They represent themselves, as they should, not a group. You're stupid.

I just want to point out that in the animated Cinderella, AT LEAST Cinderella CARES about the rats' well-being. She protects them from the cat. She feeds them. She makes them tiny little clothes. In THIS Cinderella, the ONLY THING she does for the damn mice is give them a hard-ass, sweaty, cold, glass shoe to sleep in (and MAYBE save one of them from the cat hissing at them.) They help with the work. They make her dress. They give her a ride to the ball. They SAVE HER LIFE by getting the princes' attention at the end when SHE is spinning and singing like a feather-brained ninny, rather than trying to get out. And the narrator OUTRIGHT SAYS that she just GAVE UP. And this is how she thanks them.

I've been watching ever after since i was a kid and I've come to realize, damn its a fucking good movie :D Its one of the few romance movies that I love and don't get tired of watching, and throught out the years have grown more fond of due to understanding more of it. I've also gotten a greater appreciation for the classic Cinderella due to hearing the childhoods of my cousin's mom's and grandmothers. Abandoned by their fathers, mothers dead or severly ill, lost their homes everything they ever had, they had to resort as working as maids, just to survive. They didn't even get paid for their work, they didn't get to have an education because they were washing clothes by hand, washing tile floor on their knees, ironing late into the night just for a piece of bread and scraps of food. They lived like this for many years untill they were finally old enough to go some place else and start their lives with their husbands who were iether supportive or just abondoned them with several kids to take care of. And dispite all their suffering they didn't lose their own minds and they didn't abondon their children. They worked their asses off so that their children didn't have to work like they did so that they could go to school and have a decent line of work and get paid to at least have more than just scraps of food and rags for clothes. I've realized that just like Cinderella these women had nothing for most of their lives, nothing except for hope. It was the one thing that kept them going and made it possible for them to have more than just nothing.

At 28:00 you make an excellent point Rob. They keep saying "Be kind and have courage." But what does she ever do that involves courage? Yes she is kind to the point of almost being a Jesus allegory, but she never shows courage or does anything courageous.

@momowoods2859

5 жыл бұрын

OMG Yes! and Thank u!,This is my fav. video that they have ever done b/c everything they were saying its true..Except when Rob say about the original cinderella is/kept "ignorant" [which I disagreed] part b/c it's kind of goes against what their saying about the original stepmother controlling her and cinderella always keep on doing chores around the house,but overall L

@asahk7419

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say staying in that house just because it is the only thing she has that has any connection to her parents despite the abuse she has to endure is courage. I'm not saying if someone runs away from abuse they are not courageous, but staying when you can leave is hard. However, I might be wrong - there's a deleted scene in which the fairy godmother basically says Ella is underage or at least a dependant on the step-mother. So the stepmother is literally her guardian, so if Ella runs away, she can report her and force her to come back. (Probably wouldn't have done that, but the point is she could have) So maybe Ella wasn't there by choice, but because she had no other choice. She had to stay until she was older or married. In that case, that's not courage. Although, putting up with the stepmother and stepsisters is superhuman patience.

Cinderella was a derogatory NICKNAME in EVERY ADAPTATION

@Usernamesdontmatter1

9 жыл бұрын

Really? Point out where it was said in the animated disney adaptation where it was said her real name was Ella.

@AlexGamerKid

9 жыл бұрын

Commenting to see response for animated version

@Jansci7G

9 жыл бұрын

darkfur3 Technically, "Cinderella" is derived from "Cendrillon" (a portmanteau of "cendre"/ash and scullion). Her real name only started being Ella in English retellings, particularly Leslie Caron's "Ella." But yeah, Cinderella was meant to be a cruel nickname in the original Perrault story; her sisters also use "Cinderwench," which this remake also alludes to. Disney originally screwed up by making it her real name in the 1950's animated version. Cinderella starts out the beloved daughter of a nobleman....it is really unlikely he would give her a name that invokes ash.

@Usernamesdontmatter1

9 жыл бұрын

Jansci7G So.....it's stated nowhere in the animated movie and basically everything afterward that it wasn't her real name. Right...so it's not in EVERY ADAPTATION.

@DigiRangerScott

9 жыл бұрын

darkfur3 Your reading comprehension skills suck

If you really want am empowered version of Cinderella as a character, even if this is not Cinderella but it has similar elements, watch "Ella Enchanted". She's proactive, she's intelligent, she has desires and works hard to get what she wants. Not to mention that she's badass. I know people hate Anne Hathaway, but I really don't see why. I'm surprised Doug missed that movie when he was reviewing the live-action Disney films for Disneycember last year.

@NJ_Dsneybuf

9 жыл бұрын

He probably missed it because it came out through Miramax, which Disney doesn't own anymore. Wikipedia says Disney still owns the movie, but doesn't list a source next to the fact-Not to mention Lionsgate released the Blu-Ray, not Disney.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL CINDERELLA ADAPTATIONS, NOT PARODIES OR INSPIRATIONS LIKE ELLA ENCHANTED AND EVER AFTER. Do you fuckers even know what Cinderella's character is about? Cuz the 2015 film seems to be only one in existance that does. Danielle from Ever After is not Cinderella! Ella from Ella Enchanted is not Cinderella! Brandy from Cinderella (1997) is not Cinderella! None of them understand Cinderella's character. They either don't care, or try way too hard. Lily James is the only one who was spot on. Finally Cinderella was Cinderella and it's amazing it has taken this long to get her right.

@greendiamondglow

9 жыл бұрын

I really did not like that movie. At all. When I found out it was based on a book, I didn't want to read it. I thought, "How could a book worth the paper and ink it's printed on have spawned such a terrible, pointless movie?" I mean it made Carey Elwes look bad. I LOVE Carey Elwes. And I think Anne Hathaway's pretty good, too. But some friends of mine were huge fans of the book. They insisted I read it, and ignore the train wreck that was the movie. And I enjoyed the noise out of the book. Don't get me wrong, I try to go in to movie adaptations of books with an open mind. Of course a book is going to be more detailed an engaging than a movie, but that doesn't automatically mean the movie will be bad. But "Ella Enchanted"... yikes.

@RyanStorey1231

9 жыл бұрын

Camille Pendragon How was the movie bad compared to the book? I haven't read the original book, though I intend to at some point.

@greendiamondglow

9 жыл бұрын

It's a while since I've seen it, so I can't pin point a specific thing. I just remember watching the movie and thinking WHY am I still watching this? I can only think it was because I hadn't seen Carey Elewes in anything in so long, i really wanted to enjoy it. But Carey's character was the worst part of an already terrible, manic movie. His character isn't even in the book.

The thing is Cinderella especially in this isn't a peasant girl. She was the child of a very wealthy merchant. Yes in the animated movie it was implied she was also wealthy but she's was so young that she probably forgot about her status. I think the kingdom will be fine if their prince marries a merchant or noble's daughter.

@SevenEllen

4 жыл бұрын

Good point! The father had money, hence why the wicked step-mother married him at all. The narrator even said in the beginning that the house fell into disrepair because the stepmother and stepsisters squandered the father's fortune.

Fairy godmother in fact have possible explanation.. in fact two: First is that as many of old European families believe, that they are descendants of some magical being. In this case Fairy Godmother is in fact her relative, and that would also explain why Cinderella see animals as more humanized then other characters see. Other explanation for not fairy tale versions is that she could have simply rich aunt or other relative, who like her but was unable to adopt her for some reasons. Such person simply could borrow her dress in time of need. PS: NC and his brother obviously didn't feel this movie.

Bad or no, this "updated" Cinderella is still MILES better than Maleficent!!

@oscarstainton

9 жыл бұрын

barbaro267 As an adaptation of either the Charles Perrault story or the Disney classic, it barely measures up. For starters, making Maleficent a victimized antihero was a terrible move when I was expecting a true villainous protagonist, i.e. the Maleficent I knew and loved in the original. Having the king be the bad guy was uninspired, the fairies were horrendously stupid and the script was terribly written. It felt like an insult to Sleeping Beauty fans. They took a great villain and made her a boring antihero. As an elseworld story completely unrelated to the original, I could let it slide. But as the "true story" behind the original, then it's just disposable.

@scorpiocarnage1055

9 жыл бұрын

Oscar Stainton The problem is that they didn't make her an antihero. They literally made her a sympathetic victim who turned bad because of Stefan's betrayal. But I discovered something about Disney. When they have a protagonist, the good guy has to have a happy ending. That was their first mistake. It's not that Maleficent can't have a happy ending but there could have been a redemption story AFTER the events of Sleeping Beauty. But honestly, they should have stopped being stingy and let another company do it. Make Maleficent the petty baddy she is. I mean cursing a baby because you didn't get an invite, that's cruel. I mean no offense though. The fact that she was willing to do that shows that she definitely earned her rep as a villain. But she could turn into a dragon! A fire-breathing dragon! They didn't want to show her ripping villages apart, stealing girls out of jealousy or whatever, stealing boys for whatever purposes to show her evilness? *sigh* But that's Disney for you.

@xgray2012

9 жыл бұрын

That I can agree on.

@PeanutsAssorted

9 жыл бұрын

Oscar Stainton Agreed. I've said it several times in my life but god I never tire of saying it... Maleficent took the greatest disney villain of all time, someone who literally described herself as "The Mistress of all Evil"... and turned her into a woodnymph that got raped by a king and tried to get revenge, but then instantly regretted it and was good the entire time. The only good scene in Maleficent is the scene where they literally just took Maleficents entrance from the original movie and recreated it. That scene was amazing, I was so so so happy seeing it. I thought that maybe they were going to keep that tone throughout the entire movie from then on out and I'd of been happy... and then the line "She shall prick her finger on the spindle of a spinning wheel and fall into a deep deep sleep like death" and I swear, in the middle of the almost empty cinema I was in, I yelled out "OH COME ON!" and actually face palmed, it was such a fail

@oscarstainton

9 жыл бұрын

***** Ohh boy, don't even get me started. Although I'd be very happy to see the Walker Brothers tear into it in a full 50 minutes like this video!

"You need to torture her more!" - Rob Walker 2015 "No, you do!" - Douglas Walker 2015

@johnmartin4119

3 жыл бұрын

It is supposed to be an abusive home so yeah torture her, otherwise we won’t be as sympathetic to the hero

Ok, I'm hoping this trend of making sequels/prequels/remakes of classics dies violently. This kind of money-grubbing irritates me to no end.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+Sam Geuvenen WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

L. T C. I'm not fat, you turd. And how's getting laid beneficial to anyone in the long term.

@l.tc.5032

8 жыл бұрын

+0deadx21 I'm sorry that was uncalled for.

@The11jones

8 жыл бұрын

+Sam Geuvenen It will be like the Dr. Seuss movies i guess..............i liked the Grinch but most people just say it as a money grab for a terrible movie. The Cat in the Hat murdered the idea of doing live action Dr. Seuss movies because it was so bad. Im fairly sure thats the reason that they switched to doing animated adaptations of Dr. Seuss movies after that. The animated movies werent good, but they were better than Cat in the Hat. I dont want it to get to that point though, but i have a hard time imagining that people will be forgiving if they butcher Beauty and the Beast's live action adaptation.

@Lady_Yuna

8 жыл бұрын

I'm worried about Tim Burton's Dumbo.

poor rey, she gets always been discriminated for beeing a mary sue even thought the actual mary sue of 2015 was this cindirella. I think max Landis was talking about her I nsted of rey

@dragonsword8129

8 жыл бұрын

+Isobel Rose Good to hear there's people defending her.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

Mary Sues don't make fun of people behind their backs and don't sass. This Cinderella does both.

@motor4X4kombat

8 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 still a mary sue. even both rob and doug put it in their acounts: "you want to know a real mary sue? go and watch cinderella 2015. at least give rey some credit, at least she fucking care of what the hell is going on around her, and she dosn't look the obstacles like easy shit. you can bitch that she is a little overpower or that you don't know if she trained or not, but don't bitch that she believe that shes more perfect than anyone else, since she just wanna survive.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

motor4X4kombat By that logic, Aang from Avatar is a Mary Sue. Or in this case a Gary Stu.

@0816M3RC

7 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 You got a real hard on for this movie? Aang did WAY more and put in more effort than this Cinderella ever did. It is like comparing apples to oranges. Your comparisons are really awful.

Hey, you need to bring your wives into one of these reviews. It would be funny to see.

57:32 The manliest ear-scratch in recorded history. So much is said with that simple motion: "Not sure how I'll do it, but I'm gonna disrupt the status quo today." Pure poetry!

What does Cinderella not leaving her situation have to do with feminism? What does falling in love with a guy have to do with feminism? Absolutely fucking nothing. Feminism is the advocacy of equal rights between women and men. It has nothing to do with being a victim of domestic abuse, and it has nothing to do with your views of an ideal romantic life. It's a really stupid argument when people say that Cinderella is not a good feminine icon because she doesn't leave her situation (which is kinda victim blaming if you think about it), as well as the argument where people say that because she falls in love with someone, (while it was a short amount of time that they started to fall for each other, which I think is stupid) she's a bad feminine icon

The Ella bit is actually from the fairytale, Cinder being like from cinders, ash because she was always covered in dirt from being forced to clean

@MadnessofMarcy

9 жыл бұрын

Tristan Petty Just to let you know, not allot of movie critics read the original text. It stops any extra influence from shifting his idea and opinion of the movie.

So, this actually kind of surprises me. First off, I'm with Doug and Rob on the original. I think it gets a bad rap, and while its plot has several problems and unfortunate implications, it's still got some really great stuff, and, on top of that, gorgeous animation. And while I still think the original is better from an artistic point, I was very pleasantly surprised by the re-make. I thought Cinderella was on par with her animated counterpart, but I also thought everyone else was given some much needed development, especially the Prince and the Stepmother.

@paradoxacres1063

9 жыл бұрын

I get that Rob & Doug kinda _need_ to address the *differences* between this Cinderella and every other movie "version" (Ever After, 1950 Cinderella, etc), but..I didn't mind how "passive" Ella is in this movie. Maybe I'm too forgiving (everything needs to be feminist & "pro-active", I guess) but I saw this version as an *introvert* who's very kind & gentle because she's clinging on to what's left of her mother (and maybe father, too). _She's the nicest person stuck in the worst situation_.

@harrietamidala1691

9 жыл бұрын

Paradox Acres Also, there is also something to consider--Cinderella is living during a time when women did not have a lot of life options. I think you can make a compelling character out of Cinderella if you focus on her psychology and give her complex emotions.

@blixer8384

9 жыл бұрын

Paradox Acres I completely agree. I personally believe this Cinderella is a good a role model. She stays positive, she works hard, was kind to her step family, and in the end she forgave them. I also believe that the reason she didn't leave was that Ella had grown up their, she had fond memories their, and friends their. She was not ready to be able to give them up. In the end she left to be with the man she loved bring a portrait of both her parents to the castle. Could it have been better? Yeah, no movie is perfect, but by no means is this new Cinderella an atrocity. Their are plenty worse films. So I personally would recommend this movie, and i will respect the opinions of the movies critics and supporters. Also Cinderella is no longer a disney princess. The king is dead, leaving the Kit the only ruling monarch. Cinderella is now a queen. :D

@paradoxacres1063

9 жыл бұрын

harrietamidala1691 Agreed. You can make Cinderella a complex character, but..it's also possible that movie creators are *confined* by the story itself: they HAVE to show the dancing, the gown, the fairy godmother and the mice. In the end, it's the "Disney formula" that proves to be its own undoing: so many iconic moments they have to include in the movie means so little time to explore new themes.

@harrietamidala1691

9 жыл бұрын

Emmett Leone-Woods I still think the stepmother should have come into Cinderella's life when she's a child (and possibly still in mourning of her mother's death).

Aladdin was the movie that thought me to be kind to people. He's nice to the carpet and it pretty much pledges loyalty to him and saves his life on several occasions. He's nice to the Genie and he gives him what he asks for plus a mountain of interest.

She was always Ella in the original fairy tale. BTW read the old fairy tale versions, you had the step sisters cutting their toes and getting their eyes plugged out, now that is hardcore.

@tristanpetty4713

9 жыл бұрын

That was the Grimm version. Not the Charles Perrault version which this version and the other Disney version borrowed from.

@Loopyloualways

9 жыл бұрын

Watch into the woods cinderellas stepsisters cut their toes and ankles out and get blinded by birds

@isobelduncan

7 жыл бұрын

The very first Cinderella was actually from China.

No matter what, I do appreciate you guys watching the originals before going to a remake, it gives you a strong leg to stand on when discussing comparisons, and the freshness of the memories helps bring back what a lot of people forget over time.

Wait, the ship fucking sinks in Titanic?! Thanks for the spoiler :(

@JavierPerez-cx4jw

8 жыл бұрын

SPOILERS!: The Titanic sinks, Sleeping Beauty wakes up, Vader's the father, Brad Pitt wasn't real, and the aliens are weak to water.

@JavierPerez-cx4jw

8 жыл бұрын

***** And Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.

@inferno9714

8 жыл бұрын

+Javier Perez And Rosebud is Kane's sled.

@derekchauvinistrockwellthe4917

8 жыл бұрын

+Shut Up & Bazinga! Lol whats in the BOOOOOX?!

@burningexeter4365

8 жыл бұрын

Well, here's a question for everyone. What did Bill Murray whisper to Scarlett Johansson.

How different a movie it would have been if Cinderella was in fact raising an Willard style army of rats.

@Jansci7G

9 жыл бұрын

Replace rats with pigeons, and you essentially got yourself the Grimms' version. Enjoy! Yes, there's bloodshed.

@PhoenixRising87

9 жыл бұрын

That might actually be cool...

@JessycaLunawoona

9 жыл бұрын

Jansci7G aren't all the Grimm fairytales dark and bloody though? I actually prefer the Grimms' version over this one. :3

@xgray2012

9 жыл бұрын

That would actually be more of a Grimm brothers-style meets Wes Craven version, if you'd ask me.

@KIRA-EL

9 жыл бұрын

***** Ha! Whats up!

My favorite version of Cinderella is "Ella Enchanted"--the book, the movie can rot in hell. Ella in that book is a great character, she's funny and rebellious, and she actively tries to improve her situation despite what's happened to her. I like the idea that the reason she's put in this situation of servitude is because she was put under a curse as an infant, and she HAS to obey every order ever given to her, but in spite of this she's always trying to find loopholes she can use to subvert the orders she'd given. That is how an updated, proactive Cinderella SHOULD be.

@kymrobinson7727

9 жыл бұрын

I agree. I really wish they would remake the movie and actually follow the book. I don't know why the hell they changed the story anyway.

About the stepmother's plan. She really didn't think this through. Even if Cinderella didn't immediately rat out the stepmother when they got the palace, her plan would still fall apart. When Cinderella marries the prince, who at this point in the movie is king already, she becomes queen. She and her husband will have more power than the stepmother could shake a stick at. They'd be surrounded by advisers, guards,ect and be busy running the kingdom. There's no way she'd be able ruin their lives from her position unless she wants to try for all-out treason. At best, she'd be the queen's annoying stepmother who keeps butting in where she doesn't belong. If she makes Cinderella queen and think she can continue to abuse her, it's going to go about as well for her as it did for Viserys.

Wait, do you mean to say Louis Lane in the animated series was intelligent? I never got that at all. I thought her main traits were more competitiveness and enthusiasm, which is what constantly got her into trouble. I struggle to recall any situation where she did any thinking BEFORE rushing in. One of my favorite parts of that show was the series of episodes in which they addressed how dumb secret identities are. Clark wants to tell her that he is Superman, but she winds up in the hospital for some reason, and he decides its too dangerous from him to be around her, so he finds another job. The ultimate conclusion to this is him seeing Louis, who literally just walked out the door of the hospital, hear something about someone causing some sort of havoc, call dibs, jump out of her wheelchair, and run right at it. Here, Superman realized what Spiderman should have realized a thousand or so times by now, its her own darn fault that she is in danger, and it is actually SAFER for him to stay close to her.

I know this is an older video but I just wanted to point out how much I loved Cinderella as a kid. Exactly as you guys described, I aspired to be as kind, and hard working as Cinderella. I thought it showed great strength that she remained kind (as the narration mentions) even when she had the worst conditions. I wanted to be like her. Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella was also a huge favorite. This one? Eh.

I agree 100% too many people crap on the animated Cinderella. I'm so glad they pointed out how that character actually had some tenacity and charm (but she was smart about it) and so feminists are too quick to say it isn't PC but she was actually doing everything she could to leave. I'm glad they kept mentioning "Ever After" because I saw that in theaters as a kid and I instantly fell in love with it and it was my favorite "Cinderella Story." I think it's awesome these guys get it!

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

***** WHAT THE FUCK DID SHE DO TO LEAVE? Why couldn't she just move out? And "Ever After" is nothing but a joke of a Cinderella story and a film. So much disrespect.

@elisabethavila220

4 жыл бұрын

@@0deadx21 Replying 4 years later, *I KNOW* Umm, you CLEARLY don't know what a badass Cinderella was in the original..

@0deadx21

4 жыл бұрын

@@elisabethavila220 Since when the fuck is Cinderella synonymous with badass? Either anyone thinking that is a moron or they know nothing about the purpose of the fairy tale and what the titular character represents.

All I have to say is...I hope to GOD that Aladdin doesn't get a live action reboot...

@RasoKye

9 жыл бұрын

Its not announced, but its certainly coming. -_-

@OdaSwifteye

9 жыл бұрын

That would be impossible. They already tried doing an Aladdin movie without Robin Williams and it didn't work. The man is dead and so is the break out character in that movie franchise.

@TheNMan64

9 жыл бұрын

Oda Swifteye Don't underestimate the power of Disney...

@OdaSwifteye

9 жыл бұрын

NintendoMan64 Disney is a company. Not a boogie man. They would have to find someone to fill those shoes or gloss over the character entirely and it would be a different movie either way and doomed to fail. Aladdin is different from Cinderella due to Aladdin being a product of a series of artists who gained their skills from developing the Thief and the Cobbler which were based on the stories told by Scheherazade. If Disney made another Aladdin movie it would be just another tale from Scheherazade. Probably won't even have Aladdin in it and it wouldn't be called Aladdin and the chances of the movie existing post 9/11? Who wants to deal with that PR storm?

@TheNMan64

9 жыл бұрын

Disney recasts famous characters ALL THE TIME!!!! Eleanor Audley was the character of Maleficent, but they had no problem putting Angelina Jolie in that role. Heck, Audley was recast as Cate Blanchett in Cinderella. Jim Cummings plays Winnie the Pooh, James Horan plays Scar, John Goodman plays Baloo, and they've been having Jim Messkemen and Dan Castellanetta voicing the Genie for several years in every Disney products not named "Aladdin" or "Aladdin and the King of Thieves". They've replaced Edward Norton with Mark Ruffalo. The whole "Thief in the Cobbler" analogy is irrelevant to the point considering: A. The film may have been started first, but Aladdin came out first and was better in almost everyway except unique abstract animation B. Even if the whole analogy was sensible, it wouldn't stop Disney. They've been linked to borrowing stuff from the past (See Kimba vs Simba) And finally, the three most known stories of A Thousand and One Nights are Sinbad (which has been told dozens of times + it's a bit too POTC esque), Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, and of course Aladdin. And people in the Middle East (at least the few I've spoken too on Arabic vids of Aladdin), adore the movie and don't find a single thing offensive about it (apart from the lyrical change, which WAS changed before the film was released overseas). In conclusion, for Disney, absolutely nothing is impossible. After all, they insisted for years that Snow White would never appear on home video and it;s fourth release is likely coming out Fall 2016. If Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, and Beauty and the Beast are not off the table, Aladdin is most certainly not off the table.

Wasn't her name Ella in the PREVIOUS adaptations of the tale? ... so it's NOT a new change??

@jacemachine

9 жыл бұрын

Was it? Isn't it?

@aaa1e2r3

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah in the original fairy tale it was written as "Cinders Ella". The reason for this naming was that in the original story, she was described to have been always covered in ash and cinders from constantly working.

@jacemachine

9 жыл бұрын

Ah! Fair enough! Ty.

@andrewkful

9 жыл бұрын

Athavan Rajasingham I know that. What I'm confused about is why the Walkers are acting like this is some brand new discovery that THIS movie fabricated!

@Ahmedbohamad

9 жыл бұрын

It's not a change to begin with. This IS her original name.

The animated Cinderella movie is one of my favorite Disney movies. I was hoping that the live action movie would be good as well, but all I am hearing is that they took a good movie, that had its problems and made the problems even more easy to see. Here is hoping that they leave The Little Mermaid alone, but its probably going to be done as well.

@sinicall3325

9 жыл бұрын

you know they will, especially if this frozen 2 movie goes well they'll "updated" little mermaid and any other disney princess movie

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Indigo42Kitsune WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST FOR CRYING OUT LOUD? What the fuck are these problems they speak of?

@marszenka

9 жыл бұрын

Indigo42Kitsune I loved it, but I'm not sure why you love the animated one. I like it, but it seriously is about the mice. Not the people. So I'm just saying, as a caution, you might not like this one. That said, screw this review. I think it's beautiful in all ways. Go see the movie, ignore all the crap you've heard about it, and take it for what it is - a telling of Cinderella, as a tribute to the old film. I was delighted with the things they left in there (old C is NOT my fave Disney film, but I'm an animation nut, I've seen it at least ten times. I was able to recognize the frames they recreated for this one). If you're not, just enjoy the cinematography, okay? Every frame is a work of art. :) Even if you don't like it your eyes will feast on prettiness.

@MewDenise

9 жыл бұрын

Indigo42Kitsune they are doing little mermaid, beauty and beast and mulan

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

***** That new 101 Dalmatians remake is probably gonna be called Cruella.

Also, why couldn't the stepmom just marry Cinderella off to someone? She's a teenage noblewoman, she'd be bound to have suitors before her father died. If the stepmom hated her, why not be rid of her? Or have someone notice that "hey, the woman I was courting has disappeared, and the house she lived in now has a servant that looks exactly like her?" Where were her nobility companions? She was definitely old enough to be part of the social scene, why did no one notice that she was missing, or suddenly a servant?

You should totally make an "Old versus New" with these movies. That would be great!

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Don't fucking give him ideas like that. Especially since he didn't think anything through before reviewing this film.

@JHaru777

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 How do you know he didn't think things through when it's his job to think over what he's going to say before recording?

@PastelGrandpa

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 I just saw the most recent Q&A video, and guess what? They are gonna make a Old vs New with these movies! :D

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Lezzly Longlake Send me a link. And is NC running out of ideas to make an Old vs New of Cinderella? It's Cinderella. Can't he do Planet of the Apes or something? Clearly he's too undereducated of the new Cinderella movie to be making any judgements. He's the defending the animated Cinderella - a two-dimentional character at the very most with no backstory, hardly did anything, and sobs a lot. The Lily James version is deffinately the better version. She has a backstory, motivations, makes attemps to get what she wants, knows how to deal with people the best way she can, puts others happiness before her own, and instead of sobbing and waiting to be safed, she moves on with her life.

@PastelGrandpa

9 жыл бұрын

watch?v=gr0D6Dlkk70 Boom. Can't remember when it is, but they do talk about it. And it kinda sound to me like you don't want him to make a Old s New simply because you know the one you like is the one he's gonna judge as the lesser movie. He's an internet reviewer. No need to get so defensive about it. To quote the man himself - "I'm here to make JOKES. Calm the fuck down."

The only reason I watched the movie was because I was at the mall and the movie happened to be the next one playing in the theatre. After watching the movie, I found myself offended by the "tell, don't show" approach.

@0deadx21

6 жыл бұрын

"Tell, don't show". The animated movie is obviously an expert on that since Cinderella's parents and her being raised by her stepfamily didn't mean shit.

I did feel that in the moment when Cinderella was kept in the attic and she doesn't seem to care was either the moment when she actually cracked or the moment when she kind of realised that she was going to starve to death and didn't see a way out so decided to just live in the dream. I half expected her to just lay down and give this death bed speech or something to signify that she's just given up and lost all hope. I did like this film, it's one that you watch before you go to bed, one that you don't really have to think about too much and don't really ponder over. You go to bed thinking of the pretty dress and enjoy the music and the imagery and I did enjoy the plot, but it certainly could have been executed much better.

A very enjoyable review that brings up a lot of good point about both the old and new versions of Cinderella, not to mention some funny outbursts too.

@0deadx21

7 жыл бұрын

The animated film had nothing compared to the live-action film.

@knightofapple3350

7 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 well, it's nice that you believe that.

@0816M3RC

7 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Even though Cinderella is a complete idiot in the live action film?

@0deadx21

7 жыл бұрын

0816 M3RC By your logic characters like Steven Universe are complete idiots as well. What fucked up world do you live in? The animated Cinderella is even more of an idiot. She has to be if she easily believed she could go to the ball by the most suspicious acting stepmother in existence.

@0816M3RC

7 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 What does Steven Universe have to do with this? Tell me do you think Steven, Pearl, Garnet, or Amethyst would just sit around in the attic and wait for somebody to save them? For DAYS??? What kind of fucked up world do you live in? The animated Cinderella wasn't perfect it had its flaws. However that Cinderella had a lot going against her. She was raised by the stepmother from childhood, knew practically nothing about the outside world (so she couldn't just run off) and the prince never met her when she was a peasant girl. What is live action Cinderella's excuse for just sitting in the attic daydreaming and making NO effort to escape?

Belle didn`t start to like The Beast untiil he saved her from the wolves .He gave her an entire library and started to act like a decent human being .

Hey, if they wanted to improve the logic (kinda) of the fairy godmother and perhaps make it a bit darker, what if they made her more of a selfish character in the beginning? Supposing she found that Cinderella would give her food and water despite threats, so she took advantage of Cinderella's kindness until that big night and planned to sneak off quietly, but then felt remorse and gave Cinderella the dress, etc. Turns out she could perform one act of magic, but it would only last until midnight - and so would she. When everything changes back, she faded away…?

Brandy's Cinderella was much better, it was a bit silly, but Cinderella cared and they gave her a reason to stay oppressed, she states that she's too scared to leave. But she's still strong and optomistic

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Brandy was a parody, she was far from the real deal.

@LilyZerep

9 жыл бұрын

It's one of my favorites too. I also like that she says that she promised her dad to stay as a family. That, Ever After and Hilary Duff's Cinderella along with the animated Disney one were all my favorites. I didn't like the others very much.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Lily Zerep Speaking of Ever After, if anyone makes Cinderella act like Danielle did, they're basically saying the virtues in Cinderella are outdated. I'm so glad they didn't do that.

@LilyZerep

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Well I haven't seen this new Cinderella but I'd believe it. To me it worked in Ever After. Sure Danielle was a fighter but she was still likeable and I liked how Henry did try and save her (even though she saved herself). I don't know how anyone could try and pull off what Ever After did as a Cinderella story.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Lily Zerep Danielle is not suited for Cinderella at all. Cinderella is not a fighter, she's not a showoff, and she doesn't lash out at people. Lily James' Cinderella seems to be mentally stable while Danielle is not.

Thank GOD for you guys. I just saw that movie. I was hopping for an other Malificent, but in the end I got a dumbed down longer version of the animated Cinderella.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

I believe you're fucking confusing dumbed down with deepened and reconstructed.

@Blame125

9 жыл бұрын

Nope. Dumbed down. At least in the old cartoon Cinderella was ACTUALLY nce. In this one she was pasive agresive. And SO bland. Also, please dont thumb up your own comment, it's depresing.Have a good day. Sorry for insulting the "Citizen Kane" of a movie you think that was XD

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Blame125 That's a lie. Why don't we compare their reaction to the dresses being torn? And where in the cartoon did Cinderella ask her stepmother why she was so mean?

@Blame125

9 жыл бұрын

Dude, I dont care. It was a bland and dumb movie. Get a life and stop upvoting your own comments seriously XD XD XD XD Also, watch the review. They preaty much sum up how I felt about this movie.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Blame125 And what evidence are there that the movie was bland and dumb? The majority of people know better how to feel and it's a shame you're not one of 'em.

if you can't even get a character's name right that shows you didn't actually watch the movie lol. her name is *Aurora* and she has more personality than practically any of these new heroines whose personalities are made up of generic hobbies for the viewer to 'relate' to them with and lame road trips. She's passionate, a little timid, romantic, dutiful, curious (hurr like what everyone says makes Belle so cool amirite) and unlike certain princesses who put themselves first, she goes back to the castle instead of chasing her prince.

@avrilfantasyrin

9 жыл бұрын

Aurora doesn't get enough credit ♡♡♡

@whitelioness87

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! We also have to look at her circumstances. Cursed to die young by an all-powerful, vengeful sorceress when she is an infant; spirited away to a cottage in the woods and raised in secrecy by three immortal fairies trying to protect her from that relentless witch; kept hidden from all human contact with no knowledge of her true identity; and in spite of this, she has all the virtues you listed. The only problem with her is the fact that her personality is under-developed, NOT NON-EXISTENT! She has all of 18 minutes of on-screen action to get the audience on her side. I think audiences are spoiled these days, where they don't really have to pay attention to the character, because they get, what, 30 minutes to whine and complain about their lives, particularly Disney animated heroines. Aurora is, along with Princess Jasmine in Aladdin, the only official Disney princess who actually has the makings of a queen, imo. Comparing her to someone like Ariel, who I also like as a character, is comparing a typical 16-year old to probably the most regal, dignified, mature, noble, responsible 16-year old you'll ever meet. However, these days, noble = boring, I suppose. This is the same attitude which turned High King Peter in the Narnia series to a whiny pansy/prima donna in the live-action films. Glad to know there are others who see Aurora as I do!

@avrilfantasyrin

9 жыл бұрын

whitelioness87 well, the people at Disney did say Aurora has a pride of a royalty :), if only she has given more screen time, I'll bet she's the most selfless person than any of the DP

I so agree with this review. These were practically my thoughts. My addition was I wanted to know where the Fairy Godmother came from. What was her story? Why did she have a human godchild? Give me more details about the fairy world. I was hoping we would get a throwaway sentence or SOMETHING that would tell more about her. But nothing...

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

You're an idiot. I'm assuming you believe the rodents in the movie are rats, and that the elements in the story worked against the movie rather than for it, which I don't remember Doug and Rob ever explaining how they came to that conclusion? Can you explain it to me instead?

@ShyyGaladriel

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Um... did you respond to the wrong message or something? Because what you just wrote here has nothing to do with my comment...

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Shy Galadriel Nope, nope, it's deffinately you I wanted to repsond to. You said you so agree with this review, did you not?! I'm waiting for the explanation about what they said.

@scorpiocarnage1055

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Okay, you need to calm down. I've been scrolling through these comments and you posted on so many comments it's not even funny. We get it, you like the movie, great for you. But if you want to discuss something, discuss it like an adult. People have different opinions and we're not obligated to like the same things. I like Princess and the Frog but I am aware of some of the problems in that movie. If you disagree just say you kindly disagree, politely explain why, then move on. There's a big difference between being heard and speaking loudly because you can.

Not as bad as Maleficent

@dracocrusher

9 жыл бұрын

That's probably the lowest level complement I've ever seen.

@TheAirBear2000

9 жыл бұрын

dracocrusher Challenge accepted. It's not as bad as Oogieloves.

@dracocrusher

9 жыл бұрын

TheAirBear2000 I'm probably going to regret asking, but what the heck is Oogiloves?

@TheAirBear2000

9 жыл бұрын

dracocrusher Some kind of Barney/Teletubbies-style little kids' movie that came out back in 2012. I haven't seen it myself, but I watched Brad Jones's Midnight Screenings episode on it and . . . the description he gave wasn't flattering. And apparently it only made back about 2% of its budget.

@dracocrusher

9 жыл бұрын

TheAirBear2000 Ouch.... Although, lets be honest, if you're making a movie the toddler demographic is probably one of the worse ones to shoot for.

Now I dread what will be done to Beauty and Beast. They would make her like this Mary Sue perfect character who is there to save the beast to the point where she condones the treatment he does give her because we are told he is a good man underneath the monster. *sighs*

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

You're an idiot. And Cinderella is not a Mary Sue.

@mshook720

9 жыл бұрын

The thing that gives me hope is that Beauty and the Beast is going to be not a reimagining but an film adaptation of the stage musical

I never really gave a shit about Cinderella but if they fuck up Beauty and the Beast I will rage.

@bryannacassidy1806

8 жыл бұрын

I can tell.

@YuukitheMighty1

8 жыл бұрын

bryanna cassidy ;)

@midnight3946

8 жыл бұрын

+YuukitheMighty1 Watch Bell become a more "feminist" character then before

@YuukitheMighty1

8 жыл бұрын

Janina Fischer Yeah I can kind of see that coming with Emma Watson playing her and all. They'll be like, "she's going to be strong and not take the beast's/gaston's shit at all~" Um Belle is fine as she is -_-

@midnight3946

8 жыл бұрын

YuukitheMighty1 But she's one of the best disney princesses ever!

Also, I forgot to mention in the animated version, you do see the outside of Cinderella's house a few times, and you see the village when the storybook opens and when the coach goes to the castle. However you do not see exactly where Cinderella's house is in relation to the village.

@bryannacassidy1806

8 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that it's surrounded by woods.

The movie tells the moral but doesn't show it. Movies are like literature in narrative structure. Show don't tell.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

John Tousseau What the fuck do you mean it doesn't show it?

@fortblocks

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, again, it's like poetry. So, if they rhyme....

What people don't know is that the "I won't let you ruin his life too" scene was ripped off from the book of Ella Enchanted. It WORKED in the Ella Enchanted book (stressing the book cause the movie is garbage) and that's why it fell flat in the movie.

Give me Cinderella from the "Fables" comics; kick-ass action spy!!

@Ahmedbohamad

9 жыл бұрын

I love Fable comics, but they say so much about modern culture (Where a woman isn't considered strong or good unless she is physically strong) and people hating on the original Cinderella because she is kind hearted...

@Monocultured01

9 жыл бұрын

That would've been so awesome.

"She rescued us from bondage!" I love you guys.😂

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE TITANIC SINKS?!

Dat opening though...

So,,,this exists? Well...I'm just going to go and binge on asian media to forget that it does and pretend the only Disney Cinderella that exists is still the classic one with the Salagadoolas, mechicka boolas and bippety boppity boos.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Idiot!

@MrJoeyWheeler

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 right back atcha

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Damian Freeman Idiot.

@MrJoeyWheeler

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 what magnificent rebuttals to what I said, so much detail, so, much, NOTHING. Nothing. You can't be bothered to do anything beyond a one-word response which says abolutely nothing.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Damian Freeman You're an absolute idiot.

wait..... the ship sinks in titanic?

@jarekgunther

7 жыл бұрын

No, it was an evil gang of underwater sharks who manipulated a dog-faced octopus into throwing an iceberg in front of the ship because of an evil whaling scheme.

@rebelwithacause666

7 жыл бұрын

Jarek Gunther And everyone survived because of the whales even the captain

@RedWolfVids

7 жыл бұрын

I scrolled down just to see if anyone had made that comment, hahahaha

Ever After is fucking great.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

It sure didn't leave a big impact on me.

@FireofGia111

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Cool.

@PhoenixRising87

9 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen it in eons....but it is great. I wonder if it's on Netflix....

@jostockton.

9 жыл бұрын

FireofGia eh, nicely done but the anachronistic "feminist" heroine is both cliche and unrealistic.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

AuroraInBlue I didn't find anything to cherish about Ever After.

These two do realise that the whole thing of her being called 'CInderella' wasn't an invention of the 2015 movie, right? It's in the original story (Or at least in some versions of the many, many retellings) and has been around a lot longer, like the original Grimms version where she was called "Aschenputtel" (ashfool), longer?

@vulpezerdavulcan9055

8 жыл бұрын

I suppose they didn't. I did. But I suppose it can sound a bit pretentious for a movie to say "Look, we're better because we pointed this factoid out" - even if I did think the fact was pretty cool. :)

@peeblespebbles5689

8 жыл бұрын

Vulpezerda Vulcan True, but personally, I don't think it's that nit-picky a detail of the original to have in the 2015 movie. I'm just a little annoyed that Doug and Rob seem to be making out this is some pretentious *new* thing they've done, when it's just not.

@vulpezerdavulcan9055

8 жыл бұрын

+Peebles Pebbles I agree. It is kind of annoying.

I found this movie quite a bit boring. The boom in popularity reminds me of the Alice in Wonderland; it had problems and yet everyone praised it to death... In fact, they had a lot of the same problems. This is the first review that didn't outright praise it based on a mix of nostalgia and 'Disney' blindness; in which a movie is giving a pass because 'eh, it is Disney'. I also think that woman going on a liquid diet and was really shameful. -.- That is a bad, BAD moral to send to kids. Want to make Cinderella more real? Make her look like a real person. I've heard the argument that it was because she wasn't given a lot of food that her waist was small, but lack of nourishment doesn't cause a slender waist and nothing more. For a modern film that's supposed to inspire girls it actually sends quite a few bad messages to them.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

NotRealName NotAtAll What the fuck are these problems you're talking about. The movie doesn't have any problems with its characters, story, plot, writting or anything.

@notrealnamenotatall2476

9 жыл бұрын

Main character's lack of fully detailed personality and ability to do things themselves with excessive assistance or coincidence mostly. Also the over acting in some scenes and under acting in others. Along with certain tropes that are repeated in both movies.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

NotRealName NotAtAll What overacting and underacting? And you don't need to know more about the characters beyond what you saw.

@notrealnamenotatall2476

9 жыл бұрын

Like when the stepmother has her evil laugh. While they mentioned the scene passingly I thought it was pretty distracting, especially for a moment that was supposed to be tense. I think she may have done it more than once too. Cinderella herself does occasionally have the good moment, but then other times she seems to be dull; like she redid a scene over and over until she no longer gave the same life to it. On the hole I would say that the problems aren't as big as the ones in Alice in Wonderland, but I just have this feeling that corners are cut for money. Like all these live action remakes are so that they can get more money from the source material instead of trying other fairy tales or other stories as live action movies.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

NotRealName NotAtAll Nobody was cutting any corners. That's such a ridiculous assumption.

The king is played by the guy who played Claudius in Hamlet? Well, seeing as though this is directed by Kenneth Branagh I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

In regards to the queen Cinderella thing. She won't be queen, non royals/nobels can't be made monarchs, she will be a princess. A real life example of that can be seen in the swedish royal family where the crown princess married a man who was not a royal or lord, when she ascends the throne she will be queen and he will be a prince. So yeah, their not shaking of the princess stuff.

I'm so happy someone else shares my opinion on this movie. My sister I had almost the same discussion as Doug and Rob on our way home from the theater. It blows my mind how the movie got so much praise from critics.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Music Maker If you're trying to make animated movie seem like the better movie, you're failing miserably.

@musicmaker6764

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 I've already seen your pathetic attempts in the comments to prove the live action one is superior. Move along PS: I did not mention the animated one

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Music Maker My attempts are way less pathetic than anyone of you trying to argue the other way around. Only bullshit and nonsense are your arguments.

@musicmaker6764

9 жыл бұрын

As I said before, move along. You're just trying to start debates/arguments. I said what I wanted to and am done now. I will not reply to future comments from you.

@l.tc.5032

8 жыл бұрын

+Music Maker Probably cause unlike Alice and Maleficent it didn't actually suck and it really didn't I do not hate this film. it's very forgettable though and will not stand the test of time and had many problems but cause it was better than it's live action predecessors the critics misstook it for quality and gave it an inflated review

"EVER AFTER is not a Disney movie"? well......... NOW IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely love the animated Cinderella

After mentioning it so much the critic should review Ever after

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+Louise Richards What a ridiculous movie that was, not to mention forgetable.

@rainbowrooster13

8 жыл бұрын

+0deadx21 All the more reason for him to review it ;D

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

rainbowrooster 13 The third wave of feminism is by far the worst. And fittingly enough Danielle came across as a bitch. That is so not the Cinderella character.

Kenneth Branagh: Okay, so we're making a Cinderella film that doesn't have a strong character, the stepmother is insane, the message is forced into someone's face. We're basically taking the good things from the original and slapping them in the face, correct? Disney Executive: No, no. We're making an updated version of a classic film and story to empower young girls. Kennith: You're trying to make money. Disney Executive: Pretty much. And you're going to help or we'll fuck up your carrier. Keniith: *sigh* Well, let's at least make it look nice. *hours later at a bar* Tim Burton: They got you too? Kennith: You have no fucking clue.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+asummer6dbz You're such an idiot, if you believe this shit. And apperantly your version of a non-forced message is NOT HAVING A MESSAGE AT ALL.

@asummer6dbz

8 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 I'm an idiot if I believe what shit? You have to be more specific than "this", because that can fall under a lot of things. Also my opinion of a non-forced message is one that doesn't say it to someone's face in the first ten minutes of the film. A non-forced message, in my opinion, is one that you see through the film as the characters grow and develop. Take the original Cinderella for example, that one didn't need to flat out say the message, but people still got it. In this one, they force it down people's throats, and that's what makes it forced when you're actually flat out saying it several times in the film, because that proves you want a message, but can't find a way to write it into the script. Also, my original comment was just a joke, don't take it that seriously.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

asummer6dbz What the fuck does saying it in the first 10 minutes have to do with being forced? It's about HOLDING ON TO IT, PRACTICING IT, SHARING IT! How was any of that forced? As for the animated Cinderella, she did a lame, dull and boring job at it, not captivating in the least. LAZY, that's what I would call the filmmakers attempts at it. How the fuck did anyone got the message? Oh, and by the way WHAT MESSAGE? The movie makes no effort whatsoever at a message. You people made that shit up about there being a message. Too little time and effort was devoted to any of it. Everything was just there, no build up, no payoff, no development, no challenge. If anything, the animated film wants any message it could have had to stick as little as possible. It's pretty fucking clear the filmmakers didn't fucking know what to do with the Cinderella story and the human characters, and their main goal was to just have a Cinderella film in existance, instead of putting actual effort in the things that matter the most. Apperantly to them the most important thing was the mice. Well fuck the titular character, I guess, she only appears in less than half the film.

@asummer6dbz

8 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 Saying it in the first ten minutes is just that, saying it. The film didn't demonstrate how to use it, and for a film with the target audience being young girls, showing it is just as important and more important than saying it because you can see the pay off, you see what's going on. When you say something, it's words, when you do something, it's an action, and people learn better from seeing something done and doing something than being told something. The message from the animated one was, "Work hard, don't give up and eventually things will work out for you." Cinderella worked hard doing the chores and going through the mental abuse, but she didn't break until the dress was destroyed, and was locked in her room. I'll concede the interesting character point, where she didn't have much of a personality in the film aside for being a kind and good person, you still saw everything she was going through. That Cinderella had no friends aside for the mice, and she can't have a conversation with them. That leaves the stepmother and stepsisters for conversing, in which each time we see them on screen together, they're abusing her in one way or another. She had no living chance to have a personality, particularly with all of this beginning in her childhood. When you say there was no effort, I have to argue that as well. Even if you say the story had little to none, you can't say the film itself didn't. For the time it came out, it was a beautiful film, still beautiful today. The way the captured the motions of the characters was very nice, and unique to each person. If you noticed, the stepmother and sisters all had sharper movements, always seeming more angular. Cinderella was more flowing in her movements, and the Prince (despite having no character at all), moved slowly and regally. So there was a lot of effort put into the film. I even admit there was too much time with the mice, but the rest was good. Human characters may not have been well developed, with the stepmother and sisters having no motivation. It's clear to see that this is heavily inspired, or if not, somehow got across a clear picture of child abuse. We see how Cinderella is left with the stepmother and sisters when she's young, likely around age ten. Children are easy to manipulate, and so when the stepmother begins her abuse, Cinderella can't get out and leave, and the stepsisters grow up around that behavior and do the same. By the time the story takes place, they don't know much else, and it is easy to say Cinderella probably wasn't allowed outside of the property, so she had no way out. That's a very real child abuse situation. So, no, we're not making thing up, we just don't have to be told things flat out. Also, can you please stop swearing almost every sentence, it makes your argument less credible.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

asummer6dbz Am I to assume you're a moron who misses the most obvious of points. You must be since you believe Ella didn't practice any of what she believes in whatsoever. Unlike the animated film which is mostly tell and not show, the live-action film is the opposite and knows how to fucking balance telling and showing without it beng too much or too little. CINDERELLA'S LESSON HAS JACKSHIT TO DO WITH HARD WORK! WHAT THE FUCK DID ALL THOSE CHORES AMOUNT TO IN THE END? NOTHING, A BIG FAT NOTHING. They're not part of a goal of hers. Cinderella is one of the worst examples of the lesson of hard work I've ever seen. And that's why no lesson in Cinderella should be centered around manual labor. The animated Cinderella just comes across as an idiot. All this time and she knows nothing about her stepfamily. How can she be so stupid as to genuinely believe her stepmother would actually fucking allow her to go to the ball? Was Lady Tremaine really that fucking subtle about it? The things she said to Cinderella prior to this should have been huge red flags. About that abuse, clearly it's not much, just minor annoying inconveniences as far Cinderella acts about it. Oh, yeah, real abuse survivor that girl. The only real abuse I saw was in the live-action movie. The animated film fails miserably and damn is it underwhelming. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU FAIL AT MAKING A GENUINE ABUSE VICTIM? HOW?

Have you ever done a review on the movie 'Ever After'? You talk about it quite a few times here and I'd be very interested to hear go into more detail about that film and why that one works so well.

@Wolfsbaene

9 жыл бұрын

EveyGrey I would actually love to see them review Ever After! They do talk about it enough.

This has made me think of Cinderella, the fairy tale as a whole, in a whole new way, just like, it all makes perfect sense now! I understand the story better! Thank you Doug and Rob!

"Cindella and the rats." You mean the MICE, right?

I actually agree with their take on this movie. The only time that I felt that Cinderella had any sincere character growth in this movie was at the very end when she had to choose whether to submit to her stepmother's wishes or break the stepmother's power over her and go to the Prince. The fact that she went to the Prince and told him the truth about who she was and asked him to love her for who she truly was instead of loving the perception of her when they met at the ball impressed me. The only time I felt genuinely sorry for her was when she gets the news that her father has died. I actually liked the King and the Prince more than Cinderella in this version because they had a legitimate conflict that they had to overcome and I thought that the resolution of that conflict when they are talking in the bedroom was very well done.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

CeltycSparrow Cinderella (2015) is better than Cinderella (1950).

@Disney65Fan

9 жыл бұрын

0deadx21 True

@l.tc.5032

8 жыл бұрын

+CeltycSparrow I didn't even feel sorry for her when her parents died. I knew it was coming so I couldn't care less. I cried more over Bing Bong than Ella's dad. but yeah the prince and the king were the only people in the movie I gave a rat's ass about and were the only thing keeping me from waking out and demanding a refund.

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

L. T C. So you're just a heartless a-hole. That explains everything. And why the fuck are you talking about Ella's dad? He died offscreen, ya fucking idiot. The mother's death was the most important one.

@l.tc.5032

8 жыл бұрын

I didn't care about mom she was a Ellie Fredricksen rip off who didn't do anything that for me attached to her. And I'm not heartless I said I cried over Bing Bong why cause I actually got attached to him as he had character good moments with both Joy and Sadness was extremely lovable and he sacrificed himself to save Joy. Bing Bong >Ella's mom 1000x

I really think that many of the flaws with Cinderella was due to the writing and not the acting. None of the characters really had more than one dimension. The "good" characters have no flaws, and so many of the writer's aims just fell really flat, such as the attempt to humanize the stepmother.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

You sound like a whiner.

@juniperserenity441

9 жыл бұрын

You sound like a twelve year old.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Juniper Serenity You sound like a total liar, cuz nothing you said was true. Either that or you don't fucking know the difference between dimentions or where to find obvious character flaws.

@juniperserenity441

9 жыл бұрын

Go troll somewhere else, my child.

@0deadx21

9 жыл бұрын

Juniper Serenity I'm 25, ya Mary Sue username lover.

I actually thought the live action version had more emotion. She is emotionless because she is grieving over her dead parents.

I ❤️ ever after!! I watched it like 5 times. & I'd watch it again! In fact I think I'll go watch it!

the dress transformation scene was uncomfortable for me and my date LOL it was sooo long and sooo unnecessary and so much like a damn sailormoon transformation sequence

you should talk about frozen fever

@SomeKindaSpy

9 жыл бұрын

They did. Go find it yourself.

@EyeOfArgus

9 жыл бұрын

SomeKindaSpy UGH FINE wait i cannot find them talking about the frozen short that comes before this movie, you lied

@MadnessofMarcy

9 жыл бұрын

***** Has that even come out?

@SomeKindaSpy

9 жыл бұрын

***** It was one of Doug's Vlogs about hype and shit. Keep searching and stop being a bitch.

@EyeOfArgus

9 жыл бұрын

I meant for him to give an opinion on what it, not for him to go like "it's a thing cuz hype" that doesn't tell me what he thought about it

The movie was great, you two are just insane, lol. Cate Blanchett MADE that move, and it was extremely beautiful.

The guy who played the King, Derek Jacobi, also voiced Nicodemus in "The Secret of NIMH".

FINALLY!!! Somebody shares my opinion of this movie.

@l.tc.5032

9 жыл бұрын

Joyhorse13 and mine

Hi, Guys,I did not see the movie when it was playing in cinemas, and just watched it on DVD with my daughter. WOW! Afterwards, out of curiosity I checked how the movie was reviewed at the time and was surprised by some reviews, including yours.I thought the movie was old-fashioned in a very good way - no knowing winks, no cynical smirks, no existential angst! Also, no cheesy talking or singing mice! The movie was perfectly suitable to its audience of KIDS! It is a simple story teaching kids about moral behavior. It does not complicate things for 10-year old that need not be complicated at that age. I think that whoever did not understand this, is probably at that weird place in life when they still are still not parents but already too grown up to enjoy it. Or have a more severe condition - they are no longer kids at heart, which, of course no doctor can cure, and which means they are indeed closer to their grave than to their birth. To appreciate this movie for what it is, try not to watch it as a grown up, and it will all make sense then.Cheers!

@0deadx21

8 жыл бұрын

+yory teperman The strength of the movie is its message and central theme. They didn't try to do something stupid like needlessly turning the story dark or turning it into something unrecognisable. They fully embraced the fairy tale, improved on it without altering the core, and had character and story development and exellent writting. Cinderella (2015) is an enchanting movie.

You can't just have your characters shout how they feel! THAT MAKES ME FEEL ANGRY!

@johnmartin4119

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly Kenneth Branagh hasn’t seen Futurama

42:00: God damn, Rob. LOL. "Twirling, twirling.....OH! Ugggghhh!!!"