I completely concur, every gun I carry, is fully loaded!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

As long as she's safe so loaded....no firing pin resting ON a primer....load'er up.

You are also correct on the 1873... some will and some won't lower between chambers... mostly that just means the bolt will not drop soon enough to do that on some.

“Son, if the damned old thing wasn’t dangerous, I wouldn’t be wearing it!” Charlie Miller, Texas Ranger

The court documents of the ok coral shootout indicate the recovered cowboy revolvers were fully loaded

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

They were smart enough to not listen to internet modernisms then :) Seriously...I believe that any of them who carried with the hammer/pin resting ON a primer, quit doing so before very long...whether they experienced an unplanned discharge or heard of someone else doing so. I haven't read a single thing to indicate that they didn't trust the Colt safety notch in the 1873s, or that they didn't lower a hammer between chambers/case rims on other guns that would hold between chambers like this...especially since most of them were very familiar with cap and ball guns designed to do just that and carry fully loaded.

@TightwadTodd

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Exactly...Why would the manufacturers,stop having that feature and ability on their progressed weapons????....

My nightstand gun is a Pietta 1860 army 3" snub nose in silver and stays fully loaded with six Kaido 220gr conical bullets with 28grs of powder. They are defiantly some heavy hitters.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I guarantee they are.

When I lived in Florida we had CAS all over. I moved to Alabama in 2019 if you mention cowboy action here they look at you like you're speaking Chinese.

You have discovered the truth on how these guns were intended to be carried fully loaded....Been TRYING to educate folks on this for years,with much ignorant pushback from those who parrot the same misinformation regarding the "Cowboy Load",being the only or the "Old"way...I salute you and say Hallelujah!!!!!.....I refer to this method as the Mid notch carry..Keep on a preach'n brother....

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

If it'll hold between rims, I see no reason not to do this. Thanks.

@ryans5666

2 жыл бұрын

I've also done this for years on my 1871 open top clone. It's never been an issue. Same as the "safety notch" on a navy imo.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryans5666 Good deal. I say that if it'll hold safely, without the pin/hammer on a primer, it's as safe as the person loading and carrying it.

Pietta 1851 and Ruger Old Army both both have safety notches between the chambers. To me that says load all six. that's what the notches are for.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

In those, absolutely.

I love Plowboy Ghost Channel great man and a cool dude

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

A very kind and generous thing to say. Thank you.

I agree That it won't damage the gun. And and if the safety notch on the Single Action Army is unsafe why did they keep it on the gun. on my original 1880s Colt Single Action Army. The safty notch is well worn. So they were definitely using it.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That's what me and the "Duck" (I says) got into it over. He claimed the safety notch was so fragile that merely pulling the trigger in the notch would break parts. I had a different opinion based on my experience witnessing one dropped on concrete from 2.5-feet onto the hammer in the safety notch with one under the hammer. The Duck didn't like that.

@snappers_antique_firearms

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost yeah I bet he didn't like that at all. and my personal experience is like yours. I think that safety Notch is a lot stronger than people give it credit for. I'm sure it would break under extreme abuse. Then they blame the gun instead of themselves

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@snappers_antique_firearms It's, of course safer, technically, with an empty under the hammer...but speaking to the historical/design aspect of the discussion, that was the way Colt designed it to function.

Six chambers…load with six! Colt manual in the old days says “use the safety notch” and no “load with five”! There’s no register in the past about accidental discharge or something like “the Army loads with five cartridges to avoid blá blá blá” Carry with six, use the safety notch and carry a load revolver like a load revolver, if you dropped it maybe you was negligent, safety notch actually are made with better quality. I carry my 1911 cocked and locked for 35 years in service with no problems….

Sure wood enjoy another video. It doesn't have to be long. Any subject.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I'm on it, soon as the wind/rain stops.

I have 2 of the 1860 army type II Richard's conversions. I shoot cowboy action. In my opinion, it's the sexiest revolver made. When I shoot cowboy action I'm bound by rules to load 5. But as you say "In real life", any gun I carry of target shoot is fully loaded. Why would I carry a firearm for self defens, and not load it to capacity? Love the 1860!

@jason60chev

Жыл бұрын

Stages are also built around that 5 round rule, so if you use one revolver or two, they should be empty, when the stage is complete......thus another "level" of safety.

It’s been a month...we’re missing your contribution to the well being of our society. Lookin forward to a good rant...don’t really care about what. Thanks in advance.

I see no problem with placing the hammer between cylinders.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

If it'll sit between chambers like the Open Top and the Schofield, I don't either.

exactly correct.... it was a percussion 1860 and as such you could lower it between the cylinders. That is for sure safe enough for me. On my 1873's tho I use the provided..... SAFETY notch just as Colt intended duh? The only 5 shooter they made was the very early guns like the 1847 pocket... and no... people did not carry them with only four LOL... But then ... I am a real chance taker... I don't even wear a helmet in my car when I run to the store.

I have always wondered if you could just rest the firing pin between the case rims, and you answered my question perfectly. If the gun was designed to fire six rounds, there should be a way to carry it fully loaded. Either in the safety notch on the hammer or resting between rims. Like you said, the older Colts had safety pins between the chambers for the exact same purpose. This is the first time I have ever heard someone on KZread actually support this method. Hats off to ya! Anyway, DAMN that is one handsome revolver you got there, one of my all-time favorites! Hope to see a shooting video soon! All the best to you, Plowboy.

thank you sir something on that model i did not know thanks

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I had to get the gun to learn it works this way, myself. Thank you.

Hi Plowboy, I just bought a Kirst Konverter for my Pietta 1860 snub nose .44 caliber cap and ball gun. It only has 5 chambers with safety notches that the firing pin sits into to use as a safety. There's no way I would only load 4 chambers when I'm already down one round from the black powder cylinder. The gun was screaming for conversion so I bit the bullet and payed up (it was expensive!) but I think totally worth it. I still have to cut the loading port and I'm going to take my time with that. The gun just feels perfect with that birds head grip.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Kirst I installed in a steel framed 'Navy .44" a few years ago could be carried full between chambers.

Maybe a "cowboy" would only load five on an 1873 SAA, but I do not recall hearing that the U.S.Calvary followed such procedure when using and carrying the very revolver designed for their use and accepted for their use., especially when a trooper would nedd to dispatch as many rounds as possible while at full gallop.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't turned up any reference for (5) it in military manuals of the day, either.

@MyWillypilly

2 жыл бұрын

My replica Walker has a pin and notch in the hammer for carrying between chambers. That being said, I could see a SAA that's slicked up could "could" conceivably discharge if dropped and it popped out of the safety notch.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyWillypilly So far, I haven't been able to "pop" one of mine out of the safety notch. Slowly, I'm beginning to believe in that notch as it was designed to be used.

@MyWillypilly

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I'm on your side. Horseback,,,? Maybe not. I think walking around back in 1800s in the wild west it was better to carry six..better for your health

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyWillypilly I say put one in the safety notch, unloaded, and pop the hammer with a rubber mallet or wooden handle a few good times. I don't believe the notch is as fragile as the interweb says it is.

Good to know about. Very nice looking long barrel pistol there. Yes I said pistol because when I was growing out west we called them pistols as most people had revolvers and cowboys had pistols (revolvers). I do not buy that only semi-autos are pistols. Go .45 Colt! Mr. plowboysghost I also understand with cap and ball sometimes people had spare cylinders already loaded up. Every hear of that? Thanks, sir!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I still call them pistols, too...just like they were called during the day. I've heard of it, but I'm not sold on a lot of spare cylinders. I believe , for the most part, that is a modern-Hollywoodism. I'm sure SOMEone did it, but I wouldn't bet on a lot. ....and those who reenact the War Against Southern Independence and carry spare cylinders have never read of what was counted among the troops upon inspection.

I have a Remington from Uberti with the conversion. It has the same safety notch as the cap and ball version. I use it. Same with the Martini and the Glock. KEEP THE BUGGER HOOK OFF THE BOOM SWITCH!!!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Boom switch...that sounds illegal .... heheheh

Hi! Those 1860’s are elegant and smooth looking. I’ve never felt unsafe with 6 loaded. I do shoot Cowboy Action once in a while and usually load 5 when I’m out just plinking or whatever. But not always. It’s a non-issue to me. I snoop around the woods with a 30-30 on half cock with one in the chamber. Same thing to me. A 1911 locked and cocked, again, same to me. Safety is between the ears of the beholder. Thanks for sharing the new gun!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I always carry a levergun with one in the chamber and hammer in half-cock. I always carried a 1911 in Condition1, too. Thanks for chiming in, my friend.

Id like to see a full review of this pistol. And see how it shoots

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

It's no longer with us :) . I traded it off unfired for a brand new Cimarron Artillery model.

I thought the same way until a couple things happened that scared the hell out of me. One was practicing spinning an unloaded Navy with the hammer on the pin, dropping the gun and picking it up with the hammer on the cone! If loaded, it could have easily gone off since it bounced a couple times pointing right at me. The second wake up was holstering with the hammer over pin, then hearing a loud click. The holster leather had caught the hammer and pulled it back just enough for the hammer to land on the next cap out of battery when the gun slipped all the way into the holster. If the hammer had gone just a hair higher before slipping it may have been an out of battery detonation. Since then I load five.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

On the second related incident: I don't own a holster deep enough to touch, much less catch the hammer of my sixguns. That will not be an issue for me, but it's something everyone has to consider for themselves....and worth bringing up. On the first: I spun my cap and ball Colt clones a lot. I didn't drop them but a couple times, and never onto a hard surface. ..so I didn't experience both the hammer jumping off the pin AND the cylinder rotating the way you relate. The easy answer to the last one is that anyone so concerned with safety that they are afraid to carry a sixgun with six rounds *probably* won't be spinning a fully loaded revolver....*probably*. In daily carry, sans spinning or any form of gymnastics while carrying, in a holster that's not deep enough to partially cock the hammer, I'd bet with a high level of confidence, that carrying a hammer nose/pin between case rims will be just fine. I also bet that a SAA with a safety notch in the hammer, parts that are in spec, carried in the safety notch sans gymnastics and/or spinning, in a good fitting holster, carried normally....will work as Colt designed and marketed it to, fully loaded. I'm carrying/leaving all my Colt SAA clones in the safety notch with an empty chamber under the hammer for at least a month or two, just to test it. I'll lay money on it being safer than holstering a fully loaded Glock with one in the chamber.

@rezlogan4787

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost In general you’re right. My preference is to just keep two pistols on the road. The difference between 10 and 12 shots is minor, and I don’t worry as much about bumping the guns around during trail work. I follow John Wayne’s advice in The Shootist: load 5 most of the time, load 6 if anticipating trouble.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@rezlogan4787 Nothing wrong with that...so long as we don't trade internet repeated modernisms/ Hollywoodisms for historical fact. I'll let everyone know if/when one of my hammers slips or breaks that "fragile" safety notch.

That is a nice looking peice

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Great channel name btw! Well done

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Dear Plowboy: How about showing some time how you clean your SAA's after shooting black powder loads They always look so nice. Doris J

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I've been out of blackpowder for a good while now, but I have an order coming....so I may just get to do just that soon.

@dorisjohnson8857

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I look forward to that video I find it very helpful to see how experienced BP shooters clean their revolvers and how I can improve my procedure I do so much love that boom and white cloud Thanks Doris j

I use my guns of this type often as you know and when I shoot outdoors if I am carrying it holstered I load 5 and leave on empty but if I am shooting and reloading I load 6 and shoot them. I shoot outdoors every weekend so I usually use a holster so there's that. I think people spend too much time on KZread talking about the load 5 and leave one empty I agree.

Here comes the "I knew a guy once...." comment. But I know a guy once that had his 6 shooter holstered and he was unloading 2x4 lumber from a pickup truck, dropped one as it slipped and it landed on the hammer of his holstered firearm and yes it went off and fired missing his foot thankfully. It doesn't take much to slam the hammer and cause it to fire in a repro either which has no hammer safety.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

It had to be hammer/firing pin resting ON a primer to do that. I would never, ever advocate carrying in that manner.

@megatrends

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I know you wouldn't. That guy did though and that's why you wouldn't.

@megatrends

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Also, I love your videos. :)

@TightwadTodd

2 жыл бұрын

Worked a ranch and 2 guys started rough housing in the bunk house..A guy had his single action in a holster hanging on the bed post..The bunk got slammed into,causing the gun to slam against the wall and it fired..It stopped the rough housing and he got a lesson ........

plowboy when the hell you gonna post another video? I check your channel ever day because I love your topics. Thanks amigo.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I figured on making a shooting video with that 1860 Richards Transition when my blackpowder order from Grafs comes in. I may do something before that, though..

@jefferyvollers2705

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good my friend. Your one of my check daily people for new videos.

Ironic how many of your cowboy guns I own as well...I didn't know you could leave it between cylinders; good to know. I knew the percussion revolvers could but not the conversions. I tend to load 5 and probably still will just because that's how I like it and the habit is not a bad thing for me but each to his own. One thing I like about revolvers in general is they prolong range time. Load magazines full in a semi and ammo is gone fast!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Also, like Jeff Quinn said, "With a revolver, you don't leave brass with your fingerprints laying around on the ground...if that sort of thing is important to you." 😁

Another common sense video. I agree, I also liked your 40 grain in the case video. Hope all is going well Plowboy!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. We're all good, hope you/y'all are, too.

Thanks for the education

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know that I've ever been accused of "educating" anyone.......lol. :) Thank you.

@Achbar

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost My Knowledge of the Single Action Guns for 2021 has been increased due to your Channel. You are more Practical and pragmatic with your approach to FireArms and I like that.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@Achbar Very kind of you.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@Achbar Very kind of you to say so. Thank you.

Damn that's a good-looking gun!! and great idea. The 1858 Remington Conversion has a different type of firing pin that is spring loaded in the backing plate where the 1860 Colt has the firing pin on the hammer and protrudes through the frame farther when in the down position. Cool beans brother I will try it out.

I was going to say it looks like you did some work on the grips. I hate how all ubertis are bright red. What you did to them made them look way better.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have done this to every Uberti gun I own, except the Man With No Name .38 "conversion" that inlaid snakes into, and the new 1873 U.S. Marshal/ Indian Territory carbine that I've not shot or even carried outside the house more than a couple of times. They look pretty good when new, but a few dings REALLY stand out on them...and that finish is so thick I can't touch it up. With stain...it's all easy and good. A scratch or three stained over and rubbed with boiled linseed oil just makes them look even better, to me.

My Uberti Cattleman II 1873 Colt repro has a safety feature where the firing pin is not able to fire unless you are pulling the trigger because of a transfer bar/rod type thingiemahoozie in the hammer to the trigger. Purists hate that but I don't mind it ... and carry 6 in that one.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I've had one with the cattleman II system. I carried 6 in it, too. I saw a Cimarron rep. advise people to still only load 5 in the Cattleman II guns on a Facebook post in a sixgun group we're in. I didn't argue with him....Cimarron has to think about legal liabilities, too. I can understand that.

@megatrends

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I tried to make it fire using a stick and it wouldn't. Yah ... the lawyers. I have a Henry Big Boy Carbine in .357 that has a transfer bar safety and that won't fire with the finger off the trigger. I tried it by pulling the trigger and holding the hammer then with finger off the trigger let the hammer slam down and it did not fire. Did that three times to make sure ... still doesn't mean you can't be safe with it because that would be stupid. Maybe I should make sure it is 5 rounds only even at the range unless loading to shoot immediately with the Uberti cattleman.

Good to hear from you

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

..and from you. Thank you.

I have the same revolvers 5& 1/2 barrel ( several ) & agree with you 100 %! loading only 5 ? lmao! it's meant to hold 6, firing pin between the chambers as you have show, carried mine that way for years, everyone knows when you have a loaded it has the potential to fire, so like you said if you don't want that then leave the fucking thing unloaded, otherwise load 6 & be ready & follow common sense safety.

I can almost guarantee that most people back then loaded 6 especially when gun safety wasn't as big back then as it is now. There are photographs of people with their fingers on the trigger and the like. Why would somebody sacrifice one extra round for firearm safety, a concept that wasn't emphasized back then? Most people probably utilized the safety notch or slowly lowered the hammer on the cartridge. Sure some people only loaded five like Wyatt Earp but most people didn't. I think this whole idea of loading five is more of a contemporary thing. As people began to become more safety conscious, they wanted to be able to carry their revolvers safely so they developed the "cowboy load" technique and probably told their children that, that is how they carried them in the "Wild West." It is a shame that big channels continue this trend. I always load 6 because I bought a six shooter.

Loading five rounds or six in an 1873 style revolver is a matter of personal choice. There are pros and cons to either method. I prefer carrying five rounds because it allows me to leave the hammer fully down, with the trigger resting to the rear. With six rounds loaded I must carefully lower the hammer to its safety notch, which means the trigger moves forward, leaving less room for my finger when I pull the pistol from my holster. I don't like the feel of this technique, which is purely a subjective matter. What is more disconcerting to me is an unavoidable drawback in the operation of any SA revolver, or, for that matter, any DA/SA revolver when operated in SA mode. Once cocked, your only options are to fire the pistol or lower the hammer on a live round. This latter option not only risks an accidental discharge, but it deprives you of a shot until the cylinder has fully rotated back to this chamber again.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I, too don't like where the trigger sets when the hammer is in the safety notch...and I draw with my finger in the trigger guard, not moving the hammer until the muzzle is pointed downrange. My Cimarron Pietta seems to have a smaller trigger guard, making the space between the the trigger in the safety notch 9and half-cock) smaller than my Cimarron Old Model Uberti built guns. ...and I carry 5 in my SAA clones.

@Paladin1873

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Here's a new wrinkle I encountered yesterday when I received a Cimarron Model P in 44 Special. It has the new safety hammer that so many purists decry. I wasn't aware of this when I ordered it, so my first reaction when I cocked it was damn, this thing is broken. I immediately called Cimarron and inquired about it. The rep said I was the third such call he had received that day. He went on to explain how the safety works. I had read about it a while back but thought it was an option available only on a few guns. He replied that, over Cimarron's protest, Beretta is now requiring Uberti to install it in all of their Pre-War models with the exception of the Evil Roy. Thankfully, they have yet to add this feature to the Old Model P (black powder frame) so I quickly ordered one in 45 Colt. In the meantime I have been studying the safety hammer on my new .44 and am concerned about a potential liability issue with it. I confirmed that with the hammer down you can squeeze the trigger and force the firing pin to protrude through the frame. Can this action detonate a primer? I don't know. Perhaps you could do a video demonstration using primed hulls. If it is possible, then I'm afraid Uberti's hammer safety could ultimately end up being a liability instead.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paladin1873 I no longer own a SAA clone with the Cattleman II gizmo in it. All I own are Cimarron Piettas and Old Model Ubertis...both 4 click, fixed firing pin.

@Paladin1873

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I don't blame you. I own samples of about every type of SAA mechanism and I still prefer C-O-L-T. I'll keep the 44 Special because I want a shooter in this caliber to go with my Uberti Winchester 73 clone.

Hey Plowboy, I was looking around in a gun shop today and found a Virginian Dragoon revolver chambered in .44 Magnum. It has the case-hardened frame and a blued cylinder and 7 1/2 inch barrel and walnut wood grips. It was made in 1974 but action is still smooth as glass. Has the four hammer clicks of a true Colt clone. You had any experience with those? Think it could handle your deer rounds?

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I've never handled one and I haven't studied on it enough to know if it'll handle what a Ruger SBH will, but there are a lot of people online praising them when I Googled the gun recently...after a dude locally was trying to trade me one for my still unfired S&W 629.

@denisdegamon8224

Жыл бұрын

I had one of those in 44 magnum years ago. They were built like a tank and can handle just about any published 44 magnum loads. On the but it had an engraving "We the People" in a scroll. Buitifully made gun.

Just tried it with my New Model Army Conversion and you are correct it doesn’t work. However I’m probably going to have this gun customized at some point so I’ll have the gunsmith I take it to cut bolt notches inbetween the chamber notches. It’s how the leech and rigdon cap and ball guns were done

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

A good machinist/gunsmith should be able to do that.

Don't take Medical advice from you? Lol! I figer a Good Whiskey take care of most ailments! Loll! Agree? Beauty of a Revolver, I must say!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

...and whiskey cures a lot! I realized when i got done editing this second take (turns out I had the camera set on "macro" for the first video) that I didn't mention the brass you'd sent in this take like I had the first. Thanks, again!

@hawknives

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Keep up the good work, Man! You were the right guy, for the brass, beins you love the 45 Colt. I really like the 45 Colt too. Peace to Ya, Brother! Talk soon! Hawk.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawknives Thank you, brother.

@hawknives

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Yes Sir! Enjoy the day, Man!!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawknives You, too.

I saw u going thru florence today

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That you probably did.

@cashisbell2497

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I was in the white navigator

I saw you do this with your Schofield as well. I have one and this exact model also. I’m not able to do it with either gun and my Schofield is timed very badly. Lots of heavy drag lines on the cylinder I need to get a timed I think.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Is your Schofield a Uberti built gun, and are they both in .45 Colt?

@soylentgreen7074

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost both uberti and both 45 colt. Both bought in 2021. The schofield is a stoeger marked and imported uberti and the 1860 Richard’s type 2 is a cimaron marked uberti. The bolt comes up on the schofield blocking me from rotating it half way and even when full cocking it there’s resistance that leaves a drag line. The 1860 richard’s when i do it the gun locks up and I have to take the barrel off and cylinder out to free it. I just got unlucky I guess.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@soylentgreen7074 That is some luck. I pulled the safety out of my Schofields, but i don't believe that will have anything to do with what you're describing with yours.

I carry my 1860 that way

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I kept all my cap and ball pistols loaded that way.

Off topic but did you find a better way to seat the pistol primers in the brass shotgun shells? I made the comment about new firing pins but you said you already did that upgrade and it didn't help with misfires.

I can fit more than 40 grains if i pack the 40 grains first then fill the rest of the case then seat the bullet on top probably not safe though

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

With my 255-gr Lee bullet, i can get a little more than 40 in it, but 40 is plenty :)

@TK-wd7de

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost i personlly like 30 grains triple 7 with a wad on top and a 255 grain lead flatnose little less recoil but with a good and tight crimp your getting around 1000 or a little less fps from my chronograph

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@TK-wd7de I like the 40-gr for all the brimstone, flame, and thunder. 40-gr of 3F from a 7.5" SAA clone can and has ran over 1000 fps, itself.

If you don't mind saying, what stripper do you use to remove the finish on the grips?

Did all of those conversions have those “safety” notches between chambers? Also, what’s your opinion on that gun? Been thinking about getting one

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

The cap and ball Colt pattern replicas have pins between chambers. This one doesn't have any sort of notch, detent, or pin. What I'm doing is lowering the hammer between chambers/case rims. The 1860 Richards in this video will push the hammer back and turn if you purposely turn the cylinder in this position...but it doesn't just turn on it's own. Bear in mind I have already put a piece of leather under the hammer spring, so it is lightened a little, which would make it do what I describe easier than if it were left with full hammer spring tension. My Open Top .45 Colt doesn't. It holds tight between case rims. My initial impression of this gun is that I love it....but I haven't shot it yet. I did deepen the rear sight "V" cut in the hammer to see the front sight through it better, but my eyes are getting worse and I need all the help I can get.

Since you turned your open top to look like the one that Tom Selleck used in Crossfire Trail, do you think you might turn this one to look like the one that he used in Last Stand at Sabre River?

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't even thought about that movie, for some reason, since trading for this gun. Now that you mention it.........*maybe*.

Plowboy, I've got a Colt SAA 3rd Generation with a 7 1/2" barrel. I want to get a 1851 Richards Mason or a 1860 Richards Mason cartridge conversion to shoot black powder in. I know the 1860 has a longer grip. Which grip feels better to you? I think I would like the feel of a longer grip. My hand feels cramped sometimes on my Colt SAA .45.

@SilverSlugVideos

2 жыл бұрын

You can order a 1860 army size grip assembly from VTI gun parts and swap out the grip if you want. You'll also need a longer hammer spring. I recommend it. All my SAAs have army size grips on them. It feels a whole lot better for larger handed individuals like me.

So I got this model and it does not have those notches between the cylinders. Where can I find a cylinder with those notches?

@plowboysghost

21 күн бұрын

@@MausTanker This one wasn't notched. I was setting the hammer nose/pin between case rims.

@MausTanker

21 күн бұрын

@@plowboysghost ah, thank you.

Please tell me you still have this gun good video buddy

@plowboysghost

Жыл бұрын

Naw.. don't remember when or for what .but it got traded.

@A.R.American1

Жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost I wished I lived close to you every week I would see what you got to trade then buy it from ya lol

@plowboysghost

Жыл бұрын

@@A.R.American1 😂

@plowboysghost

Жыл бұрын

@@A.R.American1 😁

3 minutes of good info packed into 10. Is that how you beat the heat down in Lone Star? Anyway, when Texas secedes, please take NM along with you.