Rod Bennet knows his stuff. Do yourself a favor and listen to him. I bought his book. It is like a text book.

All the Christians saying “Jesus alone” miss the apostles completely, which means they miss Jesus completely. Acts 1:20 “his OFFICE let another man take”

36:41 As a 20-year-old cradle Catholic who went to Catholic school for years upon years, who's seen practically all my high school classmates fall away from the Church, I think the real reason so many Catholics have become estranged from the Bible is because they're never taught that there's much depth to it in the first place. I've gone to four different Catholic schools in my life, and in all of them, religion class was a joke. So these kids who spend 13 years in Catholic school have good reason to think they've learned all there is to know about the Church. But they have no idea. So of course they leave. Dioceses *need* to make sure their schools are imparting the wonder in the Bible and in the Church.

@supergene256

6 жыл бұрын

Evonna Treladon I’m so glad you’re not one of the ones that fell away too. I went through the same sort of “Catholic school” system as you did, and although I kept going to Mass as a younger adult I fell away too. In fact I can’t say I ever believed in Jesus Christ. It was not until I was 24 and I decided myself I “wanted Catholicism” to be true, that I saw that our Faith was so much greater and more beautiful than I had ever been taught; and I started learning about the traditions, the history, the Saints, the martyrs and the Magisterium itself. Thank you God!!

@EC-rd9ys

6 жыл бұрын

Gabriel-Stéphane Lindor Thank goodness! It was really the same for me. I thank God I went to a university that was so strongly Catholic, otherwise I don’t think I would’ve been in an environment that fostered individual religious study. I only took two religion classes in college, but two good classes and a community that cared was all it took. I think it would be that simple for most people my age as well. Just to show them that there *is* something to learn. If Catholic schools would just do that, I don’t think the Church would be having the same desertion it’s having.

@lesleyakora2679

8 ай бұрын

I am a cradle Catholic who has a reach unwavering Catholic faith, due to the foundation of my Catholic education and foundation, during my primary education. The Evangelicals charged me that the devil had given me Biblical knowledge that I referred them too. So the Church's teachings are infallible. The Lord has His ways of when to touch one. The Lord has blessed me abd my family with many miracles, from healing of my Mum from arthritis, to gibing us kids, which kids have been anointed with gifts of The Lord speaking through them even upto now.❤❤❤

I'm studying the church father's as well

Great

Rod Bennett. No ego, easygoing personality. And true genius. He won’t say it. So I will.

+Angel Casiano I'm sorry, Angel, but you are mistaken. You say you follow the Bible. But which came first, the Bible? or the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church. Where did the Bible come from? The Catholic Church. Who wrote the Bible? The Catholic Church. Who chose the books of the Bible? The Catholic Church. Who put the Bible together in the order it is now? The Catholic Church. Who formulated, enforced, and preserved the essential doctrines of the Bible, like the Trinity, the Hypostatic Union, Communion, and Baptism? The Catholic Church Without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible, Angel. Indeed, without the Catholic Church, there would be no Protestants. So tell me, Angel, which is better to follow: the Bible, or the Catholic Church? You need to understand that the same people that you reject, PUT THE BIBLE TOGETHER! Do you really think that you know what the Bible means more than them? You say you only follow the Bible, but that is false. You read the Bible, through your OWN interpretation, mingled with the influence of Protestant Pastors and modern, Protestant-biased scholarly books. Trust me, Angel, I know what it's like. I went to Moody Bible Institute to study to become a Pastor. But I began to study Church History and saw that the Early Church Fathers' interpretations of the Bible were not Protestant in the least, but rather, their theology and interpretation of Scripture was nearly exactly like modern Roman Catholicism, including Purgatory, the Pope, the Eucharist, and praying to Mary and the saints. You say you've read the Early Church Fathers... yet didn't you see that their interpretations of Scripture (the same writings that THEY THEMSELVES declared as God's Holy Inspired Word) were extremely opposed to Protestant interpretations of Scripture? Another false thing that I learned at Moody was that we would always go after the most recent, modern books when we interpret Scripture. But we would NEVER even look at the commentaries of Scripture by the Early Church Fathers. Don't you think that the DISCIPLES of the actual Apostles (most of them martyrs of the faith) knew what was the truth about Jesus, more than 21st Century rich, Protestant Pastors? If you've read this far, Angel, I thank you for your patience with me. If you are willing to actually ponder these questions I've asked, I would be more than obliged to give you additional information and prayer about these topics. But if you are here just to state your opinion, rather than seeking the truth, please move on.

@DaneStolthed

8 жыл бұрын

+David Diemert You my friend are mistaken. "Which came first, the Bible? or the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church." WRONG! The Word of God came first, John 1:1. Jesus Christ is the foundation of the Church without Jesus Christ their is no Church! "Where did the Bible come from? The Catholic Church." WRONG! What we today call 'The Bible' is actually a collection of 66 books, written by about 40 different authors (most of which predate the Church) from all walks of life (kings, fishermen, a tax collector, tent maker, etc.) over a period of 1,600 years. "Who wrote the Bible? The Catholic Church." WRONG! Moses, king David and the prophet Isaiah were not Catholic. "Who chose the books of the Bible? The Catholic Church." WRONG! The books (and epistles) that make up the Bible were all compiled before the Council of Nicaea (incidentally predating the Romanized version of Christianity). "Who put the Bible together in the order it is now? The Catholic Church." WRONG AGAIN! Most of the epistles and Gospels were written to the Churches in Asia Minor which is a region (East of Rome) that practices the Orthodox (original to the Apostles and early Church fathers) tradition. So the answer is the Eastern Orthodox Church. I have to agree with Angel Casiano he is spot on in his assessment of theology and church authority! God's Word trumps man's word the converse is heresy my friend! God bless!

@wilmamartines7631

7 жыл бұрын

David Diemert- thank you!

@70AD-user45

7 жыл бұрын

DaneStolthed I think you will find that the Orthodox Church as we know it today came after Constantine the Great moved his capital to Byzantine in the 4th century.

@ChuddleBuggy

6 жыл бұрын

Yea, I think Mr. Stolthed slammed a dunk against Mr. Diemert's argument here.

@Prancer1231

6 жыл бұрын

What he means is the Catholic Church wrote the New Testament, obviously. The Jews had no concept of the "Bible," they had the scriptures and the Torah. The New Testament was written by Catholics. The Catholic Church, as the AUTHORITY, decided what books were inspired and the Catholic Church COMPILED it. The Catholic Church existed nearly 400 years before there was any "New Testament." The Bible is a Catholic book period. Only the Catholic Church has any authority to teach it or interpret it. The Catholic Church is the authority established by Jesus, not the "Bible." The Bible (the New Testament) is a product of the Catholic Church. And by the way the Bible has 73 books, protestants removed 7 books. Jesus and the apostles used those books and quoted from them.

If Catholicism is a heresy then which church can trace it's roots back to Jesus? He did say I will be with you until the end of time. So, if Catholicism is a Heresy then Jesus is a Liar? I mean, Protestantism only surfaced in the 1500s right? Catholics claim they can trace themselves back to Jesus. Does that mean He abandoned His Church (His Body, with Him as the Head) for 1500 years before resurfacing and claiming it back for Himself? I sincerely don't think so!!!

@18josiahboi

7 жыл бұрын

BemBem Bem-Bem you got it mistaken of course the church always existed before and after the big organization of what we now call the Roman Catholic Church existed and always has. The word Catholic was coined by saint Ignatius in the 2nd century and it means Universal or the universal church. So every believer who accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior was part of the Universal Church this is not to be confuse with the Roman Catholic Church which started in the 4th Century by a power hungry pope. What happened in the 15th century was just a break apart from the ruling Roman Catholic Church. The true was always in existence before and after the umbrella of the RCC. To be fair the church was even inside the RCC.

@topseykretts7608

7 жыл бұрын

Ma'am.......you are 100% right. Jesus Christ certainly founded a Church. He built this Church on the back of the Apostles (St. Peter in particular). On the day of Pentecost, the Church was born....And from that point on, wherever St. Peter was.....there was the Catholic Church. St. Peter was the first Bishop of Rome (that's where he died and was buried). He was the first Pope!!!!! His bones lay underneath the Vatican to this very day (St Peter's Basilica).....please pay no mind to the ocean of protestant propaganda trying to deny this.....

@odouls779

6 жыл бұрын

+BemBem Bem-Bem - The Armenian Apostolic church was organized by Apostles Thaddeus and Bartholomew in Armenia; The Christian Coptic church was organized by Apostle Thomas in Egypt; The Ethiopian church is also existing up to this day. The Eastern Greek Orthodox church is also as old as the Roman Catholic church. So there are other Christian churches older than the Roman catholic church.

@dancucich6392

6 жыл бұрын

Maam, the church over the years gradually became complacent and corrupt, and those who who could no longer stay in, like Martin Luther, a catholic priest through "apostolic succession: decided it was time to leave that filth. Thank God he did, so we protestants haven't had a church that covered up the sinful deeds of their depraved pedophile "priests" who were "priests" by so-called "apostolic succession" wake up!

@lindabrown6578

6 жыл бұрын

1 Thes 2:13, “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the Word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the Word of God repeat Luke 10:16 “He that hears you hears me; and he that despises you despises me; and he that despises me despises him that sent me.” Again It’s too obvious These catholic church leaders were given full authority.

John 3:5; ... "Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of WATER and the SPIRIT.

@David-we3sb

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

No, no. LINUS was the 1st bishop of Rome, not Ignatius! And not Peter!

Is this Roman Catholic’s history or the Orthodox’s?

@David-we3sb

Жыл бұрын

What would you like to talk about?

@andremchinda3973

Жыл бұрын

@@David-we3sb need to know if I’m at right place my brother!

Prego che uno di voi si prenda cura di un milionario o miliardario per trovarmi negli Stati Uniti per salvarmi la vita per migliorare la mia vita, per favore. fidati di me. Non c'è bisogno di preoccuparsi. Possiamo parlare di persona. Lasciami realizzare un sogno.

I love church history! We, as Christians, should know what has taken place since the death of the original apostles to today. Nevertheless, when it comes down to theology, doctrine, dogma, orthodoxy, church government, etc. everything MUST be inline with God's Word. The original apostles were not perfect men; but they, together with the Old Testament prophets, gave us perfect doctrine. Take for example of praying to dead saints; where is that in the Bible? So, if you tell me that the church fathers establish such practice; if that is true, they were unbiblical in such practice. We must always go back to the Logos. That has been one, if not the greatest tragedy through church history, the minimization of God's Word, both in the Catholic and the Protestant world! What I am trying to say is that I don't care who say what, their titles, education, experience, connection, power and influence, if is not confirm in the Word is a man-made doctrine and, if a man-made doctrine, I will not follow! Respectfully!

@mrmikeflo11

8 жыл бұрын

The church fathers had no bible

@mrmikeflo11

8 жыл бұрын

Like you, if someone wants to use sola scriptura on me, my question is where did the early church father's teach Sola scriptura, where did the early church father's teach personal relationship with Christ, if the apostles didn't teach it to their disciples we know as the apostolic fathers who were personal disciples of the original apostles then it's man made

@Manantialdelvalle242

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Flores The Bible encourages us to STUDY and show ourselves approve. We are not call to be anti-intellectual; the issue through history is when we move away from the WORD of God. We had the Old Testament and the New Testament. Through the Canon they established the books that were indeed God's Word; anything that contradicted that was thrown out as heresy. One of the great problems of the times was the Gnostic Gospels and general literature; a total heresy. I am a believer in Sola Scriptura; no other book compares to the Bible. However, I read other books and literature that will be beneficial to my understanding of the Scripture; nothing wrong with that. The praying to Virgin Mary, praying to dead saints, purgatory and so on are some of the heresies of the Catholic Church. Today we still have heresies, in both the Catholic and the Protestant Church. Is happening more and more as people move away from God's WORD. My ultimate confirmation for God's truth is the Bible; other books are use to confirm the Bible, not the other way around! Don't really care who say what and who they are and if they were direct disciples of Peter, John, Mark, the Pope or whomever; if what they speak is not inline with God's Word is not truth. The authority is in the Word, not in the speaker.

@Manantialdelvalle242

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Flores What?

@mrmikeflo11

8 жыл бұрын

The bible is not meant to be used as a theology tool, but on the terms of Sola scriptura anyone can have their own personal interpretation of scripture and that's something the church father's didn't teach. Like I said if ignatius, clement, and polycarp didn't learn it from the apostles then it's man made, ignatius talks about the schismatics in his writings to the philadelphians

David Deimert: While you are correct that the Church existed before the New Testament was canonized, you are wrong to say that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible.

@David-we3sb

7 жыл бұрын

Well, the Catholic Church didn't write the Old Testament, I concede. But they did write the New Testament. The Church that Jesus founded with the Apostles, headed by Peter, is the same Catholic Church, which produced each New Testament book; either written by an Apostle, or by a disciple of an Apostle.

@rev.j.rogerallen9328

7 жыл бұрын

David Diemert When the New Testament documents were being written the Roman Catholic Church as it came to be didn't exist yet. The five ancient Holy Sees of the Church began with Jerusalem. Then came Antioch. Then came Rome. Then came Alexandra. Then came Constantinople. In that order. The Church simple was the body of Christ in the world. The 1st person to use the word Catholic to describe the Church was St. Ignatius of Antioch in the 2nd century and the word Catholic means universal. So every one in the body of Christ was part of the universal Church but it was not called the Roman Catholic Church until much later. All the successors of the Apostles( the Bishops) were equal. St. Peter was one of the chief leaders in the Church but he was not superior to St. Paul or St. John. If you read Acts 15 you will see that the 1st council of the Church which was held in Jerusalem was presided over by St. James although St. Peter was there with the other Apostles. St. Peter was the Bishop of Antioch for about 5 years before he became the Bishop of Rome. All the Bishops of the 5 ancient Holy Sees of the Church were equal until Pope Leo the Great declared in the 4th century that his office was superior to all the others. That marks the beginning of the Roman Catholic Church as it will be in the future of European history.

@David-we3sb

7 жыл бұрын

J. Roger Allen, if the NT wasn't written by the Catholic Church, then which Church wrote it? Was it the church before the Catholic Church? If so.... then where did it go? Did His Pillar and Foundation of the Truth really disappear for centuries?

@70AD-user45

7 жыл бұрын

Rev. J. Roger Allen Reverand, You left out Charlemagne, the Frankish emperor, and his influence on creating Roman Catholicism. It was during the reign of Charlemagne when church and state were unified. This was then followed by schisms between east and west, inquisitions, forced conversions and many other ungodly acts. Before Charlemagne, there was only one unified Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. But crucially the eastern half of the empire never came under the reign of Charlemagne, hence the destruction of Eastern Orthodox Churches when the Roman Crusaders marched through Constantinople on their way to Jerusalem. I'm no expert on Christian history, but I have heard many Eastern Orthodox historians say it was Charlemagne who created the modern day Roman Catholic church.

@rev.j.rogerallen9328

7 жыл бұрын

David Diemert No it did not disappear. The books of the New Testament were written by the Apostles and their close associates in the 1st century. The Roman Catholic Church was founded in the 4th century but they are decended from the Apostles just like the eastern Orthodox Church.